November 30, 2007

Session Start: Fri Nov 30 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Fri Nov 30 00:00:00 2007

[05:57] {cosmo} OVTI
[05:58] {cosmo} OmniVision Technologies 2Q Earnings Rise
[05:58] {cosmo} AP (Thu 5:52pm)
[05:58] {cosmo} OmniVision Expects 3Q Earnings Will Rise
[05:58] {cosmo} AP (Thu 6:03pm)
[06:00] {Threei} just so you know:
[06:00] {Threei} SAUDI OIL MINISTER: OIL PRICE IS DETERMINED BY THE MARKET
[06:00] {Threei} there... wisdom for the day
[06:00] {Threei} good morning
[06:01] {cosmo} SOLF's market?
[06:02] {BillyD} the mkt is forced when I have to pay 3.00 per gallon or not drive
[06:02] {BillyD} good morning :)
[06:03] {Threei} 87 years old wrote a letter to local paper (and it was published), saying:
[06:03] {Threei} don't you all understand, in order to stop global warming and save the planet we have to ban all theprivate cars immediately
[06:04] {cosmo} he needs to grow up...
[06:04] {Threei} if that's necessary attribute of the age, I hope to expire before 85
[06:04] {BillyD} I know see what is really happening now
[06:04] {BillyD} cosmo ...lol
[06:04] {cosmo} :)
[06:04] {Threei} good one
[06:05] {Threei} be back in 5
[06:07] {cosmo} SOLF pre mkt high = 17.20 fwiw
[06:08] {magoo} morning RT
[06:09] {BillyD} magoo :)
[06:09] {BillyD} welcome back
[06:10] {esemde} morning......
[06:11] {esemde} magoo....
[06:11] {BillyD} ese :)
[06:11] {Threei} ese, magmeister :)
[06:13] {Threei} [XMSR] XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc Bear Stearns analyst says DOJ decision on merger may be imminent
[06:13] {Threei} - Upside/Downside. Upon a positive announcement, we expect both the stocks to appreciate - our analysis suggests XM at $20 and SIRI at $4.50. On the downside, XM could decline to high single digits as investors look for visibility into strategy, and potentially, mgmt transition. SIRI could decline to ~$3.
[06:14] {Threei} all bases are covered eh?
[06:14] {BillyD} sounds like Fed commentary
[06:14] {Threei} lumdus, look dcc please
[06:14] {esemde} morning Vad.....am distracted here.......was in a studio mixing a CD....of the High Sch R&B band...
[06:14] {Threei} today?? :)
[06:14] {cosmo} OVTI pre mkt high = 20.45 ...so far
[06:14] {esemde} listening to it it.....sounds great
[06:14] {dino} gm all
[06:14] {Threei} busy month for you...
[06:15] {Threei} dino :)
[06:15] {BillyD} hi dino
[06:15] {esemde} indeed
[06:15] {Threei} can I have a copy? :)
[06:15] {Threei} signed?
[06:15] {BillyD} ese are you a school teacher as well
[06:15] {esemde} yes...should be out in just over a week
[06:16] {esemde} yes billy
[06:16] {esemde} Band and mathematics
[06:16] {BillyD} cool
[06:16] {esemde} don't calculate winners as fast a Vad though
[06:16] {BillyD} so how do you find time to trade then
[06:17] {esemde} it's 6:oo am here. market opens at 6:30 ,,,start teaching at 9:00am
[06:17] {BillyD} gotcha
[06:18] {magoo} thanx for nice warm welcome
[06:18] {esemde} have 2 1/2 hrs
[06:18] {Threei} talk about utilizing the day to its fullest
[06:18] {Threei} how was it mags?
[06:18] {magoo} one more weelk eft of hunting, so still will be in and oyut
[06:18] {cosmo} ese... you gotta teach those kids to trade
[06:19] {magoo} very good time vad
[06:19] {magoo} i need to be outdoors
[06:19] {Threei} I am full of envy
[06:20] {magoo} especially since i've become this computer geek
[06:20] {Threei} hey, can you have double fun? one part for me
[06:20] {Threei} please?
[06:20] {Threei} I'll live vicariously through you
[06:20] {magoo} i party/play hard enough for both of us vad
[06:21] {Threei} thank you :)
[06:21] {magoo} i drank 3/4 bottlke stoli at dino's the other nite
[06:21] {magoo} figure half those shots for u
[06:21] {Threei} deal
[06:22] {Threei} I appreciate you sacrificing your own health for my fun sake
[06:22] {Threei} USD/CAD: FX CHARTISTS NOTES THAT PRICE ACTION SUGGESTING AN "OUTSIDE" MONTH ON CHARTS
[06:22] {Threei} I need translation...
[06:22] {Threei} those FX chartists speak unknown language
[06:22] {cosmo} 32 days?
[06:23] {Threei} I guess
[06:23] {cosmo} nah
[06:23] {Threei} or it was 13th month?
[06:23] {cosmo} ah
[06:23] {cosmo} there use to be one
[06:23] {cosmo} used
[06:25] {magoo} vad, u do the new laserdownload yet?
[06:26] {Threei} I did but I can't get this OMS module to work
[06:26] {Threei} not sure I need it... but was curious
[06:26] {Threei} will ask dave to find out what I am doing wrong
[06:26] {BillyD} it is for the stop orders right vad
[06:26] {Threei} the rest seems to be working as usual
[06:27] {Threei} that's what release notes say,
[06:27] {Threei} also, there should be access to Swiss Credit dark pools
[06:27] {BillyD} just what I been waiting for
[06:27] {esemde} all is right with the world...your basic christmas rally is under way....followed by appathy period christmas to new years...then market goes down the shi(you know whater) start of the year so that it has somewhere to go by the end of the years ho hum....
[06:28] {Threei} sorry, Credit Suisse dark polls
[06:28] {Threei} lol ese
[06:29] {Threei} my Laser shuts down when I try to summon OMS module
[06:29] {dino} frpt?
[06:29] {Threei} had troubling news
[06:29] {Threei} lemme find it
[06:30] {Threei} 08:41am [FRPT] Hearing negative comments at Friedman Billings
[06:31] {magoo} one helluva STOP systewm, just shot it down he he
[06:31] {magoo} what is "dark polls?
[06:31] {Threei} lol, I guess they took word stop too literally
[06:31] {Threei} pools
[06:31] {Threei} kind of hidden liquidity
[06:31] {Threei} orders that never show up
[06:32] {cosmo} like black ops?
[06:32] {Threei} but can be executed against if your system has access to those
[06:32] {Threei} usdually associated with additional cost
[06:32] {Threei} but may offer favorable prices
[06:32] {Threei} I'll find out more about this offering
[06:32] {Roman} solars
[06:32] {magoo} u watching CFC vad?
[06:33] {Threei} not as a rule...
[06:33] {Threei} one of those with deep issues
[06:34] {magoo} just, its a player today, BUT i way out of sinc, been away
[06:34] {Threei} ESLR
[06:34] {Threei} Roman has better read on this one
[06:35] {Roman} FCEL
[06:35] {Threei} if holding above 13.90, break is worth a try
[06:35] {Roman} long PLUG slow
[06:35] {esemde} SOLF as well
[06:35] {Threei} CSIQ had news about secondary
[06:35] {Threei} but holding strong still
[06:36] {Threei} [CSIQ] Canadian Solar Inc. To offer $75M in convertible notes due 2017
[06:36] {Threei} - $11.25M over-allotment
[06:37] {esemde} you'd think that would tank it
[06:40] {esemde} how do you interpret that Vad ...due 2017
[06:40] {Threei} I truly have no slightest idea
[06:40] {esemde} must expect stock price to go up...maybe....?
[06:40] {Threei} this stock still has a lot of fuel under it
[06:41] {Roman} long URRE
[06:41] {dino} yeah
[06:41] {Roman} small
[06:41] {Threei} unless whole attitude toward solars changes for some reason, it has a lot of upside
[06:41] {dino} and 2017, lots can happen
[06:41] {Threei} yeah, this kind of horizon renders news practically non-issue
[06:42] {Threei} I mean in a sense of worries that secondaries can create negative pressure
[06:42] {lumdus} 3i, are we in any position
[06:42] {Threei} not yet
[06:42] {Threei} Roman is
[06:43] {Threei} ESLR invalidated for now
[06:43] {Threei} TIVO is interesting
[06:43] {BillyD} yes
[06:43] {Threei} feels like prepares for another run
[06:43] {BillyD} I played off .50 for scalp
[06:43] {Threei} break worth a try, just remember its wierd sudden drops sometimes
[06:44] {Threei} if missed, don't chase
[06:44] {BillyD} it stalled I bailed
[06:44] {Threei} wait for pullback
[06:45] {Threei} CPSL
[06:45] {Threei} 5.60 long half lot
[06:45] {Threei} stop under 5.40
[06:47] {Threei} aggressive entry is an option for this one
[06:47] {dino} zumz
[06:47] {Threei} in fact preferrable
[06:47] {Threei} in .46
[06:47] {Threei} 5.34 stop
[06:47] {Threei} half lot
[06:48] {dino} hl s zumz .99, stop hod
[06:50] {Threei} stop to .39
[06:51] {Threei} want to keep it tight
[06:52] {Threei} out
[06:56] {Threei} watching NVDA for one more leg down and entry for bounce
[06:56] {dino} zumz stopped -.32
[06:57] {Threei} .25 long NVDA if holding above .15
[06:57] {bruce} jrcc l vad?
[06:58] {dino} zumz s hl .00
[06:58] {Threei} 1:1 NVDA, half out
[06:58] {magoo} in NVDA
[06:58] {BillyD} same here
[06:58] {BillyD} out 1/2
[06:58] {Threei} stop to .24
[06:58] {Threei} scalpers know what to do
[06:59] {Threei} JRCC trades by appointment bruce... no read
[06:59] {BillyD} lol
[06:59] {Roman} SEAC sqeezer
[06:59] {Roman} slow
[06:59] {Threei} NVDA is amazingly obeying this week
[06:59] {bruce} k
[06:59] {Roman} long SEAC 7.28
[07:00] {Roman} 1/3
[07:00] {Threei} gotta make sure we don't go to this well one too many times :)
[07:00] {bruce} nice quick play nvda
[07:00] {Threei} I don't think we got a single stop on it
[07:00] {Threei} and we played it quite a lot
[07:00] {dino} stopped again, done w/it
[07:01] {dino} frpt l .96
[07:01] {Roman} DRYS spike
[07:01] {BillyD} out rest NVDA thx Vad
[07:01] {lumdus} we get out nvda ?
[07:01] {Threei} me half lumdus
[07:01] {lumdus} oh, ok.. let me get some out here.
[07:02] {Roman} long EGLE
[07:02] {magoo} waiuting .54
[07:02] {Threei} [09:56] {Threei} 1:1 NVDA, half out
[07:02] {Threei} *OCT CONSTRUCTION SPENDING: -0.8% V -0.3%E
[07:02] {bruce} frpt ready to bounce?
[07:03] {Threei} ready for another spike NVDA
[07:03] {magoo} [10:01] {magoo} waiuting .54
[07:03] {Threei} I'd stay away from it bruce
[07:03] {Threei} come on NVDA, be a good boy
[07:04] {Threei} girl?
[07:04] {bruce} k vad
[07:04] {Threei} some stocks you know...
[07:04] {Threei} so full of it, they never met a toilet they couldn't overflow
[07:05] {Threei} FRPT feels like one of those to me
[07:05] {bruce} lol
[07:05] {Threei} markwet losing it
[07:06] {Threei} maybe let's trail NVDA to .29
[07:06] {BillyD} it looked ready to pop .50
[07:06] {Threei} this big red bar NQ killed the move
[07:06] {BillyD} yup
[07:06] {lumdus} ouch
[07:06] {BillyD} uncalled for
[07:07] {Threei} it has a chance to prove itself by holding .30
[07:07] {Threei} it does good,
[07:08] {Threei} no, so be it
[07:08] {Threei} we wanted bounce, we got it
[07:08] {BillyD} held well
[07:09] {Threei} yes, now needs NQ help
[07:09] {dino} rimm -3
[07:09] {dino} -4
[07:09] {Threei} or at least for NQ not to get in the way
[07:09] {Threei} RIMM had news
[07:10] {Threei} pipr lowered their 2009 estimates
[07:10] {dino} ty
[07:10] {Threei} some nonsense about mixed demand
[07:10] {dino} they had to get in
[07:10] {Threei} what's wrong with mixed demand, I don't know... you demand mix of vodka with beer, get it, drink it and drop; under the table happy
[07:11] {magoo} hey..u got a hidden camera on me?
[07:11] {Threei} lol, I knkew I would get your attention
[07:11] {Threei} lety' go NVDA
[07:11] {Threei} everything's in place
[07:12] {Threei} no hidden camera magster, I am just already under that same table
[07:13] {dino} rimm l .50
[07:13] {Threei} if NQ breaks 2115 we are golden... if loses 2110, all bets are off for NVDA
[07:14] {Threei} but gotta admit, it's doing all it can
[07:14] {Threei} not good NQ
[07:14] {lumdus} in esignal how can i see nq - what's the symbol ?
[07:14] {Threei} out NVDA
[07:15] {Threei} it should be some variaon of NQZ7 lumdus
[07:15] {Threei} could be with slash in front
[07:15] {_liranme} it is NQ Z7
[07:15] {_liranme} with a spce
[07:15] {_liranme} space
[07:15] {Threei} gotta ask provider, symbols are a little bit different
[07:16] {lumdus} liranme $NQ Z7 ?
[07:16] {_liranme} no
[07:16] {Threei} $ is for cash indexes
[07:16] {_liranme} just NQ Z7
[07:16] {_liranme} a spce after NQ
[07:17] {Threei} if you don't have NQ feed, use NDX
[07:17] {Threei} second best thing, and often just as good
[07:17] {magoo} use QQQQ
[07:17] {magoo} thats what i use
[07:17] {Threei} NDX should be something like $NDX or $NDX.X
[07:17] {Threei} thanks for help, liranme
[07:17] {lumdus} ok, i got ndx thank you
[07:18] {Threei} that'll do
[07:18] {Threei} NQ usually requires additional fee
[07:18] {Threei} no terrible need to pay it
[07:19] {dino} pspt
[07:19] {Threei} numbers that I cite as indficative levels for NQ will be a bit different for NDX,
[07:19] {lumdus} ok, thank you
[07:19] {Threei} but looking at the chart you will usually see the right level
[07:19] {BillyD} they are pretty close
[07:19] {Threei} I mean, it's just ranges
[07:19] {bruce} yhoo long?
[07:19] {Threei} no complicated math
[07:20] {Threei} YHOO, if pulls back a little first
[07:20] {Threei} like this
[07:20] {Threei} .21 long if holding above .15
[07:20] {Threei} just a scalp most likely
[07:21] {bruce} k
[07:21] {dino} s .00 pspt
[07:22] {BillyD} u calling YHOO Vad
[07:23] {dino} frpt stopped .68-.28
[07:23] {Threei} it wouldn't be my first choice billy... answering the question
[07:23] {BillyD} reason to ask :)
[07:23] {Threei} kind of... "worth a try, not horribly compelling"
[07:24] {BillyD} we need picky picky
[07:24] {Threei} should give a scalp... but overall, it's a bit narrow today
[07:24] {BillyD} VRSN off the 41 area for bounce maybe
[07:24] {Threei} would require really sizeable NQ move
[07:27] {bruce} you like horrible vad?
[07:27] {bruce} lol
[07:27] {Threei} I prefer terrible
[07:27] {Threei} but will settle
[07:28] {bruce} k - that clarifies things
[07:30] {dino} pspt bstop to .76
[07:30] {dino} out +.24
[07:31] {Threei} nice catch
[07:31] {Threei} I missed it
[07:33] {Threei} CAD just lost parity
[07:34] {magoo} 100 sh bidu long 390
[07:36] {magoo} stopped _2.50
[07:36] {magoo} thats why only 100 shares
[07:37] {magoo} need a wider stop he he
[07:37] {BillyD} NVDA approaching .50
[07:39] {BillyD} thoughts on NVDA Vad...if NQ jumps ?
[07:39] {magoo} i like it billy
[07:39] {magoo} IF naz goes
[07:39] {Threei} if it';s a big sudden green bar and NVDA gives a delay for entry
[07:40] {BillyD} ok
[07:40] {Threei} it didn't even want to wait
[07:40] {BillyD} I tried but too late
[07:40] {BillyD} was looking for green bar
[07:41] {Threei} it will pull back now most likely
[07:41] {Threei} not sure about the play here
[07:41] {Threei} changes behaviour vs what we saw last several days
[07:41] {Threei} gotta observe and re-adjust
[07:44] {BillyD} SOLF looks to tes hod
[07:44] {BillyD} crazy moves
[07:47] {BillyD} NVDA just not showing it's hand completely for me
[07:47] {BillyD} is strong
[07:51] {Threei} I wish LUNA had better volume
[07:51] {Threei} with this daily chart I'd be all over 8.50 break
[07:52] {BillyD} one cast too many eh
[07:52] {BillyD} if you took LUNA
[07:53] {BillyD} Vad...any feel for SOLF as a player
[07:54] {Threei} feels like a player... cand find the play itself for now
[07:54] {BillyD} ok...what I meant
[07:54] {Threei} 17 break is obvious, but its volatility makes it a tough cal;l
[07:54] {BillyD} tough to read it w/ reducing alot of risk
[07:55] {BillyD} maybe if shallow PB then break
[07:55] {BillyD} too late
[07:55] {Threei} if it didn't break this time, would be better read on the next try
[07:56] {BillyD} agree
[07:56] {Threei} see?
[07:56] {BillyD} yes
[07:58] {magoo} NVDA here vad?
[07:59] {Threei} not sure
[07:59] {cosmo} ... maybe Bernie needs to say something
[07:59] {Threei} it has different feel to it today
[07:59] {magoo} k
[08:00] {magoo} need bernie to say "i am fully invested in market here" he he
[08:00] {Threei} well, half lot SOLF 17 break
[08:00] {Threei} stop under .80
[08:02] {magoo} in solf .95
[08:02] {magoo} wait .29
[08:03] {Threei} 1:1 SOLF
[08:03] {magoo} drats .28 prints
[08:03] {BillyD} out thx Vad
[08:03] {Threei} welcome
[08:04] {magoo} out .2o TY vad
[08:04] {Threei} :)
[08:04] {BillyD} stock make ya nervous
[08:04] {Threei} yeah, SOLF has this "feature"
[08:05] {BillyD} u know it has potential to go...but dances a bit to make be happy 1:1
[08:05] {BillyD} Romans kind
[08:06] {Threei} with all this mad dancing around, we hit it just right as far as I am cincerned
[08:06] {Threei} cuaght the wave
[08:07] {BillyD} yes...not too greedy but still opportunistic
[08:07] {magoo} wow,,insightful billy : )
[08:07] {BillyD} :)
[08:08] {bruce} algn - any read vad?
[08:10] {Threei} impressive strength...
[08:10] {Threei} let's see how it's holding during this another red leg in the market
[08:11] {Threei} if stays above 16.95, will be worth try on a break
[08:11] {dino} seac s hl .71, stop .04
[08:11] {Threei} if breaks no matter what market does I'll stay away
[08:11] {Threei} too high chance of a trap
[08:11] {Threei} and being that thin, trap could be nasty
[08:13] {Threei} NVDA off 33
[08:13] {Threei} 32.99 stop
[08:13] {magoo} u in already?
[08:13] {Threei} no, missed while typed
[08:14] {Threei} lol
[08:14] {Threei} maybe double bottom if retreats once again
[08:14] {Threei} don't want to chase
[08:15] {magoo} solf holds 17 now..not in
[08:16] {dino} s hl dptr .37, stop .52
[08:16] {bruce} thanx vad
[08:16] {Threei} here is retreat, watch NQ for quidance on NVDA, they reconnected again
[08:17] {Threei} in .05
[08:17] {Threei} .99 stop
[08:18] {magoo} in .08
[08:19] {Threei} out
[08:19] {Threei} NQ elected not to hold double bottom
[08:19] {BillyD} NDX didn't really give a signal for me
[08:19] {Threei} it paused at support just enough to fool
[08:20] {BillyD} hada one eye on NDX and one on NVDA....really need a third
[08:20] {magoo} yeah..out
[08:21] {Threei} XMSR
[08:27] {lumdus} xmsr nice gap, maybe wait for a pullback if ever
[08:27] {dino} hrbn s hl .42, stop .66
[08:30] {BillyD} not sure if NVDA in sync w/ NQ at this pt
[08:31] {BillyD} seems to be at moment
[08:32] {Threei} I really wanted to call XMSR at .23 and didn't find guts
[08:32] {Threei} with market getting redder by minute
[08:32] {BillyD} yes.....tough
[08:37] {dino} rudolf moment
[08:37] {Threei} the reinder?
[08:38] {dino} yes, redder by the minute
[08:38] {Threei} it's official - I am a whimp on XMSR
[08:38] {lumdus} out xmsr here.. enought for one day
[08:38] {BillyD} lol...that hurts
[08:39] {lumdus} +.35
[08:39] {Threei} good job
[08:39] {BillyD} gj
[08:40] {lumdus} tx to you
[08:42] {bruce} nvda staging that reversal now?
[08:42] {Threei} I am dropping it bruce
[08:42] {Threei} time to give it some rest, it was very readable for a week,
[08:43] {bruce} k
[08:43] {Threei} but as I said this morning, it had to be over very soon
[08:43] {Threei} superimpose its chart with NQ
[08:44] {Threei} while there was ideal match last days, today is different
[08:44] {Threei} you'll see divergences
[08:44] {Threei} without leading indicator this one is tough
[08:44] {bruce} got you
[08:46] {bruce} any thoughts on rimm? 115 break?
[08:47] {Threei} RIMM is too hot for me today
[08:48] {Threei} I pick my battles
[08:48] {dino} toughy today
[08:48] {Threei} this is not the one I want to fight
[08:48] {bruce} yes dino
[08:48] {bruce} I'm treading water today
[08:49] {dino} penx
[08:50] {dino} need a bottom
[08:50] {bruce} damn - I hate xmsr
[08:53] {dino} l hl .50
[08:54] {bruce} xide vad
[08:55] {bruce} scraqtch it - not enough range
[08:56] {Threei} OK I give up... XMSR will never stop
[08:56] {Threei} ever
[08:56] {Threei} it will just go and go
[08:56] {magoo} i could stop it
[08:56] {bruce} yes vad
[08:56] {bruce} leaving us to mourn
[08:56] {BillyD} lol magoo
[08:57] {bruce} lol
[08:57] {bruce} only I have that power mags
[08:57] {magoo} :)
[08:57] {bruce} not planning to exercise it
[08:57] {bruce} xmsr is poc
[08:58] {bruce} not looking any more
[08:58] {bruce} hall vad?
[08:58] {BillyD} there will be another one bruce
[08:58] {Threei} 40 K volume. HALL...
[08:58] {bruce} you bet billy
[09:02] {bruce} guess thats not good
[09:02] {bruce} sorry vad
[09:02] {bruce} desperate suggestion of a desperate trader
[09:02] {bruce} course -
[09:02] {Threei} gosh...
[09:02] {bruce} we could corner market in it
[09:02] {Threei} day after day we run at 80-100%
[09:04] {bruce} xmsr is finally pausing
[09:06] {dino} penx stop to .97
[09:06] {dino} out +.47
[09:07] {BillyD} wtg dino
[09:07] {Threei} cool beans
[09:07] {dino} ty, a bit better today
[09:07] {esemde} hey all...have a great weekend.....
[09:07] {bruce} congrats dino
[09:07] {BillyD} cya ese
[09:07] {bruce} see you ese
[09:07] {_liranme} What about short in XMSR ?
[09:07] {bruce} same to you
[09:08] {dino} u2 ese
[09:09] {Threei} can't pinpoint down short entry on it liranme
[09:09] {Threei} it's still uptrending
[09:10] {lumdus} you could lose your shirt like that ..
[09:11] {lumdus} rimm get a big hit again
[09:12] {Threei} hot potato
[09:12] {Threei} too hot for my hands
[09:14] {dino} potaaaato or patato
[09:15] {Threei} told ya XMSR will never stop
[09:16] {bruce} lol- just waiting for you to buy vad
[09:16] {Threei} me?
[09:16] {Threei} why would I want to spoil best month of the year on its last day
[09:18] {Chaeron} just run out the clock buddy :)
[09:18] {bruce} any thoughts nbix?
[09:18] {BillyD} take a knee
[09:18] {Chaeron} heheheh
[09:19] {bruce} forget it - its dumping
[09:19] {Threei} NBIX, if holding above .60... but don't count on much
[09:19] {dino} penx again
[09:21] {dino} seac bstop to ,.41
[09:22] {dino} cov +.30
[09:22] {BillyD} ESLR potential short idea....but it's nature cause hesitation
[09:22] {lumdus} in nvls 26.05 stop 25.99
[09:23] {bruce} taking a break
[09:23] {bruce} back in 30
[09:25] {dino} penx hl l .23
[09:28] {magoo} jesus..dow gonna go red
[09:29] {dino} hrbn bstop to .18
[09:31] {dino} make it .04
[09:31] {dino} penx stop to .64
[09:32] {dino} out penx +.39
[09:33] {dino} hrbn to .97
[09:34] {Threei} 15.79 short XMSR if stays under .90
[09:34] {Threei} if breaks it, look for entry closer to 16
[09:35] {Roman} PEIX
[09:35] {Threei} with stop above 16
[09:35] {Roman} PEIX & MGPI radar
[09:35] {magoo} don't short entry until i go long...then hit it
[09:39] {dino} dptr bstop to b/e
[09:39] {dino} not thrilled w/it
[09:41] {BillyD} Vad...did I mess up shorting XMSR at .79 since it barely went over .90
[09:42] {dino} stopped/cov. hbrn .95, +.47
[09:42] {Threei} hard to tell... just keep stop at .91
[09:42] {BillyD} ok
[09:45] {Threei} 1:1
[09:46] {BillyD} out most
[09:46] {Threei} :)
[09:46] {BillyD} ty
[09:53] {BillyD} out rest thx again
[09:54] {Threei} good job
[09:54] {Threei} 1:2
[09:54] {dino} gj bd
[09:54] {BillyD} ty...probably has to .50 area
[09:54] {magoo} nice one vad, out here .61
[09:54] {dino} bwld and rrst spikey
[09:54] {Threei} mags :)
[09:56] {lumdus} nvls go now already dammi
[09:57] {Threei} want me to kick it?
[09:58] {lumdus} yes, please
[10:01] {lumdus} 3i, you kick 2 pennies.. i am talking .80
[10:02] {BillyD} rflol
[10:04] {Threei} ah forgive me for not instilling as much vioelnce as you would like
[10:04] {Threei} I am mostly peaceful prson, I kick stocks and people for fun only
[10:04] {magoo} violence??
[10:04] {Threei} (well, my idea of fun may need some revision of course)
[10:05] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[10:05] {Threei} see? fun starts
[10:05] {Threei} now I can see magster is back
[10:06] {magoo} felt good
[10:06] {Threei} I have no doubt
[10:13] {magoo} vads XMSR short loss .50 w/market tank
[10:13] {magoo} ?
[10:14] {Threei} kind of 50/50
[10:14] {Threei} market can easily bounce off 2090
[10:15] {BillyD} Vad..on a positive note people liked you this week
[10:16] {Threei} it amounts to cruel and unusual punishment in my book, Billy
[10:16] {Threei} I am more comfortable being disliked
[10:16] {BillyD} you're twisted
[10:16] {magoo} out her 1:1
[10:16] {BillyD} lol
[10:16] {BillyD} I try to be nice ...and noooo
[10:17] {BillyD} wtg magoo
[10:17] {magoo} i took his 50/50
[10:17] {Threei} :)
[10:17] {magoo} exit was .36
[10:20] {lumdus} starting to like nvls more, a break of .20 and i think we off to the races.
[10:21] {Threei} we better... my foot is numb of all the kicking
[10:21] {magoo} soak it in vodka vad
[10:22] {Threei} can't
[10:22] {Threei} some wierd disalignment in action: every time I try to pour vodka on any body part, it somehow ends up in my throat
[10:26] {dino} hl l penx .75
[10:28] {magoo} good problem too have
[10:39] {BillyD} SOLF keepshanging around
[10:39] {BillyD} 17.69 is 52 wk high
[10:44] {bruce} fsnm vad
[10:46] {Threei} these 100-200 shares sizes...
[10:46] {Threei} dunno... trades a bit randomly
[10:47] {bruce} k
[10:47] {bruce} I like pattern but volumes a bit low - thanks for read
[10:50] {magoo} XMSR vad?
[10:51] {Threei} if puylls back closer to .50, long will be interesting
[10:58] {Threei} .56 was the lowest it went
[10:58] {Threei} wasn't easy to get it there
[11:04] {lumdus} you xmsr make a run for HOD ?
[11:04] {Threei} I'd be very surprized if it does
[11:05] {lumdus} ok, then i stay away from it.. to much noise and no movement in PM session today.
[11:06] {Threei} that about sums it up
[11:07] {BillyD} mkt drop
[11:17] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE: ECONOMY IS SOUND, BUT WANTS TO MAKE SURE IT HAS 'BULWARK' AGAINST HOUSING WOES - WIRE HEADLINE- Reiterates Bush opposes using taxpayer money for housing bailout
[11:18] {Threei} i am with him on this one
[11:18] {bruce} brcm short?
[11:19] {Threei} to me, on bounce only
[11:19] {Threei} around .15 area
[11:20] {bruce} k
[11:22] {dino} nstk
[11:23] {Threei} nothing fresh
[11:25] {dino} hayn
[11:26] {dino} morn
[11:28] {Threei} bruce... Environment Canada predicts the coldest winter of the last 15 years
[11:29] {bruce} nice
[11:29] {bruce} keeps mosquitos down
[11:29] {Threei} yeah... but how about global warming
[11:30] {bruce} gives them polar bears a break
[11:30] {bruce} I say pass the wodka
[11:30] {bruce} or maybe sake would bebetter?
[11:30] {cosmo} global warming would be offset
[11:31] {cosmo} like a counter measure
[11:31] {Threei} sigh... LUNA
[11:32] {bruce} what about it vad?
[11:32] {bruce} levle 2 looks real thin in it
[11:32] {Threei} [10:49] {Threei} I wish LUNA had better volume
[11:32] {Threei} [10:49] {Threei} with this daily chart I'd be all over 8.50 break
[11:33] {bruce} there we go
[11:33] {bruce} not enough volume
[11:35] {dino} out penx -.08
[11:36] {cosmo} tivo
[11:37] {cosmo} teasing again
[11:37] {bruce} thoughs on bwld breakvad?
[11:38] {Threei} just one:
[11:39] {Threei} skip it
[11:39] {bruce} lol
[11:39] {magoo} ok, ty vad, everyone
[11:39] {bruce} skip skiip skipping
[11:39] {magoo} going
[11:39] {magoo} hunting again
[11:39] {Threei} take care magoo, have a good weekend
[11:39] {BillyD} have a good one magoo
[11:39] {magoo} be in sporadic next week
[11:39] {Threei} when are you back?
[11:39] {bruce} bye mags
[11:39] {Threei} ok :)
[11:40] {bruce} have a great hunt
[11:40] {dino} fsin
[11:41] {bruce} luna s at 9 now vad
[11:41] {bruce} not that we care
[11:42] {dino} cov dptr +.04
[11:42] {dino} doesn't move
[11:46] {BillyD} raining here ...forst time in some while
[11:46] {BillyD} first
[11:47] {bruce} want some adrenaline vad?
[11:47] {bruce} could try jrjc
[11:47] {cosmo} get ready for lush green savanas, BD
[11:47] {BillyD} lol
[11:47] {BillyD} brown becomes green overnight
[11:48] {cosmo} global warming is key
[11:54] {dino} zolt
[11:59] {dino} ugh, missed it
[12:00] {BillyD} not for the faint of heart
[12:01] {dino} buck and a half
[12:01] {dino} cmcsa
[12:03] {BillyD} cmcsk as well
[12:04] {BillyD} same company it seems
[12:05] {Threei} yeah, it's some kind of diff classes of shares for the company
[12:06] {BillyD} think XMSR anything on short side .40 support is drawback
[12:08] {Threei} FED'S KROSZNER: NEED FOR SPEED ON SUBPRIME SOLUTIONS - Q&A SESSION
[12:08] {Threei} SENATE BANKING CHAIRMAN DODD OFFERS TO WORK WITH TREASURY'S PAUSLON ON MORTGAGE CRISIS - WIRE HEADLINE- Dodd urges efforts to reduce foreclosures, make home ownership sustainable
[12:14] {bruce} markets really dumped
[12:16] {bruce} should we be expecting a bounce aro0und here vad?
[12:16] {Threei} toughie... dartboard
[12:16] {bruce} k
[12:16] {dino} risky, l zolt .10
[12:17] {bruce} brcm iddn't quite make its retreacement short entry
[12:17] {bruce} would have been a nice one
[12:23] {dino} penx l .64
[12:24] {BillyD} hard to follow these moves
[12:24] {BillyD} w/ NQ
[12:26] {lumdus} maybe time for a little short here.
[12:27] {dino} meoh
[12:28] {lumdus} 3i, like the comment of dartboard here. maybe just time to pakc it in
[12:28] {Threei} I guess
[12:29] {BillyD} the short was the gamble under last support of NQ
[12:30] {lumdus} maybe hang out and watch a little longer. can't expect much from this
[12:35] {dino} stopped zolt -.45
[12:38] {bruce} that sucks dino
[12:39] {bruce} sounds like you had a good day overall though
[12:39] {dino} yes, a little under goal, thx
[12:40] {bruce} good
[12:40] {dino} ty
[12:41] {bruce} you trade the 2 weeks during traditional chstismas break vad?
[12:42] {Threei} if there is tradeable setup, if i have a read,.... sure
[12:42] {bruce} k
[12:46] {Threei} I'll call it a day guys
[12:46] {BillyD} thx for great week Vad
[12:46] {Threei} thank you aall, have a great relaxing weekend'
[12:46] {dino} what a reversal on dow
[12:47] {bruce} just thought the same dino
[12:47] {Threei} I'll see you on Monday
[12:47] {bruce} see a bunch of stocks with big green moves
[12:47] {bruce} thanx vad
[12:47] {_liranme} Thanks Vad
[12:48] {Threei} welcome guys
[12:48] {Threei} too bad this month is over
[12:48] {Threei} I loved it :)
[12:48] {dino} up until this week i loved it
[12:48] {dino} still was my best of year
[12:49] {BillyD} Vaad...it's endless..u can keep prifiting monday as well
[12:49] {BillyD} profiting
[12:58] {bruce} have a good weekend all
[12:59] {dino} you too
[12:59] {dino} i'm cutting out too, thx all, back on monday

