Jun 18 2008
Session Time: Wed Jun 18 00:00:00 2008
[08:05] {Threei} [FDX] Fedex Corp Reports Q4 $1.45 (ex items) v $1.47e, R $9.87B v $9.6Be
[08:05] {Threei} - Guides Q1 EPS $0.80-1.00 v $1.27e.
[08:05] {Threei} - Guides FY09 EPS $4.75-$5.25 v $5.92e
[08:05] {Threei} - Fedex states "This guidance incorporates the current high fuel prices and the related impact on fuel surcharges, which are reducing demand for FedEx services and impacting yield across the company's transportation segments. This outlook assumes no additional increases to current fuel prices and no further weakening in the economy."
[08:06] {_Lisa_Jay} Good morning Vad.
[08:13] {Threei} Good morning :)
[08:15] {Threei} Ordinary Germans have begun to reject euro bank notes with serial numbers from Italy, Spain, Greece and Portugal, raising concerns that public support for monetary union may be waning in the eurozone's anchor country
[08:15] {Threei} jeez, is world in troubles or what
[08:23] {_Lisa_Jay} It would seem so with futures down today :-)
[08:52] {Threei} PRESIDENT BUSH TO MAKE OIL DRILLING STATEMENT AT 10:35AM ET - WHITE HOUSE STATEMENT
[08:59] {fernp} Good morning
[09:00] {dptl} good morning all
[09:00] {Threei} fern, dp :)
[09:03] {GeoArb} .
[09:03] {Threei} fine point
[09:03] {GeoArb} gm
[09:03] {Threei} geo :)
[09:03] {GeoArb} no replay today for me?
[09:04] {Threei} chat host has difficulties
[09:04] {GeoArb} ok
[09:04] {Threei} not sure it's plausible to waste time trying to fix, we are in a process of searching for new one
[09:05] {GeoArb} ok
[09:12] {pita} gm all
[09:12] {Threei} pita :)
[09:15] {cosmo} BEXP
[09:17] {cosmo} Brigham Exploration announces Southern Louisiana discoveryBriefing.com(Wed 6:06am)
[09:22] {esemde} morning....
[09:22] {Threei} ese :)
[09:26] {cosmo} BEXP pre mkt high = 18.55 fwiw
[09:26] {cosmo} testing
[09:31] {Threei} BEXP cross back over 18 worth a try if holding 17.80
[09:31] {cosmo} hmmm
[09:32] {Threei} .50 nearest support now
[09:32] {cosmo} speech in one hour...
[09:32] {cosmo} fwiw
[09:33] {Raven} 3 what will you speak about, cosmo ?
[09:33] {magoo} morning
[09:33] {Threei} magoo :)
[09:33] {Raven} 3 m a g o o
[09:33] {cosmo} "there are no coincidences"
[09:34] {cosmo} i think
[09:34] {Raven} 3 I will tune in
[09:36] {Threei} SOLF 21 break long if holding above 20.80
[09:37] {Threei} don't chase
[09:37] {Threei} broke too fast
[09:37] {Threei} if pullas back into 21, worth retry
[09:37] {Threei} gave second chance, stop under 20.80
[09:39] {Threei} 1:1, half out
[09:40] {Threei} 1:2, out in full
[09:42] {hawkfan4} beauty vad, +.38 thx
[09:42] {Threei} :)
[09:43] {Threei} ABAT
[09:43] {Threei} 5 long trigger
[09:43] {Threei} if holding above 4.75
[09:47] {Threei} ugh
[09:48] {Threei} missed ARBA 16 break
[09:48] {Threei} if pulls back closer to 16 will be interested
[09:49] {judijim} good morning everyone
[09:49] {Threei} jj :)
[09:49] {Threei} ROYL, half lot .25 long
[09:49] {Threei} very risky one
[09:49] {magoo} ever have tis issue vad, i try to add symbol it shows in the white highlite as i type in but won't stay or load
[09:49] {Threei} stop under 9
[09:50] {Threei} let's better keep stop under 9.10
[09:50] {Threei} better get shaken out than let it go too far against us
[09:51] {fernp} out ARRS +.11 llitle scalp . Thanks for SOLF Vad
[09:51] {Threei} fern :)
[09:51] {Threei} no mags, not sure what the cause
[09:51] {magoo} i rebooted to correct it
[09:51] {magoo} ty
[09:53] {Threei} stopped ROYL
[09:53] {Threei} don't want to get stuck with it, too volatile
[09:55] {Threei} watching CSIQ
[09:55] {esemde} am gonna bstop ESLR at 10.41 again....have done well with this since last week
[09:55] {Threei} CSIQ pullback buy
[09:55] {Threei} very hard to nail exact entry
[09:57] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE SAYS THAT LIFTING OFFSHORE DRILLING BAN WOULD HAVE AN EFFECTR ON OIL PRICE, BUT WOULD BE DIFFUCALT TO QUANTIFY
[09:58] {Threei} good spot to try CSIQ
[09:58] {Threei} stop under .50
[09:58] {Threei} don't chase
[09:58] {Threei} either you got it around .80 or let it go
[10:00] {Threei} ROYL fooled me eh?
[10:03] {Threei} OMNI
[10:04] {Threei} .70 break long, ROYL sympathy
[10:04] {Threei} low volume
[10:04] {Threei} stop under .50
[10:04] {Roman} 21 long COIN
[10:04] {Roman} 21 7.00 small
[10:05] {Roman} 21 long NCOC 9.01 small
[10:05] {Threei} ARBA never gave a chance really?
[10:09] {_Lisa_Jay} Pnra took it for a .30 scalp...still going :-(
[10:09] {Roman} 21 out 1/2 COIN +.50
[10:09] {Threei} nice COIN
[10:09] {Threei} Lisa... profit is profit
[10:09] {Threei} volatile one, could turn on you just as well
[10:10] {Roman} 21 out remaining COIN +.68
[10:10] {magoo} beauty roman
[10:11] {Roman} 21 ty, u took some?
[10:12] {kazaam} what do u think of APWR?
[10:12] {magoo} i missed
[10:12] {Threei} CSIQ new highs
[10:12] {Threei} that 50 looks to be reached
[10:13] {_Lisa_Jay} Do you have limit orders on omni? Moved 10c very fast.
[10:13] {Threei} I hate the spread kaz
[10:13] {Roman} 21 SEED
[10:13] {Roman} 21 long off 6
[10:13] {Threei} had .72 limit Lisa, hit it as .70 started scroling fast and got .70
[10:13] {Roman} 21 off 7.00 SEED
[10:14] {_Lisa_Jay} Thank you Vad.
[10:15] {Chaeron} Good morning all
[10:15] {Threei} chaeron :)
[10:15] {Chaeron} no replay... may I ask what we're playing/stalking?
[10:15] {hawkfan4} csiq sweet vad, 1/2 out +.76
[10:16] {Threei} hawk :)
[10:16] {Threei} in OMNI chaeron
[10:16] {Threei} but don't chase
[10:16] {Threei} entry 12 cents ago
[10:16] {Chaeron} nice
[10:16] {cosmo} ABAT breaks...
[10:16] {Threei} almost
[10:16] {Threei} trigger is intact
[10:16] {Threei} held .75
[10:17] {cosmo} soon
[10:17] {Threei} there
[10:17] {Threei} has real runner potential
[10:17] {magoo} which?ABAT?
[10:17] {Threei} yes
[10:17] {cosmo} just like a bunny
[10:18] {Roman} 21 VNDA
[10:18] {Roman} 21 in small
[10:18] {Roman} 21 5.54 stop 5.25
[10:18] {Roman} 21 5.35
[10:18] {Threei} OMNI over 1:1
[10:18] {Threei} half out
[10:18] {Threei} scalpers know what to do
[10:19] {Threei} what was ABAT news?
[10:19] {Threei} my news supply doesn't even has symbol
[10:20] {Threei} ABAT over 1:1
[10:21] {kazaam} do you generally prefer long setups? curious since market opens down but only long setups are taken
[10:21] {Threei} half out +.25, stop to 4.89, letting other half run
[10:22] {Threei} I don't really care kaz
[10:22] {Threei} just didn't see any interesting short
[10:22] {cosmo} ABAT no news it seems
[10:23] {Threei} market is not homogeneous
[10:23] {Threei} it's down overall but there are sectors and stocks that move up
[10:23] {magoo} abat beauty spot vad
[10:23] {Threei} cosmo pounded the table on it yesterday
[10:24] {cosmo} that explains my sore head
[10:24] {Threei} why use your forehead for it
[10:24] {Threei} use someone's
[10:25] {cosmo} its... a passion, i guess
[10:25] {Threei} ah
[10:26] {Threei} wow VNDA
[10:26] {Threei} Roman is hot today
[10:26] {Threei} (again)
[10:27] {_Lisa_Jay} For stops do you guys us hard stops or just finger on mouse? Thanks.
