February 19 2008
Session Time: Tue Feb 19 00:00:00 2008
[08:07] {Threei} AKNS
[08:07] {Threei} REPORTS PRELIM FY07 REVENUES $32.2 V $31.5M-CEO states "Our 2008 business plan calls for us to achieve EBITDA breakeven by year-end, adjusted for non-cash stock based compensation expense. We expect to make substantial progress toward reaching GAAP profitability by the end of 2009"
[08:10] {_haley} good morning
[08:10] {Threei} morning haley
[08:14] {Threei} funny stock opens with sizeable gap up... CUBA
[08:17] {hawkfan4} good morning vad, all
[08:18] {Threei} hawk :)
[08:19] {hawkfan4} i met a trader you could relate to yesterday, a true scalper. trades 10k lots for .01. says he made 550k last year 100 bucks at a time
[08:20] {Threei} not my cup of tea really
[08:20] {hawkfan4} sounds like a lot of work, 300 trades/day
[08:21] {Threei} hmm
[08:21] {Threei} 30 you mesan?
[08:21] {hawkfan4} oops, yes :)
[08:21] {Threei} 300 x 100 x 220 would take him into 5 mils a year
[08:22] {hawkfan4} 300/day i think he'd still be twitching at dinnertime
[08:22] {Threei} lol
[08:25] {Threei} as any other method, it works if one is good at it
[08:26] {Threei} no method works by itself, you know :)
[08:27] {Threei} I prefer more reasonable size and more sensible move than .01... but ZI do recognize that from the point of view of a swingtrader what I do is, too, too much work for too little gain :)
[08:28] {Threei} do a little experiment
[08:28] {hawkfan4} yep. he's a former pit trader from the cbot, had to adapt. He couldn't emphasize risk manamgement more, that it's the key to long term success
[08:28] {Threei} catch a moment with strong market, strong XMSR, SIRI forming breakout setup or readable pullback, buy 3K
[08:29] {Threei} try to make 2-3 cents
[08:29] {Threei} you will know right there and then whether it's a method for you :)
[08:30] {Threei} if you are using Laser, don't forget that in order to make it work you need to add liquidity at least on one side
[08:30] {Threei} on entry or on exirt
[08:30] {hawkfan4} not using it, but gonna look into it. IB a little expensive
[08:31] {Threei} what do you pay?
[08:31] {Threei} dcc me if more comfortable
[08:31] {hawkfan4} .01/shr, but 1k lot is 7.50 one way
[08:32] {Threei} no matter if you add or remove liquidity?
[08:32] {hawkfan4} that i don't know. i just learned a bit about that concept yesterday
[08:32] {hawkfan4} i'll check that out though
[08:33] {Threei} OK, let me know if need any help in this regard
[08:33] {hawkfan4} i will, thanks vad :)
[08:33] {Threei} also, you are paying for external charting I take it?
[08:33] {hawkfan4} yes, i use esignal for intraday and lvl 2, and tc2000 for scanning
[08:35] {Threei} look dcc pls
[08:46] {magoo} mornink comrades
[08:46] {Threei} magooski :)
[08:52] {magoo} hawk, that scalper, we would break even, 10k @ .01 is 100 bux, but even at 5/1000 shartes, in - out is 100 bux commission
[08:53] {Threei} depdns mags
[08:53] {Threei} depends
[08:53] {Threei} if you add liquidity on both sides getting ECN rebates, commissions go down quite considerably
[08:54] {Threei} and that's what most of those who deploy such trading do
[08:55] {hawkfan4} yeah, he explained it to me but was over my head.
[08:56] {Threei} there is not much mistery to it, it's a simple concept
[08:56] {hawkfan4} besides, he's a trader, so i take 1/2 of what he says and figure it's bs :)
[08:57] {Threei} take out existing orders, you remove liquidity and pay ECN fees
[08:57] {Threei} bid and offer and get good enough or lucky enough to get hit on both, you add liquidity and get ECN rebates
[09:00] {cosmo} CUBA happy
[09:00] {cosmo} i think
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[09:04] {dptl} good morning all
[09:05] {Threei} dp :)
[09:06] {esemde} Good morning bruce Vad dp hawk jm magoo haley
[09:06] {Threei} ese :)
[09:07] {hawkfan4} morning ese :)
[09:08] {Threei} market is totally oblivious to all the dire warnings
[09:08] {Threei} acts like bulls are in charge from now on till 2145
[09:09] {Threei} dp, look dcc plase
[09:09] {cosmo} ARRS
[09:10] {cosmo} 5.80 high so far
[09:10] {Threei} 08:08am [ARRS] Announces share repurchase program covering $100M in shares (16.5% of market cap)
[09:10] {Threei} 06:04am [ARRS] Price Target lowered to $10 from $16 at ThinkEquity; Maintains buy rating
[09:12] {Threei} LIBYA: DIFFICULT FOR OPEC TO CUT OIL OUTPUT AT CURRENT PRICES, BUT TOO EARLY TO PREDICT WHAT OPEC WILL DECIDE AT THE MARCH 5 MEETING
[09:12] {dino} gm all
[09:13] {Threei} dino :)
[09:15] {Threei} if market strength continues, SOLF is likely to stage another run
[09:16] {esemde} I would agree with that
[09:18] {bruce} morning ese
[09:19] {Threei} bruce :)
[09:20] {esemde} bruce
[09:22] {Threei} ese, look dcc please
[09:25] {dino} onxx bit of blood
[09:26] {esemde} was just looking at that dino
[09:27] {esemde} you plan on a short
[09:27] {bruce} morning vad
[09:27] {Threei} FED'S STERN: SOME MARKETS ARE PERFORMING BETTER; INFLATION EXPECTATIONS ARE WELL ANCHORED - Q&A
- Says inflation expectations are not debasing currency
[09:27] {Threei} - Does not expect gap between overall and headline inflation to alst over time
[09:27] {cosmo} ONXX pre mkt high = 36.5 fwiw
[09:29] {dino} es, thinking long at some point 34ish small
[09:30] {dino} drug still works w/kidney cancer,m just not lung
[09:30] {esemde} tks
[09:30] {dino} np
[09:31] {magoo} sharp down here
[09:31] {cosmo} onxx
[09:33] {Threei} IDMI is starting this dance again or what
[09:33] {Threei} 3.70 long if holding above 3.50
[09:34] {Threei} if it takes 3.90-3.90 resistance, likely to present big surprise
[09:34] {Threei} 3.80 -3.90
[09:36] {dino} kalu
[09:39] {Threei} invalidated for now IDMI
[09:40] {bruce} stld dino
[09:41] {Roman}
21 PAAS strong
[09:41] {Roman}
21 SSRI too
[09:43] {dino} qdel s sm .68
[09:44] {magoo} idmi bounce candidate vad?
[09:44] {bruce} qcom long vad?