November 29, 2007

Session Start: Thu Nov 29 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Thu Nov 29 00:00:00 2007

[05:47] {bruce} gm all
[05:48] {BillyD} bruce :)
[05:48] {bruce} billy
[05:59] {dino} gm all
[06:02] {bruce} hi dino
[06:04] {bruce} would think all this current volatility is great for your trading style now dino
[06:06] {dino} actually yesterday did not do well (no pullbacks), but the month of nov. was very good
[06:06] {Threei} Good morning folken
[06:07] {bruce} I remember lots of days when naz futures only did 12 -15 points
[06:07] {BillyD} dino, Vad :)
[06:07] {bruce} but 40 - 80 of late
[06:07] {Threei} Billy :)
[06:07] {bruce} hi vad
[06:07] {Threei} bruce :)
[06:08] {Threei} dino, just much fan can magoo have?
[06:08] {Threei} fun
[06:08] {bruce} lol - jealous vad?
[06:08] {Threei} very
[06:08] {dino} dk, thought he would be here today
[06:08] {Threei} :)
[06:08] {Threei} btw, funny thing
[06:09] {Threei} slow big climb days,
[06:09] {Threei} usually not good for your style,
[06:09] {Threei} and not good for mine
[06:09] {bruce} poor vad can't spend his nigerian millions cause hes committed to helping us newbies
[08:12] {Roman} long URRE small & slow
[08:12] {dino} zolt stopped -.32
[08:13] {bruce} any read eslr vad?
[08:14] {Threei} Roman called it earlier
[08:14] {Threei} he has better grip on these solar moves today
[08:14] {bruce} k
[08:15] {Roman} i am not sure at this point, i am sitting from 13.25
[08:15] {Roman} it just keeps moving higher slow which is good
[08:15] {BillyD} ONNN should go now if possible
[08:16] {BillyD} 80K blk
[08:16] {Roman} long PEIX boucning on daily, may keep swing
[08:16] {bruce} thanks roman
[08:16] {bruce} chart looked good but thought it might be near end ofmove
[08:18] {Roman} CTDC
[08:18] {Roman} long small
[08:18] {Roman} 5.65 area
[08:19] {Roman} out 1/2 CSUN +.46
[08:23] {Threei} market is ready for break
[08:24] {BillyD} .
[08:24] {Threei} needs to hold 2100 and break 2105
[08:25] {Threei} watching NVDA for long entry
[08:25] {Threei} closest support is.10
[08:27] {BillyD} re enter JADE .32...stop under .30
[08:27] {Threei} in
[08:28] {Threei} .09 stop
[08:28] {dino} flir bstop to .18
[08:29] {dino} stopped .19, +.39\
[08:30] {Threei} half out NVDA 1:1
[08:30] {Threei} NQ obliges
[08:31] {BillyD} I hesitated on it and then tried .21 too late
[08:31] {BillyD} gj
[08:31] {Threei} ah, better entry price... like to lure of siren's song... never what it promises to be yet qwho of us can resist it
[08:32] {dino} hl l flir .50
[08:33] {Threei} out in full NVDA
[08:33] {Threei} +.30
[08:35] {Threei} OPEC SHIPMENTS IN 4 WEEKS TO DEC 15 SEEN UP 0.48M BPD, OPEC UPHOLDING PLEDGE TO BRING FRESH OIL TO THE MARKET - WIRE CITES OIL TANKER TRACKER
[08:36] {Threei} does oil go sour?
[08:36] {bruce} zolt is really climbing
[08:37] {Threei} XING tries for 2 day's break
[08:37] {Threei} tough read, not sure
[08:38] {BillyD} out some ONNN here
[08:38] {esemde} have a great day all...
[08:39] {BillyD} cya ese
[08:39] {Threei} take care ese
[08:39] {Threei} great job with CSIQ today
[08:39] {dino} hl l sirf .27
[08:40] {bruce} bye ese
[08:40] {BillyD} ONNN new high
[08:40] {Threei} new high ONNN, believe it or not
[08:40] {BillyD} yahoo
[08:40] {Threei} I personally don't
[08:40] {Threei} out half
[08:41] {Threei} sharp downtich NQ
[08:41] {Threei} gotta secure it
[08:41] {BillyD} now you tell me lol
[08:44] {Threei} CAMD?
[08:44] {Threei} I don't see news
[08:45] {BillyD} me either
[08:46] {Threei} .76 another NVDA trigger, if stays above .65
[08:48] {Threei} 1:1 NVDA
[08:48] {BillyD} out ...only a 100 fill
[08:48] {BillyD} ty
[08:49] {Threei} out in full
[08:49] {Threei} .97
[08:50] {BillyD} nice
[08:51] {Threei} NVDA behaves much better than BRCM today
[08:51] {Threei} glad to make right choice betwen them
[08:51] {BillyD} yeah
[08:58] {dino} flir stopped
[08:59] {BillyD} out more ONNN here
[08:59] {dino} \sirf stopped flat
[09:01] {BillyD} out rest ONNN ty vad
[09:01] {Threei} welcome
[09:01] {Threei} what a torture
[09:02] {Threei} fooled me by being so perky yetsterday,
[09:02] {BillyD} yeah...but honestly chart looks good on daily
[09:02] {BillyD} who has the patience
[09:02] {Threei} and with strong market and important resistance break today I expected real continuation
[09:03] {BillyD} .47 area is daily resisitance
[09:03] {BillyD} it seems most my trades today been tortur trades
[09:14] {BillyD} notice how ONNN is holding
[09:19] {bruce} zolt inally looking weak dino
[09:20] {dino} ltre s hl .28
[09:20] {dino} tough one zolt'
[09:27] {dino} ltre stopped -.34
[09:27] {dino} taking a break
[09:30] {BillyD} out JADE .35 ....enough slowness for now
[09:31] {dino} teloz
[09:31] {BillyD} Vad..any read NVDA here
[09:32] {Threei} not at the moment
[09:32] {dino} l .67 teloz
[09:33] {BillyD} seems abit disconnected
[09:34] {bruce} arna - any read vad?
[09:35] {Threei} at this point it's ONNN's sibling
[09:36] {bruce} lol
[09:36] {bruce} sisters in torture
[09:41] {dino} teloz stopped .50 -.17
[09:44] {bruce} taking a break here
[09:47] {dino} tbsi s .20
[09:52] {dino} cov tbsi 37.80, +1.40
[09:54] {Threei} good one... quick too
[09:55] {dino} finally
[09:55] {dino} osip
[09:56] {dino} sxci s .49
[10:02] {cosmo} TIVO acting up
[10:02] {Threei} PACT SUBSIDIARY ANNOUNCES ECOMMERCE AGREEMENT IN CHINA
[10:02] {Threei} - Subsidiary has entered into an agreement to place its Electronic Bingo Machines with a leading slot operator in Asia
[10:04] {cosmo} TiVo Statement on the United States Patent and Trademark Office Decision
[10:04] {cosmo} PR Newswire (Thu 12:55pm)
[10:04] {cosmo} fwiw
[10:04] {Threei} 12:57pm [TIVO] Says pleased that Patent Office found Time Warp DVR patent claims valid
[10:05] {cosmo} time warp?
[10:05] {dino} sirt
[10:05] {Threei} chronoclastic infundibula
[10:06] {Threei} BIN LADEN CALLS ON EUROPEAN COUNTRIES TO END MILITARY COOPERATION WITH THE U.S. IN AFGHAN WAR - CITING AL JAZEERA
[10:09] {cosmo} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=chronoclastic+infundibula&go=Go
[10:09] {cosmo} sigh
[10:12] {dino} sxci bstop to .51
[10:14] {dino} stopped -.02
[10:15] {Threei} if you are bored and want action badly, TIVO .15 long with .04 stop
[10:22] {Threei} almost 1:1 TIVO
[10:23] {cosmo} santa likes it
[10:24] {Threei} 1:12
[10:24] {Threei} 1:1
[10:24] {Threei} nice and clean
[10:25] {Threei} that's 4 for 4 today
[10:25] {Threei} can I go home?
[10:25] {BillyD} good selectivity
[10:30] {dino} gj 3i
[10:30] {Threei} ty
[10:31] {Threei} 1:2
[10:32] {Threei} me no held
[10:32] {Threei} if thee did, thee happy
[10:36] {dino} gs sm l .73
[10:42] {dino} stopped
[10:47] {Threei} MOGN pulled back into support
[10:47] {Threei} bounce candidate
[10:48] {Threei} just a scalp, don't count on major move
[10:48] {BillyD} entry?
[10:48] {Threei} would like one more leg of selling
[10:49] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE ECON ADVISOR LAZEAR: "MORE PRONOUNCED" HOUSING SLOWDOWN CONTRIBUTED TO CUT IN ECONOMIC FORECAST - WIRE HEADLINE- Housing will hurt GDP growth at least through 1H 2008
[10:50] {BillyD} didn't see selling pronounced enough to enter
[10:50] {Threei} missed it
[10:55] {bruce} amex is down
[10:55] {bruce} dinos probably been overtrading it
[10:57] {Threei} lol
[10:58] {Threei} if not for ETFs trading on AMEX, not many would even suspect it existed
[10:58] {dino} lol
[10:58] {bruce} dltr vad - any read?
[10:59] {Threei} I can read all 4 letters just fine, thank you
[10:59] {Threei} beyond that... not much
[10:59] {bruce} k
[10:59] {bruce} thats about it for me too
[10:59] {Threei} oh, and I like company name
[11:00] {BillyD} vAd...MOGN seems holding a bit here
[11:00] {Threei} artcile in today's paper titled Earth fails to meet warming prediction for 2007
[11:00] {BillyD} Vad...dis regard last comment
[11:01] {Threei} I am going to start believing in global warming predictions for 2050 and beyond when they get current year right at least 3 out of 5
[11:01] {cosmo} volcanism has been slacking
[11:01] {Threei} no worry Billy, I disregraded it before looking at quotes
[11:01] {bruce} sure a lot warmer here vad
[11:02] {bruce} live on priaires and winters are way milder than 20 yrs back
[11:02] {Threei} hmmm... I lived through copldest winter on record in manitoba
[11:02] {Threei} and it was much more recent than 20 years :)
[11:03] {Threei} as a matter of fact... I managed to arrive to Canada on the coldest day in manitoba's recorded history
[11:03] {Threei} Feb 1 1996, -52 C
[11:03] {BillyD} lol...mere coincidence
[11:04] {bruce} hmmm
[11:04] {cosmo} they must have need you 3i
[11:04] {cosmo} needed
[11:04] {Threei} not my problem anymore
[11:04] {bruce} brought some of htat old moscow chill with you sounds like
[11:04] {bruce} must have felt lke home
[11:04] {Threei} not at all
[11:04] {Threei} I am from way milder climate area
[11:05] {bruce} stec is moving
[11:05] {bruce} ?
[11:05] {Threei} before coming to prairies I had no slightest idea it can be THAT cold
[11:05] {bruce} there is a "mild" climate area in russia?
[11:05] {Threei} have you seen russia on map? :)
[11:06] {bruce} sure
[11:06] {Threei} not even mentioning that I am from Ukraine
[11:06] {bruce} its just a little speck
[11:06] {bruce} lol
[11:06] {Threei} yup... that it is
[11:06] {bruce} ah
[11:06] {bruce} ukraine
[11:06] {bruce} that explains it
[11:07] {BillyD} Vad....TIVO got any gas left in 7.50 break
[11:07] {Threei} I am not comfortable with it at this level Billy... looked at it too
[11:07] {dino} tbsi s .64
[11:07] {BillyD} ok...ty
[11:07] {Threei} opullback maybe
[11:07] {Threei} but break, not anymore
[11:08] {Threei} see this ugly formation it made after this last break?
[11:08] {BillyD} yes
[11:08] {Threei} barely made new high, then formed something otherwordly
[11:09] {BillyD} it dropped right as I posted
[11:09] {BillyD} kiss of death
[11:09] {Threei} in universe I trade in, stocks don't behave like this
[11:09] {cosmo} its your fault BD
[11:09] {BillyD} lol
[11:11] {BillyD} lots of marginal trades out there
[11:11] {Threei} venezuela wants to establish its own unique time zone
[11:11] {BillyD} and they seem not to work as often lately
[11:11] {Threei} now, that's the idea that resonates with me
[11:11] {Threei} that's why I am so picky these days billy
[11:12] {BillyD} u have been very good at it
[11:12] {bruce} expe - any read vad?
[11:12] {Threei} I am willing to take marginal setups in streaming market, it's more forgiving
[11:12] {Threei} but in what we have now, you better shoot for sure thing
[11:12] {BillyD} I should just only take yours
[11:12] {Threei} as much as sure thing exists in the markets
[11:13] {Threei} EXPE, if pulls back into .10-1.15 area I'd be interested
[11:14] {bruce} k-
[11:19] {dino} major slippage stopped tbsi
[11:19] {dino} taking break
[11:19] {BillyD} tbsi a tough one for slippage
[11:20] {dino} indeed
[11:20] {BillyD} TIVO teasing mode
[11:20] {BillyD} still disinterested Vad?
[11:22] {Threei} yeah
[11:22] {cosmo} 7.50 tease
[11:22] {cosmo} maybe
[11:22] {BillyD} yes cosmo
[11:28] {Threei} how about this
[11:28] {Threei} TIVO I mean
[11:28] {cosmo} its warping
[11:29] {cosmo} TIVO I mean
[11:31] {bruce} spls vad
[11:32] {Threei} maybe around .80
[11:39] {Threei} NVDA should provie scalp opportunity if pulls back closer to 33 and NQ stages another spike
[11:39] {BillyD} funny..it is on my screen
[11:41] {Threei} pause... be ready
[11:41] {Threei} in
[11:41] {Threei} .98 stop
[11:41] {BillyD} k
[11:46] {Threei} like violin
[11:46] {Threei} scalpers, take your 1:3
[11:47] {BillyD} out full ty
[11:47] {Threei} "that was easy"
[11:47] {BillyD} low risk
[11:48] {Threei} that's how I like them
[11:49] {Threei} with 4 cents stop, $80 risk on 2K, 12 cents profit = $240 in couple minutes
[11:49] {BillyD} did you buy the TIVO pb.....that is what you meant earlier right?
[11:49] {Threei} no
[11:49] {Threei} it lost all credbility with me
[11:50] {BillyD} you just mentioned it "how about this" and then ?
[11:50] {BillyD} wasn't sure what u meant
[11:50] {Threei} there was unbelievably ugly red bar
[11:51] {Threei} engulfing entire range before that
[11:51] {Threei} just wanted to attract your attention to how untradeable it became
[11:51] {BillyD} I thought maybe if spiked up u were gonna say a possible short
[11:51] {Threei} nah
[11:52] {Threei} why would I want struggle
[11:52] {Threei} I like easy money
[11:52] {Threei} let ego-driven traders fight every battle
[11:52] {BillyD} well if popped uo into mid to high .40's againg w/ .50 stop is low risk
[11:53] {BillyD} is this unreasonable
[11:53] {Threei} I don't know what to say... see, I just don't think like this
[11:53] {BillyD} should I be scared....lol
[11:53] {Threei} if there is a setup I can recognize, any trade is reasonable
[11:54] {BillyD} ok
[11:54] {Threei} general expectations based on price alone, it's just not enough for me to engage
[11:54] {BillyD} I figured as jumpy up w/ .50 resistance possible jumpy spike cover for scalp
[11:55] {Threei} TIVO was easy and safe money on 7 break, which I missed,
[11:55] {Threei} it was reasonable at that break that we took,
[11:55] {BillyD} I see your point as to take the cleaner/safer setup
[11:55] {Threei} after that it became a struggle
[11:55] {Threei} be kinder to yourself, trade simple easy things
[11:56] {Threei} don't drage yourself into overly hot battles
[11:56] {BillyD} u r right
[11:56] {BillyD} make it easier
[11:56] {BillyD} and execute the easier ones more accurately
[11:58] {Threei} non-scalpers who held NVDA, take your indecent r/r whatever it is and I will pretend I don't know you
[11:58] {BillyD} lol
[11:59] {Threei} hmmm... this is something you don't see every day
[12:00] {Threei} ASTI vs ASTIZ... Z always follows the stock,
[12:00] {Threei} right now it overshot it
[12:00] {cosmo} it has a premium
[12:06] {Threei} RIMM india rumors
[12:08] {cosmo} tivo teasing soon
[12:16] {dino} scor hl s .08
[12:28] {cosmo} solf
[12:29] {BillyD} SOLF requires a wide stop
[12:29] {BillyD} keeps trudging up
[12:31] {Threei} VRSN
[12:31] {Threei} feels like there should a short in it
[12:32] {dino} y
[12:32] {Threei} now, with stop above 41
[12:33] {Threei} needs supporter at .90 to give up
[12:33] {BillyD} yup
[12:33] {BillyD} yes
[12:36] {Threei} ah come on, give up already
[12:36] {BillyD} lol
[12:36] {Threei} .96 stop
[12:37] * Threei hits VRSN on the head with 2x4
[12:38] {Threei} OK... violence works
[12:39] {bruce} yep - handy 2*4
[12:39] {Threei} endowed with rusty nails too
[12:40] {bruce} double ouch
[12:41] {bruce} target? - took off half at .80
[12:41] * BillyD kicks VRSN w/ Vad's army boots
[12:41] {Threei} who knows bruce
[12:41] {Threei} let it trade and keep stop
[12:41] {bruce} lol
[12:42] {bruce} will consult the tarot
[12:42] {Threei} no need
[12:42] {Threei} VRSN will tell
[12:42] {Threei} stop to .91
[12:42] {bruce} ah yes - tightening stops
[12:42] {bruce} that I like
[12:42] {dino} shld s .10
[12:43] {Threei} 1:1, stop tyo b/e... also, last bounce held under .90 establishing new resistance level
[12:43] {Threei} so trailing is justified
[12:44] {bruce} with some luck - next stop .5
[12:44] {BillyD} out thx Vad
[12:44] {Threei} :)
[12:44] {Threei} 1:2
[12:44] {Threei} could it be any simpler
[12:44] {BillyD} could have happened quicker....so ungrateful
[12:44] {Threei} lol
[12:44] {bruce} lol
[12:44] {bruce} you tell him billy
[12:44] {Threei} that's two slow trades by me today
[12:45] * Threei spreads ashes over his head
[12:45] {BillyD} no...nothing compares to ONNN
[12:45] {dino} gj bd
[12:45] {Chaeron} don't go ripping your clothes Vad
[12:46] {BillyD} thx dino
[12:46] {Threei} no?
[12:46] {Threei} I hoped it would be a jusatification to update my wardrobe
[12:46] {dino} u2
[12:46] {Chaeron} lol
[12:46] {Threei} I have just one tutu
[12:47] {Threei} and it's pink
[12:47] {BillyD} as long as new wardrobe covers tutu we are ok with it
[12:47] {Threei} need masculine color
[12:47] {cosmo} clear
[12:48] {bruce} riding vrsn w stop to .75 now
[12:50] {bruce} all out .62
[12:50] {bruce} thanx vadster
[12:50] {bruce} nice trade
[12:50] {BillyD} well done bruce
[12:51] {Threei} welcome sir
[12:51] {Threei} it was what, 7 for 7?
[12:51] {Threei} I l.ost count
[12:51] {BillyD} 100%
[12:51] {Threei} just want to know how many straight winners I need to call to get endorsed by bruce {G}
[12:51] {bruce} you did well vad
[12:51] * Threei takes a bow
[12:51] {dino} shld stopped flat
[12:52] {dino} very nice vad
[12:53] {Threei} ty
[12:53] {Threei} best month of the year for me
[12:53] {Threei} one losing day, -whooping 50 bucks
[12:53] {BillyD} you have such clarity in reading
[12:54] {BillyD} in strange mkt
[12:54] {Threei} you should see how fluently I read in Russian...
[12:54] {BillyD} hmmmm
[12:54] {bruce} you've always had my endorsement vad
[12:54] {Threei} just pulling your leg bruce :)
[12:54] {bruce} I just have a knack for jinxing your trades
[12:54] {bruce} a really nice day all in all
[12:55] {bruce} low stress
[12:55] {Threei} ahha
[12:55] {Threei} finally
[12:55] {dino} ironically, negative for me
[12:56] {BillyD} PEIX running
[12:56] {dino} need to go to scalp mode for a few days
[12:56] {Threei} sorry dino
[12:56] {Threei} it doesn't happen to you often
[12:56] {dino} i was due.
[12:57] {dino} s tleo .70
[12:57] {Threei} lol
[12:57] {Threei} funny way to look at it
[12:57] {Roman} out PEIX swing +1.2
[12:57] {Roman} from today
[12:57] {Threei} but then again... what's funny for me is usually the same that is funny for 11 years old
[12:57] {Threei} you are not allowed to close swing same day Roman
[12:58] {dino} scor stopped -.40
[12:58] {Threei} you'll have to re-enter it immediately and hold... alternatively, transfer profits to some charity
[12:59] {Roman} long MGPI
[12:59] {Roman} swing
[12:59] {hawkfan4} lol, thx for PEIX Roman, although i was perfectly happy when i sold it at 5.29
[12:59] {Threei} for the next 3 minutes?
[12:59] {bruce} today was romans day
[12:59] {Roman} out remaining PEIX
[12:59] {Threei} yeah, roman read them solars perfectly
[12:59] {bruce} would love to do more of those long holds
[13:00] {Threei} OK guys, thank you all
[13:00] {Threei} have a great evening
[13:00] {bruce} night all
[13:00] {BillyD} ty...take care
[13:00] {Threei} I'll see you all tomorrow
[13:01] {bruce} you do ok overal dino?
[13:01] {dino} cov tleo .46, +.24
[13:02] {dino} down about $500
[13:02] {bruce} k
[13:02] {bruce} sorry to hear
[13:02] {dino} vacation messed me up. :)
[13:02] {bruce} maybe -
[13:03] {bruce} I watched a bunch of them though
[13:03] {dino} don't worry....i'll go to scalp mode until clear
[13:03] {bruce} they went further than expected before reversining
[13:03] {dino} yes, and all of the sudden market is positive bias. i must adapt
[13:04] {bruce} I'm looking more for double bottoms and tops
[13:04] {bruce} can't seem to get the tops and bottoms rith at all
[13:05] {bruce} so waiting for a better confirmation
[13:05] {bruce} night all
[13:05] {dino} makes sense. prior to yesterday, it was reversal city
[13:05] {dino} take care all, have to coach son's basketball team

