Jun 20 2008
Session Time: Fri Jun 20 00:00:00 2008
[08:05] {Threei} OPEC KELIL SAYS THAT PRODCUTION INCREASE IS ILOGICAL AND IRRATIOANAL
[08:05] {Threei} 06/20/08 08:00am
[08:05] {Threei} [HOKU] Hoku Scientific Collaborating with Great Western Malting on utilities
[08:05] {Threei} - Under the terms of its bid, The Orchard would assume control of TVT's catalogue of recorded masters, artist contracts and physical record distribution infrastructure, among other assets, but excluding its holdings in its music publishing subsidiary.
[08:07] {_Lisa_Jay} Good morning Vad, Dptl, Hawkfan4 and Jmb.
[08:07] {Threei} Good morning
[08:07] {hawkfan4} good morning
[08:09] {Threei} ESLR gapping down
[08:09] {Threei} what an impossible stock
[08:10] {Threei} such words as "follow through" are just not in its vocabulary
[08:13] {Threei} spam mail becomes plainly insulting
[08:13] {Threei} "Be a man finally"?
[08:14] {Threei} I liked "buy replica watches" better :)
[08:14] {Threei} coming at the rate about 400-500 a day
[08:14] {Threei} downside of having e-mail address posted
[08:15] {hawkfan4} lol, that's pretty bad
[08:15] {Threei} it is...
[08:15] {Threei} most irrtating thing, there is good chance to miss a valid one while deleting
[08:22] {_Lisa_Jay} Spam filter.
[08:24] {Threei} tried a lot of them
[08:24] {Threei} none seems to be effective enough
[08:30] {_3579} gm
[08:30] {Threei} 3579 :)
[08:31] {Threei} ENOC
[08:31] {Threei} SIGNS 110 MEGAWATT CONTRACT WITH SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON
[08:32] {_3579} vad i finished the last chapter of reminiscences of a stock operator last night that chapter is very depressing
[08:33] {Threei} why?
[08:34] {_3579} everyone dies poor
[08:34] {Threei} Jesse didn't
[08:34] {Threei} his estate was about 5 mil when he died
[08:35] {Threei} which in todsay's money is what
[08:35] {Threei} about 80?
[08:37] {Threei} but as famous Hawaiian rules say... He who dies with the most toys - still dies :)
[08:37] {_3579} all smart people with no self control, not him but the whales that lost everything looking for more good lesson
[08:37] {Threei} yeah... as long as leson is taking, why depressing? :)
[08:38] {Threei} rather encouraging as you got useful piece of someone's life experience
[08:38] {Threei} you can tell I am a positive one :)
[08:41] {_3579} i agree but to have so much and give it away, Morse the last guy the book speaks of has his body held by his landlady untill his rent is paid
[08:41] {_3579} thats depressing
[08:42] {_Lisa_Jay} The author probably wrote about all that to caution people about getting too greedy or less cautious.
[08:42] {_Lisa_Jay} Like a balance.
[08:42] {Threei} just speaks volumes about landlady :)
[08:42] {_Lisa_Jay} lol.
[08:42] {_3579} the book was great
[08:42] {Threei} certainly
[08:42] {Threei} there is a good reason why it became all time classic
[08:44] {Threei} what I'll never understand is this take often expressed:
[08:44] {Threei} "what is there to learn from a man who ended up killing himself"
[08:44] {Threei} sounds very unreasonable to me
[08:45] {Threei} man was fantastic trader, learn how he did it
[08:45] {Threei} his mental illlness that walked alongside throughout his entire life and eventually led to his death has nothing to do with his trading abilities
[08:46] {_3579} so many lessons in the book i found myself reading the same chapters over and over again
[08:46] {Threei} I know
[08:46] {Threei} and interesting thing is,
[08:46] {Threei} as your own trading experience grows, you will find new not seen earlier lessons in it
[08:47] {Threei} I am proud to hear the same about TTR... tells me it's in-depth book
[08:48] {Threei} OPEC PRESIDENT KHELIL: DEMANDS AMONG CONSUMERS FOR A SUPPLY HIKE ARE IRRATIONAL
[08:48] {Threei} - Adds that will argue against oil output increase during Jeddah meeting
[08:51] {_3579} i have read ttr two times this week i can not tell you how much it has helped me
[08:52] {Threei} good to hear :)
[08:52] {_3579} as you can see i have been reading around the clock
[08:53] {Threei} as long as you stop in time... :)
[08:53] {Threei} as esemde about his experience of reading over 100 books on tarding
[08:54] {_3579} you are going to be away on monday?
[08:54] {Threei} yes
[08:54] {Threei} leaving today midday
[08:55] {Threei} back Monday middday
[08:55] {_3579} have a good trip
[08:55] {Threei} thank you
[08:55] {Threei} been a serious while since I enjoyed trip
[08:55] {Threei} used to love it
[08:55] {_3579} you are coming to my area
[08:55] {Threei} with all the airport and in-flight bs of last years it xceased to be fun
[08:56] {Threei} you in NY?
[08:56] {_3579} yes Long Island
[08:56] {Threei} :)
[08:56] {Threei} very energizing city if visiting short
[08:56] {_3579} SHORT
[08:56] {Threei} for a permanent living I prefer more quiet :)
[08:56] {_3579} i dont love the city
[08:57] {_3579} i like grass
[08:57] {cosmo} hmm
[08:57] {Threei} add" oceanbeach, mountains, lakes, forest", and you have me and my place of living
[08:59] {magoo} morning
[08:59] {Threei} magoo :)
[09:00] {magoo} no replay...what u got going?
[09:00] {Threei} nothing so far
[09:00] {Threei} some fun discussion but you'll have read it in the log later
[09:01] {Threei} irritated that host can't restore replay after thrtee requests
[09:01] {cosmo} HBAN pre mkt high = 6.10 fwiw
[09:01] {Threei} reinforces my resolve to change host
[09:03] {cosmo} ....should hold 6
[09:04] {_Lisa_Jay} csiq up, eslr flat now.
[09:04] {Threei} if it were a normal stock, I'd say 12.40 break is long
[09:05] {Threei} with ESLR, I simply have no clue
[09:06] {magoo} MER getting hit vad {again}
[09:07] {dptl} good morning all
[09:07] {Threei} dp :)
[09:09] {esemde} good morning......
[09:09] {Threei} ese :)
[09:09] {dino} gm all
[09:09] {Threei} dino :)
[09:09] {dino} :)
[09:10] {Threei} looked in carbon tax plan yesterday... if Libs win election and implement it, I am moving to US
[09:10] {cosmo} careful with california 3i
[09:10] {cosmo} they might tax your exhale
[09:11] {Threei} OK.... Hawaii then
[09:11] {magoo} pennsyltuckey vad
[09:11] {dino} yes, and meanwhile other countries do as they please w/pollution
[09:12] {_Lisa_Jay} I love PA. R u closer to NJ or the other side Magoo?