[10:27] {Threei} MNST
[10:27] {Threei} looks short
[10:27] {Threei} half lot, right here
[10:27] {Threei} stop .21
[10:28] {Threei} I prefer mental stops Lisa, using hard ones only if I need to leave computer
[10:28] {hawkfan4} oil #'s in a few minutes
[10:28] {kazaam} what if you are in 2-3 plays at the same time?
[10:28] {Threei} I would never take a few of fast ones
[10:29] {Threei} and if they are slow, I can watch them with no problem
[10:29] {Threei} I mean... to play CSIQ, RIMM and AAPL at he same time, one should be either world champion in videogames or plainly insane
[10:30] {dptl} where did you get mnst Vad?....i am so slow today
[10:30] {Threei} from scanner? :)
[10:30] {dptl} lol at what price
[10:30] {Threei} oh, sorry
[10:30] {Threei} didn't mean to be smart a$$
[10:30] {Threei} 21.07
[10:31] {dptl} ty :)
[10:32] {_Lisa_Jay} [10:09] {Threei} Lisa... profit is profit
[10:32] {_Lisa_Jay} [10:09] {Threei} volatile one, could turn on you just as well
[10:32] {Threei} that's my story and I stick to it
[10:33] {_Lisa_Jay} PNRA tanked :-)
[10:33] {Threei} good... less regret :)
[10:34] {Threei} but the point is... no need for negative emotions on a winning play
[10:34] {Threei} you will have enough losing ones for that, why add :)
[10:34] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes. Especially if i took another .20 scalp on it.
[10:35] {Threei} *DOE CRUDE: -1.24M V -1.2ME
[10:35] {Threei} GASOLINE: -1.18M V +750KE; DISTILLATES: +2.62M V +1.8ME; UTILIZATION: 89.3% V 89.1%E
[10:35] {Threei} *API Inventory:
[10:35] {Threei} - Crude Inventories: -3.1M
[10:35] {Threei} - Gasoline: -2.4M
[10:35] {Threei} - Distillate: +1.4M
[10:35] {hawkfan4} Bush on tv, actually mentioned working on supporting "advanced batteries" . A presidential pump
[10:37] {cosmo} for batteries? ... weird...
[10:38] {hawkfan4} he's talking about lifting the ban on offshore oil..just thot it was funny, ABAT=advanced battery
[10:40] {cosmo} a battery tech breakthru would solve many problems
[10:41] {Threei} you see any news on it hawk?
[10:41] {Threei} or it's just a discovered play?
[10:42] {hawkfan4} nope, none since may
[10:42] {Threei} hmmm
[10:42] {Threei} PRESIDENT BUSH: REITERATES STANCE THAT RISING ENERGY PRICES ARE DUE TO HIGHER OIL PRICES
[10:42] {Threei} really?... no, really?
[10:44] {cosmo} price rising = enron x 1000?
[10:44] {cosmo} 10,000?
[10:46] {Threei} fiiinally MNST
[10:46] {dptl} out +.14 mnst ty (got 21.14 on pull back)
[10:46] {Threei} covered too
[10:46] {_Lisa_Jay} MNST....price retraced back up till .20 (stop at .21) wow. Now it is back down. Amazing or black magic?
[10:46] {Threei} both
[10:47] {Threei} kaz... there you go, short by your request :)
[10:47] {dptl} :)
[10:47] {kazaam} thank god, i dont have to take my meds now
[10:47] {kazaam} was getting twitchy
06[10:47] * Threei is thinking of offering new service: Call per Demand
[10:48] {dptl} lol
[10:48] {kazaam} heh
[10:48] {Threei} for a small administrative fee of just $100 per call you will be able to order your own call
[10:52] {Roman} 21 BDCO
[10:57] {dptl} lpx?
[10:59] {Threei} hard to tell... stalled, no momentum
[10:59] {dptl} pk ty
[10:59] {dptl} ok
[11:04] {hawkfan4} bexp close to 17 vad?, stop under .90?
[11:05] {Threei} if gets there... just not on price alone, watch for tide to turn
[11:05] {Threei} pure risk based setup
[11:05] {hawkfan4} ok, thanks
[11:06] {Threei} SATC bothers me... daily is classic pullback into support
[11:07] {Threei} very tempting... I just hate that it's so slow, not likely to be resolved as a day trade
[11:07] {Threei} and swing trade in this climate is not very sttractive
[11:08] {magoo} agree..
[11:12] {peterg} How do you use Intelliscan? I have Euphoria, Capitulation, JBE & DBI Seems good place to start. Recommendations?
[11:14] {Threei} you can download my layout
[11:14] {GeoArb} now thats a Q i recognize
[11:14] {Threei} to see all windows that I see
[11:14] {GeoArb} be carefull with that layout though peter.... :)
[11:14] {Threei} lol
[11:14] {peterg} seemed like information overload when I did it.
[11:15] {Threei} just eliminate those windows that are too much :)
[11:15] {GeoArb} it sent me into coma
[11:15] {peterg} tks
[11:15] {Threei} why do you think I never come out of it
[11:15] {peterg} I see....
[11:15] {Threei} for JBE and capitulation better use settings from my layout
[11:15] {Threei} they are tuned up better than standard
[11:16] {Threei} also, when you go to configuration, you can see a lot more of built-in strategies
[11:17] {Threei} many are fairly interesting
[11:18] {peterg} ok thanks back in hr-I'll try again and chance coma.
[11:18] {Roman} 21 BDCO
[11:18] {Roman} 21 sorry wrong window
[11:19] {GeoArb} is that for the superlicious trader window?
[11:19] {Roman} 21 :)
[11:20] {kazaam} NTRS, what would be the best way to take profit? exit half at 1:1 and then move stop to 71.00?
[11:20] {Threei} what was the entry?
[11:21] {kazaam} 70.85
[11:21] {Threei} I'd dump half here,
[11:21] {Threei} trailed stop to just under 71
[11:22] {Threei} as soon as it reaches high again, stop to under 71.10
[11:22] {Threei} which proved to be support twice already
[11:22] {Threei} and look for the next spike to exit in full
[11:23] {kazaam} on entry i had my stop at 70.40, is that reasonable or could have have gone tighter?
[11:23] {Threei} CHART WISE, JUST RIGHT
[11:23] {Threei} oops, sorry caps
[11:24] {Threei} stop to under .10 now
[11:32] {Roman} 21 out 1/2 NCOC +.40
[11:34] {Threei} wtg Roman
[11:34] {Threei} killing'em today
[11:34] {Roman} 21 MPET decent swinger
[11:34] {Threei} (again)
[11:34] {Threei} here is your spike kaz
[11:35] {magoo} pretty good reversal here
[11:35] {magoo} markets
[11:36] {Threei} ABAT is trying again
[11:36] {magoo} i exited .39..is there a long trigger vad?
[11:36] {Threei} well
[11:37] {magoo} OY
[11:37] {Threei} 5.50 is day high, huge wall with huge offers
[11:37] {Threei} eating through it is a natural trigger
[11:37] {Threei} just risky as hell
[11:37] {Threei} but all big runners are
[11:37] {Roman} 21 in MPET swing
[11:41] {esemde} i'm outta here...just kind of waited for something to happen with ESLR but.....nawwwwww!!! oh well next time
[11:41] {Chaeron} bye ese
[11:41] {Threei} take care ese
[11:41] {esemde} see ya CH
[11:41] {magoo} bye es
[11:41] {esemde} Vad
[11:41] {Threei} a lot of other fish in the barrel :)
[11:41] {esemde} and mags
[11:41] {Threei} aside of ESLR I mean
[11:42] {esemde} true......
06[11:42] * Chaeron slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:42] {magoo} i'm in the b arrel?
[11:42] {Threei} what was that for
06[11:42] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:42] {Threei} why do I put up with this abuse
[11:42] {Threei} where is abuse department
[11:42] {Chaeron} bt
[11:42] {Threei} ABAT did it
[11:43] {Chaeron} sorry... that was supposed to read abat.... while it was eating .50
[11:44] {Threei} stop under .40?
[11:46] {Chaeron} sounds ok to me if you're asking my permision......
[11:46] {Threei} of course I do
[11:46] {Threei} abuse department is nowhere to be seen... I better keep quiet and obedient
[11:47] {hawkfan4} bexp .20, eslr .06, stop under 10, FSLR recovering
[11:47] {Chaeron} I think that same large offer at .50 just moved it to .60 and got out of the way earlier
[11:47] {Threei} nope
[11:47] {Threei} it was taken out fair and sqaure
[11:47] {Chaeron} ok good... was looking
[11:48] {Threei} CSIQ can be one more to list of candidates hawk
[11:48] {Threei} little cup and handle break at 49
[11:49] {Threei} SPWR
[11:49] {Threei} TICKING HIGHER ON CHATTER CIRCULATING ABOUT POSSIBLE LARGE CONTRACT WIN IN WESTERN CHINA
[11:49] {hawkfan4} nice
[11:49] {magoo} thatswhat im stalking ..CSIQ
[11:49] {magoo} just nasty air pockets
[11:51] {magoo} in 49
[11:51] {magoo} just now
[11:51] {magoo} half lot
[11:51] {magoo} stop is crazy..has to be like .59
[11:52] {magoo} aapl going green..RISKY
[11:52] {Chaeron} nice grab CSIQ mags
[11:53] {Chaeron} I missed it but good for you bud
[11:53] {magoo} watched it for like an hour
[11:53] {GeoArb} off to work.... see you all tomorrow
[11:53] {Chaeron} bye geo
[11:53] {magoo} bye geo
[11:53] {Threei} take care geo
[11:55] {magoo} magoo kicking csiq..don't air pocket u b@stard
[11:55] {Threei} OK... what happened to market?