November 28, 2007

Session Start: Wed Nov 28 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Wed Nov 28 00:00:00 2007

[05:32] {Threei} *OCT DURABLE GOODS: -0.4% V -0.1%E; DURABLES EX-TRANSPORTATION: -0.7% V 0.3%E
[05:32] {Threei} - Prior Ex-Transportation revised from 0.3% to 1.1
[05:33] {BillyD} a simple good morning entry would do :)
[05:33] {Threei} yeah but that would be too common
[05:33] {Threei} I like to create drama entry
[05:33] {Threei} hmm... by posting dyrable goods data... I need to get out more
[05:33] {BillyD} your consistent
[05:39] {BillyD} seeing if JADE gets follow thru today
[05:41] {Threei} nice move on no news
[05:41] {BillyD} yeah....eating nice offers as well
[05:43] {Threei} tough read for me
[05:43] {Threei} looked at it several times, couldn't get a feel
[05:46] {cosmo} MRVL?
[05:49] {dino} gm all
[05:51] {Threei} dino!
[05:51] {Threei} 00:21am [MRVL] Price target cut to $19 from $21 at Goldman
[05:52] {cosmo} hmm
[06:02] {Threei} FED'S KOHN CAN COMPENSATE FOR HIGHER CREDIT COSTS BY LOWERING RATES - Q&A SESSION
[06:02] {Threei} rob peter to pay paul?
[06:03] {cosmo} its a theory
[06:03] {dptl} good morning all
[06:04] {Threei} dp :)
[06:04] {Threei} TIVo SIGNS CARAT TO COMPREHENSIVE AUDIENCE RESEARCH SUBSCRIPTION
[06:09] {Threei} BIDZ HEARING DEFENDED AT CRAIG HALLUM
[06:10] {Threei} "Jeez, let me out" is a weak defense I'd say
[06:12] {bruce} morning all
[06:12] {Threei} bruce :)
[06:13] {bruce} hi vad
[06:15] {Threei} BIDZ formed breakout pattern on chart with .40 trigger... honestly I am not too jazzed about it
[06:17] {BillyD} because of its nature?
[06:17] {Threei} there is a hot conroversy around it right now
[06:17] {Threei} kind of battle I don't want to participate in until the air clears
[06:17] {esemde} good morning.....
[06:17] {Threei} ese :)
[06:17] {BillyD} ok...thx
[06:17] {BillyD} morn ese
[06:18] {esemde} morning vad, billy
[06:18] {Threei} for canucks who don't watch CAD real time... it flirted with par overnight,
[06:19] {Threei} slightly retreated
[06:19] {Threei} I doubt we will see those blessed 1.50 - 1.60 levels in our lifetime, but I'd be grateful even for 1.10
[06:20] {BillyD} never say never
[06:20] {Threei} recent .90 is plain brutal
[06:23] {BillyD} Vad....you take a hit on the conversion in trading
[06:23] {Threei} "hit" is understatement of the century
[06:23] {Threei} from 1.50 for each buck made to .90?
[06:23] {BillyD} ouch
[06:24] {BillyD} sorry to hear
[06:24] {Threei} oh well... when the wheel rotates faster, what a ferret to do :)
[06:24] {BillyD} lol
[06:25] {BillyD} good attitude
[06:31] {Threei} welcome aboard lumdus
[06:31] {BillyD} welcome lumdus
[06:31] {lumdus} thank you
[06:32] {esemde} bstop SPLS 22.96
[06:32] {Threei} no obvious plays at the open
[06:32] {Threei} SPLS, I'da rather try entry on the retreat ese
[06:32] {Threei} 22.40 support
[06:32] {esemde} ok
[06:33] {BillyD} Vad...not a fan of EFTC
[06:33] {BillyD} ETFC
[06:33] {Threei} try to get it on first sign of strength
[06:33] {Threei} .61 let's say
[06:33] {esemde} was thinking just over .60
[06:33] {Threei} :)
[06:33] {Threei} BIDZ, .40 buyer wishes he never heard of this stock
[06:34] {dino} sm wynn l .00
[06:34] {Threei} ETFC is another one of "battle I don't want to take on" billy
[06:34] {BillyD} ok
[06:35] {Threei} bankruptsy or buyout, which happens first, at what price, when... let them guess and gamble
[06:35] {bruce} nvda spike
[06:35] {esemde} quotes have stopped.....whats goin on?
[06:35] {BillyD} ok here
[06:35] {Threei} .73 .74 ese
[06:35] {Threei} SPLS
[06:35] {esemde} what Bs it's .74
[06:35] {Threei} never got your entry?
[06:36] {esemde} my screen froze
[06:36] {BillyD} in JADE .13
[06:36] {BillyD} partial fill
[06:36] {esemde} what a load of........
[06:36] {esemde} will look at the bstop again
[06:36] {dino} wynnstopped -.50
[06:36] {Threei} don't want to harp ese... but you know what I have to say about it...
[06:37] {Threei} wow JADE... you are playing it like violin Billy
[06:37] {BillyD} out +.16
[06:37] {esemde} nope screen froze again......will see you all in a few minutes
[06:38] {dino} wynn rinsed
[06:39] {Threei} SOHU is getting ahead of itself
[06:39] {Threei} probably your client dino
[06:40] {dino} ty
[06:41] {Threei} ATVI
[06:41] {BillyD} just noticing
[06:41] {Threei} .60 long if stays above .45
[06:43] {Threei} if loses it, looking for long of .20 or so
[06:43] {esemde} am back....
[06:43] {Threei} lost
[06:44] {dino} risky, s sohu .50 hl
[06:44] {BillyD} ATVI held .40 area ok
[06:44] {Threei} holding better than expected ATVI
[06:45] {Threei} let's try .50 break
[06:45] {dino} stop is .87, fwiw sohu
[06:45] {Threei} .35 stop
[06:46] {Threei} mildly aggressive
[06:47] {Threei} break that wall ATVI
[06:47] {BillyD} yes
[06:47] {Threei} good boy, now go
[06:48] {Threei} 1:1
[06:48] {Threei} half out .70
[06:48] {Threei} scalpers know the drill
[06:48] {dino} stopped sohu, -.38
[06:49] {BillyD} new stop Vad?
[06:49] {Threei} .49
[06:49] {BillyD} got it
[06:50] {esemde} long NTAP
[06:50] {esemde} .7171
[06:50] {esemde} thats just .71 small
[06:51] {Threei} nice two day's break NTAP
[06:51] {Threei} .55 stop ese?
[06:51] {esemde} yes
[06:51] {Threei} ATVI stop to .54
[06:52] {Threei} DIVX
[06:53] {Threei} tough one...
[06:53] * Threei kicks ATVI in the rear
[06:54] {dino} tbsi hl l .00
[06:54] {BillyD} out rest +.38 thx Vad
[06:54] {Threei} welcome sir
[06:54] {Threei} out 1/4 more ATVI .92
[06:54] {Threei} +.40
[06:55] {Threei} last portion is for spike over 23
[06:55] {Threei} or .85 stop
[06:55] {esemde} out.....don't know what price mid .80's i thinkl...quotes have stopped again
[06:55] {Threei} it's at .86 ese
[06:56] {esemde} tks
[06:56] {Threei} just dove under .80
[06:56] {esemde} ok...got .87 +.16....
[06:57] {esemde} no more trading today....we gotum computor problems....
[06:57] {Threei} sorry :(
[06:57] {esemde} hmm don't know whats going on.......
[06:58] {BillyD} spyware or virus
[06:58] {Threei} good out ese
[06:58] {BillyD} maybe
[06:58] {Threei} it's under .70
[06:59] {esemde} yes bs luck......quote connection box went yellow instead of green so i fired in a fast sell order
[07:00] {dino} gj ese
[07:00] {esemde} anyone else using Questrade?
[07:00] {esemde} dp?
[07:00] {Threei} it's been nice knowing you ATVI
[07:00] {BillyD} Laser here ese
[07:00] {BillyD} a good one Vad
[07:01] {Threei} NVLS
[07:01] {Threei} .95 long
[07:01] {Threei} if stays above .80
[07:02] {Threei} keep an eye on NQ for this one
[07:02] {Threei} don't buy it if triggers while NQ drops
[07:02] {BillyD} it dropped
[07:02] {Threei} *OCT EXISTING HOME SALES: 4.97M V 5.0ME
[07:03] {Threei} HOKU?
[07:03] {Threei} ETFC
[07:03] {Threei} HEARING RENEWED CHATTER BUFFETT IS TAKING STAKE IN CO.- Note that the WSJ's Deal Journal report highlights potential pitfalls to any deal
[07:03] {dino} out tbsi .44, +.44
[07:03] {Threei} sigh
[07:04] {Threei} wtg dino
[07:04] {dino} ty
[07:06] {Threei} NVLS is valid, same setup, same condition
[07:06] {esemde} am still long my 100 shs CSIQ at 14.50 though
[07:06] {BillyD} NQ tinker down again
[07:06] {dino} risky, hl l bidz .65, stop .33
[07:06] {esemde} it's making a move toward todays high at 15.50
[07:06] {Threei} SCON buyers
[07:07] {esemde} yes indeed it is
[07:07] {dino} stopped, hmmmm
[07:08] {esemde} should have been it has
[07:08] {Threei} BIDZ is on my stay away for now list dino
[07:09] {dino} pretty beat up
[07:09] {dino} another rinse job, looks like
[07:09] {Roman} long URRE small
[07:09] {dino} or not
[07:09] {Threei} too much arguing around it right now
[07:10] {Roman} 11.32 small
[07:10] {Threei} want to let the dust settle
[07:10] {dino} i'll wait way lower
[07:11] {Threei} RMBS
[07:11] {Threei} 19.01 long
[07:12] {Threei} if stays above .80
[07:12] {Threei} if treiggers from here, stop .85
[07:13] {Threei} lost interest in NVLS breakout
[07:13] {BillyD} vol low for RMBS from memory
[07:15] {bruce} out ebay + .45
[07:15] {Threei} SMSI
[07:15] {BillyD} nice bruce
[07:15] {Threei} half lot short .48
[07:15] {bruce} \thanx billy
[07:15] {Threei} stop above .61
[07:16] {BillyD} good spot Vad
[07:16] {BillyD} in .46
[07:16] {Threei} missed your entry bruce... good one
[07:17] {dino} vrgy s hl .15
[07:17] {dino} stop .53
[07:18] {bruce} thanx vad .42 on pause
[07:19] {dino} gj bruce
[07:19] {bruce} thanx dino
[07:22] {Threei} roman, any clue on SCON?
[07:22] {dino} vrgy stopped, taking a break
[07:24] {Threei} let's tighten SMSI to .56 billy
[07:24] {BillyD} k
[07:25] {Roman} no reed on SCON vad
[07:25] {BillyD} RMBS still?
[07:25] {Roman} but CSIQ looks interest
[07:25] {Threei} ty
[07:25] {Threei} sure, RMBS is as valid as ever
[07:26] {Threei} let's dance RMBS
[07:26] {Threei} don't be a party pooper
[07:26] {Threei} out SMSI
[07:26] {BillyD} out smsi ...in RMBS
[07:27] {Roman} long CPSL
[07:28] {Roman} full size
[07:28] {dino} vrgy rinse job too, sheesh
[07:29] {BillyD} dino...u have Vad's TTR book
[07:29] {dino} yes
[07:29] {BillyD} pg 142...expanding range mkt
[07:29] {BillyD} he showed us yesterday
[07:29] {BillyD} FYI
[07:29] {dino} ahh
[07:29] {Threei} to be precise... I found it yesterday
[07:29] {Threei} {G}
[07:30] {Roman} long KONG
[07:30] {Roman} 1/3 size
[07:30] {Roman} 4.80
[07:31] {Threei} NQ is ready to bust 75
[07:31] {Threei} done
[07:31] {Threei} come on RMBS, follow
[07:33] {Threei} DOE CRUDE: -400K V -750KE; GASOLINE: +1.4M V +1ME; DISTILLATES: -100K V -1ME; UTILIZATION: 89.4% V 87.6%E
[07:33] {Threei} Crude: -5.3M
[07:33] {Threei} Distillate: +2.6M
[07:33] {Threei} Gasoline: +88
[07:34] {Threei} are we swimming in oil or what
[07:34] {Threei} RMBS stop to .89
[07:34] {cosmo} we float on it, 3i
[07:34] {Threei} not sure I like this stall
[07:34] {BillyD} agree on RMBS
[07:34] {Roman} XFML
[07:34] {Roman} long
[07:35] {Threei} should have broken .10 more easily on last NQ spike
[07:35] {BillyD} took some off here
[07:35] {BillyD} .09
[07:35] {Threei} probably a good idea
[07:36] {BillyD} hate to do it as I am trying to hold faithfully
[07:36] {BillyD} but my goodness
[07:37] {BillyD} noe RMBS
[07:37] {BillyD} now
[07:38] {Threei} NVDA demonstrates happiness and perkiness today
[07:38] {Threei} somehow it escaped my attention on .50 breakout
[07:38] {lumdus} i missed the call on rmbs - what was it ?
[07:39] {Threei} 19 lumdus
[07:39] {BillyD} if RMBS can't do it here....be a sign
[07:39] {Threei} 18.84 original stop, .89 now
[07:39] {lumdus} tx .. need to pay more attention here.
[07:39] {dino} btrx s hl .60 stop .93
[07:40] {Threei} why would you do that... even my cat doesn't pay any attention to me when I forbid it to step on buy button
[07:40] {BillyD} does your cat type?
[07:40] {BillyD} that would explain a lot
[07:40] {Threei} no but it likes my keyboard shortcut
[07:41] {Threei} ah, you are mean
[07:41] {Threei} you dislike my grammar
[07:41] {Threei} and spelling
[07:41] {Threei} I would cry if not for the fact that you are not alone
[07:41] {bruce} ebay continues - exited way too early
[07:41] {BillyD} cat like mindset...hehe
[07:42] {BillyD} humor
[07:42] {BillyD} etc, etc
[07:42] {Threei} RMBS like chinese water torture
[07:42] {BillyD} where you at Vade for 1/2
[07:42] {BillyD} rflol
[07:42] {Threei} want .16 - .17
[07:42] {BillyD} ok...thx
[07:42] {bruce} now if you can just train the cat to do winning trades vad!
[07:42] {Threei} but I am flexible
[07:43] {Threei} trying bruce
[07:43] {Roman} show QQQQ
[07:43] {Roman} short
[07:43] {Roman} 51.22
[07:43] {dino} amln hl l .50, stop .23
[07:43] {Threei} party pooper
[07:43] {BillyD} out little RMBS .15
[07:44] {BillyD} .13
[07:44] {BillyD} chinese torture getting best of me
[07:44] {bruce} my level 2's giving crossed quotes today
[07:44] {Threei} offering .17
[07:45] {Threei} server 2 here bruce, looks fine
[07:45] {BillyD} ?me undercuts Vad at .16
[07:45] {BillyD} lol
[07:45] {bruce} out rmbs
[07:45] {BillyD} can't even post jioke properly
[07:45] {Threei} ah that's how is it going to be?
[07:45] {BillyD} jk :)
[07:45] {Threei} won't announce my exits in advance then!'
[07:46] {BillyD} never even entered order and RMBS backs down
[07:46] {Threei} you scared it
[07:46] {BillyD} my whole 200 shares left
[07:47] {Threei} hmm.. NVDA sells while NQ upticks
[07:47] {Threei} either fluke or it's ready to be shorted
[07:47] {Threei} 32.99 short trigger, half lot
[07:48] {Threei} .30 resistance
[07:48] {Threei} if NQ nosedives, short aggressively
[07:48] {BillyD} k
[07:48] {Threei} no full lot today on it
[07:48] {Threei} it's more volatile than usual
[07:49] {BillyD} not sure I'm up for NVDA
[07:52] {BillyD} pivotsal moment for index
[07:54] {dino} bucy fast fall
[07:55] {Threei} out half RMBS
[07:55] {Threei} I obviously like being tortured...
[07:55] {BillyD} good patience
[07:56] {BillyD} do or die mentality
[07:56] {Threei} it's just coma
[07:56] {Threei} I trade much better if I never wake up
[07:57] {Threei} stop .99
[07:57] {Threei} will trail it to .09 if it breaks .20
[08:01] {BillyD} out rest of RMBS...thx Vad
[08:01] {Threei} welcome
[08:02] {BillyD} your NVDA working nicely
[08:03] {Threei} need one more leg down
[08:03] {Threei} maybe I got too greedy
[08:03] {Threei} it had huge bid at .75 when lost .80
[08:03] {BillyD} u n at .99 or higher
[08:03] {Threei} .05
[08:04] {Threei} felt to me like it was ready to bust than bid and drop to the center of Earth
[08:04] {Threei} wishful thinking that proved to be
[08:04] {Threei} than = that
[08:06] {BillyD} where's your stop on NVDA
[08:07] {Threei} that was question I just asked myself
[08:07] {Threei} I guess I'll trail it to above .10
[08:07] {BillyD} .10
[08:07] {BillyD} lol
[08:07] {Threei} stop looking over my shoulder
[08:08] * Threei sweeps his office for hidden cameras
[08:08] {BillyD} check the cat
[08:08] * Threei send his cat to catscan
[08:08] {BillyD} lol
[08:08] {Threei} (pun intended and admittedly lame)
[08:09] {BillyD} got it
[08:10] {BillyD} my JADE disappointing w/ no follow thru
[08:11] {Threei} NVDA stop to 33.01
[08:11] {Threei} no way I lose money on it
[08:13] {BillyD} odds in your favor of down
[08:13] {Threei} out RMBS balance, obviously oversat this one
[08:13] {BillyD} I wasn't quick enough to short it when large .18 showed up w./ NQ slowly sliding down
[08:18] {Threei} out NVDA .80
[08:19] {Threei} +.25
[08:19] {BillyD} nice...it's stubborn
[08:19] {Threei} most likelyt drops down more
[08:19] {Threei} but I seem to be oversitting them today
[08:20] {BillyD} SCON continues...but this one togh for me
[08:27] {BillyD} seems things slowed
[08:29] {dino} inin hl sa .80, stop .11
[08:30] {dino} hmmm, that was fast
[08:31] {dino} core
[08:35] {Threei} LOCM...
[08:38] {bruce} rrgb vad?
[08:41] {Roman} out CPSL
[08:41] {Roman} cover QQQQ
[08:42] {Threei} I like bruce
[08:43] {Threei} just would like help by NQ
[08:43] {Threei} small shares
[08:43] {Threei} it's on a thin side
[08:43] {bruce} yes see that- fairly big spread too
[08:46] {BillyD} are traders waiting on the Fed Beige book at 2pm EST ?
[08:50] {Threei} try to offer it above .50 bruce
[08:50] {Threei} above .30, sorry
[08:52] {bruce} missed entry
[08:52] {bruce} was hoping to see activity about .20
[08:52] {bruce} but skipped ritgh over that
[08:53] {Threei} too thin to trade it like that
[08:53] {bruce} guess so - that was last high so I figred there wouldbe some action
[08:53] {bruce} needed to enter about .15 - 18 I guess
[08:54] {Threei} yes
[08:56] {Threei} feels like upward from here
[08:57] {Threei} let's try half lot NVDA long .85
[08:57] {Threei} stop under .70
[09:01] {Threei} stop to .73
[09:04] {Threei} upward it is
[09:05] {Threei} come on NVDA, break 33
[09:05] {Threei} if uncomfortable, feel free to take profit right under
[09:06] {BillyD} not in here
[09:06] {Threei} suuure... let me suffer alone
[09:06] {BillyD} actually stepped away...and could have entered on PB
[09:07] {BillyD} didn't have faith in mkt cont upward
[09:08] {Threei} beauty
[09:08] {Threei} me out
[09:08] {Threei} +.20
[09:08] {BillyD} gj
[09:11] {dino} out mrvlk +.24
[09:11] {dino} mrvl
[09:11] {Threei} :)
[09:12] {BillyD} in some JADE 3
[09:15] {BillyD} QLTI....take a look Vad
[09:16] {dino} apei
[09:17] {Threei} hard to tell QLTI
[09:17] {BillyD} a bit overextended on daily
[09:17] {BillyD} w/ flatline tendecies
[09:18] {BillyD} and 5 resistance area
[09:19] {bruce} any thoughts efii vad?
[09:21] {Threei} 23 - 23.10 range
[09:21] {Threei} break is valid play
[09:22] {Threei} keep it to half lot
[09:22] {bruce} k saw spike on last run to .1 so wondering if valid or likely done
[09:23] {bruce} in
[09:31] {Threei} market in deep coma
[09:31] {BillyD} ETFC might be getting interesting...I know u don't like Vad
[09:32] {Threei} who doesn't like Vad?
[09:32] {Threei} are there really such people?
[09:32] {Threei} qait... about 6 billions
[09:33] {BillyD} nah....not possible
[09:33] {Threei} 7?
[09:35] {bruce} stopped efii
[09:40] {esemde} see you all tomorrow
[09:40] {Threei} take care ese
[09:40] {esemde} tks for your help today vad...
[09:41] {Threei} I gave any?
[09:41] {esemde} SPLS...
[09:41] {Threei} you mean I was actually here when I typed all my incoherent nonsense?
[09:41] {BillyD} see....people like you Vad
[09:42] {Threei} hard to believe that billy...
[09:44] {BillyD} Vad....u ever use auto stop order w/ Laser
[09:48] {Threei} nope
[09:48] {dino} ppco
[09:51] {Threei} no news
[10:03] {BillyD} QLTI is interssting
[10:26] {dino} wynn hl l .05
[10:31] {Threei} getting interested in RMBS round 2, .21 long
[10:32] {Threei} watching where the support forms
[10:32] {Threei} if it does
[10:32] {BillyD} want more torture eh
[10:32] {Threei} I don't see anything of a fast variety
[10:33] {BillyD} no....I am hostage to JADE
[10:33] {BillyD} may bail to get out of jail
[10:34] {Threei} be thankful you never bought into ETFC
[10:34] {BillyD} I was waiting for the .45 area
[10:35] {BillyD} yeah...glad not aggressive on it
[10:40] {Threei} NQ forms breakout chart...
[10:40] {BillyD} C& H
[10:40] {Threei} don't know how to take it having beige book in 22 min
[10:41] {BillyD} good pt
[10:42] {dino} cov btrx .35, +.25
[10:42] {BillyD} gj
[10:43] {dptl} f...ing internet missed half a day
[10:43] {BillyD} NVDA stcuk in a range Vad
[10:43] {Threei} FED'S FISHER SAYS FED IS AWARE OF INFLATIONARY PRESSURES; HIGHER CREDIT COSTS MAY CURB ECONOMIC GROWTH
[10:43] {Threei} - says does not see recession on the horizon
[10:43] {BillyD} rally
[10:44] {dino} conn
[10:44] {Threei} qwhere?
[10:44] {bruce} sorry to hear dp
[10:44] {bruce} not much going on now
[10:44] {Threei} we may rally now though, market was waiting for dp to reconnect
[10:45] {BillyD} sorry Vad....you didn't see my humor
[10:45] {BillyD} lol
[10:45] {dptl} i am not sure about that
[10:45] {Threei} that was humor?
[10:45] {BillyD} it's bad I know
[10:45] {Threei} happy to see that billy... I am not alone in bad humor department
[10:46] {BillyD} my humor use to be ok
[10:46] {Threei} then mine rubbedd off
[10:46] {Threei} sorry about that
[10:47] {BillyD} np
[10:47] {BillyD} u r not alone anymore
[10:47] {Threei} yes, it goes into your good deed list
[10:48] {dino} hl l conn .60
[10:53] {BillyD} out some JADE +.07
[10:54] {Threei} enduring torture pays off
[10:54] {BillyD} good exercise for me
[10:54] {Threei} it's verey easy actually
[10:54] {Threei} fall in coma
[10:55] {Threei} stay numb
[10:55] {BillyD} yup
[10:56] {bruce} is your win/loss ratio affected by time of day vad?
[10:56] {Threei} I decrease my activity midday as a rule
[10:57] {Threei} so no, not really... but it would if I pressed ahead all day
[10:57] {bruce} k
[10:57] {bruce} thats what I fugured
[10:58] {bruce} a lot of people don't trade at all after 11
[10:58] {Threei} well, here is always chance of a news play
[10:58] {Threei} or some other reason for atcivity
[10:58] {Threei} so it's not like I withdraw completely
[10:58] {Threei} but I aam much more picky
[10:59] {Threei} it would take more for a stock to lure me in
[10:59] {BillyD} u just play hard to get then
[10:59] {Threei} marginal setup that I may take at 10 I will ingore at 12
[10:59] {Threei} right
[10:59] {BillyD} that is the best way to play it imo
[11:00] {bruce} biggest moves are usually in am
[11:00] {BillyD} people usually full of enrgy first thing
[11:01] {bruce} but there seems to be a lot of major selloffs during lunch time over last few months
[11:01] {Threei} 2 min till Beige bunch of nonsense
[11:02] {Threei} *FED'S BEIGE BOOK: ECONOMY EXPANDING AT SLOWER PACE
[11:02] {Threei} wow
[11:03] {Threei} I am impressed by the depth of insight
[11:04] {BillyD} out more Jadew
[11:05] {BillyD} out rest
[11:05] {Threei} - Retail spending is relatively soft, retailers expect slow holiday season
[11:05] {Threei} - Manufacturers mixed across districts, glut of home putting pressure on prices and construction, business loans high, lending tight on consumer loans, mortgage delinquincies rose significantly
[11:05] {Threei} - Price pressures moderate outside of food and energy
[11:05] {Threei} - Exports are bright spot due to weaker USD
[11:05] {Threei} - Chicago sees higher steel production due to less competition because of the weaker USD
[11:06] {Threei} and market was waiting for this to come out?
[11:06] {BillyD} beat a ded horse
[11:06] {BillyD} dead
[11:13] {lumdus} nvls setting up
[11:14] {Threei} 27 break?
[11:15] {Threei} RMBS too is about to trigger - for those who like being tortured
[11:15] {Threei} .120 support
[11:15] {Threei} .10
[11:21] {Threei} FED'S FISHER: TOO SOON TO TELL IF RATE CUTS WENT FAR ENOUGH
[11:21] {Threei} - Fed decisions to be based on incoming data
[11:21] {Threei} - says right now markets are still brittle, but the Fed will not be bullied by markets
[11:21] {Threei} -says unsure if inflation rate will decelerate; biggest inflation threats are energy and food prices
[11:21] {dino} out conn .84, +.24
[11:32] {Threei} wow... haven't seen market that flat in a while
[11:46] {BillyD} maybe look for some shorts if mkt continues to drift down
[11:47] {Threei} well NVDA and BRCM are obvious candidates, they repeat NQ formation
[11:48] {Threei} it's that I don't have rel;iable read on NQ
[11:48] {BillyD} it seems small support levels all the way down
[11:51] {Threei} there is just no "stream" of activity
[11:51] {Threei} there is a trickle
[11:51] {Threei} drop here drop there
[11:51] {Threei} it's not a foundation for a read
[11:51] {Threei} see this spike?
[11:51] {Threei} was there anything to read it?
[11:51] {BillyD} yes
[11:52] {BillyD} is vol low for NQ
[11:52] {Threei} and both NVDA and BRCM reacted accordingly
[11:52] {BillyD} it was like that yesterday to
[11:53] {BillyD} the spikes from nowhere
[11:53] {Threei} don't fool yourself, it's simply "no action because no reason for action" situation
[11:53] {Threei} it's not that we are unable to find it - it's simply not there
[11:53] {Threei} fals "work ethics" push us to do something in such situations
[11:53] {BillyD} I feel better now
[11:54] {Threei} false
[11:55] {BillyD} and we are up 316
[11:55] {Threei} if you put me me in the corner and demand at gunpoint to pick direction - I would pick up
[11:56] {BillyD} I would never do that to you...sounds harsh
[11:56] {BillyD} lol
[11:56] {Threei} with cannon at my temple I could even enter :)
[11:56] * BillyD sends dirty harry to Vad's house
[11:57] * Threei put Yuri the Kneecapshooter and Ivan the Enforcer to guard the door
[11:57] {BillyD} rflol
[11:59] {Threei} just to keep you all from falling asleep
[12:00] {Threei} why would I pick up rather than down?
[12:00] {Threei} anyone, wild guess? or educated one?
[12:00] * Threei slaps LaserDave1 around a bit with a large trout
[12:00] {BillyD} because crowd mindset is up
[12:00] {BillyD} trend
[12:00] {Threei} up to this point, yes
[12:01] {Threei} what about this particular moment?
[12:01] {BillyD} held last suupport
[12:02] {BillyD} thru prior resistance
[12:02] {BillyD} now
[12:02] {Threei} being up 320 NYSE, 65 NASDAQ,
[12:02] {Threei} retreating a little from highs,
[12:02] {Threei} having nothing but bleak outlook from feds
[12:03] {Threei} isn't down too obvious?
[12:03] {Threei} having very very dull market after such run,
[12:03] {BillyD} people numb to it
[12:03] {Threei} isn't it's the best illustration to "never short a dull market"?
[12:04] {Threei} if there is any significance to it, this dullness is masking a trap
[12:04] {BillyD} dull markets can come in downtrends as well right
[12:04] {Threei} sure
[12:04] {Threei} but this combination screams down
[12:04] {Threei} and when something is so "in my face", I refuse to take it at face value
[12:05] {BillyD} but the hanging around of it says otherwise?
[12:05] {Threei} that's suckers game
[12:05] {Threei} it suggests higher chance for it to be a trap, and market to stage surprize rally
[12:05] {BillyD} meaning it's hanging around near high areaqs
[12:05] {Threei} now, there may be not any signifcance to this combination,
[12:06] {Threei} and it could be caused by simple loss of orientaion
[12:06] {Threei} and that's why I don't want to press either way
[12:06] {Threei} but if I had to assign any meaning to this situation
[12:06] {Threei} it would be:
[12:07] {Threei} this is a trap for gullible shorters
[12:07] {Threei} and market is going to explode in their face
[12:07] {Threei} faces?
[12:07] {BillyD} quiet before the storm
[12:09] {BillyD} most stocks bifg and small seem to follow broader mkt lately
[12:09] {BillyD} not too many independents
[12:09] {Threei} oh, it's just a phasw
[12:09] {Threei} phase
[12:09] {Threei} no pronpunced manias last week or two, that's all
[12:10] {Threei} we lived through two manias recently, china and solars
[12:10] {Threei} another one is around the corner
[12:10] {BillyD} overall, most not sure whereto go
[12:11] {BillyD} traders that is
[12:11] {Threei} martial arts principle... "not sure what to do - make a step forward"
[12:11] {Threei} :)
[12:11] {BillyD} long vs short
[12:12] {Threei} NVDA is up 20 cents since we decided no ahort
[12:12] {Threei} consider it profit in a sense... money not lost :)
[12:12] {BillyD} ty Vad
[12:12] {BillyD} mkt getting ready
[12:12] {Threei} new highs
[12:14] {Threei} why don't I write a book about this
[12:14] {Threei} wait... I did
[12:14] {BillyD} pg # please
[12:14] {Threei} correction: why don't I read it
[12:14] {Threei} all of them
[12:15] {Threei} entire book is about this
[12:15] {Threei} first one at least
[12:15] {BillyD} minority vs majority
[12:15] {Threei} major idea of tape reading, yes
[12:20] {_liranme} I quit, good evening everybody.
[12:20] {BillyD} bye liranme
[12:20] {_liranme} I had a great first day here with 100% success.
[12:21] {_liranme} Thanks Vad for ATVI, RMBS, and NVDA
[12:21] {BillyD} great to hear
[12:24] {Threei} wow
[12:24] {Threei} nice to hear
[12:25] {BillyD} 2nd person that likes you today
[12:25] {Threei} I am going to mark this day in calendar
[12:25] {BillyD} will RMBS go
[12:26] {BillyD} 4th time up here
[12:26] {Threei} if eats through .20
[12:28] {lumdus} same here vad great day. just need to concentrate too much
[12:29] {Threei} good to hear
[12:29] {Threei} it wasn't very active day, required discipline to stay on a sideline
[12:31] {Threei} and I am glad it cooperated to show the theoretic principles of market read in real time
[12:37] {dino} risky, s tbsi .15 hl
[12:46] {bruce} checking out
[12:46] {bruce} gday all
[12:46] {Threei} take care bruce
[12:46] {bruce} see you in am
[12:46] {BillyD} bye bruce
[12:46] {bruce} thanx vad
[12:47] {bruce} fending off that nasty cold from your former wi\ter peg
[12:47] {bruce} lol
[12:50] {Threei} TBSI works for dino
[12:50] {Threei} perfect action by market
[12:50] {Threei} kill both sides
[12:51] {Threei} up about 15 pointys from the max dullness moment, just enough to shake out everyone,
[12:51] {Threei} all the way back down, just enough to kill overly optimistic
[12:52] {BillyD} you sound happy about this
[12:52] {Threei} of course I am
[12:52] {BillyD} or the cosnsistent cy
[12:52] {Threei} I could read it just about right not be sucked in on any side,
[12:53] {Threei} a bit more volume and pace and I would even be able to benefit
[12:53] {BillyD} right
[12:53] {Threei} but heck... nicely in the black for the day as it is
[12:53] {BillyD} yes
[12:54] {Threei} and on top of all that...
[12:54] {Threei} 2 (two) people liked me today
[12:55] {BillyD} lol
[12:55] {BillyD} I knew it
[12:55] {Threei} make no mistake, this is not daily occurence for me
[12:55] {Threei} as my wife says, "you are right too often to be liked"
[12:55] {BillyD} you need to pay your family more $
[12:55] {Threei} to make them leave?
[12:55] {BillyD} surprise surprise
[12:56] {BillyD} poor woman...bless her soul to put up with you
[12:56] {BillyD} and a know it all cat
[12:56] {Threei} lol
[12:56] {BillyD} lol
[12:57] {dino} cov .91, +.24 tbsi
[12:57] {BillyD} so tell me....who really calls the trades?
[12:57] {BillyD} nice dino
[12:57] {dino} ty billy, under-performed today.
[12:57] {Threei} you would think at my age I should learn not to voice out my opinions about things so people could conrtin ue liking me... but nooooo
[12:58] {Threei} this is overly long weekend dino... lost touch a little :)
[12:58] {BillyD} always tomorrow dino :)
[12:58] {BillyD} look at bounce move now
[12:58] {BillyD} crazy
[12:59] {Threei} this one I couldn't read at all
[12:59] {Threei} that was pure 50/50 to me
[12:59] {Threei} coyuld break 2090 just as easily
[13:01] {dino} yeah you're right 3i. will be better tomorrow
[13:01] {BillyD} thx Vad aand everyone...cya tomorrow
[13:01] {Threei} thank you all
[13:01] {Threei} have a great evening
[13:01] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[13:02] {dino} later all