[09:12] {Threei} yeah... but Canada responsible for like 1% of world pollution must kill its economy and send cost of living through the roof in order "to do right thing"
[09:13] {fernp} Good morning
[09:13] {Threei} ironically, tax plan is called "tex shiFt"
[09:13] {Threei} fern :)
[09:13] {Threei} tax shiFt
[09:14] {Threei} guess how it plays out with other parties :)
[09:14] {Threei} "you are full of shift" ot "shift happens" is repeated in parliament on hourly basis
[09:16] {dino} close to nj, lisa
[09:16] {Threei} CNBC'S FABER NOTES THAT MER RUMOR OF POSSIBLE PREANNOUCEMENT IS UNTRUE
[09:18] {dino} sounds like bs, leh
[09:22] {_Lisa_Jay} WU raises guidence.
[09:25] {magoo} north east corner PA lisa
[09:25] {magoo} 2 hours from ny city
[09:25] {_Lisa_Jay} Oh. I visit Horsham every month.
[09:27] {Threei} let's stay on a careful icky conservative side today
[09:28] {Threei} icky = picky
[09:28] {GeoArb} no replay.... why?
[09:28] {Threei} freudian slip?... :)
[09:28] {Threei} because host deserves to be taken out and shot Geo
[09:28] {GeoArb} why dont we just use othernet or something?
[09:29] {Threei} some functionality isn't there on free hosting
[09:29] {GeoArb} true true
[09:29] {Threei} working on finding better host
[09:29] {GeoArb} so why careful today?
[09:30] {Threei} Friday... too good of a week to spoil it... nervous market...
[09:30] {GeoArb} ok
[09:32] {Threei} watching VPHM
[09:32] {Threei} .35 - .45 range
[09:33] {Threei} with big offers at .50 - .51, not sure though
[09:33] {Threei} maybe wait for more consolidatin and try .51 if it melts
[09:33] {Threei} if stays above .40
[09:34] {Threei} how about this 50 cents selloff ESLR
[09:34] {Threei} right after .40 break
[09:35] {Threei} what a trap
[09:35] {magoo} all solars on watcch lisat red
[09:36] {Roman} 21 ROYL
[09:36] {Roman} 21 in small
[09:38] {dino} lol, cnbc two weeks ago, new rally get in, today they are gloom and doomers, get out. so buy high sell low i guess
[09:39] {dino} fwiw, watching cpla, hun, bucy, cedc
[09:39] {dino} snp, ptr
[09:41] {Roman} 21 CSIQ
[09:41] {Roman} 21 bouncer
[09:42] {dino} ioc ouch
[09:42] {Threei} JASO
[09:43] {Threei} WEAKNESS ATTRIBUTED TO CAUTIOUS COMMENTS AT MERRILL
[09:43] {magoo} news AAPL vad?
[09:44] {esemde} out ESLR my little 300 shs lot .30 from yesterday at 12.45 +1.15
[09:44] {Threei} nothing fresh
[09:44] {Threei} wtg ese
[09:44] {Roman} 21 long SEED
[09:44] {Roman} 21 6.95-7.00 area
[09:45] {dino} sm risky long ioc .95
[09:46] {Roman} 21 long NCOC
[09:46] {Roman} 21 9.36 stop under 9.20
[09:48] {Threei} MRVL
[09:48] {Roman} 21 NCOC looking to sell first lot over 10
[09:48] {GeoArb} mrvl
[09:48] {Threei} .56 long, .44 stop
[09:50] {cosmo} VPHM
[09:50] {Threei} so far so good
[09:51] {cosmo} testy
[09:51] {dino} ioc stop to b/e not moving
[09:52] {Threei} MRVL invalidated
[09:53] {dino} ioc stopped -.02
[09:53] {Threei} VNDA?
[09:54] {Threei} your baby Roman
[09:54] {esemde} out of commision here...questrade is down
[09:54] {Roman} 21 love it Vad
[09:54] {Threei} 6 break?
[09:55] {Threei} daily looks fantastic, I just don't know personality of this one
[09:55] {Roman} 21 yes, but can I answer this question in 10 minutes
[09:55] {Roman} 21 ?
[09:55] {Threei} sigh
[09:55] {dino} lod's
[09:55] {dino} -300 patuience? gut says so
[09:55] {_Lisa_Jay} rebooting, be right back.
[09:55] {patience} not sure dino
[09:56] {dino} bet you 1 bud light lime
[09:56] {patience} oh now we're talking
[09:56] {GeoArb} what can i say
[09:56] {GeoArb} comitted traders
[09:56] {Threei} lol
[09:57] {GeoArb} passion all around
[09:57] {dino} :)
[09:57] {Roman} 21 i'll bet against you dino
[09:57] {esemde} whats the story on VNDA
[09:57] {dino} ok
[09:58] {dino} you usually do :)
[09:58] {Roman} 21 PLLL
[09:58] {Threei} healthcare stock ese
[09:58] {esemde} news today
[09:58] {Threei} nope
[09:59] {Threei} VPHM is oblivious to market drop
[10:01] {esemde} SQNM looks exactly like ESLR on daily
[10:01] {esemde} check that...
[10:02] {esemde} was looking at 15min chart
[10:02] {judijim} good morning to you all
[10:02] {esemde} jj
[10:02] {Threei} jj :)
[10:02] {Threei} SDTH
[10:02] {Threei} PLANNING ACQUISITION OF FERTILIZER COMPANY, RELOCATING CHEMICAL PLANT
[10:02] {Threei} - Planning to acquire Jinan Fertilizer Co., Ltd., a nitrogenous fertilizer company based in Jinan, the capital of Shandong Province.
[10:03] {Threei} VPHM invalidated
[10:03] {GeoArb} ya know
[10:04] {GeoArb} the beer is owed dino
[10:04] {Threei} ok Roman... your time is up
[10:04] {Threei} VNDA 7 or 5 today?
[10:05] {dino} de hitting march lows
[10:05] {Threei} colars disconnected from oil completely
[10:05] {Threei} solars
[10:05] {GeoArb} i have this over lay of oil on NQ
[10:06] {GeoArb} the chart looks like an open end of a scissor
[10:06] {dino} 11,620 3/08 lows dji
[10:06] {Threei} with economy in the middle Geo?
[10:06] {GeoArb} heheh
[10:06] {GeoArb} yup
[10:09] {Roman} 21 stopped NCOC
[10:09] {dino} must be short term chart geo?
[10:09] {GeoArb} oh yes
[10:09] {GeoArb} just today
[10:10] {dino} ok
[10:11] {dino} cetv
[10:15] {esemde} A
[10:15] {_Lisa_Jay} SDTH
[10:15] {esemde} APOL only stock on ndx bucking the trend
[10:16] {dino} fwlt
[10:17] {esemde} PODD how bout this recovery from days low
[10:17] {dino} sm l cpla .80
[10:17] {dino} thin
[10:19] {dino} cetv sm l .80, risky
[10:20] {Threei} PTEN tries to follow through
[10:20] {Threei} pullback to 35 - 35.05 are worth entry
[10:20] {Threei} first strength from here
[10:21] {Threei} stop .89 or .94, depending on your risk tolerance
[10:21] {dino} hun l .70 stop .37
[10:22] {Threei} invalidated
[10:22] {esemde} LULU had linit order for 1/2 qat .60 ...no fill damn!!!