[09:44] {Threei} if holding above .40 and crosses back over .50 mags
[09:45] {Threei} QCOM is very strong
[09:45] {Threei} pullback into 43 would be the best
[09:45] {esemde} prxi
[09:45] {Threei} but if doesn't happen break is valid
[09:46] {esemde} blast.....didn't get a fill at .30
[09:46] {dino} stld bruce y, s somewhere
[09:47] {dino} following kalu
[09:48] {dino} s stld .03
[09:48] {Threei} if got QCOM off 43, stop is under 42.80
[09:49] {esemde} long COCO .50 1/2 lot
[09:50] {Threei} with any market help QCOM is more than scalp
[09:50] {esemde} Out COCO .75
[09:50] {esemde} =}25
[09:50] {esemde} =.25
[09:50] {esemde} +.25...there!!!
[09:50] {Threei} :)
[09:51] {dino} gj
[09:52] {esemde} perfect numbers ...easy to calculate
[09:52] {esemde} 50 to 75
[09:52] {Threei} that's what we mathematically challenged types like
[09:52] {esemde} am thinking about pullback
[09:53] {dino} stld bstop to .93
[09:53] {dino} sheesh spike, stopped +.10
[09:54] {bruce} me too dino - waiting for stld to set up again
[09:54] {dino} same at .48
[09:54] {Threei} QCOM stop to .89
[09:55] {esemde} long 1/2 COCO again .59
[09:55] {Threei} is today the day my little VLNC finally hits 3?
[09:56] {dino} no
[09:56] {dino} :)
[09:56] {Threei} sigh
[09:57] {dino} qdel bstop to b/e
[09:59] {dino} qdel stop .63 +.05
[10:00] {Threei} offering VLNC at 3.05
[10:00] {Threei} swing trade from 2.35 in case you forgot
[10:01] {Threei} 3 on the nose
[10:02] {Threei} come on, break
[10:04] {Threei} FED'S STERN: MOST ECONOMIC READINGS ARE NOT ALL THAT BAD; SHOULD NOT GET CARRIED AWAY WITH NEGATIVES - Q&A
[10:05] {curtisweese} qcom -$.10
[10:05] {bruce} stopped qcom
[10:06] {curtisweese} lucky i had my stop placed tpp
[10:06] {curtisweese} err too
[10:06] {Threei} yeah, lost drive
[10:07] {esemde} Out COCO ..78 +.19
[10:08] {esemde} now will see about a breakout at .80
[10:08] {esemde} bstop .81 COCO
[10:11] {esemde} pulled bstop on COCO
[10:11] {Threei} FED'S STERN: SEES RISK OF CREDIT CRUNCH FOR EXTENDED PERIOD; RATE CUTS HAVE BEEN WHOLLY APPROPRIATE
- Economic growth in long run to average 2.5%.
[10:11] {Threei} - Economy now similar to early 90s headwinds period.
[10:11] {Threei} - Sees unemployment worsening if the economy keeps softening.
[10:11] {dino} brillant
[10:12] {Threei} there is more where it came from
[10:12] {Threei} - Does not expect return of double digit inflation as in the 1980s.
[10:12] {Threei} - Says housing still has inventory related problems; Expects housing activity to remain subdued, until inventory is reduced, and some subprime borrowers are doing bette
[10:14] {dino} they are popping us around us lately
[10:14] {dino} banks asking about 65% on the dollar taking offers 30% lower for cash closes
[10:18] {Threei} direct hit VLNC
[10:18] {Threei} out at 3.05
[10:18] {Threei} days of patient waiting rewarded
[10:21] {Threei} US STATE DEPT'S NEGROPONTE: US EMBARGO OF CUBA TO REMAIN IN PLACE DESPITE CASTRO'S RESIGNATION
[10:22] {dino} onxx l .60
[10:25] {dino} onxx stopped -.50
[10:25] {Threei} SEED spike, don't see news
[10:26] {Threei} ONXX EXPECTS TO BE 'CASH FLOW POSITIVE' FOR THE YEAR, MAY HAVE SOME PROFITABLE QUARTERS DURING 2008 - CONF CALL
[10:29] {dino} qdel s .80
[10:30] {Threei} DRIV . 62 long half lot if holding above .50; if losing it look for entry on pullback around .30-.40
[10:35] {dino} amed
[10:35] {dino} gtxi
[10:36] {Chaeron} gm all :)
[10:36] {Threei} chaeron :)
[10:39] {Threei} what's with PAL?
[10:40] {bruce} stld worth try short again near here dino?
[10:40] {dino} amed sm s .69, stop .03
[10:41] {dino} apol blood
[10:44] {dino} amed stopped -.34
[10:47] {Threei} I guess bull maarket is over
[10:49] {bruce} driv stop .40 vad?
[10:49] {Threei} yes... I wouldn't even be in though
[10:49] {Threei} it lost support before triggering
[10:49] {bruce} k -
[10:51] {bruce} onxx may be reversing here dino
[10:52] {dino} y, i think so too
[10:54] {Threei} RIMM .31 long small shares with stop .14
[10:54] {Threei} invalidated if loses .15
[10:55] {Threei} lost
[10:56] {Threei} needs to hold .20 this time to become valid again
[10:58] {Threei} half out RIMM, scalpers take profit
[10:58] {dino} you take stld bruce?
[10:59] {bruce} no- wasn't sure where to enter dino - watching it
[11:00] {dino} aks same industry
[11:00] {Threei} RIMM over 1:2
[11:00] {Threei} out +.41
[11:03] {dino} stld sm s .06 stop .41
[11:06] {bruce} I wasn't able to read rimm vad - what made it a long there?
[11:07] {dino} qdel stopped spiked -.23
[11:08] {Threei} market recovery at the moment and pullback setup, cross back above resistance while holding support
[11:08] {Threei} it danced a bit above .30 with .15 being support,
[11:08] {Threei} lost it,
[11:09] {Threei} making cross back a long trigger,
[11:09] {Threei} so question became where the stop was
[11:09] {Threei} as soon as it formed support weith stop tight enough for my risk tolerance and market showed new strength, break of .30 became a buy
[11:11] {dino} aks sm s .08
[11:12] {dino} stld stopped cov .80, +.26
[11:12] {bruce} k
[11:12] {bruce} thanx vad
[11:15] {Threei} 94.99 short RIMM if stays below 95.15
[11:22] {esemde} bye all have a great day
[11:22] {Threei} take care ese
[11:22] {bruce} bye ese
[11:26] {hawkfan4} bruce/dino, great heads up on ONXX, thanks
[11:29] {bruce} stld short again here dino?
[11:29] {bruce} welcome hawk
[11:29] {cosmo} TONE
[11:30] {cosmo} breakish...
[11:30] {dino} dk, hope so i have aks s
[11:34] {Threei} XLF .50 long for a scalp if stays above .40
[11:34] {Threei} for hard core scalpers stop .44
[11:36] {magoo} symbol not coming up?
[11:36] {Threei} ?
[11:37] {Threei} XLF
[11:37] {Chaeron} in L2 box... not able to load
[11:37] {magoo} bulletin boaard?