November 27, 2007

Session Start: Tue Nov 27 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Tue Nov 27 00:00:00 2007

[05:31] {Threei} [BIDZ] Bidz.com Has Record Holiday Weekend; Updates Guidance
[05:31] {Threei} - Announced that sales during the Thanksgiving holiday weekend, from Friday to Sunday were up 78% over last year.
[05:31] {Threei} - Guides Q4 R $56-58M v 56Me
[05:31] {Threei} - Guides FY07 Rev $180-182M v $181.3Me
[05:31] {Threei} - Guides FY08 Rev $225-230M v $229.7Me
[05:31] {BillyD} morning Vad
[05:33] {Threei} billy :)
[05:36] {Threei} TIVO: NBC UNIVERSAL CONFIRMS PARTNERSHIP WITH TIVO ON ADVERTISING AND RESEARCH SOLUTIONS- reported by WSJ earlier
[05:58] {cosmo} ATVI: Activision Raises Third Quarter and Fiscal Year 2008 Outlook Marking Record Results for the Company
[05:58] {cosmo} Business Wire (Tue 6:30am)
[05:58] {bruce} morning all
[05:59] {BillyD} morning bruce, cosmo
[05:59] {cosmo} BD:)
[05:59] {Threei} bruce, cosmo :)
[05:59] {cosmo} br, 3i:)
[06:01] {cosmo} ATVI pre mkt high = 20.89 fwiw
[06:01] {bruce} hi billy
[06:05] {dptl} good morning all
[06:05] {Threei} dp :)
[06:06] {cosmo} SPLS (beat est) pre mkt high = 21.84 fwiw
[06:06] {BillyD} dp :)
[06:09] {Threei} my old place of living endures -34 C right now
[06:10] {Threei} it's about -37 F for you metric-challenged
[06:10] {BillyD} 37 below zero?
[06:10] {Threei} yes sir
[06:11] {BillyD} ouch
[06:11] {Threei} exactly
[06:11] {BillyD} scary
[06:11] {bruce} dp
[06:12] {esemde} GM all...
[06:12] {Threei} ese :)
[06:12] {Threei} I gotta paste a quote from yesterday for you
[06:12] {BillyD} lol
[06:12] {esemde} pls do....
[06:12] {Threei} [15:12] {BillyD} Vad...start singing
[06:12] {Threei} [15:12] {Threei} oh you don't want that
[06:12] {Threei} [15:13] {Threei} believe you me
[06:12] {Threei} [15:13] {BillyD} I guess I need to think of your family
[06:12] {Threei} [15:13] {Threei} when I sing people break windows in futile attempt to escape the horror
[06:12] {Threei} [15:14] {BillyD} lol
[06:13] {Threei} [15:15] {Threei} if you ever see ese running for cover, desperately trying to get asylum in another country and complaining to UN about cruel and unusual punishment or torture - you know I sang in his presence
[06:14] {esemde} your assuming i actually know what i'm doing.....
[06:14] {Threei} one of us should...
[06:14] {bruce} ese
[06:15] {esemde} morning bruce
[06:16] {cosmo} ATVI
[06:18] {cosmo} gee... where CAN you seek asylum anymore?
[06:18] {esemde} fickle market....it dumped 200pts on you all yesterday once again.....
[06:20] {Threei} be back in 5
[06:25] {bruce} yep ese - market rises all summer during traditional "flat" period
[06:25] {bruce} then dumps during traditinal christmas rally
[06:25] {bruce} go figure
[06:25] {esemde} ATVI looks good cos got an entry point in mind....
[06:26] {cosmo} it was only a turkey rally, i say
[06:26] {Threei} no pattern work that reliably
[06:26] {BillyD} well bru8ce...anything can and will happen in the mkt.....never fails
[06:26] {Threei} it would be too easy
[06:26] {cosmo} watch the open for a pull back....maybe
[06:27] {cosmo} should hold 20.50
[06:27] {cosmo} must hold...actually
[06:28] {esemde} never ceases to amaze me....some goof just casually mentions that this credit crunch might not be over and at 2:30 BAM....
[06:28] {BillyD} people are nervous
[06:29] {BillyD} and that goof is probably right
[06:29] {cosmo} hmm ... open break
[06:30] {cosmo} should hold 20.70
[06:31] {esemde} that looks like support on pull back
[06:32] {cosmo} support
[06:32] {cosmo} 21 tests
[06:32] {esemde} yep
[06:32] {cosmo} oops
[06:33] {cosmo} not much of a test
[06:33] {esemde} look at that go
[06:33] {Threei} let it pull back or consolidate, IMO
[06:34] {bruce} bidz dump
[06:36] {Threei} .80 support for a stop placement
[06:36] {Threei} worth a try here
[06:37] {Threei} in 21
[06:37] {BillyD} same here
[06:37] {Threei} for scalpers stop .89
[06:39] {Threei} 1:1 was easy... don't know what's next
[06:39] {Threei} 50/50
[06:39] {cosmo} SPLS
[06:39] {Threei} CFO: SMALL BUSINESS UNSETTLED BY ECONOMY, ONLY BUYING WHAT THEY NEED - CONF CALLNotes Black Friday store traffic was 'tremendous'
[06:39] {Threei} that's SPLS
[06:40] {Threei} VRSN
[06:40] {Threei} watching
[06:41] {Threei} half lot play whatever it is
[06:41] {Threei} .68 long if stays above .50
[06:41] {Threei} if loses it, want something like .20
[06:43] {Threei} ATVI 1:2
[06:43] {BillyD} for scalpers 1:2
[06:43] {cosmo} TIVO
[06:44] {cosmo} low vol
[06:44] {Threei} holding better this time VRSN
[06:45] {Threei} setup is back
[06:46] {Threei} invalidated second time
[06:46] {Threei} really don't want to play it with stop under .40
[06:47] {Threei} aggressive entry is possible if NQ shows sharp reversal
[06:48] {Threei} .50 break long, .39 stop
[06:50] {BillyD} looking for break of huigh on VRSN
[06:50] {Roman} JADE continueing
[06:52] {Threei} half out VRSN
[06:53] {Threei} over 1:2
[06:53] {Threei} scalpers know what to do
[06:53] {Threei} beauty of aggressive entry
[06:53] {BillyD} yeah out in full thx
[06:53] {Threei} welcome
[06:53] {Threei} out in full .95
[06:54] {Threei} +.43
[06:54] {Threei} and don't underestimate math skills it took me to compute that
[06:58] {Threei} ORCL .95 long, .79 stop
[06:59] {Threei} if NQ jumps up, grab it aggressively
[07:00] {Threei} triggered
[07:02] {Threei} NOV CONSUMER CONFIDENCE: 87.3 V 91.0E- prior revised to 95.2 from 95.6
[07:02] {Threei} ugh
[07:02] {Threei} *NOV RICHMOND FED MANUFACTURING: 0 V -2E
[07:03] {Threei} EFUT
[07:03] {Threei} WINNING NANJING VEHICLE LOGISTICS SOLUTION PROJECT OF CHANG'AN FORD
[07:09] {BillyD} out ORCL
[07:09] {Threei} yeah, market gets killed
[07:09] {Threei} canadians, see loonie pushing for parity again?
[07:09] {Threei} from another side of the fence this time
[07:12] {BillyD} watching BRCM for short set up
[07:15] {BillyD} in BRCM short .40
[07:16] {Threei} OPEC GULF COUNTRIES CONSIDER 750K BPD OUTPUT HIKE - WIRE CITING OFFICIALS
[07:16] {Threei} - Iraqi Oil Min: Says OPEC may increase its output by 500K BPD at its Dec 5th meeting
[07:19] {BillyD} out BRCM -.17
[07:26] {BillyD} .
[07:26] {Threei} good point
[07:33] {Threei} what a hystreical market
[07:34] {BillyD} crazy
[07:39] {BillyD} the NQ spikes seem to stop you out of what looks to be good setups
[07:39] {Threei} expanding range
[07:40] {BillyD} ?
[07:42] {Threei} TTR page 141
[07:42] {BillyD} roflol
[07:43] {Threei} what... I said everything already, lol
[07:43] {BillyD} the first sentence
[07:43] {BillyD} The expanding range is the worst market ever
[07:44] {BillyD} encountered
[07:44] {Threei} read the description and explanation how it grinds you, you will recognize the action
[07:45] {Threei} dream come true... instead of answering any question I simply name the page... :)
[07:46] {BillyD} so true...so wouldn't playing the moves aggressively near te ranges be better....
[07:46] {Threei} yes... and the worst thing about this kind of day is that it's nearly impossible to recognize early
[07:46] {Threei} intuition may be helpful sometimes... not always
[07:46] {BillyD} it's kind of been this way for a while though
[07:47] {Threei} noticed how I stopped activity at some point?
[07:47] {BillyD} some days more or less than others
[07:47] {BillyD} yes
[07:47] {BillyD} it seems get your scalp and get out
[07:53] {BillyD} VAD..what type of psychological state attributes to this kind of mkt
[07:53] {Threei} maniac-depressive
[07:53] {BillyD} lol
[07:54] {BillyD} people just tweaked
[07:59] {Threei} RIMM 114.50 break should be big long catalyst
[07:59] {Threei} let's see what happens
[07:59] {Threei} not playing it here, just want to watch whether patterns are back in action
[07:59] {BillyD} ok
[07:59] {BillyD} any stocks in mind
[08:00] {Threei} not at the moment
[08:02] {Threei} not too bad RIMM
[08:03] {Threei} BRCM .98 short
[08:03] {Threei} 27.03 stop
[08:03] {Threei} and don't laugh
[08:04] {BillyD} I' not
[08:06] {BillyD} tgt area?
[08:07] {Threei} what is NQ going to do?
[08:07] {BillyD} got it
[08:07] {Threei} :)
[08:08] {Threei} if expanding range pattern holds, drop all the way
[08:08] {Threei} if not, who knows
[08:08] {Threei} stop is just 5 cents, play by the book
[08:09] {Threei} half out
[08:09] {Threei} 1:2
[08:09] {Threei} 27.01 stop
[08:09] {BillyD} same here
[08:09] {Threei} let' it trade or take profit, whatever you fancy
[08:13] {Threei} hmmm... interesting disconnect between NQ and RIMM
[08:14] {BillyD} out some more here
[08:18] {BillyD} out rest ty
[08:18] {Threei} welcome
[08:19] {Chaeron} hi all... sorry I'm late.. :)
[08:19] {Threei} chaeron :)
[08:22] {bruce} hi chaeron
[08:28] {bruce} asia - any read vad?
[08:30] {Threei} not really
[08:30] {bruce} k
[08:31] {bruce} was expecting something like - ttr - page 122 = paragraph 3
[08:31] {Threei} lol
[08:32] {bruce} new training mode
[08:32] {BillyD} I've been keeping my TTR book next to me
[08:32] {bruce} I cuddle with it at night
[08:33] {Threei} uh oh
[08:33] {bruce} lol
[08:34] {Threei} ETFC HEARING BOUTIQUE FIRM SPECULATES E*TRADE COULD BE BOUGHT OUT FOR AROUND $10/SHR
[08:34] {Threei} sigh
[08:37] {bruce} sndk?
[08:38] {Threei} a bit too volatile for my taste... with .40 trigger stop would have to be .10
[08:38] {Threei} if it's tolerable for you, why not
[08:42] {Threei} if you took it, trail stop to .24
[08:46] {bruce} out - got .36 entry and out .5
[08:46] {Threei} scalps r us
[08:47] {bruce} about sums it up
[08:53] {Threei} NVDA long with stop under .50 if NQ shows bounce
[08:54] {Threei} if losing .50 let it be
[08:55] {cosmo} or let it bleed
[09:06] {Threei} LDK seems to be nearing the "drama unfolding" levels
[09:07] {Threei} and all this time it's unavailable for shorting...
[09:11] {Threei} what a trap in the morning BIDZ, eh?
[09:12] {BillyD} since yesterday morning at 20
[09:17] {BillyD} someone throw mud on this mkt
[09:17] {BillyD} like sludge
[09:29] {Threei} EFII
[09:29] {Threei} half lot .40 long
[09:29] {Threei} .29 stop
[09:31] {Threei} FED'S PLOSSER: ECONOMY TO GROW MORE SLOWLY IN COMING MONTHS DESPITE RATE CUT; IF INFLATION PICKS UP, FED MAY NEED TO RAISE RATE
[09:31] {Threei} - repeats Oct cut was largely a risk management move; economic risks not one sided
[09:31] {Threei} - rise in oil, commodities prices suggest significant inflation pressure exist; price expectations are 'more fragile' that 4 months ago; recent
[09:31] {Threei} inflation data has been encouraging
[09:31] {Threei} - says Fed expects economy to rebound by mid 2008 to trend
[09:41] {bruce} nvda broke
[09:44] {Threei} EFII stop to .34
[09:59] {Threei} BIDZ SCHEDULES 4:30PMET CONF CALL TO RESPOND TO A NEGATIVE "RESEARCH REPORT" FROM CITRON RESEARCH YESTERDAY
[10:05] {Threei} no idea what irt means:
[10:05] {Threei} DELL SIMPLIFIES SEARCH WITH GOOG, TO SELL SEARCH APPLIANCES
[10:05] {Threei} minesweepers?
[10:23] {BillyD} any feel for mkt direction here Vad
[10:26] {Threei} pick any
[10:26] {Threei} will be equally valid
[10:26] {Threei} it's just period with no activity at all right now
[10:26] {Threei} it resolves itself into whatever
[10:26] {Threei} up is a little nbit more likely
[10:26] {BillyD} seems so
[10:26] {Threei} but not enough to commit
[10:46] {Threei} market is still locked in tight range
[10:46] {Threei} don't push anything for now
[10:46] {Threei} activity is likely to pick up soon
[10:49] {Threei} ZIXI
[10:49] {Threei} JUSTICE FEDERAL CREDIT UNION SELECTS ZIX CORPORATION FOR EMAIL ENCRYPTION SERVICE
[10:49] {Threei} fluff...
[10:51] {Threei} MLNM .49 short
[10:51] {Threei} just a scalp
[10:53] {Threei} aggressive entry with .61 stop
[10:59] {BillyD} out
[10:59] {Threei} yeah, stronger than market
[10:59] {BillyD} mind of its own
[11:01] {BillyD} JADE
[11:05] {Threei} Feds nonsense on wires again
[11:05] {Threei} FED'S EVANS: OVERLY ACCOMODATIVE POLICY COULD ENDANGER PRICE STABILITY
[11:05] {Threei} - Notes potential US GDP growth now 'slightly above 2.5%", yet 'good deal of uncertainty' in economy, including reduced liquidity as key economic growth risk
[11:05] {Threei} FED OCT DISCOUNT RATE MEETING MINUTES: 6 OF 12 BANKS SAY POSITIVE DATA AND IMPROVING MARKETS
[11:05] {Threei} aand other 6 say negative and deteriorating?
[11:06] {Threei} make your pick
[11:06] {BillyD} no wonder maniac-depressive
[11:10] {Threei} let's see if we get bounce to short into
[11:10] {Threei} feels like down is going to be the theme for the rest of the day
[11:11] {Threei} NVDA, as close to .60 as possible
[11:11] {Threei} BRCM closer to .80
[11:13] {Threei} if no bounce and NQ continues down, NVDA .35 short
[11:13] {Threei} with stop above the high of current bounce
[11:16] {Threei} NVDA keeps its head down
[11:16] {Threei} most likely short candidate
[11:16] {BillyD} BRCM more iffy
[11:16] {Threei} yeah, BRCM follows NQ to the letter while NVDA is weaker
[11:18] {BillyD} right thru it
[11:18] {Threei} NVDA is dancing to the tune
[11:20] {BillyD} sheesh took small scalp on JADE and keeps it going
[11:20] {BillyD} .46 stop on NVDA or .47
[11:21] {Threei} .47
[11:28] {Threei} die already NVDA
[11:28] {BillyD} yeah
[11:29] {BillyD} I added more on bounce into low .40's and cov'd 1/2 .29
[11:30] {BillyD} that blk earlier didn't help
[11:38] {Threei} I parroted you billy
[11:38] {Threei} hope you'll forgive me
[11:39] {Threei} .43 - .31, second lot :)
[11:39] {BillyD} :)
[11:39] {Threei} fiiinally
[11:40] {Threei} covered half of first lot
[11:40] {Threei} sheesh, it's getting complicated
[11:40] {Threei} need calculator
[11:40] {BillyD} out rest here
[11:40] {Threei} ah come on
[11:41] {Threei} sure... leave me alone with this wierdo
[11:41] {BillyD} u r just tougher than me
[11:41] {Threei} no, I am more lazy
[11:41] {Threei} I don't want to be clicking that often
[11:42] {BillyD} it seems the ones I have tried to hold on to, I end up regretting
[11:42] {Threei} (truth be told, I am greedy )
[11:42] {Threei} I can't blame you, on serious note
[11:42] {Threei} market's been whippy today
[11:43] {Threei} it's just that I am having quite nice day with morning plays,
[11:43] {Threei} this one worked nicely with two lots too
[11:43] {BillyD} my situation different than yours I know
[11:43] {Threei} so I have luxury to try and milk it
[11:43] {Threei} yes sir
[11:43] {Threei} never mind my blabbing
[11:43] {BillyD} I have to trade it according to that
[11:44] {BillyD} you say something?
[11:44] {Threei} my feeling is, all htese bounces last 30 min or so is nothing but shakeout attempts
[11:44] {Threei} and we are to see more selling
[11:45] {BillyD} honestly, earlier when Fed made comments and mkt went up I was very surpised
[11:45] {BillyD} hinting towardss no rate cut
[11:45] {Threei} come to papa NVDA
[11:45] {BillyD} very nice
[11:46] {Threei} out
[11:46] {Threei} .03
[11:46] {BillyD} well done
[11:46] {Threei} was it fried to perfection or what
[11:47] {cosmo} ATVI holds21 ...so far
[11:47] {BillyD} we'll see
[11:47] {Threei} I won't
[11:47] {Threei} I take it off screen
[11:47] {BillyD} lol...smart man
[11:47] {Threei} in my mind it was perfect trade even if drops another point :)
[11:47] {Threei} make sure and don't tell me
[11:47] {Threei} (yeah right)
[11:47] {BillyD} that would be mean
[11:48] {Threei} and mean is not what we do here of course
[11:48] {Threei} no sir
[11:48] {Threei} ATVI is suprizingly strong cos...
[11:49] {Threei} hey I peeked... 20 cents bounce NVDA, me happy with my cover
[12:00] {Threei} NQ came into resistance
[12:00] {Threei} watching NVDA for another short
[12:01] {BillyD} how about BRCM
[12:01] {Threei} less willing
[12:01] {BillyD} ok
[12:03] {BillyD} say when
[12:03] {Threei} in
[12:03] {Threei} ugh
[12:03] {Threei} was too fast billy, sorry
[12:04] {BillyD} np
[12:04] {Threei} got .28
[12:04] {Threei} just a scalp
[12:04] {BillyD} have order there
[12:04] {Threei} not counting on much
[12:04] {Threei} out 3/4
[12:05] {BillyD} my NDX bars have gaps of space shoing jumps on these little moves
[12:05] {BillyD} showing
[12:07] {Threei} out in full, losing read here
[12:08] {Threei} feeling is the same, it just becomes a bit too jerky
[12:09] {Threei} notice how BRCM is utterly useless
[12:09] {BillyD} yes
[12:09] {Threei} wouldn't give as much as readable 10 cents
[12:13] {Threei} is it jerky or is it jerky
[12:14] {BillyD} thinking of short but too crazy
[12:14] * Threei sends flowers to his intuition, it works full power today
[12:14] {BillyD} it's almost the only way it seems....intuition
[12:15] {Threei} well... what's inuition if not experience colletcted over years and applied without thinking involved
[12:15] {Threei} "without thinking" is my favorite part
[12:15] {Threei} thinking is too much like work
[12:16] {Threei} and I lost my thinking hat somewhere in bowels of washer
[12:24] {cosmo} Santa wants ATVI
[12:26] {Threei} was a great long off support... sorry I missed it
[12:29] {BillyD} look at that drop down
[12:30] {Threei} it fits into general read I gave earlier... but renders it useless too
[12:31] {bruce} cmtl - risky - any read?
[12:32] {Threei} no... too thin
[12:33] {bruce} k
[12:39] {Threei} whatever it was, I hope traders had fun with it... sheesh
[12:39] {Threei} glad to be on a sideline
[12:40] {BillyD} I ss NVDA at .36 area on the bounce and cov'd at .40 on that spike
[12:41] {BillyD} too crazy
[12:41] {Threei} it's untradeable
[12:41] {BillyD} yeah....I shorted into resistance with small stop
[12:41] {BillyD} worth a try