[11:55] {kazaam} what a reversal, market hits 1336 on the S&P and bam right back to open
[11:55] {hawkfan4} no news
[11:56] {Threei} none here either
[11:56] {Chaeron} no news is good news... means noone screwed anything up
[11:57] {magoo} this is the norm vad.....abnormally volatile is normal
[12:00] {magoo} vad..lil help with CSIQ boss
[12:03] {Threei} almost hurt my foot trying to kick it
[12:03] {magoo} yeah.skerrin me
[12:03] {Threei} why do you sit on it that long? it went up nicely, we are deep in lunch period
[12:04] {magoo} greed
[12:04] {Threei} don't be greedy
[12:07] {magoo} yeah..forgot it is scalpers friday
[12:08] {magoo} out DUMMY - .50
[12:08] {magoo} had a qurter
[12:14] {kazaam} vad, how do you filter through all the trade ideas alerts, there a so many. Are you just clicking one update after another until something comes up or are you waiting for something to popup twice or 3 times?
[12:15] {Threei} well, first of all I do not watch all windows all the time
[12:15] {Threei} they are interesting in one type of market, less interesting in other
[12:15] {Threei} then, I pay more attention to more recognizable names
[12:16] {Threei} they are likely to attract more attention and players
[12:16] {Threei} I mean when CSIQ pops up on scanner, everyone is on alert... when NeverHeardOff does, not many do
[12:17] {Threei} and of course persistent blinking of the same name, especially on several screens is a good way to filter them
[12:17] {Threei} intraday JBE, two days break, 53 week highs - would youi ignore the stock that pops up on all three?
[12:18] {Threei} be back in 5
[12:18] {cosmo} ABAT 5.59 so far
[12:21] {cosmo} testing
[12:26] {Threei} so far so good ABAT
[12:26] {cosmo} lunch-time forces of 'greed' vs 'good'
[12:26] {cosmo} greed wins again it seems
[12:27] {cosmo} which is good
[12:27] {Threei} solidly over 1:1 and seems to continue
[12:27] {kazaam} what was the entry on ABAT?
[12:27] {magoo} original was 5
[12:28] {magoo} secondtry was .50..i believe
[12:28] {Threei} yes
[12:35] {magoo} there goes CSIQ
[12:36] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes Magoo, i was drawing a sym triangle and bam it broke out. SPWR seems to be consolidating
[12:37] {magoo} its purely a momemtum play imho
[12:43] {_Lisa_Jay} Us energy secretary on Bloomberg news in 15 min. will talk about off shore drilling policy.
[12:47] {Chaeron} Drill now... build refineries and nuke plants now... tell him I said it's ok
[12:47] {_Lisa_Jay} :-)
[13:01] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE: NOT EXPECTING ANNOUNCEMENTS ON INCREASED OIL SUPPLIES FROM THIS WEEKEND'S SAUDI CONFERENCE
[13:21] {peterg} ok-now looking at 12 windows, or do I need a larger screen? with Vad's intelliscan configuraton
[13:22] {Threei} 12? I counted 14
[13:23] {peterg} some must be hidden behind others. need bigger screen, i think'
[13:23] {Chaeron} 65"
[13:23] {peterg} Sounds right
[13:32] {kazaam} i thought there were intelliscan windows?
[13:32] {kazaam} i thought there were four
[13:33] {kazaam} 14!?
[13:33] {Threei} 4 are just a few standard configurations
[13:33] {Threei} there are a lot more of pre-configured ones,
[13:33] {Threei} and there is endless possibilites for you to configure more
[13:33] {Threei} download my layout, you'll get my 14
[13:34] {Threei} look in Configuration, you'll see a lot more
[13:34] {Threei} start configuring them, you'll be amazed by how powerful this tool is
[13:36] {kazaam} i dont doubt the power, I doubt how much power i can handle
[13:37] {peterg} yes; each new tool has to be digested...burp
[13:37] {Threei} well... you have the power to limit by clicking X button in the right top corner of any of those windows :)
[13:37] {Threei} lol peter
[13:37] {Threei} just don't chew on your monitors... you have your keyboard for that
[13:38] {peterg} I'm caught betweem quest for knowledge and love of ignorance
[13:38] {Threei} I am not
[13:38] {Threei} my choice is made long ago
[13:38] {Threei} ignorance is bliss
[13:38] {peterg} there it is!
[13:38] {Threei} frikin oil
[13:38] {Threei} what's up again
[13:39] {hawkfan4} no news here, unreal, +1.90
06[13:50] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[13:51] {Chaeron} ooops... missed... sorry
06[13:51] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[13:51] {Chaeron} tere
[13:51] {Chaeron} there
[13:51] {magoo} lol
[13:52] {laserdave1} thaks
06[13:57] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[13:57] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[13:57] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[13:57] {Chaeron} there... just like in the Trhee Stooges
06[13:59] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[13:59] * laserdave1 slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
06[14:00] * laserdave1 slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[14:00] {laserdave1} sometimes you just gotta share the love
[14:01] {Threei} we are generous this way
[14:06] {_Lisa_Jay} Vad, any tips for me ...having trouble holding stop, kill trade before it gets hit. Also, take very tiny profits. Do not wait for 1:1 or 1:2. Example UNP - 75.08 long stop at 74.80. Took this for 6c profit!
[14:07] {Threei} that's pure psychological issue
[14:07] {Threei} trading on noise instead of valid signals
[14:07] {Threei} both TTR and MPP have parts devoted to that, and MPP has very pracctical solutions
[14:07] {Threei} it's kind of hard to retype it all
[14:08] {_Lisa_Jay} Ok. Will look forward to it. Thank you :-)
[14:08] {Threei} look in MPP for chapter on psuchology,
[14:09] {Threei} it has two methods for resolving this kind of things,
[14:09] {Threei} also, there are mantras
[14:09] {Threei} I don't remember they are in TTR or online course or both
[14:09] {Threei} my memory is faling {G}
[14:10] {_Lisa_Jay} Mantras?
[14:10] {Threei} or I wrote too much stuff and start forgetting what is where
[14:10] {_Lisa_Jay} Yoga?
[14:10] {Chaeron} Magoo... RIMM and AAPL?
[14:10] {Threei} well, idea is the same,
[14:10] {Threei} kind of texts that modify your behavior
[14:11] {magoo} watching chaer....2;30 ish is the time the direction usually resolves
[14:11] {Chaeron} thx
[14:12] {magoo} could tank if IF mkt does...or rebound..we'll see
[14:12] {_Lisa_Jay} Oh. Will read the book and on-line course. Sounds like it will really help me.
[14:16] {Threei} I am sure
[14:16] {Threei} if not, slap me with not one but two trouts
[14:17] {_Lisa_Jay} :-)
[14:17] {Threei} and since you mentioned it... yogas was a big thing of my youth... :)
06[14:20] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[14:20] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[14:20] {magoo} just like that
06[14:20] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[14:20] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[14:20] {laserdave1} thanks for showing me the way
[14:20] {Threei} abuse I take
[14:21] {_Lisa_Jay} CSIQ back near 50.
[14:21] {magoo} vad, she meant a relaxing technique...not a food product {thats yogurt lol}
[14:21] {Threei} lol
[14:21] {_Lisa_Jay} :-)
[14:22] {Threei} you reminded me a (admittedly not funny) joke of transitional period when Soviet Union already collapsed but market economy hans't launched yet
[14:22] {Threei} new unfamiliar food products started appearing on shelves
[14:23] {cosmo} spam?
[14:23] {Threei} guy with street-person look, unshaved and coarse, comes to the store
[14:23] {Threei} looks at the shelf
[14:24] {Threei} asks salesperson: what it this thing, in nice plastic container, colorful, labeled in foreign letters?
[14:24] {Threei} salesperson: it's Yougurt
[14:24] {Threei} Guy, trying new word, rolling it off the tongue, in dreamy voice: Yoooguuurrt...
[14:25] {magoo} Chaer, see that 2:30 nasty move?
[14:25] {Threei} continuing in normal voice: OK, gimme a bottle of vodka
[14:25] {_Lisa_Jay} Lol.