[11:37] {dptl} long .50 xlf
[11:37] {Threei} huh
[11:37] {Chaeron} amex?
[11:37] {Chaeron} not BB mags...
[11:37] {Chaeron} I get a chart on XLF Vad, but XLF not loading in L2 box
[11:37] {magoo} hm..i not getting quotes on it
[11:38] {Threei} wierd
[11:38] {Chaeron} yeah, me too magoo
[11:38] {Chaeron} just another way the man is keeping me down........
[11:38] {dino} aks stopped .36 -.28
[11:48] {dino} apol off of .00 l
[11:48] {dino} ok, stop .69
[11:49] {dptl} moving stop to b/e xlf
[11:49] {dino} gtiv
[11:51] {bruce} crox dropping dino
[11:51] {Threei} where did you place original one dp?
[11:51] {Threei} .39 or .44?
[11:51] {dptl} ..39
[11:52] {Threei} BABY
[11:52] {Threei} HEARING RUMORS OF POSITIVE FDA RULING
[11:53] {dino} earning tonight
[11:53] {dino} crox
[11:56] {Threei} 1:1 for dp
[11:56] {dptl} ye out ty
[11:57] {Threei} :)
[12:00] {bruce} onxx may break out here
[12:00] {dino} hope so l from .60
[12:01] {bruce} nice entry dino
[12:02] {dino} lucky
[12:04] {Threei} CEGE nears Fri high 2.85
[12:05] {dino} crox sm l .10 stop lod
[12:05] {Threei} 2.75 nearest support, probably worth a try for a quick scalp at .86
[12:05] {Threei} especially if not losing .80 anymore
[12:06] {bruce} bidu long dino?
[12:08] {dino} not touching it, ask magoo
[12:08] {dptl} l.87 cege
[12:09] * Threei slaps Laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:10] * magoo slaps Laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:10] * Chaeron slaps Laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:10] * Laserdave1 slaps Laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:13] {Threei} my patience is at its limit, out XLF +.14
[12:15] {dptl} stop on cege under .80 now?
[12:15] {magoo} u take CEGE vad?
[12:15] {Threei} yeah
[12:15] {Threei} yeah
[12:15] {Threei} market sharp downtick
[12:15] {bruce} cge stop .79?
[12:16] {Threei} [12:15] {dptl} stop on cege under .80 now?
[12:16] {Threei} [12:15] {Threei} yeah
[12:16] {Chaeron} such enthusiasm! :)
[12:17] {dino} apol stopped
[12:20] {dino} ustr
[12:20] {magoo} where u waiting vad cege?
[12:21] {Threei} I don't have target
[12:21] {Threei} will see how it trades
[12:21] {Threei} want sharp spike
[12:21] {Threei} makes new highs so far
[12:23] {Threei} with 6 cents risk, I just don't feel like I have to worry about it too much
[12:26] {dptl} out .93
[12:26] {Threei} dp is determined to squeze any single cent market gives today :)
[12:26] {dptl} pretty much....:)
[12:27] {dino} dp is the man
[12:28] {dptl} those sizes .95 .96 .97
[12:28] {bruce} crox may be setting up for ong here dino
[12:28] {dino} onxx stop to .18
[12:28] {dptl} now they gone
[12:32] {dino} in it bruce at .10
[12:33] {dino} onxx stop to .39
[12:34] {dino} onxx to .48
[12:36] {dino} out onxx .48,
[12:36] {dino} +.88
[12:36] {Threei} nice
[12:36] {bruce} nice dino
[12:36] {dino} ty, needed one
[12:46] {Threei} sold half CEGE .98
[12:49] {Threei} 3 break is in order
[12:50] {Threei} solidly over 1:1 guys, decide for yourself
[12:50] {Threei} I'll try for 3.10
[12:56] {bruce} dino - ustr
[13:00] {Threei} *FEB NAHB HOUSING MARKET INDEX: 20 V 19E
- no revision to prior 19
[13:00] {Threei} - Home buyer traffic at 7 month high
[13:02] {Threei} my stop is .84 for the balance
[13:04] {Threei} out
[13:14] {dino} ustr l .70, stop .29
[13:28] {bruce} alxn dino
[13:29] {Threei} ZEUS goes to the top of Olympus
[13:30] {cosmo} that 's not fresh...
[13:32] {Threei} no... and hey, bad puns is my specialty
[13:35] {cosmo} its Art
[13:36] {Threei} wow XLF
[13:37] {Threei} we nailed trend reversal exactly...
[13:37] {Chaeron} Just heard over the wires that there is a fertilizer shortage..... in an election year???????
[13:38] {cosmo} its being horded maybe
[13:38] {Threei} hmmm
[13:38] {Threei} is your idea of connection betwen election and fertilizer what think it is?
[13:38] {Chaeron} I'll report... you decide :)
[13:39] {cosmo} nurturing new ideas?
[13:39] {cosmo} change?
[13:39] {cosmo} nah...
[13:39] {Chaeron} heheh
[13:40] {Threei} gosh... VRSI is in reseller pact with Nortel
[13:40] {Threei} looking at VRSO, can't help but think, Nortel's business is in more troubles than I could ever suspect
[13:48] {Threei} POT
[13:48] {Threei} CEO: CONSIDERED BUYING ITSELF OUT AFTER PRICE DROP IN JANUARY; EARNINGS WILL BE "MUCH STRONGER THIS YEAR" - WIRE CITING INTERVIEW COMMENTS
- Sees famine this year if crops fail in a major region.
[13:48] {Threei} - Sees extended period of high fertilizer demand.
[13:49] {Threei} famine?
[13:52] {Threei} MON
[13:52] {Threei} 120 break looks compelling
[13:52] {Threei} stop would be .75
[13:52] {Threei} a bit jumpy
[13:53] {Threei} keep size reasonable
[13:56] {Raven}
3 back ... rofl Chaeron ... fertilizer ...
[13:56] {Threei} ok... Raven sees what I see in that comment :)
[13:56] {Chaeron} thanks Raven... :)
[13:56] {Raven}
3 np
[13:56] {Raven}
3 thx to cosmo too
[13:57] {Threei} SEED is famine stock too?
[13:57] {Raven}
3 is there famine in the country now too ... along with everything else ??
[13:57] {Threei} so they say
[13:58] {dino} there is what there is
[13:58] {bruce} alxn possible reversal near here dino
[13:58] {dino} crox stopped .16 +.06
[13:58] {Raven}
3 thx dino :)
[13:58] {dino} np raven...i do what i can do
[13:59] {Raven}
3 I see that ... good job
[14:00] {dino} of course, i see what i see too
[14:00] {dino} cpla l sm .90
[14:00] {Raven}
3 calm down
[14:01] {dino} ok...but i'll gladly pay you on tuesday for a hamburger today
[14:01] {Raven}
3 you are losing it ...
[14:02] {dino} the markets are turning my mind to mush buddy\
[14:02] {Threei} MON turns into bounce play, 119 closest support
[14:02] {Raven}
3 a walk in the cold perhaps ?