Session Start: Tue Nov 27 13:23:08 2007
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November 26, 2007

Session Start: Mon Nov 26 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Mon Nov 26 00:00:00 2007

[05:28] {bruce} morning all
[05:30] {BillyD} hi bruce
[05:34] {bruce} hi billy
[05:40] {Threei} HOKU AND SOLARFUN SIGN $306M POLYSILICON SUPPLY CONTRACT- Under the contract, up to approximately $306 million may be payable to Hoku during the eight-year period, subject to product deliveries and other conditions. The contract provides for the delivery of predetermined volumes of polysilicon each year, with the first shipment in the second half of 2009 and continuing over an eight-year period from the first shipment, at set prices that wi
[05:40] {BillyD} morning Vad
[05:41] {Threei} Billy ;0
[05:41] {BillyD} ship date out there
[05:48] {dptl} good morning
[05:49] {bruce} hi dp
[05:50] {Threei} dp, bruce :)
[05:51] {cosmo} solarfun?
[05:52] {Threei} SOLF?
[05:52] {cosmo} ah
[05:58] {bruce} hi cosmo, vad
[05:59] {cosmo} bruce:)
[06:01] {esemde} morning all...
[06:02] {Threei} ese :)
[06:02] {esemde} supose to have snow here today Vad......I hope you didn't bring that with you from Winnipeg
[06:02] {bruce} hi ese
[06:03] {Threei} they promised it for Sat, never happened
[06:03] {bruce} lucky you ese
[06:05] {esemde} is HOKU a solar co.?
[06:05] {Threei} yeah
[06:06] {Threei} was real lagger during solars hoopla
[06:06] {esemde} tks am going to add it to my solar collection.
[06:10] {cosmo} ... it should be fun
[06:10] {Threei} solar fun
[06:10] {cosmo} yea
[06:10] {cosmo} wear a hat
[06:12] {esemde} thing of the future boys....until the sun burns out of course....
[06:13] {cosmo} sometimes i worry about cloud cover
[06:13] {esemde} well then....it's.......wind generators....
[06:14] {cosmo} with photovoltaic blades?
[06:15] {esemde} is that legit cos?
[06:15] {Threei} GGBM
[06:15] {Threei} SIGNS MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH NEXTPHASE WIRELESS TO DEVELOP JOINT VENTURE PARTNERSHIP
[06:15] {cosmo} give it a few years...hehe
[06:17] {esemde} have to do something thats for sure....Oil is a scarce commodity.
[06:17] {cosmo} i also look forward to photovoltaic auto paint
[06:18] {cosmo} ...they pay you to park your car...
[06:19] {esemde} ha ha.......ha ha....
[06:20] {BillyD} Vad...any favorites so far
[06:20] {cosmo} HOKU must hold 8 .. i think
[06:21] {esemde} CSIQ going nuts....
[06:21] {esemde} news?
[06:21] {Threei} HOKU of course... not favorite per se, on watch
[06:21] {Threei} yes ese
[06:21] {Threei} SIGNS $60M ANNUAL SOLAR CELL SUPPLY CONTRACT WITH GINTECH ENERGY CORPORATION FOR 2008
[06:21] {Threei} - The continuation of our collaboration with Gintech is in line with long-term supply strategy, which includes direct purchasing from a selected number of long-term strategic cell suppliers in addition to our internal solar cell production
[06:21] {Threei} 1 min ago
[06:22] {esemde} lots of good news coming out on this stock last week and a half....
[06:22] {esemde} contract after contract
[06:24] {Threei} we assigned "far from done" status to this one... good to see it lives up to expectations
[06:24] {esemde} is it good enough to help it get by 5yr high of 18.88
[06:24] {esemde} i wonder...
[06:28] {BillyD} HOKU is shortable Laser
[06:33] {Threei} remember LUNA?
[06:33] {BillyD} do wewant to
[06:33] {Threei} lol
[06:34] {Threei} was aiming for 8 a few days ago when we first mentioned it
[06:34] {Threei} still verry tough one, low volume
[06:34] {Threei} sneaky climber
[06:34] {cosmo} and a heartbreaker...
[06:37] {Threei} PLUG?
[06:37] {Threei} don't see news
[06:38] {bruce} cree
[06:39] {Threei} CPSL 5.40 break risky long
[06:40] {Threei} 5.24 stop
[06:41] {esemde} GLYT being bought out...up 50% to 94.00 smackers
[06:41] {Threei} half out CPSL
[06:41] {Roman} ZIXI long
[06:41] {Threei} scalpers take profit
[06:41] {esemde} thats one of those dreamin stocks...."what if you'd bought 1000 shs on friday"?
[06:41] {BillyD} good one...missed it
[06:44] {Roman} long ASIA
[06:44] {Roman} slow, had news in the mronig
[06:45] {Threei} 08:03am [ASIA] Announces contract to upgrade China Telecom online self service center
[06:47] {Threei} BRCM short half lot, .91 stop
[06:47] {Threei} first weakness from here
[06:48] {Threei} invalidated if breaks .90
[06:49] {Threei} in
[06:49] {BillyD} .80 here
[06:49] {Threei} 10 cents stop, worth a try
[06:49] {Threei} stocks stays in red while NQ is up 13 points
[06:50] {Threei} wouldn't uptick more than 5 cents while NQ up 3 points
[06:51] {Threei} over 1:1 already
[06:51] {Threei} 1:2, half out
[06:51] {Threei} scalpers take profit
[06:52] {Threei} easy money... my favorite kind
[06:53] {BillyD} yeah
[06:53] {Threei} slap instant gratification on top of that, you have dream come true
[06:53] {BillyD} lol...out in full ty
[06:53] {Threei} welcome :)
[06:53] {esemde} well done all enjoyed watching that....
[06:54] {Threei} only watching?
[06:54] {Threei} SCON?
[06:54] {esemde} yes i'm afraid so vad......tons of work on my desk here....
[06:54] {Threei} oh
[06:54] {Threei} sorry
[06:55] {esemde} am doing both.....busy season for me....
[06:55] {Threei} yeah, you described it last week
[06:55] {Threei} sounded intimidating :)
[06:55] {esemde} it is but fun.....still learning from you all though
[06:56] {Threei} stop to .71 for second half
[06:57] {bruce} was that capitulation trade vad?
[06:57] {esemde} i'm still participating in a small way....bought 100 shs of CSIQ at 14.50 frday to swing trade it
[06:57] {Threei} capitulstion?
[06:57] {Threei} capitulation is a long play on quick selloff
[06:57] {Threei} bottom fishin
[06:58] {Threei} that was short on relative weakness,
[06:58] {Threei} aggressive entry close to resistance
[06:58] {Threei} out BRCM
[06:58] {bruce} k - thoght it just menat overextended in either direction
[06:58] {Threei} overextended upward is euphoria,
[06:58] {BillyD} took MLMN for scalp earlier and it kept going
[06:59] {Threei} and in ane case, it refers to trend reversal play
[06:59] {Threei} BRCM short was trend continuation
[06:59] {bruce} yep - figured that
[06:59] {Threei} :)
[06:59] {Threei} wtg Billy
[06:59] {Threei} I can't come to agreement with this one
[06:59] {BillyD} ty...it was your mention from Friday
[07:00] {BillyD} well...reason for .18 scalp
[07:00] {Threei} yes... I just get shaken out on it more often than I get it right
[07:00] {Threei} its rhythm is not exactly my thing I guess
[07:02] {Threei} ESLR
[07:02] {Threei} trying to catch up with solar revival
[07:02] {BillyD} this one shakes me when it is back to normal
[07:02] {BillyD} JADE acting up
[07:03] {BillyD} not in or chasing here
[07:03] {Threei} DSTI too
[07:03] {Threei} don't jump on any of them
[07:04] {Threei} at this point it's unclear whether mania is back or it's just a water-testing
[07:04] {Threei} my personal feeling is, solar mania will be back and soon enough, but it's not on yet
[07:04] {esemde} DSTI is that solar as well
[07:04] {Threei} yup
[07:04] {Threei} (I think)
[07:05] {BillyD} DSTI....pick entry carefully
[07:05] {BillyD} lol
[07:05] {Threei} when it comes to fundamentals, sectors etc, double chech me please :)
[07:05] {esemde} my solar screen is a sea of green this morning
[07:05] {Roman} long JRJC
[07:06] {Roman} very small
[07:06] {Threei} to me, "it's forming a setup, risk is within my tolerance" is fundamental enough, lol
[07:07] {Threei} FSLR seems to be leading the charge
[07:07] {Threei} ASTI and SOLF are not too hot
[07:07] {Threei} so looks like at this point mania is not really widespread
[07:08] {BillyD} good observation
[07:08] {Threei} tail is not following the head confidently
[07:08] {BillyD} but there is a pulse
[07:10] {Threei} CSUN
[07:10] {Threei} no news that I see
[07:11] {Threei} you are up 2 points of your CSIQ ese
[07:11] {Threei} nicely done
[07:12] {Threei} my understanding is stop was under 14... so it's 1:1 here
[07:13] {Threei} scary trade:
[07:13] {Threei} SEED
[07:13] {Threei} 5.93 long
[07:13] {Threei} stop under .75
[07:14] {esemde} yes...100 shs...
[07:14] {esemde} my stop is at 14
[07:15] {esemde} am gonna let this ride for the rest of the day....and see what happens
[07:15] {Threei} figured that... "I am watching you... I am right behind your shoulder"... (in my best lame horror-movie voice)
[07:15] {esemde} slow and steady hopefully....
[07:16] {esemde} can't really make any money this way but a stress free way to participate until work load dies down a bit
[07:21] {BillyD} HOKU may be a short coming up here
[07:21] {BillyD} just so jumpy
[07:22] {bruce} gigm vad?
[07:22] {Threei} chart is right...
[07:22] {Threei} it's not an easy one to trade
[07:22] {Threei} worth a try half lot
[07:22] {BillyD} GIGM tough imop
[07:23] {Threei} .63 trigger
[07:23] {Threei} by just personality of this stock, I'd say 55/45 trade :)
[07:24] {bruce} not worth it then
[07:26] {_lumdus} .63 trigger on what stock
[07:27] {Threei} GIGM lumdus, answering bruce's question
[07:37] {Threei} forget GIGM
[07:39] {bruce} lol - already did
[07:39] {bruce} any read ffiv vad?
[07:40] {BillyD} HOKU steam
[07:42] {BillyD} any read HOKU Vad
[07:44] {Threei} trying to get a feel for it... not much luck so far
[07:44] {BillyD} it seems to keep you on edge
[07:44] {BillyD} because of its personality
[07:45] {Threei} FFIV... I am not delighted bruce
[07:45] {Threei} kind of marginal trade... not compelling
[07:45] {Threei} I prefer my trades to make me grab them
[07:46] {bruce} k - I thought it was settingh up as a short
[07:46] {Threei} it did as NQ broke down
[07:47] {bruce} yup
[07:47] {bruce} read it right for once
[07:53] {BillyD} FFHL moving
[07:53] {BillyD} days like today u see thes nice moves w/ low volume w/out you
[07:55] {Threei} MENT?
[07:56] {Threei} BRCM another shor setup is coming
[07:56] {Threei} .18 trigger
[07:56] {Threei} .19
[07:56] {Threei} .31 stop
[07:56] {BillyD} in
[07:58] {Threei} LOCM activity
[07:58] {esemde} still a weak market looks like......
[08:00] {esemde} thas another stock that should take off at some point
[08:01] {Threei} LOCM?
[08:01] {esemde} yes
[08:05] {Threei} stopped BRCM
[08:05] {BillyD} yeah
[08:09] {BillyD} charts not loading here
[08:09] {Threei} yes
[08:09] {esemde} HOku at highs...
[08:09] {Threei} yeah, HOKU worth a try half lot .63
[08:09] {Threei} if stays above .45
[08:11] {BillyD} u n Vad
[08:11] {Threei} yes
[08:12] {Threei} missed SCON...
[08:23] {BillyD} BRCM works now
[08:23] {BillyD} NQ spiked us out
[08:23] {Threei} yeah
[08:29] {Threei} charts are coming back
[08:30] {BillyD} yes
[08:31] {Threei} out HOKU
[08:31] {Threei} not confidence
[08:31] {Threei} maybe goes maybe not
[08:32] {BillyD} i got out earlier around even...then rentered .45 for scalp of about .12
[08:32] {Threei} good way to play it
[08:32] {BillyD} pullbacks
[08:35] {Threei} this teleporting is what I dislike on HOKU
[08:35] {BillyD} u are at the mercy
[08:35] {Threei} got ready to break .75, all opf sudden it's 10 cents lower
[08:36] {BillyD} if u can call it mercy
[08:36] {BillyD} lol
[08:48] {BillyD} some fun today eh
[08:49] {Threei} normal fopr monday after holiday
[08:50] {Threei} hangover you know
[08:50] {BillyD} well....I feel better now...hehe
[08:58] {Roman} CTDC
[09:11] {Threei} BEAV
[09:11] {Threei} .21 long trigger, half lot
[09:12] {Threei} 43.09 stop
[09:13] {Threei} maybe too tight... if prefer .04, adjust shares accordingly
[09:15] {Threei} FSLR continues
[09:19] {Threei} wow... look at SWAT spread
[09:19] {Threei} is it even legal?? :)
[09:19] {BillyD} only if you participate
[09:24] {esemde} have a great day everyone.
[09:24] {Threei} take care ese
[09:25] {BillyD} bye ese
[09:26] {bruce} bye ese
[09:28] {bruce} frpt - any read vad?
[09:29] {Threei} 13.10 for scalp
[09:29] {Threei} 12.94 stop
[09:29] {Threei} be careful with this one, it can be quite treacherous
[09:31] {bruce} thanks
[09:42] {Threei} BEAV stop to .14
[09:58] {Threei} DISH
[09:58] {Threei} MOVES HIGHER AFTER THESTREET.COM SAYS TALKS WITH AT&T HAVE COOLED BUT TALKS CONTINUE- source says talks are ongoing about a price in the $60's. Another source says the deal is still happening, just at a slower pace
[10:06] {bruce} daily volume on beav has been dropping last few days vad
[10:06] {bruce} what makes it a good intraday candidate today?
[10:07] {Threei} intraday setup?
[10:07] {bruce} lol
[10:07] {Threei} there is clean JBE on 1 min
[10:07] {bruce} I'm leery of long consolidations
[10:07] {Threei} lower volume on Fri- it was half day don't forget
[10:08] {bruce} I see the [pattern OK but have seen them fail a lot
[10:08] {bruce} true
[10:09] {Threei} in any case, it hit 1:1 twice
[10:09] {Threei} and does it now for a third time
[10:11] {bruce} yup- worked well
[10:11] {bruce} it'sa really obvious pattern
[10:12] {bruce} and I've had a really low succes rate
[10:12] {bruce} with that long breakout pattern
[10:12] {Threei} this is one of my most traded patterns... with very nice success rate
[10:12] {Threei} most of my calls you see are of this kind
[10:14] {bruce} for me - the short consolidations rok fine
[10:14] {bruce} the ones over 30 minutes fail a lot
[10:14] {Threei} this is normal
[10:14] {Threei} same thing with most breakout setups
[10:14] {Threei} triangles are famous for this pattern for instance:
[10:15] {Threei} if breeak occurs with 2/3 till apex, chance of successful break is much higher
[10:15] {Threei} with = within
[10:15] {bruce} k
[10:15] {bruce} neverr put a number to it
[10:15] {bruce} but have noticed exactly that
[10:15] {bruce} the longer they continue
[10:15] {Threei} if I remember correct, TTR mentions this distinctions too
[10:15] {bruce} less likely they will work
[10:16] {bruce} they're beautiful fakeouts
[10:16] {bruce} suck more and more people in - then reverse
[10:18] {Threei} open your copy of TTR, page 142
[10:18] {Threei} Miscullaneous Points
[10:18] {Threei} Point # 1
[10:20] {bruce} k
[10:41] {Threei} out BEAV .40 and .41
[10:44] {BillyD} gj
[10:44] {Threei} booooring trade
[10:45] {Threei} but, you know... bore me with profit
[10:45] {BillyD} profitable
[10:45] {Threei} I am willing to be bored all the way to the bank
[11:00] {bruce} nice play w beqav vad
[11:00] {Threei} ty
[11:00] {Threei} too bad BRCM choose to shake us out first
[11:00] {Threei} would be a very nice short
[11:00] {Threei} especially if we went into coma and forgot we had it
[11:01] {bruce} lol
[11:01] {bruce} I'd like to do some longer holds
[11:02] {bruce} but working on just getting profitable w scalps first
[11:02] {bruce} have to head out
[11:02] {bruce} see you all in am
[11:02] {BillyD} cya
[11:02] {Threei} take care bruce
[11:04] {cosmo} MLNM hod = 14.94 fwiw
[11:06] {cosmo} SKIL tests @ 10
[11:23] {Threei} NVDA long with .14 stop
[11:23] {Threei} first strength from here
[11:25] {Threei} in
[11:25] {Threei} 5 cents stop
[11:26] {BillyD} same here
[11:27] {Threei} lol... 1;1 is reached {G}
[11:27] {Threei} not selling of course
[11:28] {BillyD} lol
[11:28] {Threei} first half out above .30
[11:28] {BillyD} ok
[11:29] {Threei} beauty of aggressive entry
[11:33] {BillyD} out some here
[11:33] {Threei} perfect example of anticipatory trade
[11:34] {Threei} NQ looked like upward turn at the moment,
[11:34] {BillyD} they are always perfect when they work
[11:34] {Threei} .31 looked like long trigger with .14 stop,
[11:34] {Threei} NVDA sat sloce to support,
[11:34] {Threei} making aggressive entry very low risk one
[11:34] {BillyD} yes
[11:35] {_lumdus} csco above 27.80 i think
[11:35] {Threei} and before cosmo asks... sloce is close typed by dyslexic
[11:37] {_lumdus} in csco .80
[11:42] {BillyD} Vad...stop still .14
[11:43] {Threei} yup
[11:46] {BillyD} out
[11:50] {Threei} in again
[11:50] {Threei} just a quick scalp
[11:50] {Threei} .99 stop
[11:52] {_lumdus} would be nice a reversal hre
[11:52] {Threei} good chance for that, and very tight stop
[11:52] {Threei} can take play like this just on risk alone
[11:52] {Threei} out half .10
[11:53] {_lumdus} oh.. just looking for pennies today. hey better then losing
[11:54] {_lumdus} i still like csco if we can get some reversal
[11:54] {BillyD} it seems when I look for more than pennies today...I give back the other half of the first pennies
[11:54] {Threei} this is lunch time, this is Monday, jerky shaky market, several nice wins under the belt...
[11:54] {Threei} don't need much right now
[11:55] {_lumdus} small jerkey pops . that's about it, can't get much more then .001
[11:56] {Threei} .001?
[11:56] {Threei} that would be a bit too small :)
[11:56] {Threei} out balance
[11:56] {BillyD} in MLNM .96
[12:04] {BillyD} mkt not helping
[12:06] {Threei} well, your stock is sitting tight
[12:06] {Threei} I'd say, good pick
[12:06] {BillyD} lol
[12:06] {BillyD} talk more please
[12:06] {Threei} {MLNM} oh you think you can talk me down?
[12:07] {BillyD} ok...fess up you hit the fat finger
[12:07] {Threei} nope... I am in coma
[12:08] {Threei} {market} since when it kept you from trading...
[12:13] {BillyD} MLNM now
[12:13] {BillyD} now I said
[12:13] {BillyD} Vad...start singing
[12:14] {Threei} oh you don't want that
[12:14] {Threei} believe you me
[12:15] {BillyD} I guess I need to think of your family
[12:15] {Threei} when I sing people break windows in futile attempt to escape the horror
[12:16] {BillyD} lol
[12:17] {BillyD} have mad some anticipatory trades and then rationalized maybe I was guessing too much only too bail and then see them do what you anticipated
[12:17] {BillyD} gotta stick w/ the small voice inside
[12:17] {Threei} if you ever see ese running for cover, desperately trying to get asylum in another country and complaining to UN about cruel and unusual punishment or torture - you know I sang in his presence
[12:17] {BillyD} roflol
[12:19] {Threei} out MLNM .07
[12:19] {Threei} ty billy :)
[12:20] {BillyD} yw
[12:20] {BillyD} out 1/2 +.10
[12:26] {Threei} whoa CSIQ
[12:26] {Threei} serious selloff
[12:26] {Threei} due to bounce
[12:26] {Threei} in half lot
[12:26] {Threei} stop under .50
[12:30] {Threei} won't let it lose .75 on me
[12:30] {Threei} out
[12:30] {Threei} lousy +.6 cents...
[12:30] {Threei} wanted much bigger bounce but not going to risk another sharp drop
[12:30] {BillyD} yeah
[12:34] {_lumdus} put stop oat break even for csiq
[12:36] {BillyD} out rest MLNM +.06
[12:39] {Threei} good out Billy
[12:40] {Threei} WIRES REPORT NEW BIN LADEN TAPE RELEASED ADDRESSING EUROPEANS
[12:40] {BillyD} thx....spinning wheels day here
[12:40] {Threei} quite nice day money wise
[12:40] {Threei} boring, yeah
[12:40] {BillyD} that guy picks on everyone
[12:40] {Threei} but I really don't mind
[12:40] {BillyD} not $ day for me
[12:41] {Threei} I think you undersize those aggressive entry plays
[12:41] {BillyD} that is exactly part of problem
[12:41] {Threei} when I have 4-5 cents stop on liquid stocks I don't really hold back
[12:42] {BillyD} then I find I have to keep pushing trades
[12:42] {Threei} with such tiny stop and potentially small target, why not play bigger size
[12:42] {BillyD} my better trades earlier I got small fills
[12:42] {BillyD} your right though.....
[12:43] {Threei} 12 cents is fine with 1K, not much sense with half lot, considerably nice with 2-3K
[12:43] {Threei} that's the point of agressive entries, right?
[12:43] {BillyD} yeah......this is then conclusion I have been coming to
[12:43] {Threei} to minimize the stop
[12:44] {Threei} so your risk is smaller
[12:44] {BillyD} just in my trades overall....I need to increase size unless volatility doesn't warrant
[12:44] {Threei} but your risk tolerance is the same
[12:44] {Threei} you would cut down shares size if play required wider stop
[12:44] {BillyD} yes
[12:44] {Threei} so why wouldn't you increase size when play allows for a very tight stop...
[12:44] {Threei} works both ways :)
[12:45] {BillyD} true :)
[12:47] {_lumdus} so let's have some good old rally eod at least... comon
[12:57] {Threei} not much of a rally... oh well
[13:02] {Threei} thank you all
[13:02] {Threei} havce a good evening, see you tomorrow
[13:02] {BillyD} cya tomorrow