[10:22] {esemde} 1/2 lot that is
[10:23] {dino} itmn
[10:24] {esemde} another huge bounce dino like PODD
[10:26] {Threei} SDTH looks to cut through 9
[10:27] {dino} es you get podd/
[10:28] {_Lisa_Jay} Yeah...did not know where to put my risk stop as it broke through 8.70 - 8.75. So did not take trade :-(
[10:28] {Threei} why not ask
[10:28] {_Lisa_Jay} Sorry, next time i will. Thank you.
[10:28] {_Lisa_Jay} Pass me the box of tissues please.
[10:28] {GeoArb} i am thinking of asking vad about every trade after its done
[10:28] {magoo} dam SDTH
[10:29] {esemde} long ASBC .32
[10:29] {magoo} looked away pow
[10:29] {GeoArb} after all i forget... i am here to learn to fish and just not takehis calls
[10:29] {GeoArb} is that ok vad ?:)
[10:29] {Chaeron} good morning fellow fishermen :)
[10:29] {Threei} chaweron :)
[10:29] {GeoArb} hey chaeron
[10:29] {dino} thats right goe
[10:30] {Threei} sure geo, under one condition
[10:30] {magoo} charbroil:)
[10:30] {Chaeron} hey geo, Tweei
[10:30] {dino} wynnblood
[10:30] {GeoArb} ?
[10:30] {Threei} man who learned how to fish usually goes out in a boat and sits with 6 pack... so condition is - take TWO 6 packs, one for me
[10:30] {GeoArb} anytime vad
[10:31] {GeoArb} ill mail you one
[10:31] {GeoArb} as i told chaeron months ago..........
[10:31] {esemde} out ASBC...42 quick hit +.10....gotta go...have a great weekend everyone
[10:31] {Threei} take care ese, have a great one
[10:31] {GeoArb} I had to shovel a lot of shit to find this pony(room)
[10:31] {Chaeron} bye ese... nice scalp
[10:31] {GeoArb} bye ese
[10:32] {Chaeron} lol
[10:32] {Chaeron} magoo - replay not working here... any fun you're looking at?
[10:32] {Threei} chaeron is crouping today... tWeei?
[10:32] {GeoArb} i thought that was a cute lisp
[10:33] {Chaeron} [07:28] {Threei} chaweron :)
[10:33] {Threei} oh
[10:33] {Threei} rolf
[10:33] {Threei} or rofl
[10:33] {GeoArb} lol
[10:33] {Chaeron} :)
[10:33] {Threei} good comeback then :)
[10:34] {Chaeron} thanks... now what's shakin? I don't see much... Must be Friday
[10:34] {GeoArb} yeah quad witch friday
[10:34] {Threei} nothing wortg chasing
[10:34] {Threei} and what Geo said
[10:35] {Threei} oil up, Fri, quad witching
[10:35] {dino} out cetv hit my stop somehow, +.56
[10:35] {Threei} enough reasons to stay very picky
[10:35] {GeoArb} nice
[10:35] {Threei} beauty dino
[10:35] {dino} ty, but look now, f'job
[10:36] {Threei} wither VNDA breaks .20 from here or I am out if .15 is broken down
[10:36] {Threei} either that was
[10:36] {dino} that should not have happened, i was way below
[10:36] {GeoArb} does your stop trigger on inside or any print dino?
[10:37] {Threei} what price wasd your stop at?
[10:37] {dino} any
[10:37] {dino} .42
[10:37] {GeoArb} do you have a choice?
[10:37] {dino} doesn't matter, just made me mad
[10:38] {dino} here's the problem, geo, 80% of time its' better to get taken out
[10:38] {Threei} that's disgusting stop run
[10:38] {dino} imo of course
[10:39] {dino} back down now, lets watch it
[10:39] {dino} see now under me
[10:39] {_Lisa_Jay} Why Dino?
[10:39] {dino} jumpy little thing
[10:39] {dino} out cpla .20, +.40
[10:40] {dino} jesse livermore said it best lisa, if you want out, get out
[10:40] {Threei} out VNDA
[10:40] {_Lisa_Jay} Thank you Dino.
[10:40] {dino} ok, watching bucy, cetv, wynn cpla
[10:41] {magoo} out VNDA too .12 TY
[10:41] {dino} in other words get out when you can, not when you must
[10:42] {_Lisa_Jay} Your other quote " Profits are slipperty. Take them fast." Another one stuck in my head.
[10:42] {dino} profits=luck, losses=skill
[10:43] {GeoArb} i must be very skilled :)
[10:43] {dino} lol
[10:43] {Threei} lol
[10:46] {dino} bucy sm l .80
[10:47] {Threei} ugh... VNDA continues
[10:50] {dino} asmi
[10:54] {dino} cetv l sm .20
[10:58] {_Lisa_Jay} ESLR?
[10:59] {dino} sohu
[11:01] {Threei} I have no idea how to read this stock Lisa
[11:01] {Threei} it's a mystery wrapped in enigma and covered with puzzle
[11:03] {dino} and sprinkled w/salt
[11:06] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes. Very jerky movements.
[11:06] {dino} cetv stop to .65
[11:07] {dino} out +.43
[11:07] {dino} .42
[11:08] {dino} bucy stop to .30
[11:08] {dino} to .40
[11:09] {kazaam} how does GMXR look if it breaks up?
[11:09] {dino} lol, forgot about wynn order at 97.60, guess i can kill that
[11:09] {dino} 87 that was
[11:10] {dino} bucy stopped at .50, +.70
[11:11] {magoo} dino kickin ass
[11:12] {dino} lucky
[11:12] {GeoArb} if he says skilled
[11:12] {GeoArb} means he is loosing
[11:12] {dino} :)
[11:13] {Threei} I hjate the way it trades kaz
[11:13] {Threei} hate
[11:14] {dino} cetv drops again
[11:14] {Threei} disgusting spread, drop 60 cents in one swoop
[11:14] {Threei} very unsafe stock
[11:15] {dino} adjust size
[11:15] {dino} bruce would say it'
[11:15] {dino} s going for double bottom
[11:17] {magoo} vad..what level in naz would trigger buying?
[11:18] {GeoArb} dino dcc pls
[11:18] {Threei} with multiple witching today, no such thing magoo
[11:19] {Threei} technicals are useless on such day
[11:19] {magoo} really.....ok
[11:21] {magoo} aapl long here .33
[11:21] {magoo} sorry fsast..risky..lookinbg for powerup
[11:24] {magoo} lay out 178.08
[11:25] {dino} cedc l sm .10
[11:26] {dino} was distracted
[11:33] {magoo} aapl gonna do it
[11:37] {dino} hun dead, tighten to .49
06[11:37] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:37] {kazaam} what size spread is too much? 10cent or more? of 5 cent or more?
06[11:38] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:38] {Threei} depends on one's risk tolerance
06[11:38] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:38] {Threei} I start cutting size down drastically when it's 10 cents and more
[11:39] {kazaam} oh i see, you size depending on spread as spread determine risk?