[14:25] {Chaeron} yeah..... I was going to msg, but didn't want to blow Vad's Russian joke
[14:25] {Threei} thank you lisa... you are the only one who laughs at my jokes
[14:26] {Threei} the rest roll their eyes
[14:26] {_Lisa_Jay} Still new to me. Your archived chat is fun to read.
[14:28] {magoo} oh oh...u mean room chat?
[14:28] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes.
[14:28] {Chaeron} we're dead.......
[14:29] {magoo} OY
[14:35] {magoo} long rimm here
[14:36] {magoo} stop under 143
[14:36] {magoo} shit partial
[14:36] {magoo} @ .28
[14:37] {Threei} frikin IVAN
[14:37] {magoo} out .54 +.28
[14:37] {Chaeron} I missed magoo totally...
[14:37] {magoo} fast
[14:38] {magoo} .26
[14:38] {Chaeron} yep
[14:40] {magoo} long aapl .94
[14:41] {magoo} out here .20
[14:41] {magoo} + .26
[14:41] {magoo} oops.21
[14:41] {magoo} =.27
[14:41] {magoo} :)
[14:41] {Threei} gosh, buy a calculator
[14:41] {Threei} with your AAPL profit
[14:42] {magoo} are u saying it is measly?
[14:42] {magoo} i ytake 5 fifty bux and i have 200 bux
[14:42] {Threei} no, I am saying spend a bit to compute those profits right and not make us think {K}
[14:42] {Threei} we hate thinking
[14:42] {Threei} causes severe headaches
[14:43] {magoo} [14:44] {magoo} i ytake 5 fifty bux and i have 200 bux
[14:43] {magoo} [14:44] {Threei} no,
[14:43] {magoo} um, i mean 250 bux LOL
[14:43] {Threei} rofl
[14:43] {Threei} proof of concept
[14:51] {Threei} SOL
[14:52] {Threei} probably worth a try on pullback to 21
[14:52] {Threei} half lot
[14:52] {Threei} in .02
[14:53] {Threei} stop under .90
[14:55] {Threei} go away ARCA
[14:56] {Threei} no worky
[14:57] {magoo} l aapl
[15:17] {Threei} how about that CSIQ
[15:19] {hawkfan4} very nice move, solars running nicely
[15:19] {cosmo} the days are long
[15:19] {Threei} LOL
[15:20] {Threei} ugh SOL
[15:20] {Threei} shakeout
[15:20] {hawkfan4} in .04 :)
[15:20] {dptl} why tan is negative then?
[15:21] {Chaeron} I just took +.46 from SOL in .02 out .48
[15:21] {Chaeron} many thanks 3i
06[15:21] * Threei slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[15:21] {Threei} welcome
[15:21] {Chaeron} what... too early
[15:21] {Chaeron} ?
[15:21] {Threei} no
[15:22] {dptl} isn't tan solar etf?
[15:22] {Chaeron} yep
[15:23] {hawkfan4} out SOL + 61, thx vad
[15:24] {hawkfan4} probably because FSLR is still down 6 pts dp
[15:25] {dptl} oh...isee ty hawk
[15:33] {magoo} are we in anything now? had someone in office for last half hour
[15:34] {hawkfan4} no sir
[15:34] {Threei} nope... some of us, especially shameless, grabbed indecent profits on SOL
[15:35] {Threei} I guess I was too careful on SATC
[15:35] {Threei} was worth entry at 3
[15:36] {magoo} ok..i got distracrted there
[15:40] {Threei} if CSIQ jumps again off 51, so should SOL off 21.50
[15:43] {magoo} .
[15:44] {hawkfan4} 1/2 out BEXP +.85
[15:44] {Threei} smaeless
[15:44] {Threei} shameless
[15:45] {magoo} man hawk..u crushing today
[15:45] {hawkfan4} out the rest. best day of the year for me
[15:45] {Threei} I am torn between congratulations and trouting
[15:45] {Threei} ah what the heck why not do both
[15:45] {hawkfan4} how about a congratulatory trout?
[15:45] {Threei} congratulations hawk
06[15:45] * Threei slaps hawkfan4 around a bit with a large trout
[15:46] {hawkfan4} thank you :)
[15:46] {Threei} you are very welcome :)
06[15:46] * magoo slaps hawkfan4 around a bit with a large trout
[15:46] {hawkfan4} lol
[15:46] {Threei} can't tell you how satisfying it is to see what huge progress you've made in a few month
[15:47] {hawkfan4} you're not kidding, a huge turnaround
[15:48] {magoo} sigh
[15:48] {hawkfan4} i spent the first 3 months of the year getting clobbered, then did a mentoring session with Vad and it's been steady progress ever since
[15:48] {Threei} in amazing way, a bit of soul-searching took mistery out of the markets
[15:49] {Threei} secret to good trading lies in intense navel-gazing
[15:49] {Threei} there... I came up with some used call vadisms:
[15:50] {Threei} know thyself, and you will know the markets
[15:51] {cosmo} market shearching took mistery out of the soul
[15:51] {cosmo} hmmm
[15:51] {Threei} lol
[15:51] {Threei} that was cosmism
[15:53] {magoo} sol worked but didn't want iot this close to bell
[15:53] {Threei} can't blame you
[15:53] {Threei} we had a beautiful day
[15:53] {Threei} why risk it
[15:53] {Threei} on last minutes
[15:53] {Chaeron} bid on ABAT
[15:53] {magoo} bingo
[15:53] {dptl} have a good evening all and ty :)
[15:53] {Threei} I've made one more observation about latest trading
[15:53] {_Lisa_Jay} First day here and learnt - 1. Keep stop even if it gets hit - hey you never know.
[15:54] {Threei} but too lazy now to share it
[15:54] {Threei} will do tomorrow
[15:54] {Chaeron} you won't be lazy tomorrow?
[15:54] {cosmo} here's one ... sometimes this keyboard here gets kinda like a ouija board
[15:54] {Threei} oh I will
[15:54] {Threei} I always am
[15:54] {Threei} but I have more energy in first half of the day to fight it odff
[15:54] {Threei} take care dp
[15:55] {Threei} stops are to be kept religiously lisa... not for discussion, not for altering
[15:55] {Threei} just keep them
[15:55] {Threei} otherwise you don't stand a chance
[15:55] {Threei} you may get lucky 9 times
[15:55] {Threei} 10th you won't and the size of the loss on that single one will take all the profits of those 9 and a lot more
[15:56] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes.
[15:56] {Threei} remember classic stages of going through bad news?
[15:56] {Threei} denial
[15:56] {Threei} anger
[15:56] {Threei} bargaining
[15:56] {Threei} what's next
[15:56] {Threei} depression
[15:56] {Threei} acceptance
[15:57] {Threei} that's exactly what will happen as you hold losing position
[15:57] {Threei} in an amazingly consistent way, acceptance and taking a loss much bigger than you could ever imagine wsill occur at the exact bottom
[15:58] {magoo} thats so so true
[15:58] {_Lisa_Jay} I have opposite problem. i don't let setup work. i cut it too quick.
[15:58] {cosmo} born to suffer...
[15:58] {Threei} on denial stage you will be telling yourself it's going to turn around any minute now
[15:58] {Threei} then you get angry at your self or at market
[15:59] {Threei} then you ask p[owers that be to grant you your wish this one time, promising that you'
[15:59] {Threei} ll bnever blow a stop again
[15:59] {Chaeron} and become a priest
[15:59] {Threei} then you'll become indifferent, "whatever happens, I don't care:"
[15:59] {Threei} then you finally accept it and take loss
[16:00] {Threei} no trader in the world haven't lived through it
[16:00] {cosmo} you sure the meds didn't do that?
[16:00] {_Lisa_Jay} Me?
[16:00] {Threei} only red pill
[16:00] {cosmo} k then
[16:00] {Threei} talking about pattern in general, lisa
[16:01] {Threei} no one in particular
[16:01] {Threei} OK guys, thank you all
[16:01] {Threei} have a great evening, see you all tomorrow
[16:01] {Chaeron} thanks again Vad... see you tomorrow
[16:01] {Threei} at least those who elect to see me
[16:01] {_Lisa_Jay} Thank you so much Vad.
[16:01] {hawkfan4} thx vad, all
[16:01] {Threei} and since it's not necessary pretty, can't blame those who decides otherwise
[16:02] {Threei} oh and magoo
06[16:02] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
06[16:02] * Chaeron slaps _Lisa_Jay around a bit with a large trout
[16:02] {_Lisa_Jay} :-) Thanks Chaeron.
[16:02] {Chaeron} that's just to officially welcome you to the room :)
[16:03] {Threei} lol
[16:03] {Threei} where is Geo
[16:03] {Threei} somehow I feel like slapping him as well
[16:03] {Chaeron} you're one of us now... don't want you to feel like you're not ohana
[16:03] {magoo} TY vad{for ther trout}
[16:03] {Threei} welcome... I felt I had to oblige
[08:05] {Threei} [FDX] Fedex Corp Reports Q4 $1.45 (ex items) v $1.47e, R $9.87B v $9.6Be
[08:05] {Threei} - Guides Q1 EPS $0.80-1.00 v $1.27e.