[14:03] -} *services* REGISTER _fastchocho karnez77
[14:03] {dino} going to hit the bowflex
[14:03] {Raven}
3 maybe shovel some slush ?
[14:04] {dino} all gone, just cold
[14:04] {Raven}
3 nice
[14:04] {Raven}
3 fuc**** winter wonderland
[14:05] {dino} yeah, only about 20 f here
[14:05] {Raven}
3 18.7F here with more snow ... endless snow
[14:06] {Raven}
3 down to around zero tonight
[14:06] {patience} hot day here yesterday, right vad?
[14:06] {dino} about 8 last night
[14:06] * Raven slaps patience around a bit with a large trout
[14:06] {dino} won't matter in 2 weeks
[14:06] {patience} its true.....joggers wearing shorts now
[14:06] {Raven}
3 oh sigh
[14:07] {Threei} it is
[14:08] {Threei} I had jacket on yesterday for 7miles walk, on the way back didn't know how to get rid of it
[14:08] {Raven}
3 arghhh
[14:11] {dino} apol
[14:11] {dino} oh mann, my 2 mile wallk at 7:30, had parka, scarf, sweatshirt, insulated socks, sneakers, and heavy hat
[14:12] {Threei} my past... firly put behind my back
[14:12] {Threei} never again
[14:12] {Threei} didn't catch MON
[14:12] {Raven}
3 my walk did not even occur
[14:14] {dino} if i wasn't at the bus stop w/kids, mine wouldn't either, but since i'm out there...
[14:15] {Raven}
3 sounds dreadful
[14:15] {cosmo} back... had to walk the dogs
[14:16] {dino} clears the head tho
[14:16] {Raven}
3 teach them to use a litter box
[14:16] {cosmo} they have a yard
[14:17] {cosmo} well fertalized..
[14:17] {Raven}
3 fertilized ?
[14:17] {Threei} no famine in cosmo's yard
[14:18] {Raven}
3 and cosmo can't step out there
[14:18] {Raven}
3 without stepping in
[14:18] {cosmo} sow bugs do the trick
[14:18] {Raven}
3 dung beetles ?
[14:19] {cosmo} hmmm...faxsimili
[14:19] {Raven}
3 another continent
[14:20] {cosmo} facsimile then
[14:20] {Raven}
3 better
[14:24] {cosmo} i'll have to get a good picture sometime... nothing on google
[14:25] {dino} hurn smacked
[14:37] {Threei} OK, where is promised bull market?
[14:38] {Threei} watching RIMM for bounce play
[14:39] {Threei} missed near 94
[14:39] {Threei} not chasing
[14:41] {Threei} in this time
[14:41] {Threei} stop under 94
[14:41] {Threei} questionable market here
[14:42] {Threei} hard to tell bounce time or one more leg down
[14:42] {magoo} where u in?
[14:42] {Threei} .15
[14:42] {magoo} .20
[14:43] {Threei} nope
[14:43] {Threei} another selloff
[14:43] {Threei} looking for better entry
[14:45] {dino} ustr stopped .29 -.41
[14:46] {Threei} still doesn't feel ready
[14:48] {Threei} OK, .70
[14:48] {Threei} .59 stop
[14:48] {Threei} half out
[14:49] {Threei} _.25
[14:49] {Threei} +.25
[14:49] {Threei} stop .69
[14:49] {bruce} apol may find support near 65 dino
[14:49] {dino} sm wide hurn l .46
[14:49] {dino} never thought it would get therewatching apol
[14:50] {Threei} BIDS FOR GM BUILDING IN NYC "OVER $3B", WOULD BE HIGHEST PRICE EVER FOR US BUILDING
[14:50] {Threei} Chaeron, you sure you need such big office?
[14:50] {Chaeron} expansion is key :)
[14:50] {Threei} sure... but still
[14:51] {Threei} cleaning bill must be staggering
[14:51] {Chaeron} have a corner office with yours and Raven's name on it
[14:51] {dino} location huh chaer?
[14:51] {Threei} out balance RIMM b/e
[14:51] {Chaeron} dino and mags too :)
[14:52] {Threei} want dive under .50
[14:52] {dino} pretyy good selloff
[14:52] {bruce} ustr breaking lod
[14:54] {Threei} held .50... OK, pullback then to establish double bottom
[14:56] {Threei} in
[14:56] {dino} hurn stop to .86
[14:56] {Threei} .74
[14:56] {Raven}
3 lol
[14:57] {Threei} a bit far from support but doesn't look like better pullback is in cards
[14:57] {dino} out +.37, slip to .83
[14:57] {dino} solars getting hit
[14:58] {dino} apol good call bruce
[14:58] {magoo} your in rimm .74 vad?
[14:58] {Threei} yes
[14:59] {Threei} not delighted by stop size, if you got better price good for you
[14:59] {dino} lod held ustr, maybe good entry area
[14:59] {Threei} ugh
[15:00] {dino} nah ustr
[15:01] {dino} ok, there's our 200 pt range dji
[15:02] {dino} back in 10
[15:03] {Threei} pattern of late day rug pull is back
[15:04] {Threei} bounce time, now or never
[15:14] {dino} ustr l sm .90
[15:17] {Threei} in RIMM for another bounce
[15:17] {Threei} .65 stop
[15:17] {Threei} not veru confident
[15:17] {Threei} market is shaky
[15:18] {dino} ya think?????
[15:18] {Threei} out +.29
[15:18] {dino} nice
[15:18] {dino} ctct
[15:25] {dptl} .
[15:26] {Threei} maybe one more drop
[15:26] {dino} hurn sm l .05
[15:26] {Threei} RIMM short
[15:26] {Threei} ugh, late a little
[15:26] {Threei} into this bounce
[15:27] {Threei} stop above .90
[15:28] {Threei} dies NQ
[15:28] {Threei} -s
[15:29] {Threei} that was an instruction, not a statement
[15:29] {magoo} i had call, u in anything vad here?
[15:29] {Threei} RIMM short .80
[15:31] {Threei} shhh
[15:31] {Threei} missed cover while typed
[15:31] {Threei} out +.24
[15:32] {Threei} about 10 cents initial stop on RIMM{ it doesn't get better than this
[15:39] {Threei} looking for long now
[15:39] {Threei} if holding .50
[15:39] {magoo} where?