[11:39] {Threei} correct
[11:39] {Threei} plus other factors adding to risk evaluation
[11:39] {kazaam} does a higher spread usually indicate volitility or choppy behaviour?
[11:39] {Threei} sizes shown on Level 2, gap between levels
[11:39] {Threei} yes
[11:40] {Threei} thin stocks tend to be more volatile
[11:40] {GeoArb} ahh oil woes.... [F] Ford Motor Co Delaying launch of redesigned F-150 truck, citing slump in truck market, looks to increase car production
[11:40] {Threei} you have scalping course, right?
[11:40] {Threei} it's described in printed part
[11:40] {Threei} in MPP too if I remember correct
[11:40] {kazaam} yeah, i have been watching it, oh, havent been through all the written stuff
[11:41] {kazaam} will get to it this weekend
[11:41] {Threei} hey, you are supposed to read the manual! {G}
[11:41] {GeoArb} why
[11:41] {GeoArb} we have you
[11:41] {Threei} 'cause when I retire...
[11:41] {GeoArb} youre too young vad
[11:41] {GeoArb} (talk about sweettalking)
[11:42] {Threei} not if you consider each year in USSR counting for 3
[11:42] {GeoArb} hey there is a great article in WSJ
[11:42] {Threei} also, I am not sure whether I am going to come out of Alaska cruise alive
[11:42] {GeoArb} about how russian billionaires have climed the top layer of society in London
[11:42] {GeoArb} i was thinking i bet vad's sad he moved
[11:43] {Threei} my wife asks an agent a lot of questions about orcas swimming around and how easy it is to trip and fall in the water and whether there are a lot of people usually watching
[11:43] {GeoArb} lol
[11:43] {magoo} theres 08
[11:43] {Threei} not really Geo
[11:44] {Threei} to get there you need to step over more bodies than I can stomach
[11:44] {GeoArb} true
[11:44] {Threei} and I mean literally
[11:44] {GeoArb} yup
[11:45] {dino} the whate thing was cool vad, sign up for it, also helicopter to glacier
[11:45] {Threei} whale, no sure
[11:45] {GeoArb} any glaciers left?
[11:45] {dino} cedc stop to .49
[11:45] {Threei} had enough of that in Hawaii, and we have them here, sometimes can see right from the shore
[11:46] {Threei} I actually saw one from my crabbing dock
[11:46] {dino} ok then, hit some local pubs instead
[11:46] {Threei} hehe
[11:46] {dino} glaciers left, sure lots, just getting smaller
[11:46] {GeoArb} they are all melted and down in IOWA
[11:46] {GeoArb} why cant i get some water
[11:46] {Threei} yeah, and there is none left in Florida I heard
[11:46] {GeoArb} was 107 here yesterday
[11:47] {Chaeron} dont get me going on global warming...... ug
[11:47] {dino} you in fl geo?
[11:47] {Threei} fear not chaeron, Canada will save the world by taxing us for carbon emissions
[11:47] {GeoArb} comeone chaeron youre oon a nice breezy neighbourhood
[11:47] {GeoArb} nope los angeles
[11:47] {GeoArb} SF valley
[11:47] {dino} ahh
[11:48] {GeoArb} prob 50 miles from chaeron
[11:48] {Chaeron} OC Geo... looking at catalina as I type
[11:48] {dino} out cedc ave .50, +.40
[11:48] {GeoArb} thanks for that chaeron
[11:48] {Chaeron} sure
[11:48] {GeoArb} :)
[11:48] {Chaeron} it's 77 here too... make you feel better?
[11:49] {GeoArb} thats just wrong.....
[11:49] {GeoArb} its 99 here right now !
[11:49] {Chaeron} yeah... I know
[11:49] {GeoArb} dont worry chaeron
[11:49] {GeoArb} with global warming in 50 years.... ill be beach fonrt
[11:50] {Chaeron} don't use the airconditioner most summers... just open the window... I think I've used it maybe 10 times in 15 years..... hmmm
[11:51] {Chaeron} Geo - don't tell me you're a believer.......
[11:51] {GeoArb} i believe climate changes..... dont know about reasons
[11:51] {GeoArb} its basic cycles
[11:52] {dino} cycles agree
[11:52] {GeoArb} reasons could be anything
[11:52] {Chaeron} oh yes.. totally agree on cycles
[11:57] {Threei} VNDAS, what a powerful move after 6 break
[11:57] {Threei} VNDA
[12:01] {_Lisa_Jay} SDTH, i could just week.
[12:02] {magoo} that was the one SDTH
[12:02] {_Lisa_Jay} weep.
[12:03] {dptl} ceco?
[12:07] {GeoArb} off to work... slow day have a grat weekend
[12:07] {Threei} you too Geo
[12:07] {magoo} u 2 geo:)
[12:07] {Threei} hard to tell dp
[12:07] {Threei} went up a bit too much already
[12:07] {Roman} 21 NCOC going now
[12:11] {dptl} ok ty
[12:28] {dino} cetv approaches lod
[12:33] {_Lisa_Jay} Dino if you have a few minutes, can i bug you with a question about stops. Thanks.
[12:36] {kazaam} disgusting chop going on
[12:36] {Threei} yeah... just as we forecasted in the mroning
[12:36] {Threei} what's with TELK?
[12:36] {Threei} no news that I see
[12:36] {Threei} look at the volume
[12:38] {Chaeron} ncoc
[12:47] {dino} sure lisa
[12:48] {_Lisa_Jay} When do you start trailing or tigting your stops. I have been having trouble managing my positions. Thanks.
[12:50] {dino} depends, when stock gets up .50 i trail to .40, tougher stocks, i trail to b/e fast. markets are strange lately. and sometimes, things just feel "off", so tighten
[12:51] {_Lisa_Jay} Ok, thank you.
[12:56] {dino} mblx
[12:56] {Threei} SAUDI OIL MINISTER: CONFIRMS REPORT OF 200K BPD OIL OUPUT HIKE, STATES RISE WILL COME IN JULY, BOOST TOTAL SAUDI OUTPUT TO 9.7M BPD
[12:56] {Threei} - Promises to offer more information about the production increase in the next day or two.
[12:56] {Threei} - reminder: A lower level Saudi embassy official gave a similar confirmation yesterday. The Jeddah meeting between oil producer and consumer nations will be held on Sunday
[12:58] {Threei} OK guys, time for me to go to airport
[12:58] {Threei} be safe
[12:59] {Threei} help each other to find something good on Monday
[12:59] {Threei} I'll be back on Tuesday, with my trout unholstered
[12:59] {_Lisa_Jay} Thanks Vad. Hav fun.
[12:59] {dino} take care 3i
[13:00] {magoo} take care vad
[13:00] {Roman} 21 bye
[13:00] {dptl} you flying somewhere?