[08:05] {Threei} - Guides FY09 EPS $4.75-$5.25 v $5.92e
[08:05] {Threei} - Fedex states "This guidance incorporates the current high fuel prices and the related impact on fuel surcharges, which are reducing demand for FedEx services and impacting yield across the company's transportation segments. This outlook assumes no additional increases to current fuel prices and no further weakening in the economy."
[08:06] {_Lisa_Jay} Good morning Vad.
[08:13] {Threei} Good morning :)
[08:15] {Threei} Ordinary Germans have begun to reject euro bank notes with serial numbers from Italy, Spain, Greece and Portugal, raising concerns that public support for monetary union may be waning in the eurozone's anchor country
[08:15] {Threei} jeez, is world in troubles or what
[08:23] {_Lisa_Jay} It would seem so with futures down today :-)
[08:52] {Threei} PRESIDENT BUSH TO MAKE OIL DRILLING STATEMENT AT 10:35AM ET - WHITE HOUSE STATEMENT
[08:59] {fernp} Good morning
[09:00] {dptl} good morning all
[09:00] {Threei} fern, dp :)
[09:03] {GeoArb} .
[09:03] {Threei} fine point
[09:03] {GeoArb} gm
[09:03] {Threei} geo :)
[09:03] {GeoArb} no replay today for me?
[09:04] {Threei} chat host has difficulties
[09:04] {GeoArb} ok
[09:04] {Threei} not sure it's plausible to waste time trying to fix, we are in a process of searching for new one
[09:05] {GeoArb} ok
[09:12] {pita} gm all
[09:12] {Threei} pita :)
[09:15] {cosmo} BEXP
[09:17] {cosmo} Brigham Exploration announces Southern Louisiana discoveryBriefing.com(Wed 6:06am)
[09:22] {esemde} morning....
[09:22] {Threei} ese :)
[09:26] {cosmo} BEXP pre mkt high = 18.55 fwiw
[09:26] {cosmo} testing
[09:31] {Threei} BEXP cross back over 18 worth a try if holding 17.80
[09:31] {cosmo} hmmm
[09:32] {Threei} .50 nearest support now
[09:32] {cosmo} speech in one hour...
[09:32] {cosmo} fwiw
[09:33] {Raven} 3 what will you speak about, cosmo ?
[09:33] {magoo} morning
[09:33] {Threei} magoo :)
[09:33] {Raven} 3 m a g o o
[09:33] {cosmo} "there are no coincidences"
[09:34] {cosmo} i think
[09:34] {Raven} 3 I will tune in
[09:36] {Threei} SOLF 21 break long if holding above 20.80
[09:37] {Threei} don't chase
[09:37] {Threei} broke too fast
[09:37] {Threei} if pullas back into 21, worth retry
[09:37] {Threei} gave second chance, stop under 20.80
[09:39] {Threei} 1:1, half out
[09:40] {Threei} 1:2, out in full
[09:42] {hawkfan4} beauty vad, +.38 thx
[09:42] {Threei} :)
[09:43] {Threei} ABAT
[09:43] {Threei} 5 long trigger
[09:43] {Threei} if holding above 4.75
[09:47] {Threei} ugh
[09:48] {Threei} missed ARBA 16 break
[09:48] {Threei} if pulls back closer to 16 will be interested
[09:49] {judijim} good morning everyone
[09:49] {Threei} jj :)
[09:49] {Threei} ROYL, half lot .25 long
[09:49] {Threei} very risky one
[09:49] {magoo} ever have tis issue vad, i try to add symbol it shows in the white highlite as i type in but won't stay or load
[09:49] {Threei} stop under 9
[09:50] {Threei} let's better keep stop under 9.10
[09:50] {Threei} better get shaken out than let it go too far against us
[09:51] {fernp} out ARRS +.11 llitle scalp . Thanks for SOLF Vad
[09:51] {Threei} fern :)
[09:51] {Threei} no mags, not sure what the cause
[09:51] {magoo} i rebooted to correct it
[09:51] {magoo} ty
[09:53] {Threei} stopped ROYL
[09:53] {Threei} don't want to get stuck with it, too volatile
[09:55] {Threei} watching CSIQ
[09:55] {esemde} am gonna bstop ESLR at 10.41 again....have done well with this since last week
[09:55] {Threei} CSIQ pullback buy
[09:55] {Threei} very hard to nail exact entry
[09:57] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE SAYS THAT LIFTING OFFSHORE DRILLING BAN WOULD HAVE AN EFFECTR ON OIL PRICE, BUT WOULD BE DIFFUCALT TO QUANTIFY
[09:58] {Threei} good spot to try CSIQ
[09:58] {Threei} stop under .50
[09:58] {Threei} don't chase
[09:58] {Threei} either you got it around .80 or let it go
[10:00] {Threei} ROYL fooled me eh?
[10:03] {Threei} OMNI
[10:04] {Threei} .70 break long, ROYL sympathy
[10:04] {Threei} low volume
[10:04] {Threei} stop under .50
[10:04] {Roman} 21 long COIN
[10:04] {Roman} 21 7.00 small
[10:05] {Roman} 21 long NCOC 9.01 small
[10:05] {Threei} ARBA never gave a chance really?
[10:09] {_Lisa_Jay} Pnra took it for a .30 scalp...still going :-(
[10:09] {Roman} 21 out 1/2 COIN +.50
[10:09] {Threei} nice COIN
[10:09] {Threei} Lisa... profit is profit
[10:09] {Threei} volatile one, could turn on you just as well
[10:10] {Roman} 21 out remaining COIN +.68
[10:10] {magoo} beauty roman
[10:11] {Roman} 21 ty, u took some?
[10:12] {kazaam} what do u think of APWR?
[10:12] {magoo} i missed
[10:12] {Threei} CSIQ new highs
[10:12] {Threei} that 50 looks to be reached
[10:13] {_Lisa_Jay} Do you have limit orders on omni? Moved 10c very fast.
[10:13] {Threei} I hate the spread kaz
[10:13] {Roman} 21 SEED
[10:13] {Roman} 21 long off 6
[10:13] {Threei} had .72 limit Lisa, hit it as .70 started scroling fast and got .70
[10:13] {Roman} 21 off 7.00 SEED
[10:14] {_Lisa_Jay} Thank you Vad.
[10:15] {Chaeron} Good morning all
[10:15] {Threei} chaeron :)
[10:15] {Chaeron} no replay... may I ask what we're playing/stalking?
[10:15] {hawkfan4} csiq sweet vad, 1/2 out +.76
[10:16] {Threei} hawk :)
[10:16] {Threei} in OMNI chaeron
[10:16] {Threei} but don't chase
[10:16] {Threei} entry 12 cents ago
[10:16] {Chaeron} nice
[10:16] {cosmo} ABAT breaks...
[10:16] {Threei} almost
[10:16] {Threei} trigger is intact
[10:16] {Threei} held .75
[10:17] {cosmo} soon
[10:17] {Threei} there
[10:17] {Threei} has real runner potential
[10:17] {magoo} which?ABAT?
[10:17] {Threei} yes
[10:17] {cosmo} just like a bunny
[10:18] {Roman} 21 VNDA
[10:18] {Roman} 21 in small
[10:18] {Roman} 21 5.54 stop 5.25
[10:18] {Roman} 21 5.35
[10:18] {Threei} OMNI over 1:1
[10:18] {Threei} half out
[10:18] {Threei} scalpers know what to do
[10:19] {Threei} what was ABAT news?
[10:19] {Threei} my news supply doesn't even has symbol
[10:20] {Threei} ABAT over 1:1
[10:21] {kazaam} do you generally prefer long setups? curious since market opens down but only long setups are taken
[10:21] {Threei} half out +.25, stop to 4.89, letting other half run
[10:22] {Threei} I don't really care kaz
[10:22] {Threei} just didn't see any interesting short
[10:22] {cosmo} ABAT no news it seems
[10:23] {Threei} market is not homogeneous
[10:23] {Threei} it's down overall but there are sectors and stocks that move up
[10:23] {magoo} abat beauty spot vad
[10:23] {Threei} cosmo pounded the table on it yesterday
[10:24] {cosmo} that explains my sore head
[10:24] {Threei} why use your forehead for it
[10:24] {Threei} use someone's
[10:25] {cosmo} its... a passion, i guess
[10:25] {Threei} ah
[10:26] {Threei} wow VNDA
[10:26] {Threei} Roman is hot today
[10:26] {Threei} (again)
[10:27] {_Lisa_Jay} For stops do you guys us hard stops or just finger on mouse? Thanks.