[15:39] {Threei} .70
[15:40] {Threei} stop under .50
[15:40] {magoo} crap, only 100 filled
[15:41] {Threei} labored trade
[15:43] {Threei} out +.25
[15:58] {Threei} missed this last selloff, couldn't find any indication for an entry
[15:58] {dino} out cpla -.26
[16:00] {dino} oui ustr .04,
[16:00] {dino} .14
[16:00] {Threei} thank you all
[16:00] {dptl} have a good evening all
[16:00] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[16:00] {Threei} for either bear or bull market
[16:00] {Threei} roll a dice
[16:01] {dino} crox .45 vs est .44
[08:07] {Threei} AKNS
[08:07] {Threei} REPORTS PRELIM FY07 REVENUES $32.2 V $31.5M-CEO states "Our 2008 business plan calls for us to achieve EBITDA breakeven by year-end, adjusted for non-cash stock based compensation expense. We expect to make substantial progress toward reaching GAAP profitability by the end of 2009"
[08:10] {_haley} good morning
[08:10] {Threei} morning haley
[08:14] {Threei} funny stock opens with sizeable gap up... CUBA
[08:17] {hawkfan4} good morning vad, all
[08:18] {Threei} hawk :)
[08:19] {hawkfan4} i met a trader you could relate to yesterday, a true scalper. trades 10k lots for .01. says he made 550k last year 100 bucks at a time
[08:20] {Threei} not my cup of tea really
[08:20] {hawkfan4} sounds like a lot of work, 300 trades/day
[08:21] {Threei} hmm
[08:21] {Threei} 30 you mesan?
[08:21] {hawkfan4} oops, yes :)
[08:21] {Threei} 300 x 100 x 220 would take him into 5 mils a year
[08:22] {hawkfan4} 300/day i think he'd still be twitching at dinnertime
[08:22] {Threei} lol
[08:25] {Threei} as any other method, it works if one is good at it
[08:26] {Threei} no method works by itself, you know :)
[08:27] {Threei} I prefer more reasonable size and more sensible move than .01... but ZI do recognize that from the point of view of a swingtrader what I do is, too, too much work for too little gain :)
[08:28] {Threei} do a little experiment
[08:28] {hawkfan4} yep. he's a former pit trader from the cbot, had to adapt. He couldn't emphasize risk manamgement more, that it's the key to long term success
[08:28] {Threei} catch a moment with strong market, strong XMSR, SIRI forming breakout setup or readable pullback, buy 3K
[08:29] {Threei} try to make 2-3 cents
[08:29] {Threei} you will know right there and then whether it's a method for you :)
[08:30] {Threei} if you are using Laser, don't forget that in order to make it work you need to add liquidity at least on one side
[08:30] {Threei} on entry or on exirt
[08:30] {hawkfan4} not using it, but gonna look into it. IB a little expensive
[08:31] {Threei} what do you pay?
[08:31] {Threei} dcc me if more comfortable
[08:31] {hawkfan4} .01/shr, but 1k lot is 7.50 one way
[08:32] {Threei} no matter if you add or remove liquidity?
[08:32] {hawkfan4} that i don't know. i just learned a bit about that concept yesterday
[08:32] {hawkfan4} i'll check that out though
[08:33] {Threei} OK, let me know if need any help in this regard
[08:33] {hawkfan4} i will, thanks vad :)
[08:33] {Threei} also, you are paying for external charting I take it?
[08:33] {hawkfan4} yes, i use esignal for intraday and lvl 2, and tc2000 for scanning
[08:35] {Threei} look dcc pls
[08:46] {magoo} mornink comrades
[08:46] {Threei} magooski :)
[08:52] {magoo} hawk, that scalper, we would break even, 10k @ .01 is 100 bux, but even at 5/1000 shartes, in - out is 100 bux commission
[08:53] {Threei} depdns mags
[08:53] {Threei} depends
[08:53] {Threei} if you add liquidity on both sides getting ECN rebates, commissions go down quite considerably
[08:54] {Threei} and that's what most of those who deploy such trading do
[08:55] {hawkfan4} yeah, he explained it to me but was over my head.
[08:56] {Threei} there is not much mistery to it, it's a simple concept
[08:56] {hawkfan4} besides, he's a trader, so i take 1/2 of what he says and figure it's bs :)
[08:57] {Threei} take out existing orders, you remove liquidity and pay ECN fees
[08:57] {Threei} bid and offer and get good enough or lucky enough to get hit on both, you add liquidity and get ECN rebates
[09:00] {cosmo} CUBA happy
[09:00] {cosmo} i think
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[09:04] {dptl} good morning all
[09:05] {Threei} dp :)
[09:06] {esemde} Good morning bruce Vad dp hawk jm magoo haley
[09:06] {Threei} ese :)
[09:07] {hawkfan4} morning ese :)
[09:08] {Threei} market is totally oblivious to all the dire warnings
[09:08] {Threei} acts like bulls are in charge from now on till 2145
[09:09] {Threei} dp, look dcc plase
[09:09] {cosmo} ARRS
[09:10] {cosmo} 5.80 high so far
[09:10] {Threei} 08:08am [ARRS] Announces share repurchase program covering $100M in shares (16.5% of market cap)
[09:10] {Threei} 06:04am [ARRS] Price Target lowered to $10 from $16 at ThinkEquity; Maintains buy rating
[09:12] {Threei} LIBYA: DIFFICULT FOR OPEC TO CUT OIL OUTPUT AT CURRENT PRICES, BUT TOO EARLY TO PREDICT WHAT OPEC WILL DECIDE AT THE MARCH 5 MEETING
[09:12] {dino} gm all
[09:13] {Threei} dino :)
[09:15] {Threei} if market strength continues, SOLF is likely to stage another run
[09:16] {esemde} I would agree with that
[09:18] {bruce} morning ese
[09:19] {Threei} bruce :)
[09:20] {esemde} bruce
[09:22] {Threei} ese, look dcc please
[09:25] {dino} onxx bit of blood
[09:26] {esemde} was just looking at that dino
[09:27] {esemde} you plan on a short
[09:27] {bruce} morning vad
[09:27] {Threei} FED'S STERN: SOME MARKETS ARE PERFORMING BETTER; INFLATION EXPECTATIONS ARE WELL ANCHORED - Q&A
- Says inflation expectations are not debasing currency
[09:27] {Threei} - Does not expect gap between overall and headline inflation to alst over time
[09:27] {cosmo} ONXX pre mkt high = 36.5 fwiw
[09:29] {dino} es, thinking long at some point 34ish small
[09:30] {dino} drug still works w/kidney cancer,m just not lung
[09:30] {esemde} tks
[09:30] {dino} np
[09:31] {magoo} sharp down here
[09:31] {cosmo} onxx
[09:33] {Threei} IDMI is starting this dance again or what
[09:33] {Threei} 3.70 long if holding above 3.50
[09:34] {Threei} if it takes 3.90-3.90 resistance, likely to present big surprise
[09:34] {Threei} 3.80 -3.90
[09:36] {dino} kalu
[09:39] {Threei} invalidated for now IDMI
[09:40] {bruce} stld dino
[09:41] {Roman}
21 PAAS strong
[09:41] {Roman}
21 SSRI too
[09:43] {dino} qdel s sm .68
[09:44] {magoo} idmi bounce candidate vad?
[09:44] {bruce} qcom long vad?