06[13:00] * Threei slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[13:00] {dptl} :)
[13:00] {Threei} thank you dp for this opportunity, it's a great way for me to end the week
[13:00] {dptl} lol
[13:00] {Threei} take care all :)
[08:05] {Threei} OPEC KELIL SAYS THAT PRODCUTION INCREASE IS ILOGICAL AND IRRATIOANAL
[08:05] {Threei} 06/20/08 08:00am
[08:05] {Threei} [HOKU] Hoku Scientific Collaborating with Great Western Malting on utilities
[08:05] {Threei} - Under the terms of its bid, The Orchard would assume control of TVT's catalogue of recorded masters, artist contracts and physical record distribution infrastructure, among other assets, but excluding its holdings in its music publishing subsidiary.
[08:07] {_Lisa_Jay} Good morning Vad, Dptl, Hawkfan4 and Jmb.
[08:07] {Threei} Good morning
[08:07] {hawkfan4} good morning
[08:09] {Threei} ESLR gapping down
[08:09] {Threei} what an impossible stock
[08:10] {Threei} such words as "follow through" are just not in its vocabulary
[08:13] {Threei} spam mail becomes plainly insulting
[08:13] {Threei} "Be a man finally"?
[08:14] {Threei} I liked "buy replica watches" better :)
[08:14] {Threei} coming at the rate about 400-500 a day
[08:14] {Threei} downside of having e-mail address posted
[08:15] {hawkfan4} lol, that's pretty bad
[08:15] {Threei} it is...
[08:15] {Threei} most irrtating thing, there is good chance to miss a valid one while deleting
[08:22] {_Lisa_Jay} Spam filter.
[08:24] {Threei} tried a lot of them
[08:24] {Threei} none seems to be effective enough
[08:30] {_3579} gm
[08:30] {Threei} 3579 :)
[08:31] {Threei} ENOC
[08:31] {Threei} SIGNS 110 MEGAWATT CONTRACT WITH SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON
[08:32] {_3579} vad i finished the last chapter of reminiscences of a stock operator last night that chapter is very depressing
[08:33] {Threei} why?
[08:34] {_3579} everyone dies poor
[08:34] {Threei} Jesse didn't
[08:34] {Threei} his estate was about 5 mil when he died
[08:35] {Threei} which in todsay's money is what
[08:35] {Threei} about 80?
[08:37] {Threei} but as famous Hawaiian rules say... He who dies with the most toys - still dies :)
[08:37] {_3579} all smart people with no self control, not him but the whales that lost everything looking for more good lesson
[08:37] {Threei} yeah... as long as leson is taking, why depressing? :)
[08:38] {Threei} rather encouraging as you got useful piece of someone's life experience
[08:38] {Threei} you can tell I am a positive one :)
[08:41] {_3579} i agree but to have so much and give it away, Morse the last guy the book speaks of has his body held by his landlady untill his rent is paid
[08:41] {_3579} thats depressing
[08:42] {_Lisa_Jay} The author probably wrote about all that to caution people about getting too greedy or less cautious.
[08:42] {_Lisa_Jay} Like a balance.
[08:42] {Threei} just speaks volumes about landlady :)
[08:42] {_Lisa_Jay} lol.
[08:42] {_3579} the book was great
[08:42] {Threei} certainly
[08:42] {Threei} there is a good reason why it became all time classic
[08:44] {Threei} what I'll never understand is this take often expressed:
[08:44] {Threei} "what is there to learn from a man who ended up killing himself"
[08:44] {Threei} sounds very unreasonable to me
[08:45] {Threei} man was fantastic trader, learn how he did it
[08:45] {Threei} his mental illlness that walked alongside throughout his entire life and eventually led to his death has nothing to do with his trading abilities
[08:46] {_3579} so many lessons in the book i found myself reading the same chapters over and over again
[08:46] {Threei} I know
[08:46] {Threei} and interesting thing is,
[08:46] {Threei} as your own trading experience grows, you will find new not seen earlier lessons in it
[08:47] {Threei} I am proud to hear the same about TTR... tells me it's in-depth book
[08:48] {Threei} OPEC PRESIDENT KHELIL: DEMANDS AMONG CONSUMERS FOR A SUPPLY HIKE ARE IRRATIONAL
[08:48] {Threei} - Adds that will argue against oil output increase during Jeddah meeting
[08:51] {_3579} i have read ttr two times this week i can not tell you how much it has helped me
[08:52] {Threei} good to hear :)
[08:52] {_3579} as you can see i have been reading around the clock
[08:53] {Threei} as long as you stop in time... :)
[08:53] {Threei} as esemde about his experience of reading over 100 books on tarding
[08:54] {_3579} you are going to be away on monday?
[08:54] {Threei} yes
[08:54] {Threei} leaving today midday
[08:55] {Threei} back Monday middday
[08:55] {_3579} have a good trip
[08:55] {Threei} thank you
[08:55] {Threei} been a serious while since I enjoyed trip
[08:55] {Threei} used to love it
[08:55] {_3579} you are coming to my area
[08:55] {Threei} with all the airport and in-flight bs of last years it xceased to be fun
[08:56] {Threei} you in NY?
[08:56] {_3579} yes Long Island
[08:56] {Threei} :)
[08:56] {Threei} very energizing city if visiting short
[08:56] {_3579} SHORT
[08:56] {Threei} for a permanent living I prefer more quiet :)
[08:56] {_3579} i dont love the city
[08:57] {_3579} i like grass
[08:57] {cosmo} hmm
[08:57] {Threei} add" oceanbeach, mountains, lakes, forest", and you have me and my place of living
[08:59] {magoo} morning
[08:59] {Threei} magoo :)
[09:00] {magoo} no replay...what u got going?
[09:00] {Threei} nothing so far
[09:00] {Threei} some fun discussion but you'll have read it in the log later
[09:01] {Threei} irritated that host can't restore replay after thrtee requests
[09:01] {cosmo} HBAN pre mkt high = 6.10 fwiw
[09:01] {Threei} reinforces my resolve to change host
[09:03] {cosmo} ....should hold 6
[09:04] {_Lisa_Jay} csiq up, eslr flat now.
[09:04] {Threei} if it were a normal stock, I'd say 12.40 break is long
[09:05] {Threei} with ESLR, I simply have no clue
[09:06] {magoo} MER getting hit vad {again}
[09:07] {dptl} good morning all
[09:07] {Threei} dp :)
[09:09] {esemde} good morning......
[09:09] {Threei} ese :)
[09:09] {dino} gm all
[09:09] {Threei} dino :)
[09:09] {dino} :)
[09:10] {Threei} looked in carbon tax plan yesterday... if Libs win election and implement it, I am moving to US
[09:10] {cosmo} careful with california 3i
[09:10] {cosmo} they might tax your exhale
[09:11] {Threei} OK.... Hawaii then
[09:11] {magoo} pennsyltuckey vad
[09:11] {dino} yes, and meanwhile other countries do as they please w/pollution
[09:12] {_Lisa_Jay} I love PA. R u closer to NJ or the other side Magoo?