[10:27] {Threei} MNST
[10:27] {Threei} looks short
[10:27] {Threei} half lot, right here
[10:27] {Threei} stop .21
[10:28] {Threei} I prefer mental stops Lisa, using hard ones only if I need to leave computer
[10:28] {hawkfan4} oil #'s in a few minutes
[10:28] {kazaam} what if you are in 2-3 plays at the same time?
[10:28] {Threei} I would never take a few of fast ones
[10:29] {Threei} and if they are slow, I can watch them with no problem
[10:29] {Threei} I mean... to play CSIQ, RIMM and AAPL at he same time, one should be either world champion in videogames or plainly insane
[10:30] {dptl} where did you get mnst Vad?....i am so slow today
[10:30] {Threei} from scanner? :)
[10:30] {dptl} lol at what price
[10:30] {Threei} oh, sorry
[10:30] {Threei} didn't mean to be smart a$$
[10:30] {Threei} 21.07
[10:31] {dptl} ty :)
[10:32] {_Lisa_Jay} [10:09] {Threei} Lisa... profit is profit
[10:32] {_Lisa_Jay} [10:09] {Threei} volatile one, could turn on you just as well
[10:32] {Threei} that's my story and I stick to it
[10:33] {_Lisa_Jay} PNRA tanked :-)
[10:33] {Threei} good... less regret :)
[10:34] {Threei} but the point is... no need for negative emotions on a winning play
[10:34] {Threei} you will have enough losing ones for that, why add :)
[10:34] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes. Especially if i took another .20 scalp on it.
[10:35] {Threei} *DOE CRUDE: -1.24M V -1.2ME
[10:35] {Threei} GASOLINE: -1.18M V +750KE; DISTILLATES: +2.62M V +1.8ME; UTILIZATION: 89.3% V 89.1%E
[10:35] {Threei} *API Inventory:
[10:35] {Threei} - Crude Inventories: -3.1M
[10:35] {Threei} - Gasoline: -2.4M
[10:35] {Threei} - Distillate: +1.4M
[10:35] {hawkfan4} Bush on tv, actually mentioned working on supporting "advanced batteries" . A presidential pump
[10:37] {cosmo} for batteries? ... weird...
[10:38] {hawkfan4} he's talking about lifting the ban on offshore oil..just thot it was funny, ABAT=advanced battery
[10:40] {cosmo} a battery tech breakthru would solve many problems
[10:41] {Threei} you see any news on it hawk?
[10:41] {Threei} or it's just a discovered play?
[10:42] {hawkfan4} nope, none since may
[10:42] {Threei} hmmm
[10:42] {Threei} PRESIDENT BUSH: REITERATES STANCE THAT RISING ENERGY PRICES ARE DUE TO HIGHER OIL PRICES
[10:42] {Threei} really?... no, really?
[10:44] {cosmo} price rising = enron x 1000?
[10:44] {cosmo} 10,000?
[10:46] {Threei} fiiinally MNST
[10:46] {dptl} out +.14 mnst ty (got 21.14 on pull back)
[10:46] {Threei} covered too
[10:46] {_Lisa_Jay} MNST....price retraced back up till .20 (stop at .21) wow. Now it is back down. Amazing or black magic?
[10:46] {Threei} both
[10:47] {Threei} kaz... there you go, short by your request :)
[10:47] {dptl} :)
[10:47] {kazaam} thank god, i dont have to take my meds now
[10:47] {kazaam} was getting twitchy
06[10:47] * Threei is thinking of offering new service: Call per Demand
[10:48] {dptl} lol
[10:48] {kazaam} heh
[10:48] {Threei} for a small administrative fee of just $100 per call you will be able to order your own call
[10:52] {Roman} 21 BDCO
[10:57] {dptl} lpx?
[10:59] {Threei} hard to tell... stalled, no momentum
[10:59] {dptl} pk ty
[10:59] {dptl} ok
[11:04] {hawkfan4} bexp close to 17 vad?, stop under .90?
[11:05] {Threei} if gets there... just not on price alone, watch for tide to turn
[11:05] {Threei} pure risk based setup
[11:05] {hawkfan4} ok, thanks
[11:06] {Threei} SATC bothers me... daily is classic pullback into support
[11:07] {Threei} very tempting... I just hate that it's so slow, not likely to be resolved as a day trade
[11:07] {Threei} and swing trade in this climate is not very sttractive
[11:08] {magoo} agree..
[11:12] {peterg} How do you use Intelliscan? I have Euphoria, Capitulation, JBE & DBI Seems good place to start. Recommendations?
[11:14] {Threei} you can download my layout
[11:14] {GeoArb} now thats a Q i recognize
[11:14] {Threei} to see all windows that I see
[11:14] {GeoArb} be carefull with that layout though peter.... :)
[11:14] {Threei} lol
[11:14] {peterg} seemed like information overload when I did it.
[11:15] {Threei} just eliminate those windows that are too much :)
[11:15] {GeoArb} it sent me into coma
[11:15] {peterg} tks
[11:15] {Threei} why do you think I never come out of it
[11:15] {peterg} I see....
[11:15] {Threei} for JBE and capitulation better use settings from my layout
[11:15] {Threei} they are tuned up better than standard
[11:16] {Threei} also, when you go to configuration, you can see a lot more of built-in strategies
[11:17] {Threei} many are fairly interesting
[11:18] {peterg} ok thanks back in hr-I'll try again and chance coma.
[11:18] {Roman} 21 BDCO
[11:18] {Roman} 21 sorry wrong window
[11:19] {GeoArb} is that for the superlicious trader window?
[11:19] {Roman} 21 :)
[11:20] {kazaam} NTRS, what would be the best way to take profit? exit half at 1:1 and then move stop to 71.00?
[11:20] {Threei} what was the entry?
[11:21] {kazaam} 70.85
[11:21] {Threei} I'd dump half here,
[11:21] {Threei} trailed stop to just under 71
[11:22] {Threei} as soon as it reaches high again, stop to under 71.10
[11:22] {Threei} which proved to be support twice already
[11:22] {Threei} and look for the next spike to exit in full
[11:23] {kazaam} on entry i had my stop at 70.40, is that reasonable or could have have gone tighter?
[11:23] {Threei} CHART WISE, JUST RIGHT
[11:23] {Threei} oops, sorry caps
[11:24] {Threei} stop to under .10 now
[11:32] {Roman} 21 out 1/2 NCOC +.40
[11:34] {Threei} wtg Roman
[11:34] {Threei} killing'em today
[11:34] {Roman} 21 MPET decent swinger
[11:34] {Threei} (again)
[11:34] {Threei} here is your spike kaz
[11:35] {magoo} pretty good reversal here
[11:35] {magoo} markets
[11:36] {Threei} ABAT is trying again
[11:36] {magoo} i exited .39..is there a long trigger vad?
[11:36] {Threei} well
[11:37] {magoo} OY
[11:37] {Threei} 5.50 is day high, huge wall with huge offers
[11:37] {Threei} eating through it is a natural trigger
[11:37] {Threei} just risky as hell
[11:37] {Threei} but all big runners are
[11:37] {Roman} 21 in MPET swing
[11:41] {esemde} i'm outta here...just kind of waited for something to happen with ESLR but.....nawwwwww!!! oh well next time
[11:41] {Chaeron} bye ese
[11:41] {Threei} take care ese
[11:41] {esemde} see ya CH
[11:41] {magoo} bye es
[11:41] {esemde} Vad
[11:41] {Threei} a lot of other fish in the barrel :)
[11:41] {esemde} and mags
[11:41] {Threei} aside of ESLR I mean
[11:42] {esemde} true......
06[11:42] * Chaeron slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:42] {magoo} i'm in the b arrel?
[11:42] {Threei} what was that for
06[11:42] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:42] {Threei} why do I put up with this abuse
[11:42] {Threei} where is abuse department
[11:42] {Chaeron} bt
[11:42] {Threei} ABAT did it
[11:43] {Chaeron} sorry... that was supposed to read abat.... while it was eating .50
[11:44] {Threei} stop under .40?
[11:46] {Chaeron} sounds ok to me if you're asking my permision......
[11:46] {Threei} of course I do
[11:46] {Threei} abuse department is nowhere to be seen... I better keep quiet and obedient
[11:47] {hawkfan4} bexp .20, eslr .06, stop under 10, FSLR recovering
[11:47] {Chaeron} I think that same large offer at .50 just moved it to .60 and got out of the way earlier
[11:47] {Threei} nope
[11:47] {Threei} it was taken out fair and sqaure
[11:47] {Chaeron} ok good... was looking
[11:48] {Threei} CSIQ can be one more to list of candidates hawk
[11:48] {Threei} little cup and handle break at 49
[11:49] {Threei} SPWR
[11:49] {Threei} TICKING HIGHER ON CHATTER CIRCULATING ABOUT POSSIBLE LARGE CONTRACT WIN IN WESTERN CHINA
[11:49] {hawkfan4} nice
[11:49] {magoo} thatswhat im stalking ..CSIQ
[11:49] {magoo} just nasty air pockets
[11:51] {magoo} in 49
[11:51] {magoo} just now
[11:51] {magoo} half lot
[11:51] {magoo} stop is crazy..has to be like .59
[11:52] {magoo} aapl going green..RISKY
[11:52] {Chaeron} nice grab CSIQ mags
[11:53] {Chaeron} I missed it but good for you bud
[11:53] {magoo} watched it for like an hour
[11:53] {GeoArb} off to work.... see you all tomorrow
[11:53] {Chaeron} bye geo
[11:53] {magoo} bye geo
[11:53] {Threei} take care geo
[11:55] {magoo} magoo kicking csiq..don't air pocket u b@stard
[11:55] {Threei} OK... what happened to market?