[09:44] {Threei} if holding above .40 and crosses back over .50 mags
[09:45] {Threei} QCOM is very strong
[09:45] {Threei} pullback into 43 would be the best
[09:45] {esemde} prxi
[09:45] {Threei} but if doesn't happen break is valid
[09:46] {esemde} blast.....didn't get a fill at .30
[09:46] {dino} stld bruce y, s somewhere
[09:47] {dino} following kalu
[09:48] {dino} s stld .03
[09:48] {Threei} if got QCOM off 43, stop is under 42.80
[09:49] {esemde} long COCO .50 1/2 lot
[09:50] {Threei} with any market help QCOM is more than scalp
[09:50] {esemde} Out COCO .75
[09:50] {esemde} =}25
[09:50] {esemde} =.25
[09:50] {esemde} +.25...there!!!
[09:50] {Threei} :)
[09:51] {dino} gj
[09:52] {esemde} perfect numbers ...easy to calculate
[09:52] {esemde} 50 to 75
[09:52] {Threei} that's what we mathematically challenged types like
[09:52] {esemde} am thinking about pullback
[09:53] {dino} stld bstop to .93
[09:53] {dino} sheesh spike, stopped +.10
[09:54] {bruce} me too dino - waiting for stld to set up again
[09:54] {dino} same at .48
[09:54] {Threei} QCOM stop to .89
[09:55] {esemde} long 1/2 COCO again .59
[09:55] {Threei} is today the day my little VLNC finally hits 3?
[09:56] {dino} no
[09:56] {dino} :)
[09:56] {Threei} sigh
[09:57] {dino} qdel bstop to b/e
[09:59] {dino} qdel stop .63 +.05
[10:00] {Threei} offering VLNC at 3.05
[10:00] {Threei} swing trade from 2.35 in case you forgot
[10:01] {Threei} 3 on the nose
[10:02] {Threei} come on, break
[10:04] {Threei} FED'S STERN: MOST ECONOMIC READINGS ARE NOT ALL THAT BAD; SHOULD NOT GET CARRIED AWAY WITH NEGATIVES - Q&A
[10:05] {curtisweese} qcom -$.10
[10:05] {bruce} stopped qcom
[10:06] {curtisweese} lucky i had my stop placed tpp
[10:06] {curtisweese} err too
[10:06] {Threei} yeah, lost drive
[10:07] {esemde} Out COCO ..78 +.19
[10:08] {esemde} now will see about a breakout at .80
[10:08] {esemde} bstop .81 COCO
[10:11] {esemde} pulled bstop on COCO
[10:11] {Threei} FED'S STERN: SEES RISK OF CREDIT CRUNCH FOR EXTENDED PERIOD; RATE CUTS HAVE BEEN WHOLLY APPROPRIATE
- Economic growth in long run to average 2.5%.
[10:11] {Threei} - Economy now similar to early 90s headwinds period.
[10:11] {Threei} - Sees unemployment worsening if the economy keeps softening.
[10:11] {dino} brillant
[10:12] {Threei} there is more where it came from
[10:12] {Threei} - Does not expect return of double digit inflation as in the 1980s.
[10:12] {Threei} - Says housing still has inventory related problems; Expects housing activity to remain subdued, until inventory is reduced, and some subprime borrowers are doing bette
[10:14] {dino} they are popping us around us lately
[10:14] {dino} banks asking about 65% on the dollar taking offers 30% lower for cash closes
[10:18] {Threei} direct hit VLNC
[10:18] {Threei} out at 3.05
[10:18] {Threei} days of patient waiting rewarded
[10:21] {Threei} US STATE DEPT'S NEGROPONTE: US EMBARGO OF CUBA TO REMAIN IN PLACE DESPITE CASTRO'S RESIGNATION
[10:22] {dino} onxx l .60
[10:25] {dino} onxx stopped -.50
[10:25] {Threei} SEED spike, don't see news
[10:26] {Threei} ONXX EXPECTS TO BE 'CASH FLOW POSITIVE' FOR THE YEAR, MAY HAVE SOME PROFITABLE QUARTERS DURING 2008 - CONF CALL
[10:29] {dino} qdel s .80
[10:30] {Threei} DRIV . 62 long half lot if holding above .50; if losing it look for entry on pullback around .30-.40
[10:35] {dino} amed
[10:35] {dino} gtxi
[10:36] {Chaeron} gm all :)
[10:36] {Threei} chaeron :)
[10:39] {Threei} what's with PAL?
[10:40] {bruce} stld worth try short again near here dino?
[10:40] {dino} amed sm s .69, stop .03
[10:41] {dino} apol blood
[10:44] {dino} amed stopped -.34
[10:47] {Threei} I guess bull maarket is over
[10:49] {bruce} driv stop .40 vad?
[10:49] {Threei} yes... I wouldn't even be in though
[10:49] {Threei} it lost support before triggering
[10:49] {bruce} k -
[10:51] {bruce} onxx may be reversing here dino
[10:52] {dino} y, i think so too
[10:54] {Threei} RIMM .31 long small shares with stop .14
[10:54] {Threei} invalidated if loses .15
[10:55] {Threei} lost
[10:56] {Threei} needs to hold .20 this time to become valid again
[10:58] {Threei} half out RIMM, scalpers take profit
[10:58] {dino} you take stld bruce?
[10:59] {bruce} no- wasn't sure where to enter dino - watching it
[11:00] {dino} aks same industry
[11:00] {Threei} RIMM over 1:2
[11:00] {Threei} out +.41
[11:03] {dino} stld sm s .06 stop .41
[11:06] {bruce} I wasn't able to read rimm vad - what made it a long there?
[11:07] {dino} qdel stopped spiked -.23
[11:08] {Threei} market recovery at the moment and pullback setup, cross back above resistance while holding support
[11:08] {Threei} it danced a bit above .30 with .15 being support,
[11:08] {Threei} lost it,
[11:09] {Threei} making cross back a long trigger,
[11:09] {Threei} so question became where the stop was
[11:09] {Threei} as soon as it formed support weith stop tight enough for my risk tolerance and market showed new strength, break of .30 became a buy
[11:11] {dino} aks sm s .08
[11:12] {dino} stld stopped cov .80, +.26
[11:12] {bruce} k
[11:12] {bruce} thanx vad
[11:15] {Threei} 94.99 short RIMM if stays below 95.15
[11:22] {esemde} bye all have a great day
[11:22] {Threei} take care ese
[11:22] {bruce} bye ese
[11:26] {hawkfan4} bruce/dino, great heads up on ONXX, thanks
[11:29] {bruce} stld short again here dino?
[11:29] {bruce} welcome hawk
[11:29] {cosmo} TONE
[11:30] {cosmo} breakish...
[11:30] {dino} dk, hope so i have aks s
[11:34] {Threei} XLF .50 long for a scalp if stays above .40
[11:34] {Threei} for hard core scalpers stop .44
[11:36] {magoo} symbol not coming up?
[11:36] {Threei} ?
[11:37] {Threei} XLF
[11:37] {Chaeron} in L2 box... not able to load
[11:37] {magoo} bulletin boaard?