[09:12] {Threei} yeah... but Canada responsible for like 1% of world pollution must kill its economy and send cost of living through the roof in order "to do right thing"
[09:13] {fernp} Good morning
[09:13] {Threei} ironically, tax plan is called "tex shiFt"
[09:13] {Threei} fern :)
[09:13] {Threei} tax shiFt
[09:14] {Threei} guess how it plays out with other parties :)
[09:14] {Threei} "you are full of shift" ot "shift happens" is repeated in parliament on hourly basis
[09:16] {dino} close to nj, lisa
[09:16] {Threei} CNBC'S FABER NOTES THAT MER RUMOR OF POSSIBLE PREANNOUCEMENT IS UNTRUE
[09:18] {dino} sounds like bs, leh
[09:22] {_Lisa_Jay} WU raises guidence.
[09:25] {magoo} north east corner PA lisa
[09:25] {magoo} 2 hours from ny city
[09:25] {_Lisa_Jay} Oh. I visit Horsham every month.
[09:27] {Threei} let's stay on a careful icky conservative side today
[09:28] {Threei} icky = picky
[09:28] {GeoArb} no replay.... why?
[09:28] {Threei} freudian slip?... :)
[09:28] {Threei} because host deserves to be taken out and shot Geo
[09:28] {GeoArb} why dont we just use othernet or something?
[09:29] {Threei} some functionality isn't there on free hosting
[09:29] {GeoArb} true true
[09:29] {Threei} working on finding better host
[09:29] {GeoArb} so why careful today?
[09:30] {Threei} Friday... too good of a week to spoil it... nervous market...
[09:30] {GeoArb} ok
[09:32] {Threei} watching VPHM
[09:32] {Threei} .35 - .45 range
[09:33] {Threei} with big offers at .50 - .51, not sure though
[09:33] {Threei} maybe wait for more consolidatin and try .51 if it melts
[09:33] {Threei} if stays above .40
[09:34] {Threei} how about this 50 cents selloff ESLR
[09:34] {Threei} right after .40 break
[09:35] {Threei} what a trap
[09:35] {magoo} all solars on watcch lisat red
[09:36] {Roman} 21 ROYL
[09:36] {Roman} 21 in small
[09:38] {dino} lol, cnbc two weeks ago, new rally get in, today they are gloom and doomers, get out. so buy high sell low i guess
[09:39] {dino} fwiw, watching cpla, hun, bucy, cedc
[09:39] {dino} snp, ptr
[09:41] {Roman} 21 CSIQ
[09:41] {Roman} 21 bouncer
[09:42] {dino} ioc ouch
[09:42] {Threei} JASO
[09:43] {Threei} WEAKNESS ATTRIBUTED TO CAUTIOUS COMMENTS AT MERRILL
[09:43] {magoo} news AAPL vad?
[09:44] {esemde} out ESLR my little 300 shs lot .30 from yesterday at 12.45 +1.15
[09:44] {Threei} nothing fresh
[09:44] {Threei} wtg ese
[09:44] {Roman} 21 long SEED
[09:44] {Roman} 21 6.95-7.00 area
[09:45] {dino} sm risky long ioc .95
[09:46] {Roman} 21 long NCOC
[09:46] {Roman} 21 9.36 stop under 9.20
[09:48] {Threei} MRVL
[09:48] {Roman} 21 NCOC looking to sell first lot over 10
[09:48] {GeoArb} mrvl
[09:48] {Threei} .56 long, .44 stop
[09:50] {cosmo} VPHM
[09:50] {Threei} so far so good
[09:51] {cosmo} testy
[09:51] {dino} ioc stop to b/e not moving
[09:52] {Threei} MRVL invalidated
[09:53] {dino} ioc stopped -.02
[09:53] {Threei} VNDA?
[09:54] {Threei} your baby Roman
[09:54] {esemde} out of commision here...questrade is down
[09:54] {Roman} 21 love it Vad
[09:54] {Threei} 6 break?
[09:55] {Threei} daily looks fantastic, I just don't know personality of this one
[09:55] {Roman} 21 yes, but can I answer this question in 10 minutes
[09:55] {Roman} 21 ?
[09:55] {Threei} sigh
[09:55] {dino} lod's
[09:55] {dino} -300 patuience? gut says so
[09:55] {_Lisa_Jay} rebooting, be right back.
[09:55] {patience} not sure dino
[09:56] {dino} bet you 1 bud light lime
[09:56] {patience} oh now we're talking
[09:56] {GeoArb} what can i say
[09:56] {GeoArb} comitted traders
[09:56] {Threei} lol
[09:57] {GeoArb} passion all around
[09:57] {dino} :)
[09:57] {Roman} 21 i'll bet against you dino
[09:57] {esemde} whats the story on VNDA
[09:57] {dino} ok
[09:58] {dino} you usually do :)
[09:58] {Roman} 21 PLLL
[09:58] {Threei} healthcare stock ese
[09:58] {esemde} news today
[09:58] {Threei} nope
[09:59] {Threei} VPHM is oblivious to market drop
[10:01] {esemde} SQNM looks exactly like ESLR on daily
[10:01] {esemde} check that...
[10:02] {esemde} was looking at 15min chart
[10:02] {judijim} good morning to you all
[10:02] {esemde} jj
[10:02] {Threei} jj :)
[10:02] {Threei} SDTH
[10:02] {Threei} PLANNING ACQUISITION OF FERTILIZER COMPANY, RELOCATING CHEMICAL PLANT
[10:02] {Threei} - Planning to acquire Jinan Fertilizer Co., Ltd., a nitrogenous fertilizer company based in Jinan, the capital of Shandong Province.
[10:03] {Threei} VPHM invalidated
[10:03] {GeoArb} ya know
[10:04] {GeoArb} the beer is owed dino
[10:04] {Threei} ok Roman... your time is up
[10:04] {Threei} VNDA 7 or 5 today?
[10:05] {dino} de hitting march lows
[10:05] {Threei} colars disconnected from oil completely
[10:05] {Threei} solars
[10:05] {GeoArb} i have this over lay of oil on NQ
[10:06] {GeoArb} the chart looks like an open end of a scissor
[10:06] {dino} 11,620 3/08 lows dji
[10:06] {Threei} with economy in the middle Geo?
[10:06] {GeoArb} heheh
[10:06] {GeoArb} yup
[10:09] {Roman} 21 stopped NCOC
[10:09] {dino} must be short term chart geo?
[10:09] {GeoArb} oh yes
[10:09] {GeoArb} just today
[10:10] {dino} ok
[10:11] {dino} cetv
[10:15] {esemde} A
[10:15] {_Lisa_Jay} SDTH
[10:15] {esemde} APOL only stock on ndx bucking the trend
[10:16] {dino} fwlt
[10:17] {esemde} PODD how bout this recovery from days low
[10:17] {dino} sm l cpla .80
[10:17] {dino} thin
[10:19] {dino} cetv sm l .80, risky
[10:20] {Threei} PTEN tries to follow through
[10:20] {Threei} pullback to 35 - 35.05 are worth entry
[10:20] {Threei} first strength from here
[10:21] {Threei} stop .89 or .94, depending on your risk tolerance
[10:21] {dino} hun l .70 stop .37
[10:22] {Threei} invalidated
[10:22] {esemde} LULU had linit order for 1/2 qat .60 ...no fill damn!!!