[11:55] {kazaam} what a reversal, market hits 1336 on the S&P and bam right back to open
[11:55] {hawkfan4} no news
[11:56] {Threei} none here either
[11:56] {Chaeron} no news is good news... means noone screwed anything up
[11:57] {magoo} this is the norm vad.....abnormally volatile is normal
[12:00] {magoo} vad..lil help with CSIQ boss
[12:03] {Threei} almost hurt my foot trying to kick it
[12:03] {magoo} yeah.skerrin me
[12:03] {Threei} why do you sit on it that long? it went up nicely, we are deep in lunch period
[12:04] {magoo} greed
[12:04] {Threei} don't be greedy
[12:07] {magoo} yeah..forgot it is scalpers friday
[12:08] {magoo} out DUMMY - .50
[12:08] {magoo} had a qurter
[12:14] {kazaam} vad, how do you filter through all the trade ideas alerts, there a so many. Are you just clicking one update after another until something comes up or are you waiting for something to popup twice or 3 times?
[12:15] {Threei} well, first of all I do not watch all windows all the time
[12:15] {Threei} they are interesting in one type of market, less interesting in other
[12:15] {Threei} then, I pay more attention to more recognizable names
[12:16] {Threei} they are likely to attract more attention and players
[12:16] {Threei} I mean when CSIQ pops up on scanner, everyone is on alert... when NeverHeardOff does, not many do
[12:17] {Threei} and of course persistent blinking of the same name, especially on several screens is a good way to filter them
[12:17] {Threei} intraday JBE, two days break, 53 week highs - would youi ignore the stock that pops up on all three?
[12:18] {Threei} be back in 5
[12:18] {cosmo} ABAT 5.59 so far
[12:21] {cosmo} testing
[12:26] {Threei} so far so good ABAT
[12:26] {cosmo} lunch-time forces of 'greed' vs 'good'
[12:26] {cosmo} greed wins again it seems
[12:27] {cosmo} which is good
[12:27] {Threei} solidly over 1:1 and seems to continue
[12:27] {kazaam} what was the entry on ABAT?
[12:27] {magoo} original was 5
[12:28] {magoo} secondtry was .50..i believe
[12:28] {Threei} yes
[12:35] {magoo} there goes CSIQ
[12:36] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes Magoo, i was drawing a sym triangle and bam it broke out. SPWR seems to be consolidating
[12:37] {magoo} its purely a momemtum play imho
[12:43] {_Lisa_Jay} Us energy secretary on Bloomberg news in 15 min. will talk about off shore drilling policy.
[12:47] {Chaeron} Drill now... build refineries and nuke plants now... tell him I said it's ok
[12:47] {_Lisa_Jay} :-)
[13:01] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE: NOT EXPECTING ANNOUNCEMENTS ON INCREASED OIL SUPPLIES FROM THIS WEEKEND'S SAUDI CONFERENCE
[13:21] {peterg} ok-now looking at 12 windows, or do I need a larger screen? with Vad's intelliscan configuraton
[13:22] {Threei} 12? I counted 14
[13:23] {peterg} some must be hidden behind others. need bigger screen, i think'
[13:23] {Chaeron} 65"
[13:23] {peterg} Sounds right
[13:32] {kazaam} i thought there were intelliscan windows?
[13:32] {kazaam} i thought there were four
[13:33] {kazaam} 14!?
[13:33] {Threei} 4 are just a few standard configurations
[13:33] {Threei} there are a lot more of pre-configured ones,
[13:33] {Threei} and there is endless possibilites for you to configure more
[13:33] {Threei} download my layout, you'll get my 14
[13:34] {Threei} look in Configuration, you'll see a lot more
[13:34] {Threei} start configuring them, you'll be amazed by how powerful this tool is
[13:36] {kazaam} i dont doubt the power, I doubt how much power i can handle
[13:37] {peterg} yes; each new tool has to be digested...burp
[13:37] {Threei} well... you have the power to limit by clicking X button in the right top corner of any of those windows :)
[13:37] {Threei} lol peter
[13:37] {Threei} just don't chew on your monitors... you have your keyboard for that
[13:38] {peterg} I'm caught betweem quest for knowledge and love of ignorance
[13:38] {Threei} I am not
[13:38] {Threei} my choice is made long ago
[13:38] {Threei} ignorance is bliss
[13:38] {peterg} there it is!
[13:38] {Threei} frikin oil
[13:38] {Threei} what's up again
[13:39] {hawkfan4} no news here, unreal, +1.90
06[13:50] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[13:51] {Chaeron} ooops... missed... sorry
06[13:51] * Chaeron slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[13:51] {Chaeron} tere
[13:51] {Chaeron} there
[13:51] {magoo} lol
[13:52] {laserdave1} thaks
06[13:57] * Threei slaps laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
06[13:57] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[13:57] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[13:57] {Chaeron} there... just like in the Trhee Stooges
06[13:59] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[13:59] * laserdave1 slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
06[14:00] * laserdave1 slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[14:00] {laserdave1} sometimes you just gotta share the love
[14:01] {Threei} we are generous this way
[14:06] {_Lisa_Jay} Vad, any tips for me ...having trouble holding stop, kill trade before it gets hit. Also, take very tiny profits. Do not wait for 1:1 or 1:2. Example UNP - 75.08 long stop at 74.80. Took this for 6c profit!
[14:07] {Threei} that's pure psychological issue
[14:07] {Threei} trading on noise instead of valid signals
[14:07] {Threei} both TTR and MPP have parts devoted to that, and MPP has very pracctical solutions
[14:07] {Threei} it's kind of hard to retype it all
[14:08] {_Lisa_Jay} Ok. Will look forward to it. Thank you :-)
[14:08] {Threei} look in MPP for chapter on psuchology,
[14:09] {Threei} it has two methods for resolving this kind of things,
[14:09] {Threei} also, there are mantras
[14:09] {Threei} I don't remember they are in TTR or online course or both
[14:09] {Threei} my memory is faling {G}
[14:10] {_Lisa_Jay} Mantras?
[14:10] {Threei} or I wrote too much stuff and start forgetting what is where
[14:10] {_Lisa_Jay} Yoga?
[14:10] {Chaeron} Magoo... RIMM and AAPL?
[14:10] {Threei} well, idea is the same,
[14:10] {Threei} kind of texts that modify your behavior
[14:11] {magoo} watching chaer....2;30 ish is the time the direction usually resolves
[14:11] {Chaeron} thx
[14:12] {magoo} could tank if IF mkt does...or rebound..we'll see
[14:12] {_Lisa_Jay} Oh. Will read the book and on-line course. Sounds like it will really help me.
[14:16] {Threei} I am sure
[14:16] {Threei} if not, slap me with not one but two trouts
[14:17] {_Lisa_Jay} :-)
[14:17] {Threei} and since you mentioned it... yogas was a big thing of my youth... :)
06[14:20] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[14:20] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[14:20] {magoo} just like that
06[14:20] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
06[14:20] * laserdave1 slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[14:20] {laserdave1} thanks for showing me the way
[14:20] {Threei} abuse I take
[14:21] {_Lisa_Jay} CSIQ back near 50.
[14:21] {magoo} vad, she meant a relaxing technique...not a food product {thats yogurt lol}
[14:21] {Threei} lol
[14:21] {_Lisa_Jay} :-)
[14:22] {Threei} you reminded me a (admittedly not funny) joke of transitional period when Soviet Union already collapsed but market economy hans't launched yet
[14:22] {Threei} new unfamiliar food products started appearing on shelves
[14:23] {cosmo} spam?
[14:23] {Threei} guy with street-person look, unshaved and coarse, comes to the store
[14:23] {Threei} looks at the shelf
[14:24] {Threei} asks salesperson: what it this thing, in nice plastic container, colorful, labeled in foreign letters?
[14:24] {Threei} salesperson: it's Yougurt
[14:24] {Threei} Guy, trying new word, rolling it off the tongue, in dreamy voice: Yoooguuurrt...
[14:25] {magoo} Chaer, see that 2:30 nasty move?
[14:25] {Threei} continuing in normal voice: OK, gimme a bottle of vodka
[14:25] {_Lisa_Jay} Lol.