[11:37] {dptl} long .50 xlf
[11:37] {Threei} huh
[11:37] {Chaeron} amex?
[11:37] {Chaeron} not BB mags...
[11:37] {Chaeron} I get a chart on XLF Vad, but XLF not loading in L2 box
[11:37] {magoo} hm..i not getting quotes on it
[11:38] {Threei} wierd
[11:38] {Chaeron} yeah, me too magoo
[11:38] {Chaeron} just another way the man is keeping me down........
[11:38] {dino} aks stopped .36 -.28
[11:48] {dino} apol off of .00 l
[11:48] {dino} ok, stop .69
[11:49] {dptl} moving stop to b/e xlf
[11:49] {dino} gtiv
[11:51] {bruce} crox dropping dino
[11:51] {Threei} where did you place original one dp?
[11:51] {Threei} .39 or .44?
[11:51] {dptl} ..39
[11:52] {Threei} BABY
[11:52] {Threei} HEARING RUMORS OF POSITIVE FDA RULING
[11:53] {dino} earning tonight
[11:53] {dino} crox
[11:56] {Threei} 1:1 for dp
[11:56] {dptl} ye out ty
[11:57] {Threei} :)
[12:00] {bruce} onxx may break out here
[12:00] {dino} hope so l from .60
[12:01] {bruce} nice entry dino
[12:02] {dino} lucky
[12:04] {Threei} CEGE nears Fri high 2.85
[12:05] {dino} crox sm l .10 stop lod
[12:05] {Threei} 2.75 nearest support, probably worth a try for a quick scalp at .86
[12:05] {Threei} especially if not losing .80 anymore
[12:06] {bruce} bidu long dino?
[12:08] {dino} not touching it, ask magoo
[12:08] {dptl} l.87 cege
[12:09] * Threei slaps Laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:10] * magoo slaps Laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:10] * Chaeron slaps Laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:10] * Laserdave1 slaps Laserdave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:13] {Threei} my patience is at its limit, out XLF +.14
[12:15] {dptl} stop on cege under .80 now?
[12:15] {magoo} u take CEGE vad?
[12:15] {Threei} yeah
[12:15] {Threei} yeah
[12:15] {Threei} market sharp downtick
[12:15] {bruce} cge stop .79?
[12:16] {Threei} [12:15] {dptl} stop on cege under .80 now?
[12:16] {Threei} [12:15] {Threei} yeah
[12:16] {Chaeron} such enthusiasm! :)
[12:17] {dino} apol stopped
[12:20] {dino} ustr
[12:20] {magoo} where u waiting vad cege?
[12:21] {Threei} I don't have target
[12:21] {Threei} will see how it trades
[12:21] {Threei} want sharp spike
[12:21] {Threei} makes new highs so far
[12:23] {Threei} with 6 cents risk, I just don't feel like I have to worry about it too much
[12:26] {dptl} out .93
[12:26] {Threei} dp is determined to squeze any single cent market gives today :)
[12:26] {dptl} pretty much....:)
[12:27] {dino} dp is the man
[12:28] {dptl} those sizes .95 .96 .97
[12:28] {bruce} crox may be setting up for ong here dino
[12:28] {dino} onxx stop to .18
[12:28] {dptl} now they gone
[12:32] {dino} in it bruce at .10
[12:33] {dino} onxx stop to .39
[12:34] {dino} onxx to .48
[12:36] {dino} out onxx .48,
[12:36] {dino} +.88
[12:36] {Threei} nice
[12:36] {bruce} nice dino
[12:36] {dino} ty, needed one
[12:46] {Threei} sold half CEGE .98
[12:49] {Threei} 3 break is in order
[12:50] {Threei} solidly over 1:1 guys, decide for yourself
[12:50] {Threei} I'll try for 3.10
[12:56] {bruce} dino - ustr
[13:00] {Threei} *FEB NAHB HOUSING MARKET INDEX: 20 V 19E
- no revision to prior 19
[13:00] {Threei} - Home buyer traffic at 7 month high
[13:02] {Threei} my stop is .84 for the balance
[13:04] {Threei} out
[13:14] {dino} ustr l .70, stop .29
[13:28] {bruce} alxn dino
[13:29] {Threei} ZEUS goes to the top of Olympus
[13:30] {cosmo} that 's not fresh...
[13:32] {Threei} no... and hey, bad puns is my specialty
[13:35] {cosmo} its Art
[13:36] {Threei} wow XLF
[13:37] {Threei} we nailed trend reversal exactly...
[13:37] {Chaeron} Just heard over the wires that there is a fertilizer shortage..... in an election year???????
[13:38] {cosmo} its being horded maybe
[13:38] {Threei} hmmm
[13:38] {Threei} is your idea of connection betwen election and fertilizer what think it is?
[13:38] {Chaeron} I'll report... you decide :)
[13:39] {cosmo} nurturing new ideas?
[13:39] {cosmo} change?
[13:39] {cosmo} nah...
[13:39] {Chaeron} heheh
[13:40] {Threei} gosh... VRSI is in reseller pact with Nortel
[13:40] {Threei} looking at VRSO, can't help but think, Nortel's business is in more troubles than I could ever suspect
[13:48] {Threei} POT
[13:48] {Threei} CEO: CONSIDERED BUYING ITSELF OUT AFTER PRICE DROP IN JANUARY; EARNINGS WILL BE "MUCH STRONGER THIS YEAR" - WIRE CITING INTERVIEW COMMENTS
- Sees famine this year if crops fail in a major region.
[13:48] {Threei} - Sees extended period of high fertilizer demand.
[13:49] {Threei} famine?
[13:52] {Threei} MON
[13:52] {Threei} 120 break looks compelling
[13:52] {Threei} stop would be .75
[13:52] {Threei} a bit jumpy
[13:53] {Threei} keep size reasonable
[13:56] {Raven}
3 back ... rofl Chaeron ... fertilizer ...
[13:56] {Threei} ok... Raven sees what I see in that comment :)
[13:56] {Chaeron} thanks Raven... :)
[13:56] {Raven}
3 np
[13:56] {Raven}
3 thx to cosmo too
[13:57] {Threei} SEED is famine stock too?
[13:57] {Raven}
3 is there famine in the country now too ... along with everything else ??
[13:57] {Threei} so they say
[13:58] {dino} there is what there is
[13:58] {bruce} alxn possible reversal near here dino
[13:58] {dino} crox stopped .16 +.06
[13:58] {Raven}
3 thx dino :)
[13:58] {dino} np raven...i do what i can do
[13:59] {Raven}
3 I see that ... good job
[14:00] {dino} of course, i see what i see too
[14:00] {dino} cpla l sm .90
[14:00] {Raven}
3 calm down
[14:01] {dino} ok...but i'll gladly pay you on tuesday for a hamburger today
[14:01] {Raven}
3 you are losing it ...
[14:02] {dino} the markets are turning my mind to mush buddy\
[14:02] {Threei} MON turns into bounce play, 119 closest support
[14:02] {Raven}
3 a walk in the cold perhaps ?