November 23, 2007

Session Start: Fri Nov 23 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Fri Nov 23 00:00:00 2007

Session Close: Thu Nov 22 13:08:34 2007


Session Start: Fri Nov 23 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Fri Nov 23 00:00:00 2007

[05:29] {Threei} FORMER FED CHAIR GREENSPAN SAYS POLICY MAKERS MAY NEED TO ADDRESS THE WEAK USD
[05:29] {Threei} - If not for flexibility in the US economy the chances of a recession would be above 50%
[05:29] {Threei} muzzzle... urgent
[05:29] {BillyD} it picks up where we left off
[05:29] {BillyD} good morning
[05:30] {Threei} there should be continuation, shouldn't it
[05:30] {Threei} hi :)
[05:30] {Threei} ummm... continuity
[05:31] {Threei} (CA) FIN MIN FLAHERTY: PLEASED TO SEE C$ AT MORE 'REASONABLE' RANGE
[05:31] {Threei} yeah me too
[05:31] {Threei} akthough I consider $1.50 more reasonable than parity {G}
[05:34] {cosmo} ETFC 4.50 - 4.60 range ...so far
[05:34] {BillyD} "They came to hit tonight," Carpenter said. "I think tonight, we were overmatched."
[05:34] {BillyD} this is the statement from ASU's quarterback after getting beat up last night and an almost concussion
[05:35] {Threei} at first it sounded more like quote from Alice in Wonderland
[05:35] {BillyD} lol
[05:37] {cosmo} it was a mad trukey bowl
[05:37] {BillyD} mad or bad
[05:37] {cosmo} hmm
[05:37] {cosmo} thinking
[05:38] {Threei} oh no
[05:39] {cosmo} it was bad that Barkley left so soon...
[05:39] {Threei} I am having headaches even from simple reading word "thinking"
[05:41] {cosmo} I like the fact that both coaches are good thinkers tho
[05:41] {BillyD} i could Marcus Allen on field but Barkley...
[05:42] {BillyD} USC players were just bigger, stronger and tougher
[05:42] {cosmo} they'd make terrible traders tho
[05:42] {BillyD} couldn't believe
[05:45] {cosmo} they(ASU) might have been caught thinking ahead to UofA
[05:45] {cosmo} hehe ...sorry
[06:09] {dptl} good morning all
[06:10] {BillyD} morning Dp
[06:10] {Threei} dp :)
[06:11] {BillyD} let's see if CPSL gets folllow thru
[06:12] {cosmo} TIBX up-graded fwiw
[06:14] {dptl} so its short day today?
[06:14] {Threei} yes
[06:14] {dptl} ty
[06:15] {Threei} not counting on much... if we get couple safe scalps I'll be satisfied
[06:15] {Threei} a lot of players don't bother today, just take one loong weekend
[06:15] {Threei} the only reason market is open at all is 3 days rule
[06:17] {dino} gm all
[06:17] {BillyD} dino :)
[06:17] {Threei} dino :)
[06:17] {bruce} hello dino
[06:18] {dino} :)
[06:18] {esemde} morning .....
[06:19] {Threei} ese :)
[06:20] {bruce} hi ese
[06:21] {esemde} hi vad bruce.....what is the 3 day rule
[06:21] {Threei} investors must not be left with no access to their money for more than 3 days in a row
[06:21] {esemde} hmmmm i didn't know that....
[06:22] {Threei} so when there is a holiday around the weekend, on Tuesday or on Thursday, instead of having 4 days of holiday they insert half day trading on Mon or Fri
[06:22] {BillyD} didn't realize that included weekends
[06:22] {Threei} this is the only reason we have these half day markets
[06:23] {bruce} is today 1/2 only?
[06:23] {Threei} yes
[06:23] {BillyD} wow....you are full of facts
[06:23] {BillyD} 1pm ET Bruce
[06:23] {bruce} good to know
[06:23] {Threei} problem is billy... they are random and unsorted
[06:23] {bruce} hate to be stuck in trade on close
[06:24] {Threei} so unless you get lucky and ask me right question, I am useless :)
[06:24] {BillyD} I look for patterns Vad
[06:25] {cosmo} ETFC possible double botto..on the daily
[06:25] {Threei} if I adjust to today's market I'll have none {G}
[06:25] {cosmo} bottom
[06:25] {Threei} interested to see if CAST uses this low volume day to jump through resistance
[06:26] {Threei} overall, CAST so far is a classic case of early accumulation stage
[06:26] {BillyD} w/ the buying u would think CAST alreay pop
[06:26] {Threei} not necessary
[06:26] {Threei} early accumulation is a stage where "they" are trying to collect as many shares as possible without attracting attention
[06:27] {BillyD} yes
[06:27] {BillyD} longer the better eh
[06:27] {Threei} so as soon as movement becomes too obvious, price or volume or both wise
[06:27] {Threei} "they" retreat, drop bids, stop buying
[06:27] {Threei} and could even put out offers
[06:27] {Threei} to get the stock off the radars again,
[06:28] {Threei} until "they" are about done accumulating.
[06:28] {Threei} Then the movement will be allowed to become conspicous
[06:28] {Threei} to attract the crowds and provide momentum
[06:29] {BillyD} makes sense
[06:29] {Threei} basics of tape reading...
[06:29] {BillyD} you've seen this before
[06:29] {Threei} speaking of which... don't forget to check latest blog entry
[06:29] {Threei} written out of desperation {G}
[06:29] {Threei} can't see this question anymore without getting all like "what... again???"
[06:30] {Threei} http://www.realitytrader.com/blog/2007/11/whats-in-name-or-what-is-tape-reading.html
[06:30] {bruce} daily on cast only goes back 2 weeks on my charts
[06:30] {Threei} yes, it's one of those relatively new chinese arrivals
[06:31] {Threei} traded on diff market before, started on NASDAQ recently
[06:31] {Threei} there were quite a bit of those recently
[06:32] {Threei} we were going to keep an eye on ZIXI
[06:32] {BillyD} yes
[06:35] {Threei} NUAN long, if 19.50 melts down
[06:35] {Threei} let's see where it bottoms out before triggering
[06:35] {Threei} under .35 I lose interest
[06:38] {Threei} lost
[06:40] {Threei} BRCM half lot short .34
[06:40] {bruce} ltd long vaed?
[06:40] {Threei} .36 trigger bruce
[06:40] {dino} sprd
[06:43] {dino} hl l .81
[06:43] {dino} stop .35
[06:44] {Threei} BRCM stop .46
[06:44] {dino} tighten to .47
[06:45] {Threei} .51 is valid too, but I prefer to keep them very tight today
[06:46] {BillyD} take out that bid we be good
[06:46] {Threei} yeah, .25 is defining
[06:47] {dino} avtr
[06:48] {Threei} moment of truth BRCM
[06:48] {BillyD} doing 1/2
[06:51] {Threei} chart wise, stop can be trailed to .41... but it was so tight to begin with, I'll just leave it where it is
[06:51] {Threei} to decrease the chance of shakeout
[06:51] {BillyD} u going for 1:1 on 1/2
[06:52] {Threei} yeah
[06:52] {Threei} was bidding .21, never got it
[06:52] {BillyD} tried .22 w/ no fill
[06:52] {BillyD} same here initially
[06:52] {Threei} that big bid at .20 kept it
[06:52] {BillyD} bumped up
[06:52] {Threei} and marklet bounce
[06:53] {Threei} (as soon as anyone figures out what markLet is, let me know please)
[06:53] {Threei} bounce was quite pathetic on BRCM
[06:53] {BillyD} out some at .23
[06:54] {Threei} got hit for some at .21
[06:54] {Threei} less than half though
[06:54] {Threei} gotta get it nor
[06:54] {Threei} or not
[06:54] {cosmo} ETFC salmon ...beats turkey
[06:54] {BillyD} bid at .20 getting smaller
[06:54] {Threei} yeah, bidder is having second thoughts
[06:55] {Threei} can't blame him really
[06:55] {Threei} LTD is holding like champ bruce
[06:56] {bruce} so far - yes
[06:57] {Threei} stop to .41 this time on BRCM
[06:57] {BillyD} ok
[06:57] {Threei} cosmo, ETFC CNBC'S FABER: COMPANY IN TALKS TO SELL ITSELF
[06:58] {cosmo} don't we all
[06:58] {Threei} yeah but Faber doesn't talk about us
[06:58] {Threei} for some unknown reason
[06:58] {cosmo} its early
[07:00] {BillyD} ss JADE .49
[07:01] {Threei} lol, I always get amazed when this kind is available for shorting
[07:02] {Threei} wow ETFC
[07:02] {Threei} bravo faber
[07:03] {Threei} we are not getting much conrtinuation on the downside
[07:03] {BillyD} no
[07:05] {Roman} long BRLC
[07:05] {Roman} 2.94 slow
[07:07] {bruce} thoughts on gsk as short continuation vad?
[07:07] {Threei} don't see any etup on it
[07:08] {Roman} CC
[07:08] {Roman} long
[07:08] {Roman} 5.87
[07:09] {Roman} full size
[07:09] {Threei} what's with it Roman?
[07:09] {Roman} mentioned on CNBC
[07:09] {Roman} also possible buyout
[07:09] {Threei} ty
[07:11] {dino} tsl l .35, hl
[07:11] {dino} stop .98
[07:12] {dino} silc pop
[07:17] {_lumdus} nvls was nice setup
[07:20] {BillyD} out BRCM
[07:23] {Threei} NVLS tries 2 days break
[07:23] {Threei} not sure how much we can trust it today
[07:24] {_lumdus} got in, i guess stop .29
[07:24] {Threei} what price did you get on entry?
[07:24] {_lumdus} .33
[07:25] {Threei} not bad for such a tight stop
[07:25] {_lumdus} don't like the action today .. if i get this fine, if not enough watch for me.
[07:25] {Threei} that's the theme of the day
[07:25] {Threei} low volume aumless wandering day
[07:26] {Threei} aimless
[07:26] {BillyD} BRCM just enough to stop Vad
[07:26] {Threei} NVLS looks salmonish
[07:26] {Threei} yeah
[07:27] {BillyD} Vad ? on BRCM setup
[07:27] {bruce} aumless?
[07:28] {Threei} [10:24] {Threei} aimless
[07:28] {BillyD} u didn't put too much thought into shorting it into yesterdays resistance at around .31 area w/ chart showing .20 support
[07:28] {bruce} ah
[07:28] {bruce} hought you meant almless
[07:28] {BillyD} it was a pivotal area from yesterday when I was watching
[07:29] {dino} tsl stopped
[07:29] {Threei} it was just a matter of market help with continuation Billy
[07:29] {_lumdus} nvls keeps consolidating at the top maybe good for another run
[07:30] {hawkfan4} Roman thx for CC, very nice
[07:30] {BillyD} ok..
[07:30] {Roman} out 1/2 CC +.36
[07:30] {Threei} yeah CC is a little gem
[07:30] {Roman} i think it got more
[07:30] {Roman} but need to lock in some profits
[07:31] {Threei} hard pullback ETFC
[07:33] {BillyD} Vad...did you see the reversal on ETFC pb
[07:34] {BillyD} was waiting for another little spike down
[07:34] {Threei} I still don't see it really :)
[07:34] {Threei} low volume bounce
[07:35] {Roman} scalped little ETFC vad, ty
[07:35] {BillyD} I meant the small bounce
[07:35] {Threei} it's a news/speculation driven stock
[07:39] {bruce} any read bont vad?
[07:40] {Threei} not with this volume
[07:40] {bruce} k
[07:40] {bruce} thanx
[07:47] {Threei} RIMM long small, stop under 113
[07:49] {bruce} l rimm .16
[07:58] {BillyD} anyone seeing any follow thru
[07:59] {dino} no
[08:00] {BillyD} ty....thought I was all alone....
[08:00] {BillyD} everyone left early and didn't tell me
[08:01] {esemde} Vad when does the market close our time
[08:02] {Threei} whipping out calculator
[08:02] {esemde} 9:30am
[08:02] {Threei} 1 pm - 3 h diff = 10 am
[08:02] {esemde} ah...ha
[08:04] {Threei} half out RIMM
[08:05] {BillyD} good one
[08:05] {Threei} stop to .09
[08:05] {Threei} and if I were smart I'd just take full scalp
[08:06] {BillyD} you're not?
[08:06] {Threei} apparently {G}
[08:07] {Threei} and here comes proof
[08:08] {BillyD} beauty of the mkt eh
[08:08] {_lumdus} wow that was a quick one, didn't even see it go up
[08:08] {Threei} it spent considerable time avoer .40
[08:09] {Threei} over
[08:11] {bruce} you were right - not much follow through today vad
[08:11] {dino} bidu lod
[08:12] {_lumdus} 3i, yes it did, just when you start trading again takes time to wake up. it's fine
[08:12] {Threei} wake up?
[08:12] {Threei} you mean you are not trading in your sleep?
[08:12] {Threei} I thought we all did
[08:17] {bruce} chnr pop
[08:18] {Threei} no news that I see
[08:18] {dino} hl l wynn .30, stop .89
[08:20] {bruce} bidz is trending today
[08:24] {dino} wynn stopped
[08:24] {bruce} yep - no worky wynn
[08:25] {dino} out sprd flat
[08:25] {dino} s rimm .79
[08:26] {_lumdus} maybe nvls go now
[08:27] {Threei} sure held very well
[08:28] {bruce} cc has held near top as well
[08:29] {_lumdus} i also like nyse stock sometime so i bought f
[08:29] {_lumdus} f = Ford
[08:32] {Threei} CSIQ some activity...
[08:33] {esemde} i stopped following it as per your instructions....will check it out
[08:33] {dino} stopped rimm, i suck today
[08:33] {esemde} well well wel,,,,,
[08:33] {Threei} it got upgraded by someone I've never heard about
[08:34] {bruce} its the market dino - not a lot of big moves today to retrace
[08:34] {esemde} too many analysts out there in my opinion
[08:34] {Threei} if there were 3 of them that would be 3 too many
[08:34] {dino} yeah, should've stayed home.
[08:35] {bruce} analysts are needed
[08:35] {bruce} the market makers use them to manipulate the naive public
[08:37] {esemde} definately....
[08:37] {esemde} or should i say .....indeed
[08:40] {bruce} lol
[08:40] {bruce} and you can add indubitably too ese
[08:41] {esemde} this is classic though.....dump the thing dow 4 bucks or so....institutions fill boots.....upgrade the stock......nahhhhhh...no manipulation in these markets....not at all
[08:41] {bruce} acgy vadster?
[08:41] {dino} tbsi l hl .10
[08:41] {bruce} acgy
[08:41] {bruce} sorry
[08:43] {bruce} remember that "if I hade a hammer" song" ese?
[08:43] {esemde} definately.....
[08:43] {bruce} can hum that tune too
[08:43] {bruce} if I had a nickel
[08:44] {_lumdus} nvls go little boy now !
[08:44] {bruce} for evry analyst fakeout
[08:44] {bruce} I'd be able to retire
[08:44] {bruce} and to buy my own country
[08:45] {bruce} hmm - its catchy
[08:46] {esemde} this is why Vads method of trading is the only way to go...i got tired of ....(use your own expletive deletive here!!!!)...types of trading. nothing but BS as far as i'm concerned
[08:46] * Threei opens his vocabulary of expletives
[08:47] {esemde} i can provide you with a few if you like?
[08:47] {Threei} happily... I lack in english part of it
[08:47] {Threei} russian is very rich though
[08:47] {esemde} vodka induced?
[08:48] {Threei} oh it stands on its own :)
[08:48] {Threei} russian is really really rich in that regard,lol
[08:48] {esemde} indeed.....
[08:49] {_lumdus} nvls to 27 i think
[08:49] {BillyD} nice one lumdus
[08:49] {Threei} very... typical salmon today
[08:50] {_lumdus} how is the volume today ? decent ?
[08:50] {Threei} by no means
[08:50] {esemde} my trading will be very limited for the next month anyway.....busiest time of the year for a musician.....26 events am booked for up until december 22nd.....too many details and things to think about....
[08:50] {Threei} wow
[08:50] {BillyD} out some Hade +.06
[08:50] {BillyD} JADE
[08:51] {BillyD} slow one
[08:51] {esemde} start with TD bank of canada christmas party tomorrow......fundraiser for Queen Alexandria hospital for children monday....and on it goes
[08:52] {dino} have fun w/it ese
[08:52] {esemde} hey.......maybe if i'm on the ball enough...i should ask TDbank if they wouldn't mind funding my trading account???hmmmmm
[08:53] {Threei} sure... but nooo, al you thought about was hot tellers at the party
[08:53] {esemde} tks dino...it is fun...have been doing it all my life
[08:53] {bruce} banks - give money?
[08:53] {Threei} lol... good one bruce
[08:53] {esemde} and they do have some
[08:53] {Threei} oxymoron isn't it
[08:54] {bruce} thats like - "analysts are poor honest folks" ese
[08:54] {esemde} yuk yuk yuk...
[08:56] {Threei} aren't they?
[08:57] {bruce} you bet vad
[08:57] {bruce} just ask any market maker
[08:57] {bruce} acgy continues
[09:05] {Roman} out CC in full
[09:05] {bruce} congrats roman
[09:06] {bruce} at the risk of missing a huge market move -
[09:06] {bruce} I'm going to call it a week here
[09:06] {Threei} I really doubt you are going to miss anything bruce
[09:07] {bruce} my thoughts too
[09:07] {bruce} have a great weekend all
[09:07] {bruce} see you monday
[09:07] {Threei} take care bruce
[09:07] {BillyD} cya
[09:07] {Roman} later bruce
[09:09] {Threei} you partialed any on NVLS, lumdus?
[09:10] {_lumdus} no not yet
[09:11] {_lumdus} but my stop is now .57 so locked in some nice profit
[09:12] {esemde} CSIG?...
[09:13] {esemde} THIN VOLUME
[09:16] {Threei} ETFC is trying again
[09:17] {Threei} 5.41 worth a try for scalp with .34 stop
[09:21] {_lumdus} nvls reloading again
[09:23] {BillyD} out rest JADE +.08...
[09:23] {Roman} market closes at 1:00 p.m. EST today?
[09:23] {BillyD} tes
[09:24] {Roman} ty
[09:24] {BillyD} yes
[09:25] {Threei} MLNM interesting
[09:29] {_lumdus} nvls & f starting to work
[09:31] {_lumdus} we close early today ?
[09:32] {Threei} [12:21] {Roman} market closes at 1:00 p.m. EST today?
[09:32] {Threei} [12:22] {BillyD} yes
[09:32] {_lumdus} thank you .. missed
[09:32] {_lumdus} 3i, you think EOD rally comming ?
[09:33] {Threei} equal chance for a drop
[09:34] {Threei} anyone's guess on a low volume holiday day
[09:34] {_lumdus} ok, i make close stop on nvls .67
[09:44] {_lumdus} stop on nvls .74 now
[09:46] {esemde} man...what was that upgrade on CSIQ....
[09:46] {Threei} I doubt it's an effect of that upgrade
[09:47] {esemde} NQ?
[09:47] {Threei} today is hard to use as an indicator, volume is too low
[09:47] {_lumdus} ok,
[09:47] {Threei} overall, CSIQ hit sweet spot for bounce, and as we discussed earlier, it's far from being done most likely
[09:48] {Threei} what I like about today's move on it though
[09:48] {Threei} it was sustainable slow steady move
[09:48] {Threei} no hysterical scream
[09:48] {esemde} so you figure more upward potential
[09:49] {Threei} sooner or later, yes... just hard to tell if it found the support yet
[09:49] {Threei} were today normal trading day I would say confidently yes
[09:49] {_lumdus} out nvls .85 nice weekedn all
[09:49] {Threei} good job lumdus
[09:49] {Threei} have a good one
[09:50] {_lumdus} thank you
[09:50] {dino} out tbsi .01 -.09
[09:50] {dino} calling it a week. taking monday and tuesday off.
[09:50] {dino} gj limdus
[09:51] {Threei} take care dino, get your rest
[09:51] {BillyD} cya dino
[09:52] {dino} thx
[09:55] {Threei} ok guys, thak you all, have a great weekend
[09:55] {Threei} see you LL ON mONDAY
[09:55] {BillyD} u 2
[09:55] {dptl} see ya monday :)
[09:56] {cosmo} what's a LL?
[09:56] {Threei} all with caps lock hit instead of A
[09:56] {Threei} which omitted a and capitalized LL
[09:56] {cosmo} sheesh
[09:57] {Threei} you asked :)
[09:57] {cosmo} :)