[10:22] {esemde} 1/2 lot that is
[10:23] {dino} itmn
[10:24] {esemde} another huge bounce dino like PODD
[10:26] {Threei} SDTH looks to cut through 9
[10:27] {dino} es you get podd/
[10:28] {_Lisa_Jay} Yeah...did not know where to put my risk stop as it broke through 8.70 - 8.75. So did not take trade :-(
[10:28] {Threei} why not ask
[10:28] {_Lisa_Jay} Sorry, next time i will. Thank you.
[10:28] {_Lisa_Jay} Pass me the box of tissues please.
[10:28] {GeoArb} i am thinking of asking vad about every trade after its done
[10:28] {magoo} dam SDTH
[10:29] {esemde} long ASBC .32
[10:29] {magoo} looked away pow
[10:29] {GeoArb} after all i forget... i am here to learn to fish and just not takehis calls
[10:29] {GeoArb} is that ok vad ?:)
[10:29] {Chaeron} good morning fellow fishermen :)
[10:29] {Threei} chaweron :)
[10:29] {GeoArb} hey chaeron
[10:29] {dino} thats right goe
[10:30] {Threei} sure geo, under one condition
[10:30] {magoo} charbroil:)
[10:30] {Chaeron} hey geo, Tweei
[10:30] {dino} wynnblood
[10:30] {GeoArb} ?
[10:30] {Threei} man who learned how to fish usually goes out in a boat and sits with 6 pack... so condition is - take TWO 6 packs, one for me
[10:30] {GeoArb} anytime vad
[10:31] {GeoArb} ill mail you one
[10:31] {GeoArb} as i told chaeron months ago..........
[10:31] {esemde} out ASBC...42 quick hit +.10....gotta go...have a great weekend everyone
[10:31] {Threei} take care ese, have a great one
[10:31] {GeoArb} I had to shovel a lot of shit to find this pony(room)
[10:31] {Chaeron} bye ese... nice scalp
[10:31] {GeoArb} bye ese
[10:32] {Chaeron} lol
[10:32] {Chaeron} magoo - replay not working here... any fun you're looking at?
[10:32] {Threei} chaeron is crouping today... tWeei?
[10:32] {GeoArb} i thought that was a cute lisp
[10:33] {Chaeron} [07:28] {Threei} chaweron :)
[10:33] {Threei} oh
[10:33] {Threei} rolf
[10:33] {Threei} or rofl
[10:33] {GeoArb} lol
[10:33] {Chaeron} :)
[10:33] {Threei} good comeback then :)
[10:34] {Chaeron} thanks... now what's shakin? I don't see much... Must be Friday
[10:34] {GeoArb} yeah quad witch friday
[10:34] {Threei} nothing wortg chasing
[10:34] {Threei} and what Geo said
[10:35] {Threei} oil up, Fri, quad witching
[10:35] {dino} out cetv hit my stop somehow, +.56
[10:35] {Threei} enough reasons to stay very picky
[10:35] {GeoArb} nice
[10:35] {Threei} beauty dino
[10:35] {dino} ty, but look now, f'job
[10:36] {Threei} wither VNDA breaks .20 from here or I am out if .15 is broken down
[10:36] {Threei} either that was
[10:36] {dino} that should not have happened, i was way below
[10:36] {GeoArb} does your stop trigger on inside or any print dino?
[10:37] {Threei} what price wasd your stop at?
[10:37] {dino} any
[10:37] {dino} .42
[10:37] {GeoArb} do you have a choice?
[10:37] {dino} doesn't matter, just made me mad
[10:38] {dino} here's the problem, geo, 80% of time its' better to get taken out
[10:38] {Threei} that's disgusting stop run
[10:38] {dino} imo of course
[10:39] {dino} back down now, lets watch it
[10:39] {dino} see now under me
[10:39] {_Lisa_Jay} Why Dino?
[10:39] {dino} jumpy little thing
[10:39] {dino} out cpla .20, +.40
[10:40] {dino} jesse livermore said it best lisa, if you want out, get out
[10:40] {Threei} out VNDA
[10:40] {_Lisa_Jay} Thank you Dino.
[10:40] {dino} ok, watching bucy, cetv, wynn cpla
[10:41] {magoo} out VNDA too .12 TY
[10:41] {dino} in other words get out when you can, not when you must
[10:42] {_Lisa_Jay} Your other quote " Profits are slipperty. Take them fast." Another one stuck in my head.
[10:42] {dino} profits=luck, losses=skill
[10:43] {GeoArb} i must be very skilled :)
[10:43] {dino} lol
[10:43] {Threei} lol
[10:46] {dino} bucy sm l .80
[10:47] {Threei} ugh... VNDA continues
[10:50] {dino} asmi
[10:54] {dino} cetv l sm .20
[10:58] {_Lisa_Jay} ESLR?
[10:59] {dino} sohu
[11:01] {Threei} I have no idea how to read this stock Lisa
[11:01] {Threei} it's a mystery wrapped in enigma and covered with puzzle
[11:03] {dino} and sprinkled w/salt
[11:06] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes. Very jerky movements.
[11:06] {dino} cetv stop to .65
[11:07] {dino} out +.43
[11:07] {dino} .42
[11:08] {dino} bucy stop to .30
[11:08] {dino} to .40
[11:09] {kazaam} how does GMXR look if it breaks up?
[11:09] {dino} lol, forgot about wynn order at 97.60, guess i can kill that
[11:09] {dino} 87 that was
[11:10] {dino} bucy stopped at .50, +.70
[11:11] {magoo} dino kickin ass
[11:12] {dino} lucky
[11:12] {GeoArb} if he says skilled
[11:12] {GeoArb} means he is loosing
[11:12] {dino} :)
[11:13] {Threei} I hjate the way it trades kaz
[11:13] {Threei} hate
[11:14] {dino} cetv drops again
[11:14] {Threei} disgusting spread, drop 60 cents in one swoop
[11:14] {Threei} very unsafe stock
[11:15] {dino} adjust size
[11:15] {dino} bruce would say it'
[11:15] {dino} s going for double bottom
[11:17] {magoo} vad..what level in naz would trigger buying?
[11:18] {GeoArb} dino dcc pls
[11:18] {Threei} with multiple witching today, no such thing magoo
[11:19] {Threei} technicals are useless on such day
[11:19] {magoo} really.....ok
[11:21] {magoo} aapl long here .33
[11:21] {magoo} sorry fsast..risky..lookinbg for powerup
[11:24] {magoo} lay out 178.08
[11:25] {dino} cedc l sm .10
[11:26] {dino} was distracted
[11:33] {magoo} aapl gonna do it
[11:37] {dino} hun dead, tighten to .49
06[11:37] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:37] {kazaam} what size spread is too much? 10cent or more? of 5 cent or more?
06[11:38] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:38] {Threei} depends on one's risk tolerance
06[11:38] * magoo slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[11:38] {Threei} I start cutting size down drastically when it's 10 cents and more
[11:39] {kazaam} oh i see, you size depending on spread as spread determine risk?