[14:25] {Chaeron} yeah..... I was going to msg, but didn't want to blow Vad's Russian joke
[14:25] {Threei} thank you lisa... you are the only one who laughs at my jokes
[14:26] {Threei} the rest roll their eyes
[14:26] {_Lisa_Jay} Still new to me. Your archived chat is fun to read.
[14:28] {magoo} oh oh...u mean room chat?
[14:28] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes.
[14:28] {Chaeron} we're dead.......
[14:29] {magoo} OY
[14:35] {magoo} long rimm here
[14:36] {magoo} stop under 143
[14:36] {magoo} shit partial
[14:36] {magoo} @ .28
[14:37] {Threei} frikin IVAN
[14:37] {magoo} out .54 +.28
[14:37] {Chaeron} I missed magoo totally...
[14:37] {magoo} fast
[14:38] {magoo} .26
[14:38] {Chaeron} yep
[14:40] {magoo} long aapl .94
[14:41] {magoo} out here .20
[14:41] {magoo} + .26
[14:41] {magoo} oops.21
[14:41] {magoo} =.27
[14:41] {magoo} :)
[14:41] {Threei} gosh, buy a calculator
[14:41] {Threei} with your AAPL profit
[14:42] {magoo} are u saying it is measly?
[14:42] {magoo} i ytake 5 fifty bux and i have 200 bux
[14:42] {Threei} no, I am saying spend a bit to compute those profits right and not make us think {K}
[14:42] {Threei} we hate thinking
[14:42] {Threei} causes severe headaches
[14:43] {magoo} [14:44] {magoo} i ytake 5 fifty bux and i have 200 bux
[14:43] {magoo} [14:44] {Threei} no,
[14:43] {magoo} um, i mean 250 bux LOL
[14:43] {Threei} rofl
[14:43] {Threei} proof of concept
[14:51] {Threei} SOL
[14:52] {Threei} probably worth a try on pullback to 21
[14:52] {Threei} half lot
[14:52] {Threei} in .02
[14:53] {Threei} stop under .90
[14:55] {Threei} go away ARCA
[14:56] {Threei} no worky
[14:57] {magoo} l aapl
[15:17] {Threei} how about that CSIQ
[15:19] {hawkfan4} very nice move, solars running nicely
[15:19] {cosmo} the days are long
[15:19] {Threei} LOL
[15:20] {Threei} ugh SOL
[15:20] {Threei} shakeout
[15:20] {hawkfan4} in .04 :)
[15:20] {dptl} why tan is negative then?
[15:21] {Chaeron} I just took +.46 from SOL in .02 out .48
[15:21] {Chaeron} many thanks 3i
06[15:21] * Threei slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[15:21] {Threei} welcome
[15:21] {Chaeron} what... too early
[15:21] {Chaeron} ?
[15:21] {Threei} no
[15:22] {dptl} isn't tan solar etf?
[15:22] {Chaeron} yep
[15:23] {hawkfan4} out SOL + 61, thx vad
[15:24] {hawkfan4} probably because FSLR is still down 6 pts dp
[15:25] {dptl} oh...isee ty hawk
[15:33] {magoo} are we in anything now? had someone in office for last half hour
[15:34] {hawkfan4} no sir
[15:34] {Threei} nope... some of us, especially shameless, grabbed indecent profits on SOL
[15:35] {Threei} I guess I was too careful on SATC
[15:35] {Threei} was worth entry at 3
[15:36] {magoo} ok..i got distracrted there
[15:40] {Threei} if CSIQ jumps again off 51, so should SOL off 21.50
[15:43] {magoo} .
[15:44] {hawkfan4} 1/2 out BEXP +.85
[15:44] {Threei} smaeless
[15:44] {Threei} shameless
[15:45] {magoo} man hawk..u crushing today
[15:45] {hawkfan4} out the rest. best day of the year for me
[15:45] {Threei} I am torn between congratulations and trouting
[15:45] {Threei} ah what the heck why not do both
[15:45] {hawkfan4} how about a congratulatory trout?
[15:45] {Threei} congratulations hawk
06[15:45] * Threei slaps hawkfan4 around a bit with a large trout
[15:46] {hawkfan4} thank you :)
[15:46] {Threei} you are very welcome :)
06[15:46] * magoo slaps hawkfan4 around a bit with a large trout
[15:46] {hawkfan4} lol
[15:46] {Threei} can't tell you how satisfying it is to see what huge progress you've made in a few month
[15:47] {hawkfan4} you're not kidding, a huge turnaround
[15:48] {magoo} sigh
[15:48] {hawkfan4} i spent the first 3 months of the year getting clobbered, then did a mentoring session with Vad and it's been steady progress ever since
[15:48] {Threei} in amazing way, a bit of soul-searching took mistery out of the markets
[15:49] {Threei} secret to good trading lies in intense navel-gazing
[15:49] {Threei} there... I came up with some used call vadisms:
[15:50] {Threei} know thyself, and you will know the markets
[15:51] {cosmo} market shearching took mistery out of the soul
[15:51] {cosmo} hmmm
[15:51] {Threei} lol
[15:51] {Threei} that was cosmism
[15:53] {magoo} sol worked but didn't want iot this close to bell
[15:53] {Threei} can't blame you
[15:53] {Threei} we had a beautiful day
[15:53] {Threei} why risk it
[15:53] {Threei} on last minutes
[15:53] {Chaeron} bid on ABAT
[15:53] {magoo} bingo
[15:53] {dptl} have a good evening all and ty :)
[15:53] {Threei} I've made one more observation about latest trading
[15:53] {_Lisa_Jay} First day here and learnt - 1. Keep stop even if it gets hit - hey you never know.
[15:54] {Threei} but too lazy now to share it
[15:54] {Threei} will do tomorrow
[15:54] {Chaeron} you won't be lazy tomorrow?
[15:54] {cosmo} here's one ... sometimes this keyboard here gets kinda like a ouija board
[15:54] {Threei} oh I will
[15:54] {Threei} I always am
[15:54] {Threei} but I have more energy in first half of the day to fight it odff
[15:54] {Threei} take care dp
[15:55] {Threei} stops are to be kept religiously lisa... not for discussion, not for altering
[15:55] {Threei} just keep them
[15:55] {Threei} otherwise you don't stand a chance
[15:55] {Threei} you may get lucky 9 times
[15:55] {Threei} 10th you won't and the size of the loss on that single one will take all the profits of those 9 and a lot more
[15:56] {_Lisa_Jay} Yes.
[15:56] {Threei} remember classic stages of going through bad news?
[15:56] {Threei} denial
[15:56] {Threei} anger
[15:56] {Threei} bargaining
[15:56] {Threei} what's next
[15:56] {Threei} depression
[15:56] {Threei} acceptance
[15:57] {Threei} that's exactly what will happen as you hold losing position
[15:57] {Threei} in an amazingly consistent way, acceptance and taking a loss much bigger than you could ever imagine wsill occur at the exact bottom
[15:58] {magoo} thats so so true
[15:58] {_Lisa_Jay} I have opposite problem. i don't let setup work. i cut it too quick.
[15:58] {cosmo} born to suffer...
[15:58] {Threei} on denial stage you will be telling yourself it's going to turn around any minute now
[15:58] {Threei} then you get angry at your self or at market
[15:59] {Threei} then you ask p[owers that be to grant you your wish this one time, promising that you'
[15:59] {Threei} ll bnever blow a stop again
[15:59] {Chaeron} and become a priest
[15:59] {Threei} then you'll become indifferent, "whatever happens, I don't care:"
[15:59] {Threei} then you finally accept it and take loss
[16:00] {Threei} no trader in the world haven't lived through it
[16:00] {cosmo} you sure the meds didn't do that?
[16:00] {_Lisa_Jay} Me?
[16:00] {Threei} only red pill
[16:00] {cosmo} k then
[16:00] {Threei} talking about pattern in general, lisa
[16:01] {Threei} no one in particular
[16:01] {Threei} OK guys, thank you all
[16:01] {Threei} have a great evening, see you all tomorrow
[16:01] {Chaeron} thanks again Vad... see you tomorrow
[16:01] {Threei} at least those who elect to see me
[16:01] {_Lisa_Jay} Thank you so much Vad.
[16:01] {hawkfan4} thx vad, all
[16:01] {Threei} and since it's not necessary pretty, can't blame those who decides otherwise
[16:02] {Threei} oh and magoo
06[16:02] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
06[16:02] * Chaeron slaps _Lisa_Jay around a bit with a large trout
[16:02] {_Lisa_Jay} :-) Thanks Chaeron.
[16:02] {Chaeron} that's just to officially welcome you to the room :)
[16:03] {Threei} lol
[16:03] {Threei} where is Geo
[16:03] {Threei} somehow I feel like slapping him as well
[16:03] {Chaeron} you're one of us now... don't want you to feel like you're not ohana
[16:03] {magoo} TY vad{for ther trout}
[16:03] {Threei} welcome... I felt I had to oblige