November 21, 2007

Session Start: Wed Nov 21 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Wed Nov 21 00:00:00 2007

[08:03] {Threei} CPSL REPORTS Q1 $0.08; R$25.3M V $10.5M Y/Y- China Precision Steel's new cold-rolled mill with 150,000 metric tons of design capacity is operating at 40% utilization. It is expected to reach 50% utilization by the end of calendar year 2007. The Company has plans to commence the construction of a third mill with 150,000 metric tons of capacity in the first quarter of 2008.
[08:06] {BillyD} morning Vad
[08:07] {Threei} morning :)
[08:09] {BillyD} enjoying your TTR again
[08:10] {BillyD} has much deeper meaning this time
[08:10] {Threei} you really are pushing me into reading it...
[08:10] {BillyD} lol
[08:10] {Threei} but I know what you mean
[08:10] {Threei} I recieve e-mails saying things like
[08:10] {Threei} it reads very differently with time and experience
[08:11] {Threei} getting deeper levels, more meaning
[08:11] {BillyD} yes
[08:11] {Threei} I take it as a great compliment, means book is really well written
[08:11] {Threei} not "flat"
[08:11] {BillyD} example...a trader must always be in continous learning and development
[08:12] {BillyD} whem we stop learning we close down the growth and capacity of our minds
[08:12] {BillyD} which can somewhat send us backwards by default
[08:12] {Threei} PREVIEW: US INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS DATA DUE OUT AT 8:30AM ET
[08:12] {Threei} - Continuing Claims seen at 2.575M v prior 2.568M
[08:13] {Threei} or we simply fall behind
[08:13] {BillyD} yes
[08:13] {Threei} things change in markets,
[08:13] {Threei} not in fundamental way, but in tactical way
[08:13] {Threei} gotta roll with punches
[08:14] {Threei} mania in particular sector comes, you deploy different style of trading
[08:14] {BillyD} I think that is what takes the edge of tightness off
[08:14] {BillyD} flexible
[08:14] {Threei} right
[08:14] {Threei} mania ends, you go back to "regular" trading
[08:15] {Threei} when chinese stocks mania hit a while ago, my daily takeout increased by factor 3
[08:15] {BillyD} there is a difference between being disciplined in execution of trades and flexible in trading different mkts
[08:15] {Threei} would be a shame not to use such opportunity
[08:18] {BillyD} a key is finding your own edge or style of trading...setups you see that generate impulse to enter trade
[08:19] {Threei} bringing structure to chaos
[08:21] {BillyD} u don't have turkey day tomorrow right
[08:22] {Threei} no, ours happened at the end of Oct
[08:25] {Threei} what day(s) is market closed?
[08:25] {BillyD} tomorrow and half day friday
[08:25] {Threei} good thing I asked
[08:25] {BillyD} 1 pm ET on friday
[08:26] {BillyD} yes......
[08:26] {BillyD} do you know if your CPU is dual core or not
[08:26] {Threei} this holiday always gets me because of difference between Canada and US versions
[08:27] {Threei} how do I find that out? :)
[08:27] {BillyD} not sure
[08:27] {BillyD} age of your pc
[08:27] {BillyD} ?
[08:28] {Threei} year and half
[08:28] {BillyD} ok
[08:29] {Threei} it's customary built so I don't have any manufacturer manuals
[08:29] {BillyD} maybe if it says "AMD 64 X2" what I can tell from Google
[08:29] {Threei} no x2
[08:29] {Threei} says 3200+
[08:29] {BillyD} ok
[08:29] {Threei} whatever that means
[08:30] {Threei} it's 64 bit processor
[08:30] {BillyD} but AMD is faster than the single core Intel.....
[08:30] {Threei} *(CA) SEPT RETAIL SALES M/M: -0.2% V 0.0%E; LESS AUTO M/M: 0.1% V 0.3%E
[08:31] {Threei} maybe our loonie finally gives up
[08:31] {Threei} *INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 330K V 330KE; CONTINUING CLAIMS: 2.566M V 2.575ME
[08:31] {Threei} - Prior Continuing Claims Revised from 2.568M to 2.559M
[08:31] {Threei} yup, USD just shot up vs CAD... here is to hope
[08:32] {BillyD} the US debt gonna kill us globally
[08:32] {Threei} well, funny thing is so far it kills everyone else
[08:33] {Threei} it's like troubles are getting artfully exported
[08:33] {BillyD} kind of like cooking books
[08:33] {BillyD} sweeping under carpet
[08:33] {Threei} no, not really
[08:33] {Threei} everyone sees troubles
[08:34] {Threei} but heavy involvement of various world banks in subprime causes problems well outside of US borders,,
[08:35] {Threei} weakening dollar hits other countries first,
[08:35] {Threei} you will feel its impact later, when WalMart prices shoot up
[08:36] {BillyD} I see what u mean
[08:36] {BillyD} US can withstand losses a bit better
[08:37] {BillyD} they just print more bandaid money
[08:37] {Threei} whole world hopes so
[08:37] {Threei} well, except Chaves
[08:37] {Threei} :)
[08:37] {BillyD} yeah.....
[08:37] {Threei} well, printing banaid money gotta stop...
[08:37] {BillyD} printing more money just effects eventual debt problem
[08:38] {Threei} but for that someone would have to re-evaluate alan greenspan's legacy
[08:38] {BillyD} I saw him on TV prgram
[08:38] {Threei} and whole concept of monthly regulated interest rate
[08:39] {BillyD} and he said they were trying to raise interest rates but were too slow and was main reason we are in Real Estate fiasco
[08:39] {Threei} lol
[08:39] {BillyD} they made it too easy......a dash of greed and you know the rest
[08:39] {BillyD} greed from system players to the retail
[08:40] {Threei} everything is so clear in hindsight
[08:40] {Threei} but at the moment, they had a lot of pressing concerns making them lower rates
[08:40] {BillyD} greed is emotion....clouds judgement
[08:40] {Threei} and those concerns were very different
[08:41] {BillyD} yes with later effects
[08:41] {Threei} it's not that RE bubble bursted they see how they constructed it
[08:41] {Threei} not = now
[08:41] {Threei} back then they were saying great, rising re prices save our economy at the moment
[08:42] {BillyD} funny...all the things we learn in trading with emotions/discipline
[08:42] {Threei} cure vs illness anyone?
[08:42] {BillyD} is totally applicable to life
[08:42] {Threei} absolutely
[08:42] {BillyD} in trading....they are right in front of you...less forging or rewarding immediately
[08:42] {Threei} isn't it widelt acknowledged fact that rate change takes about 18 months to work its way through economy?
[08:42] {BillyD} in life provides life to denila
[08:43] {BillyD} denial
[08:43] {BillyD} yeaH...AND THEY HOPEW THE PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECT WILL SUFFICE UNTIL WE GET THERE
[08:43] {BillyD} sorry
[08:43] {Threei} so how regulating them on monthly basis makes sense?
[08:44] {Threei} and how 11 hikes in a row, then 13 cuts in a row make sense?
[08:44] {BillyD} actually adds to nuerotcism
[08:44] {BillyD} too much volatility
[08:45] {BillyD} think about the childishness
[08:45] {Threei} they just added another factor in markets equation
[08:45] {BillyD} mkt gets rate cut.....immediately it iws ok when is our next one
[08:45] {BillyD} true another variable
[08:45] {Threei} no slightest evidence that since fed started regulating interest rate inflation is under more control or crises are less frequent
[08:46] {Threei} unpegging from gold standard is whole separate story
[08:46] {Threei} mad money printing/exporting
[08:47] {Threei} some business books have this analogy:
[08:47] {BillyD} well...it really comes down to the whole masses taking more responsibility for their lives, accountability, discipline, living within means, etc
[08:47] {Threei} you are trying to get the right water temperature in the shower with single handle
[08:47] {BillyD} lol
[08:47] {Threei} open it, it's scolding hot,
[08:48] {Threei} your first reaction is to turn it quickly to the opposite
[08:48] {Threei} water turns cold
[08:48] {Threei} you start controlling your movements
[08:48] {Threei} trying to get right temperature in the fork.
[08:48] {Threei} Eventually you succedd of course,
[08:48] {Threei} and it take certain time.
[08:49] {BillyD} a few burns here and there
[08:49] {Threei} So, this time is way longer
[08:49] {Threei} and effort is much greater
[08:49] {Threei} than it would be were you slowly moving the handle to the colder part of the range.
[08:49] {BillyD} isn't a system that feeds human weakness
[08:50] {Threei} it happenbs because of the delayed feedback
[08:50] {Threei} since temperature isn't changing immediately after your move,
[08:50] {Threei} you tend to overshoot target.
[08:51] {Threei} when you overshoot targets on each side and try to narrow the range of your movement, it's less optimal then slowly moving to the teraget and waiting for feedback to make its way through the system.
[08:51] {BillyD} the need for instant gratification
[08:51] {Threei} See analogy with 11 hikes, 13 cuts?
[08:52] {BillyD} yes
[08:52] {BillyD} back to same spot with big mess
[08:52] {Threei} yup
[08:52] {Threei} burned skin on one spots, frozen in otyhers
[08:53] {BillyD} man's need to always feel in control....reason to constantly monitor and change every month
[08:53] {BillyD} lol
[08:53] {Threei} read one bubble bursts, another is created
[08:53] {BillyD} what is next mania then?
[08:53] {cosmo} solar
[08:53] {Threei} I am buying all daffoldils I can get my hands on
[08:53] {BillyD} Global Warming
[08:54] {BillyD} just as Al Gore invented internet...GW next
[08:54] {Threei} tulips is too well known, daffodills is next best thing with different name
[08:55] {Threei} when each bulb of my King Alfred is sold for %199.99 you all will stop laughing
[08:57] {cosmo} once it costs only 30c per watt to make solar cells, we rock. Oil stays under ground, where it belongs
[08:58] {cosmo} ... and the economic displacement could be freightening... but, no matter...
[08:58] {BillyD} agree cosmo
[08:59] {BillyD} Realoity Trader saves the world with new policy abroad
[08:59] {cosmo} its an elephant in the room policy
[09:00] {dptl} good morning all
[09:00] {BillyD} dp :)
[09:01] {dino} gm all
[09:01] {Threei} dp, dino :)
[09:02] {Threei} btw, if I am not mistaken, among republican candidates there is one whose views are fairly close to what I blabbed above
[09:02] {Threei} ron paul
[09:03] {Threei} I say it so Raven doesn't slap me for being too deep and way out of my league :)
[09:04] {cosmo} and if he gets popular, he could be in mortal danger...
[09:05] {Raven} sigh
[09:05] {dino} fxp rocking, china must be dropping
[09:05] {dptl} short day today? closed tomorrow and short day friday?
[09:05] {Threei} full day today I believe
[09:05] {Threei} the rest is right
[09:05] {dino} full day, fri. 1:00 close
[09:06] {dino} jrjc down
[09:07] {dino} tsl blood
[09:07] {dptl} hmm on briefing.com it says:
[09:07] {dptl} Nov 21
[09:07] {dptl} Early close for financial futures & option pits at 1 EST
[09:07] {dptl} Nov 21
[09:07] {dptl} JEITA International Broadcast Equipment Exhibition 2007 (Day 3 of 3)
[09:07] {dptl} Nov 22
[09:07] {dptl} Thanksgiving Day: All markets closed
[09:07] {dptl} Nov 22
[09:07] {dptl} ASM International N.V. at Kempen & Co. Benelux Conference
[09:07] {dptl} Nov 22
[09:07] {dptl} Votorantim Celulose e Papel S.A. Analyst Meeting
[09:07] {dptl} Nov 23
[09:07] {dptl} Early close for financial futures & option pits at
[09:08] {Threei} futures & option
[09:08] {Threei} not equitiesa
[09:08] {cosmo} ETFC
[09:09] {cosmo} nearing 4
[09:10] {Threei} Raven just sighed at me... I guess I got away with it
[09:10] {cosmo} nah... that was me
[09:10] {cosmo} i think
[09:10] {esemde} morning RT's
[09:10] {Threei} ese :)
[09:12] {esemde} markets are open...for some reason i thought they would be closed
[09:12] {Raven} double sigh
[09:12] {Threei} closed tomorrow ese
[09:14] {esemde} tks
[09:14] {cosmo} ETFC
[09:14] {cosmo} tests 4
[09:16] {cosmo} wants more...
[09:28] {magoo} MORNING
[09:29] {BillyD} hey...you back
[09:29] {Threei} magoo!
[09:29] {magoo} :)
[09:29] {Threei} hunt is over?
[09:30] {magoo} well, buck/deer/bear concurrent season starts monday
[09:30] {magoo} bear onlone ends today
[09:30] {Threei} fun was had?
[09:30] {magoo} yup..and more coming
[09:30] {Threei} :)
[09:30] {magoo} i stay at hunt camp
[09:31] {magoo} good times:)
[09:31] {magoo} market closes friday 1 p.m for your info
[09:32] {Threei} RIMM sharp spike
[09:33] {dino} too soon imo
[09:34] {dino} really destroyed the dry shippers lately
[09:35] {Roman} CSIQ
[09:35] {Roman} long
[09:35] {BillyD} VVTV
[09:35] {Roman} 1/3 , 14.45 area
[09:43] {Roman} long CRDN
[09:43] {Roman} 1/3 size 42.35
[09:44] {dino} hl l tbsi .44, stop .99
[09:45] {Roman} out CRDN +1.02
[09:45] {BillyD} nice one
[09:46] {Roman} LUNA thin
[09:46] {Roman} QMAR
[09:46] {Roman} bounce play
[09:46] {Roman} with DRYS & EGLE
[09:48] {Roman} out CSIQ -.08
[09:49] {Threei} ZGEN?
[09:52] {BillyD} VVTV trying to set up
[09:53] {esemde} Roman...you and I have been in the same boat with CSIQ...
[09:53] {dino} ocnf l hl .50, stop .09
[09:53] {Roman} yep
[09:54] {Roman} it depends on what NQ does
[09:55] {Roman} long WM
[09:55] {Roman} 17.50 1/2 size
[09:56] {Roman} bouncing a bit with other financials
[09:56] {Roman} it follows C
[09:56] {dino} rimm hl l .97
[09:56] {Roman} CPSL on rdar
[09:57] {esemde} That one is due for a bounce as well
[09:57] {dino} out tbsi .30, +.86
[09:57] {Threei} had news before open
[09:58] {Threei} [08:03] {Threei} CPSL REPORTS Q1 $0.08; R$25.3M V $10.5M Y/Y- China Precision Steel's new cold-rolled mill with 150,000 metric tons of design capacity is operating at 40% utilization. It is expected to reach 50% utilization by the end of calendar year 2007. The Company has plans to commence the construction of a third mill with 150,000 metric tons of capacity in the first quarter of 2008.
[09:58] {Roman} watching EGLE & QMAR to bounce with DRYS
[09:58] {dino} thats what tbsi did rfr
[09:59] {dino} ocnf works w/drys too
[10:00] {Threei} *NOV FINAL UNIV. OF MICHIGAN CONFIDENCE: 76.1 V 75.0E
[10:00] {Threei} *OCT LEADING INDICATORS: -0.5% V -0.3%E
[10:00] {Roman} BUY BUY BUY
[10:01] {Roman} everything see bBUY BUY
[10:01] {Roman} SELL
[10:02] {Roman} out WM
[10:02] {Roman} had 20 cents but did take
[10:03] {Roman} did not take
[10:03] {dino} rimm stopped -.46
[10:04] {Threei} maniac-depressive market still
[10:04] {dino} yeah, ya think
[10:04] {Threei} rarely
[10:05] {Roman} my personal outlook market under pressure until after 2008
[10:05] {Roman} we bounce at end of January
[10:05] {Roman} before that it's ugly
[10:05] {esemde} Ok i'm confused now....whats Roman recommending......Buy Buy...no sell...wait buy ...no Sell Sell yes yes Buy....
[10:05] {Roman} IMO
[10:05] {Roman} ese, i covered both side, in case market goes up BUY if goes down SELL, i am right either way
[10:06] {esemde} just pulling your leg a little.......
[10:06] {Threei} he suggests that it takes a crazy to understand one, ese :)
[10:06] {Raven} sigh ... another "analyst" :)
[10:06] {BillyD} anyone reading ETFC
[10:06] {dino} buy when down, sell when up....and be out by end of day
[10:07] {dino} imo of course
[10:07] {Threei} BRCM
[10:07] {Threei} want to short it
[10:07] {Threei} maybe bounce
[10:07] {Threei} hate to chase here
[10:08] {Threei} and market is so jerky, I would like to wait a bit
[10:08] {esemde} i'm watching ETFC Billy...
[10:08] {esemde} am considering bstop at.87
[10:08] {dino} bidu like the siren song
[10:09] {Threei} PREVIEW: DOE PETROLEUM INVENTORIES DUE AT 10:30AMET
[10:09] {Threei} - Crude: +750Ke
[10:09] {Threei} - Gasoline: +1Me
[10:09] {Threei} - Distillate: -400Ke
[10:09] {Threei} - Utilization: 88.2%e
[10:10] {esemde} sorry Billy thats bstop at .20 am considering
[10:10] {BillyD} ok
[10:11] {dino} gs beat down
[10:11] {esemde} am watching level 2...but don't know what to think ...
[10:12] {esemde} to late missed it as i was typing
[10:14] {esemde} back to watching CSIQ
[10:15] {dino} lol ese
[10:15] {dino} but, i understand what you mean
[10:16] {Threei} BRCM won't bounce with NQ
[10:16] {esemde} inflicting new level of torture on myself to learn patience....
[10:19] {BillyD} thinking ss BRCM Vad if break down
[10:19] {Threei} yeah
[10:19] {dino} sometimes less is more ese
[10:20] {Threei} I'd prefer a bounce entry but there wasn't much of a bounce
[10:20] {esemde} If CSIQ makes it above 14.50 with any level of conviction it should go along way.....but then it's question of finding a proper entry point
[10:20] {BillyD} in .14
[10:20] {dino} wow tsl
[10:21] {esemde} yikes....
[10:21] {esemde} not good for solars
[10:23] {dino} sigm
[10:23] {Threei} good boy BRCM
[10:23] {esemde} weird....it has a buy rating and a $76.00 target from wall street Bank of America Securities
[10:24] {BillyD} cov'd 2/3 here
[10:25] {dino} l hl sigm .38
[10:25] {dino} risky
[10:26] {BillyD} cov'd rest
[10:26] {Threei} wtg
[10:26] {BillyD} ty
[10:27] {Threei} welcome
[10:27] {dino} gj
[10:28] {dino} sigm stop is .97 fwiw
[10:32] {dino} out ocnf .65, +.15
[10:32] {dino} sigm stopped slippage-.48
[10:35] {dino} fast drop
[10:38] {BillyD} Vad...still in BRCM
[10:38] {Threei} half
[10:39] {BillyD} .80 is key from last daily low on 10/23
[10:41] {BillyD} CPSL..didn't trust it enough to try
[10:43] {dino} tbsi hl l .30
[10:53] {Threei} stop to .86 BRCM
[10:53] {Threei} tightening it
[10:54] {Threei} covered BRCM in full
[10:54] {BillyD} nice one
[10:54] {BillyD} watching AMZN for poss short
[10:54] {dino} tbsi stopped -.30
[11:02] {Threei} too soon BRCM eh?
[11:02] {BillyD} it was the .80 area
[11:03] {BillyD} I missed reshorting
[11:05] {BillyD} that was a good spot on your part vad
[11:06] {BillyD} it being a salmon against the NQ upticks
[11:06] {BillyD} initially
[11:06] {Threei} ty
[11:06] {Threei} I have my moments
[11:06] {BillyD} have another one :)
[11:07] {dino} l drys .00, hl risky
[11:13] {_lumdus} So is this the only window i should be watching
[11:13] {esemde} am back...power in the house went out again.....2nd time in 2weeks...I think we have a problem...
[11:13] {Threei} yes lumdus
[11:13] {BillyD} pay your bill ese :)
[11:13] {Threei} or feed hamstews?
[11:13] {Threei} hamsters too
[11:13] {BillyD} lol
[11:14] {dino} welcome to the jungle lumdus
[11:14] {Threei} not the best day to start, pre-holiday trading
[11:14] {Threei} but BRCM was good
[11:15] {dino} c'mon, its been fun
[11:15] {Threei} I will be last one to object :)
[11:17] {Threei} my monitors started acting up, need urgent update of videocard drivers... with my multimonitor setup there is a whole lot of things that could go wrong with that. So if I am not here till 2008, you know what happened
[11:18] {dino} lulu
[11:18] {Threei} stay decent dino...
[11:18] {Threei} need to restart... wait for me please... and pray for me...
[11:19] {Threei} just in case... remember me please...
[11:24] {dino} out drys .24, +.24
[11:25] {dino} too soon, scared me ot
[11:26] {Threei} wow... I am back
[11:26] {Threei} believe it or not...
[11:26] {BillyD} where is Vad?
[11:26] {dino} tbsi l .91
[11:26] {Threei} and who is he
[11:29] {dino} wynn l .90
[11:33] {Threei} CPSL is still moving
[11:33] {Threei} miss of the day for me
[11:33] {Threei} didn't believe in it at all
[11:34] {BillyD} same here
[11:34] {Threei} can I use pre-holiday coma as an excuse?
[11:34] {BillyD} past experience
[11:34] {Threei} {magoo} you could if you weren;'t in coma permanently
[11:35] {BillyD} good enough for me
[11:39] {dino} 3i answering himself i see
[11:39] {Threei} it comes with certain age dino
[11:40] {Threei} since noone wants to talk to you anymore, you start finding consolation in impersonating your counterparts and having quite meaningful conversation
[11:42] {dino} unfortunately, i relate
[11:42] {BillyD} you both are a cure for one another
[11:42] {Threei} lol
[11:42] {dino} i'm not sure about that
[11:43] {BillyD} rflol
[11:43] {BillyD} I tried for you Vad
[11:43] {Threei} in vain I see
[11:43] {dino} out tbsi .74, +.84
[11:43] {dino} .83 i mean
[11:43] {BillyD} nice one dino
[11:43] {dino} ty
[11:44] {esemde} patience or what....eh....CSIQ making another run at 14.50
[11:45] {Threei} IMO, leave it be for now
[11:45] {Threei} its day will come
[11:45] {Threei} but at this point it's just useless piece of junk shaking you our every time you try it
[11:45] {esemde} definately......just throwing that in to lighten the mood....
[11:46] {Threei} RIMM small shares long
[11:47] {Threei} stop under .80
[11:48] {dino} you want to lighten it, toss me a tequilla
[11:48] {Threei} not holding, RIMM
[11:53] {dino} out wynn .23, +.33
[11:54] {dino} brb
[11:54] {magoo} ok, i have to go, just found out 5 yr old daughter has pnuemonia
[11:54] {magoo} good luck to u all
[11:54] {Threei} ouch
[11:54] {Threei} sorry mags
[11:55] {magoo} yeah...contagious too..can't get together w/families tomorrow(not complaining...feel bad for her of course)
[11:59] {dino} selling everthing too soon today
[12:00] {dino} iphs
[12:02] {dino} rally?
[12:03] {dino} iphs missed it
[12:03] {Threei} not sure it can be called rally... it's aimless jerking up and down
[12:03] {dino} ocnf l .43, stop .09
[12:04] {dino} rimm l trig .00 imo
[12:05] {dino} hmmm 3i picking on my insight, :)
[12:05] {Threei} that's how boredom reveals itself in me
[12:06] {Threei} I start picking on people
[12:06] {dino} decent day imo, you too?
[12:06] {Threei} yes, but not active
[12:06] {Threei} very few trades
[12:06] {dino} 8
[12:06] {dino} missed 3
[12:07] {dino} we dropped the ball on tsl
[12:07] {BillyD} if CPSl takes .30 offer may be worth a shot
[12:08] {BillyD} CPSL
[12:10] {BillyD} Vad is RIMM in sync w/ NQ today.....or is it hit or miss
[12:10] {Threei} can't get its rythm today
[12:11] {BillyD} just started watching and it seems to do it's own thing
[12:11] {dino} agree, not w/it today
[12:20] {dino} there goes my rally
[12:21] {dino} ocnf stop to .39
[12:21] {dino} back in 10
[12:22] {BillyD} mini rally
[12:24] {Threei} have a look at my CAST
[12:24] {Threei} attacking again
[12:25] {BillyD} I took it off earlier due to low vol
[12:25] {BillyD} intersting eh
[12:25] {Threei} accumulation
[12:25] {BillyD} yup
[12:26] {BillyD} buy the pb
[12:26] {BillyD} again...all relevant to time frame
[12:38] {dino} back rimm got mojho huh
[12:42] {BillyD} another mini rally
[12:43] {dino} ok, wife stopped in, back after lunch
[12:44] {dino} keep hard stop on ocnf, let it trade. back in 30
[12:54] {BillyD} just got .27 scalp on RIMM ...small shares
[12:54] {Threei} :)
[12:57] {BillyD} wanted more...but what you have vanishes in a blink
[12:58] {BillyD} sheesh
[13:00] {Threei} in attempts to confuse participants market became so confused itself
[13:01] {BillyD} on RIMM...it seems you try and pick best entry....assume .40-.50 stop and just see what happens
[13:14] {BillyD} doing anything Vad
[13:14] {Threei} oh yes
[13:14] {Threei} staring at the wall
[13:14] {Threei} finding a lot of interesting paint patterns
[13:14] {BillyD} sorry to interrupt
[13:15] {Threei} that's OK, you can't do worse than my cat
[13:26] {Threei} total psycho
[13:26] {BillyD} your cat
[13:26] {Threei} no... market
[13:27] {Threei} cat is nice.. just way too 'its own"
[13:50] {dino} ocnf stop to .84
[13:51] {dino} out .85, +.42
[13:51] {Threei} watch CAST doing it again
[13:55] {BillyD} yes
[13:56] {Threei} can you beliewve size of buys?
[13:57] {BillyD} huge
[13:58] {BillyD} stop it
[13:58] {BillyD} save some for little guys
[13:58] {Threei} little guy is me trying to sell it at 8 :)
[13:59] {BillyD} lol
[14:01] {dino} mwiv
[14:02] {dino} wow drys flat
[14:03] {dino} tbsi hl l .59, stop .19
[14:09] {BillyD} Jade creeping up
[14:09] {BillyD} any news Vad
[14:09] {BillyD} I see none
[14:10] {Threei} nope
[14:11] {dino} out tbsi .89, +.30
[14:12] {dino} ohh mannnn
[14:12] {dino} cnqr l .75
[14:23] {BillyD} seems like each stock in a world of its own
[14:24] {Threei} today is very disconneted yes
[14:27] {BillyD} wanted to short Jade but I couldn't find a decent readable entry
[14:38] {dino} rock 'n roll
[14:39] {dino} eicu
[14:41] {Chaeron} market closes at 1PM EST Friday btw :)
[14:46] {dino} darn, missed it, wanted .96
[15:00] {dino} jrjc hl l .31
[15:04] {dino} out cnqr .94, +.19
[15:06] {Threei} last 30 min or so AAPL follows NQ better than RIMM does
[15:07] {BillyD} watching NDAQ
[15:08] {BillyD} doesn't seem to move too much, but nice chart
[15:10] {dino} jrjc stopped .20, -.11
[15:16] {BillyD} Vad...that kid w/ the crayon been everywhere today
[15:16] {Threei} yeah, someone forgot to restrain him
[15:18] {dino} most likely done, good day again, thx for ideas
[15:18] {dino} everybody have a great thursday/thanksgiving off
[15:19] {Threei} tried AAPL couple times, looks treadable
[15:19] {BillyD} u 2 dino
[15:19] {Threei} take care dino, have a great one
[15:19] {dino} u2
[15:19] {dino} nuhc
[15:19] {Chaeron} bye dino... best to you and yours... and magoo too if you see him
[15:20] {dino} ty
[15:20] {dino} u2
[15:21] {dino} man, missed nuhc too
[15:21] {dino} was at .80
[15:22] {dino} ok, thats it, take care
[15:23] {cosmo} ETFC hod = 4.27
[15:23] {cosmo} fwiw
[15:24] {Threei} ZIXI worth keeping eye on after the holiday
[15:25] {BillyD} yes...have it up
[15:26] {BillyD} BRCM seems stalled here
[15:27] {BillyD} ss below .40 or long off .52
[15:27] {BillyD} flip a coin
[15:32] {cosmo} ETFC
[15:45] {Chaeron} See you nice ppl Friday...... May your Thanksgivings be warm and wonderful...
[15:45] {Threei} take care chaeron
[15:45] {BillyD} bye C
[15:46] {Chaeron} bye guys :)
[15:48] {hawkfan4} have a good holiday all
[15:48] {Threei} you too hawk
[15:48] {Threei} thank you all, have a great holiday
[15:48] {hawkfan4} thx vad :)
[15:48] {Threei} see you on Friday
[15:48] {Threei} not sure why
[15:48] {BillyD} bye all.....
[15:48] {Threei} can just as well take a break till Mon :)
[15:48] {BillyD} go for it
[15:52] {dptl} really bad for me today
[15:53] {BillyD} sorry to hear dp
[15:53] {dptl} it's all right....