[14:03] -} *services* REGISTER _fastchocho karnez77
[14:03] {dino} going to hit the bowflex
[14:03] {Raven}
3 maybe shovel some slush ?
[14:04] {dino} all gone, just cold
[14:04] {Raven}
3 nice
[14:04] {Raven}
3 fuc**** winter wonderland
[14:05] {dino} yeah, only about 20 f here
[14:05] {Raven}
3 18.7F here with more snow ... endless snow
[14:06] {Raven}
3 down to around zero tonight
[14:06] {patience} hot day here yesterday, right vad?
[14:06] {dino} about 8 last night
[14:06] * Raven slaps patience around a bit with a large trout
[14:06] {dino} won't matter in 2 weeks
[14:06] {patience} its true.....joggers wearing shorts now
[14:06] {Raven}
3 oh sigh
[14:07] {Threei} it is
[14:08] {Threei} I had jacket on yesterday for 7miles walk, on the way back didn't know how to get rid of it
[14:08] {Raven}
3 arghhh
[14:11] {dino} apol
[14:11] {dino} oh mann, my 2 mile wallk at 7:30, had parka, scarf, sweatshirt, insulated socks, sneakers, and heavy hat
[14:12] {Threei} my past... firly put behind my back
[14:12] {Threei} never again
[14:12] {Threei} didn't catch MON
[14:12] {Raven}
3 my walk did not even occur
[14:14] {dino} if i wasn't at the bus stop w/kids, mine wouldn't either, but since i'm out there...
[14:15] {Raven}
3 sounds dreadful
[14:15] {cosmo} back... had to walk the dogs
[14:16] {dino} clears the head tho
[14:16] {Raven}
3 teach them to use a litter box
[14:16] {cosmo} they have a yard
[14:17] {cosmo} well fertalized..
[14:17] {Raven}
3 fertilized ?
[14:17] {Threei} no famine in cosmo's yard
[14:18] {Raven}
3 and cosmo can't step out there
[14:18] {Raven}
3 without stepping in
[14:18] {cosmo} sow bugs do the trick
[14:18] {Raven}
3 dung beetles ?
[14:19] {cosmo} hmmm...faxsimili
[14:19] {Raven}
3 another continent
[14:20] {cosmo} facsimile then
[14:20] {Raven}
3 better
[14:24] {cosmo} i'll have to get a good picture sometime... nothing on google
[14:25] {dino} hurn smacked
[14:37] {Threei} OK, where is promised bull market?
[14:38] {Threei} watching RIMM for bounce play
[14:39] {Threei} missed near 94
[14:39] {Threei} not chasing
[14:41] {Threei} in this time
[14:41] {Threei} stop under 94
[14:41] {Threei} questionable market here
[14:42] {Threei} hard to tell bounce time or one more leg down
[14:42] {magoo} where u in?
[14:42] {Threei} .15
[14:42] {magoo} .20
[14:43] {Threei} nope
[14:43] {Threei} another selloff
[14:43] {Threei} looking for better entry
[14:45] {dino} ustr stopped .29 -.41
[14:46] {Threei} still doesn't feel ready
[14:48] {Threei} OK, .70
[14:48] {Threei} .59 stop
[14:48] {Threei} half out
[14:49] {Threei} _.25
[14:49] {Threei} +.25
[14:49] {Threei} stop .69
[14:49] {bruce} apol may find support near 65 dino
[14:49] {dino} sm wide hurn l .46
[14:49] {dino} never thought it would get therewatching apol
[14:50] {Threei} BIDS FOR GM BUILDING IN NYC "OVER $3B", WOULD BE HIGHEST PRICE EVER FOR US BUILDING
[14:50] {Threei} Chaeron, you sure you need such big office?
[14:50] {Chaeron} expansion is key :)
[14:50] {Threei} sure... but still
[14:51] {Threei} cleaning bill must be staggering
[14:51] {Chaeron} have a corner office with yours and Raven's name on it
[14:51] {dino} location huh chaer?
[14:51] {Threei} out balance RIMM b/e
[14:51] {Chaeron} dino and mags too :)
[14:52] {Threei} want dive under .50
[14:52] {dino} pretyy good selloff
[14:52] {bruce} ustr breaking lod
[14:54] {Threei} held .50... OK, pullback then to establish double bottom
[14:56] {Threei} in
[14:56] {dino} hurn stop to .86
[14:56] {Threei} .74
[14:56] {Raven}
3 lol
[14:57] {Threei} a bit far from support but doesn't look like better pullback is in cards
[14:57] {dino} out +.37, slip to .83
[14:57] {dino} solars getting hit
[14:58] {dino} apol good call bruce
[14:58] {magoo} your in rimm .74 vad?
[14:58] {Threei} yes
[14:59] {Threei} not delighted by stop size, if you got better price good for you
[14:59] {dino} lod held ustr, maybe good entry area
[14:59] {Threei} ugh
[15:00] {dino} nah ustr
[15:01] {dino} ok, there's our 200 pt range dji
[15:02] {dino} back in 10
[15:03] {Threei} pattern of late day rug pull is back
[15:04] {Threei} bounce time, now or never
[15:14] {dino} ustr l sm .90
[15:17] {Threei} in RIMM for another bounce
[15:17] {Threei} .65 stop
[15:17] {Threei} not veru confident
[15:17] {Threei} market is shaky
[15:18] {dino} ya think?????
[15:18] {Threei} out +.29
[15:18] {dino} nice
[15:18] {dino} ctct
[15:25] {dptl} .
[15:26] {Threei} maybe one more drop
[15:26] {dino} hurn sm l .05
[15:26] {Threei} RIMM short
[15:26] {Threei} ugh, late a little
[15:26] {Threei} into this bounce
[15:27] {Threei} stop above .90
[15:28] {Threei} dies NQ
[15:28] {Threei} -s
[15:29] {Threei} that was an instruction, not a statement
[15:29] {magoo} i had call, u in anything vad here?
[15:29] {Threei} RIMM short .80
[15:31] {Threei} shhh
[15:31] {Threei} missed cover while typed
[15:31] {Threei} out +.24
[15:32] {Threei} about 10 cents initial stop on RIMM{ it doesn't get better than this
[15:39] {Threei} looking for long now
[15:39] {Threei} if holding .50
[15:39] {magoo} where?
[15:39] {Threei} .70
[15:40] {Threei} stop under .50
[15:40] {magoo} crap, only 100 filled
[15:41] {Threei} labored trade
[15:43] {Threei} out +.25
[15:58] {Threei} missed this last selloff, couldn't find any indication for an entry
[15:58] {dino} out cpla -.26
[16:00] {dino} oui ustr .04,
[16:00] {dino} .14
[16:00] {Threei} thank you all
[16:00] {dptl} have a good evening all
[16:00] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[16:00] {Threei} for either bear or bull market
[16:00] {Threei} roll a dice
[16:01] {dino} crox .45 vs est .44