[11:39] {Threei} correct
[11:39] {Threei} plus other factors adding to risk evaluation
[11:39] {kazaam} does a higher spread usually indicate volitility or choppy behaviour?
[11:39] {Threei} sizes shown on Level 2, gap between levels
[11:39] {Threei} yes
[11:40] {Threei} thin stocks tend to be more volatile
[11:40] {GeoArb} ahh oil woes.... [F] Ford Motor Co Delaying launch of redesigned F-150 truck, citing slump in truck market, looks to increase car production
[11:40] {Threei} you have scalping course, right?
[11:40] {Threei} it's described in printed part
[11:40] {Threei} in MPP too if I remember correct
[11:40] {kazaam} yeah, i have been watching it, oh, havent been through all the written stuff
[11:41] {kazaam} will get to it this weekend
[11:41] {Threei} hey, you are supposed to read the manual! {G}
[11:41] {GeoArb} why
[11:41] {GeoArb} we have you
[11:41] {Threei} 'cause when I retire...
[11:41] {GeoArb} youre too young vad
[11:41] {GeoArb} (talk about sweettalking)
[11:42] {Threei} not if you consider each year in USSR counting for 3
[11:42] {GeoArb} hey there is a great article in WSJ
[11:42] {Threei} also, I am not sure whether I am going to come out of Alaska cruise alive
[11:42] {GeoArb} about how russian billionaires have climed the top layer of society in London
[11:42] {GeoArb} i was thinking i bet vad's sad he moved
[11:43] {Threei} my wife asks an agent a lot of questions about orcas swimming around and how easy it is to trip and fall in the water and whether there are a lot of people usually watching
[11:43] {GeoArb} lol
[11:43] {magoo} theres 08
[11:43] {Threei} not really Geo
[11:44] {Threei} to get there you need to step over more bodies than I can stomach
[11:44] {GeoArb} true
[11:44] {Threei} and I mean literally
[11:44] {GeoArb} yup
[11:45] {dino} the whate thing was cool vad, sign up for it, also helicopter to glacier
[11:45] {Threei} whale, no sure
[11:45] {GeoArb} any glaciers left?
[11:45] {dino} cedc stop to .49
[11:45] {Threei} had enough of that in Hawaii, and we have them here, sometimes can see right from the shore
[11:46] {Threei} I actually saw one from my crabbing dock
[11:46] {dino} ok then, hit some local pubs instead
[11:46] {Threei} hehe
[11:46] {dino} glaciers left, sure lots, just getting smaller
[11:46] {GeoArb} they are all melted and down in IOWA
[11:46] {GeoArb} why cant i get some water
[11:46] {Threei} yeah, and there is none left in Florida I heard
[11:46] {GeoArb} was 107 here yesterday
[11:47] {Chaeron} dont get me going on global warming...... ug
[11:47] {dino} you in fl geo?
[11:47] {Threei} fear not chaeron, Canada will save the world by taxing us for carbon emissions
[11:47] {GeoArb} comeone chaeron youre oon a nice breezy neighbourhood
[11:47] {GeoArb} nope los angeles
[11:47] {GeoArb} SF valley
[11:47] {dino} ahh
[11:48] {GeoArb} prob 50 miles from chaeron
[11:48] {Chaeron} OC Geo... looking at catalina as I type
[11:48] {dino} out cedc ave .50, +.40
[11:48] {GeoArb} thanks for that chaeron
[11:48] {Chaeron} sure
[11:48] {GeoArb} :)
[11:48] {Chaeron} it's 77 here too... make you feel better?
[11:49] {GeoArb} thats just wrong.....
[11:49] {GeoArb} its 99 here right now !
[11:49] {Chaeron} yeah... I know
[11:49] {GeoArb} dont worry chaeron
[11:49] {GeoArb} with global warming in 50 years.... ill be beach fonrt
[11:50] {Chaeron} don't use the airconditioner most summers... just open the window... I think I've used it maybe 10 times in 15 years..... hmmm
[11:51] {Chaeron} Geo - don't tell me you're a believer.......
[11:51] {GeoArb} i believe climate changes..... dont know about reasons
[11:51] {GeoArb} its basic cycles
[11:52] {dino} cycles agree
[11:52] {GeoArb} reasons could be anything
[11:52] {Chaeron} oh yes.. totally agree on cycles
[11:57] {Threei} VNDAS, what a powerful move after 6 break
[11:57] {Threei} VNDA
[12:01] {_Lisa_Jay} SDTH, i could just week.
[12:02] {magoo} that was the one SDTH
[12:02] {_Lisa_Jay} weep.
[12:03] {dptl} ceco?
[12:07] {GeoArb} off to work... slow day have a grat weekend
[12:07] {Threei} you too Geo
[12:07] {magoo} u 2 geo:)
[12:07] {Threei} hard to tell dp
[12:07] {Threei} went up a bit too much already
[12:07] {Roman} 21 NCOC going now
[12:11] {dptl} ok ty
[12:28] {dino} cetv approaches lod
[12:33] {_Lisa_Jay} Dino if you have a few minutes, can i bug you with a question about stops. Thanks.
[12:36] {kazaam} disgusting chop going on
[12:36] {Threei} yeah... just as we forecasted in the mroning
[12:36] {Threei} what's with TELK?
[12:36] {Threei} no news that I see
[12:36] {Threei} look at the volume
[12:38] {Chaeron} ncoc
[12:47] {dino} sure lisa
[12:48] {_Lisa_Jay} When do you start trailing or tigting your stops. I have been having trouble managing my positions. Thanks.
[12:50] {dino} depends, when stock gets up .50 i trail to .40, tougher stocks, i trail to b/e fast. markets are strange lately. and sometimes, things just feel "off", so tighten
[12:51] {_Lisa_Jay} Ok, thank you.
[12:56] {dino} mblx
[12:56] {Threei} SAUDI OIL MINISTER: CONFIRMS REPORT OF 200K BPD OIL OUPUT HIKE, STATES RISE WILL COME IN JULY, BOOST TOTAL SAUDI OUTPUT TO 9.7M BPD
[12:56] {Threei} - Promises to offer more information about the production increase in the next day or two.
[12:56] {Threei} - reminder: A lower level Saudi embassy official gave a similar confirmation yesterday. The Jeddah meeting between oil producer and consumer nations will be held on Sunday
[12:58] {Threei} OK guys, time for me to go to airport
[12:58] {Threei} be safe
[12:59] {Threei} help each other to find something good on Monday
[12:59] {Threei} I'll be back on Tuesday, with my trout unholstered
[12:59] {_Lisa_Jay} Thanks Vad. Hav fun.
[12:59] {dino} take care 3i
[13:00] {magoo} take care vad
[13:00] {Roman} 21 bye
[13:00] {dptl} you flying somewhere?
06[13:00] * Threei slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[13:00] {dptl} :)
[13:00] {Threei} thank you dp for this opportunity, it's a great way for me to end the week
[13:00] {dptl} lol
[13:00] {Threei} take care all :)