November 20, 2007

Session Start: Tue Nov 20 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Tue Nov 20 00:00:00 2007

[05:09] {Threei} ASIA
[05:09] {Threei} LAUNCHES MOBILE E-COMMERCE SOLUTION AND WINS CONTRACT WITH CHINA MOBILE- Announced that it has launched a new mobile e-commerce solution, and won a contract with China Mobile for a bonus point management platform. AsiaInfo is the first in China to offer such a solution.
[05:15] {BillyD} morning Vad
[05:15] {Threei} Billy :)
[05:16] {Threei} I assume we are getting old? waking up way too early...
[05:16] {Threei} falling asleep in front of TV in the evening...
[05:16] {BillyD} lol
[05:17] {Threei} disapproving today's youth...
[05:17] {BillyD} actually hit the snooze 4 times this morning
[05:17] {BillyD} sleeping in
[05:17] {Threei} picking softer cheeses...
[05:18] {Threei} on other hand... added more weights to my barbell yesterday... hmmm... state of confusion
[05:19] {Threei} where is cosmo, he usually helps me out of this state
[05:19] {Threei} mostly by demonstrating that my confusion is nothing
[05:19] {BillyD} he's probably assessing your situation
[05:22] {Threei} noticed last blog post?
[05:22] {Threei} http://www.realitytrader.com/blog/2007/11/old-ways-new-results.html
[05:22] {Threei} I was actually amazed when realized how common it is
[05:23] {BillyD} let me read
[05:28] {BillyD} what is the underlying reason people won't change....admitting it's not working?
[05:29] {Threei} comfort zone
[05:29] {Threei} staying with what is familiar, no matter whether it's working
[05:29] {BillyD} read some TTR yesterday
[05:29] {Threei} desire to make it work by minor tweaks
[05:30] {Threei} not by major rewamping
[05:30] {BillyD} focus on stock movement to keep map in alignment w/ territory is key
[05:30] {Threei} unwillingness to admit chosen direction is fundamentally wrong
[05:30] {Threei} ah TTR... I really need to read that
[05:31] {Threei} people keep saying I should
[05:31] {Threei} *OCT HOUSING STARTS: 1.229M V 1.17ME; BUILDING PERMITS: 1.178M V 1.2ME
[05:31] {BillyD} lol
[05:31] {Threei} FCEL SELLS THREE DFC300 POWER PLANTS TO EASTERN MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT IN CALIFORNIA
[05:38] {dino} gm all
[05:39] {Threei} dino :)
[05:39] {Threei} made it long weekend yesterday? :)
[05:40] {dino} yes. plus had 6 inches of snow
[05:40] {Threei} yikes!
[05:42] {BillyD} gm dino
[05:43] {Threei} EURO BREAKS ABOVE THE THE 1.48 LEVEL FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER
[05:44] {Threei} "thank you OPEC" I'd guess
[05:46] {dino} gm billy
[05:49] {cosmo} BCSI
[05:50] {cosmo} 39
[05:50] {cosmo} .. a pre mkt test...
[05:52] {Threei} we had a beautiful selloff on CIEN yesterday dino... totally your type
[05:53] {Threei} was so overdone even visually
[05:55] {dino} i'll take a look
[06:08] {Threei} CHINESE PM WEN: SEES 2007 GDP GROWTH AROUND 11.5%
[06:09] {cosmo} RSTO pre mkt high = 7.40 fwiw
[06:14] {Threei} 11/19/07 05:34pm [RSTO] Sears said it proposed an acquisition of RSTO and seeks non-public information; Sears also reported a 13.67% stake in the company
[06:17] {esemde} morning all
[06:17] {Threei} ese :)
[06:17] {esemde} anything looking good
[06:17] {BillyD} ese, cosmo :)
[06:18] {esemde} I mean....you look good in the morning Vad but I mean you know....stock wise....
[06:18] {cosmo} BCSI pre mkt high = 39.40
[06:18] {cosmo} BD:)
[06:19] {Threei} ummm... you may have a problem with your sight, ese... {G}
[06:22] {dino} fre tagged
[06:22] {cosmo} rsto
[06:22] {dptl} good morning all :)
[06:22] {Threei} 07:31am [FRE] Reports Q3 -$3.29 v 0.51e (includes items), R-$678M v 1.56Be (unclear if comparable), says to consider cutting Q4 dividend by 50%more.. - Engaged Goldman Sachs and Lehman as financial advisor to help it consider very near term capital raising alternatives - "Without doubt, 2007 has been an extremely difficult year for the country's housing and credit markets and, as our third quarter financial results reflect, we have been imp
[06:23] {Threei} dp :)
[06:23] {dino} fnm w/it too
[06:25] {BillyD} never realized how much money was highly leveraged into housing
[06:25] {Threei} read: never realized how deeply the concept of tulips was misunderstood? :)
[06:26] {BillyD} ok.....
[06:26] {BillyD} lol
[06:27] {BillyD} usual suspects so far tis morning Vad
[06:27] {BillyD} CSIQ, RIMM
[06:27] {Threei} nothing changed over last 3-5 centuries eh?
[06:27] {BillyD} nope....human behavior the same
[06:28] {cosmo} we recently re-entered a bronze age i thot
[06:28] {cosmo} ...checking
[06:28] {Threei} and quickly moving toward stone one
[06:28] {Threei} backward?
[06:29] {cosmo} yea
[06:29] {cosmo} no no
[06:29] {cosmo} bronze is good
[06:30] {Threei} FRE panic
[06:33] {Threei} BCSI small shares long around 39
[06:33] {Threei} desirably if loses it and sells quickly
[06:34] {Threei} finger on a trigger
[06:35] {Threei} in
[06:35] {Threei} stop .40
[06:35] {Threei} stopped
[06:36] {Threei} shaekout
[06:36] {dino} cien l hl .21, stop .84
[06:39] {Threei} nice CIEN
[06:39] {dino} out .84, +.63
[06:40] {dino} ty
[06:40] {BillyD} wtg
[06:40] {dino} and ty for the idea
[06:40] {Threei} :)
[06:41] {dino} fast drop
[06:41] {Threei} BCSI 39.11 long trigger, small shares
[06:42] {Threei} stop under 38.80
[06:45] {Threei} half out .48
[06:45] {Threei} scalpers take profit
[06:45] {BillyD} out full +.34
[06:45] {BillyD} thx
[06:45] {Threei} welcome
[06:46] {dino} bidz
[06:46] {Threei} stop just under 39 for the balance
[06:47] {Threei} missed AMZN... watching for pullback buy
[06:47] {Threei} as close to 80 as possible
[06:48] {Threei} in
[06:48] {dino} ocnf l .10, thin
[06:48] {Threei} .96
[06:48] {Threei} stop .75
[06:48] {Threei} .74 to be exact
[06:48] {dino} stop .89
[06:49] {Threei} 'half out AMZN
[06:49] {Threei} .48... +.56 I think
[06:49] {Threei} stop 79.89
[06:50] {BillyD} out AMZN avg around .35
[06:50] {BillyD} my PC froze up a bit when it spiked to .50
[06:54] {Threei} out BCSI balance
[06:54] {dino} onxx hl l .61
[06:54] {Threei} AMZN stop to .49
[06:55] {dino} gj
[06:55] {Threei} ty
[06:57] {Roman} CROX long on 39.55 break
[06:59] {Threei} RIMM non-stop... wow
[07:01] {Threei} LUNA again...
[07:01] {Threei} what a tough read
[07:02] {dino} rimm nice
[07:02] {Threei} out AMZN balance
[07:02] {Roman} long CROX 1/3
[07:02] {dino} ocnf out .44, +.34
[07:04] {dino} silc
[07:07] {Threei} AKAM .90 break half lot long
[07:07] {Threei} if holding above .75
[07:10] {BillyD} in akam
[07:10] {Threei} LUNA to the moon
[07:11] {Threei} (pun intended and admittedly lame)
[07:11] {BillyD} rofl
[07:12] {Threei} AKAM stop to .79
[07:13] {Threei} not sure about NQ here, want to tighten things a bit
[07:15] {Threei} out AKAM
[07:15] {BillyD} same here
[07:16] {dino} silc s hl .00
[07:16] {dino} stop .35
[07:17] {dino} make it .10
[07:17] {Threei} URRE
[07:17] {Threei} your baby Roman
[07:25] {Threei} time for NQ resumption
[07:26] {Threei} RIMM should be log very soon
[07:26] {Threei} long
[07:26] {Threei} very soon meant like next second, lol
[07:28] {Threei} nailed NQ reversal to the minute
[07:28] {Roman} stopped CROX
[07:28] {dino} silc stopped -.10
[07:28] {Threei} ANAD .21 long
[07:29] {Threei} sheesh... that was fast
[07:29] {Threei} anyone managed to get it?
[07:30] {Threei} won't track it if not
[07:30] {BillyD} not here
[07:30] {Threei} there was solid ask at .20, it just cut through like it was nothing
[07:30] {BillyD} it was .26 and higher when I saw it
[07:31] {Threei} was .19 while I typed, lol
[07:31] {Threei} and it's not particularly too jumpy stock
[07:41] {Threei} CAST?
[07:42] {cosmo} BIDZ
[07:42] {cosmo} gonna test 20
[07:44] {esemde} following CSIQ looking for spots to enter....looks to have stopped it's slid and 15.95/.96 looks enterable on a break...
[07:45] {Threei} I don't know... this stock doesn't behave on breaks
[07:45] {BillyD} it seems to have lost momo
[07:45] {BillyD} for now
[07:48] {esemde} l CSIQ .94.....
[07:49] {esemde} stop .70
[07:51] {esemde} oh oh....
[07:51] {esemde} need the nq and s&p to help me here
[07:51] {esemde} out. .72
[07:52] {Threei} phew... good exit
[07:52] {BillyD} good stop
[07:52] {Threei} rug got pulled hard
[07:52] {esemde} oh well......decided to hit the trigger rather than wait
[07:54] {esemde} I still think this has upside potential
[07:54] {esemde} not right now obviously
[07:56] {Threei} I am sure it does
[07:56] {Threei} this is not looking like ne day wonder
[07:56] {Threei} one
[07:57] {Threei} it's just this stock's personality, gotta trade it on deep pullbacks for now
[07:57] {Threei} when momo returns to it it will be more forgiving
[07:57] {Threei} but even when it was hot it didn't reward breakout buys
[08:00] {dino} jobs
[08:00] {dino} thin
[08:00] {Threei} NIGERIA'S FORCADOS JANUARY OIL EXPORTS WILL EXCEED DEC PLAN - WIRE HEADLINE CITING A TRADER
[08:01] {Threei} SFSF IPO OPENS FOR TRADING AT $13.00
[08:01] {Threei} I am lost
[08:02] {Threei} this is second time in as many days when fresh IPO has previous daily chart
[08:02] {dino} lol
[08:02] {Threei} what do I miss
[08:03] {Threei} next thing we know, delisted setocks continue trading... and that's how we know we are in some other universe
[08:04] {Threei} IRAN/EU NUCLEAR TALKS POSTPONED AFTER IRAN CANCELS; IRAN SAYS ITS ENVOY IS ILL - WIRE HEADLINE CITING OFFICIALS
[08:06] {dino} fmcn
[08:06] {dino} eric drop
[08:07] {Threei} AMZN small shares .70 long if NQ resumes upward
[08:07] {BillyD} looking at AKAM again
[08:07] {BillyD} not sure it participates as willingly as AMZN
[08:09] {Threei} AMZN invalidated for now
[08:10] {Threei} wow ERIC
[08:10] {Threei} SAYS Q4 SALES LIKELY TO BE IN LOWER END OF RANGE OF SK53-B-60B - WIRE CITES NY PRESENTATION
[08:10] {Threei} - Says Europe, US markets 'tighten'
[08:10] {dino} onxx stop to .85
[08:11] {dino} out onxx +.24
[08:12] {Threei} dino is bidding ERIC at 24.30 as we speak :)
[08:13] {dino} 25.21
[08:13] {Threei} 9 cents error :)
[08:13] {dino} 1.09
[08:13] {Threei} oh... sorry, mistype
[08:13] {Threei} meant 25
[08:13] {dino} not going to get it
[08:14] {Threei} I think you will
[08:14] {Threei} or not
[08:16] {dino} thoughts fmcn?
[08:17] {Threei} none... hate this stock, never can get a reliable read on it
[08:17] {dino} hmmm
[08:17] {Threei} short RIMM
[08:17] {dino} missed by 1 cent but beat on revs
[08:17] {Threei} stop above .20
[08:18] {dino} strang punisjhment
[08:18] {Threei} covered half
[08:18] {Threei} stop to above 114
[08:18] {esemde} have to be off...you all have a great rest of the day..
[08:18] {dino} my spelling sucks again i see
[08:19] {Threei} take care ese
[08:19] {dino} cya ese
[08:19] {Threei} you are lucky dino... it means it improves now and then
[08:19] {Threei} while mine stays just as bad all the time
[08:19] {dino} hl l .59 fmcn
[08:19] {Threei} but I pride myself in consistency
[08:20] {dino} lol
[08:20] {dino} eric hit .35
[08:21] {Threei} good boy RIMM
[08:21] {Threei} down boy down
[08:22] {dino} got it .42
[08:22] {Threei} ERIC?
[08:23] {Chaeron} he's not here... good morning all
[08:23] {Chaeron} :)
[08:23] {dino} y
[08:23] {Threei} hey Chaeron :)
[08:24] {Threei} RIMM, my dear
[08:24] {Threei} stop to .40
[08:24] {Threei} ready to cover
[08:24] {Threei} .25 stop
[08:24] {Threei} out
[08:24] {Threei} +.96
[08:24] {dino} fmcn stopped -.40
[08:26] {dino} nice
[08:29] {BillyD} AMZN hanging around
[08:32] {dino} out eric .86, +.44
[08:32] {BillyD} nice
[08:33] {Threei} it's valid again ifdd not losing .50 anymore
[08:33] {dino} thx
[08:33] {Threei} and if NQ helps of course
[08:33] {BillyD} yes
[08:46] {dino} eric lod
[08:48] {Threei} AMZN starts looking to me as more than scalp
[08:48] {Threei} holding too well
[08:48] {BillyD} strong
[08:50] {dino} itri
[08:53] {Threei} half out AMZN
[08:54] {Threei} strop to .59
[08:56] {dino} ravn
[09:02] {Chaeron} Laser Dave - dcc please?
[09:04] {dino} rimm fall
[09:05] {Threei} oh how mightiest fall
[09:05] {dino} bidu too
[09:05] {Threei} sorry... poetic moment
[09:05] {Threei} wanted to short 113 breakdown but fell asleep
[09:06] {Threei} well... not exactly but might as well
[09:06] {dino} yeah, was in middle of bowflex set
[09:06] {BillyD} lol
[09:06] {dino} mkt falling fast
[09:15] {Threei} one more leg down and then bounce time
[09:16] {Threei} waiting patiently for RIMM and AMZN
[09:21] {Threei} ESLR TICKS OFF LOWS ON RENEWED TAKEOVER CHATTER
[09:21] {Threei} almost ready
[09:22] {Threei} in AMZN
[09:22] {Threei} stop under .60
[09:22] {Threei} missed RIMM, maybe pullback closer to 111
[09:23] {Threei} yeah right RIMM says
[09:24] {Threei} half out AMZN +.22
[09:24] {BillyD} lol...same here
[09:24] {Threei} :)
[09:26] {dino} fmcn l hl ,54
[09:26] {BillyD} out rest +.39
[09:27] {Threei} wtg'
[09:27] {BillyD} ty
[09:27] {Threei} perfectly timed entry eh?
[09:27] {dino} gj bd
[09:27] {BillyD} yes....break of .82
[09:27] {BillyD} ty dino
[09:28] {Threei} out second half .30
[09:28] {Threei} +.48
[09:28] {BillyD} didn't really see the NQ break at first though
[09:28] {Threei} it wasn't break
[09:28] {Threei} it was bottoming out
[09:29] {Threei} RIMM comes home
[09:29] {Threei} finger on a trigger
[09:29] {BillyD} u were just reading and not waiting for break right
[09:29] {dino} swtopped -.34, done w/it
[09:34] {Threei} in RIMM , just a scalp this time
[09:34] {Threei} out +.35
[09:34] {BillyD} nice
[09:35] {BillyD} didn't enter
[09:35] {Threei} too soon
[09:35] {Threei} but wasn't reallt confident here
[09:42] {Threei} wow
[09:42] {Threei} that's some hectic action
[09:42] {Threei} glad to be on a sideline
[09:43] {dino} wow rimm
[09:43] {BillyD} I took off L2
[09:43] {BillyD} too wild RIMM
[09:45] {dino} lol
[09:45] {Threei} feels like short for one more leg down
[09:46] {Threei} short .94
[09:46] {Threei} 110.11 stop
[09:46] {Threei} 109.11, sorry
[09:46] {Threei} no, 110
[09:46] {Threei} lol
[09:47] {BillyD} lol
[09:47] {Threei} out anyway
[09:47] {BillyD} how can you even think with that one
[09:47] {Threei} apparently can't
[09:47] {Threei} still feeling of a short
[09:47] {Threei} gotta find better entry
[09:48] {Threei} in
[09:49] {Threei} stop .81
[09:49] {Threei} out .30
[09:49] {Threei} +.36
[09:49] {Threei} real challenge for my math abilities...
[09:50] {Threei} I click faster than I compute
[09:50] {BillyD} you have a good read on it
[10:03] {Threei} ready for one more
[10:05] {Threei} couldn't post in time... .36 -.70
[10:05] {Threei} offering second half 110
[10:06] {Threei} or stopping 109.20
[10:06] {Threei} stop it is
[10:07] {BillyD} I thought u were looking for short entry w new low in mkt
[10:07] {Threei} I obviously should, lol
[10:08] {dino} pretty brutal selloff from hod
[10:08] {BillyD} yes
[10:19] {dino} hl l rimm .50
[10:21] {Threei} in .29
[10:22] {Threei} half out .65
[10:22] {dino} you dog
[10:23] {Threei} rufff
[10:23] {Threei} 110.30 for second half
[10:23] {Threei} call me greedy
[10:24] {BillyD} greedy
[10:24] {Threei} but proftable
[10:25] {BillyD} you said call you that
[10:25] {BillyD} trying to help
[10:25] {Threei} ty
[10:25] {dino} :)
[10:25] {Threei} good to know I have friends to count on
[10:25] {BillyD} we are here for you
[10:26] {Threei} stop to .45
[10:26] {Threei} ok ok, I get it
[10:26] {Threei} out
[10:28] {dino} stopped -.40
[10:28] {dino} bidu sm l 309.25
[10:31] {dino} out 310.35, +1.10
[10:33] {BillyD} nice one
[10:33] {dino} lucky, but ty
[10:33] {dino} rimm rinsed me
[10:36] {Threei} me too on second half
[10:46] {Threei} feels like we saw the low for the day
[10:46] {hawkfan4} Fed minutes released in 14 minutes fwiw
[10:46] {Threei} ty
[10:46] {Threei} I expect hawkish comments from them
[10:46] {Threei} whether market believes them is another matter of course :)
[10:56] {Threei} PREVIEW: MINUTES OF THE OCT 31 FOMC MEETING DUE OUT AT 2PMET
[10:56] {Threei} - Financial markets strains have eased somewhat; inflation and growth risks are now balanced
[10:56] {Threei} - Housing likely to slow pace of economic expansion, sees intensification of housing downturn
[10:56] {Threei} - Will act as need to foster price stability and growth
[10:56] {Threei} - Says recent increases in energy, commodity prices could
[10:56] {Threei} PREVIEW: FOMC QUARTERLY ECONOMIC FORECAST - The Fed will commence steps to increase the transparency of their economic outlook when they release the first of their quarterly forecasts with the Oct 31st minutes. The new forecast will cover an extended horizon of 3-years, inflation forecasts for both core and headline PCE, real GDP, and unemployment rates. Particular focus will likely be paid to the initial forecast for headline PCE, as it im
[10:57] {Threei} stabilizing the overall inflation rate not just the core. The 2007 headline PCE projection is likely to exceed 3%, which would be the third increase of more than 3% in the past four years. However it is very possible the Fed's central forecast will assume softer food and energy prices in 2008 and 2009 due to current futures prices.
[10:57] {Threei} This could lead to projections of the overall PCE rate below the core rate in both years before returning to neutral in 2010. The 2008 core PCE projection could provide a more discouraging look. There is a risk, however, that FOMC members will fear that exchange rate and energy cost issues will result in some backsliding on the core PCE price index in 2008. If the central tendency is on the high side of 2.0% for 2008, a rate cut would face
[10:58] {Threei} - Market participants will be left to ask. Do the new projections and increased discussions surrounding the data put a dent in the widening gap between market expectations and Fed forecasts. Jan Fed Fund Futures still project better than an 85% chance of another rate cut to 4.25% at the December meeting.
[10:58] {Threei} anyone needed this bunch of nonsense?
[10:59] {BillyD} is that your summary recap
[10:59] {Threei} pretty much
[10:59] {dino} hmmm
[10:59] {Threei} my deep conviction:
[10:59] {BillyD} ty...save me the homework for tonight
[11:00] {Threei} - few organizations caused as much harm to US economy as Fed
[11:00] {dino} yes
[11:00] {Threei} - few people caused as much harm to US economy as Greenspan
[11:00] {Threei} - Fed should be abolished, interest rate should be freely "traded" tool
[11:01] {Threei} there
[11:01] {Threei} economy by iliterature
[11:01] {Threei} *OCT 31 FOMC MINUTES: CALL OCT CUT A CLOSE CALL
[11:03] {Threei} *FOMC ECONOMIC AND INFLATION FORECAST: CUTS 2008 GROWTH FORECAST TO 1.8%-2.5% FROM 2.5%-2.75%
[11:09] {Threei} I am getting seasick
[11:09] {BillyD} interrupts sleep
[11:19] {Threei} pre-minutes low held
[11:20] {Threei} for now at least
[11:21] {Threei} still feels like the low for the day has been set
[11:21] {Threei} with such volatility though forecasts can futile
[11:25] {dino} sm l bidu 311
[11:27] {Roman} today is panic day ?
[11:27] {Roman} i think so
[11:27] {Threei} neww low
[11:27] {Threei} not good
[11:28] {Threei} last person exiting, turn off the lights
[11:31] {Threei} bounce time
[11:32] {Threei} in RIMM
[11:33] {Threei} stopped, too soon
[11:33] {Threei} will retry
[11:34] {Threei} got 108.02
[11:34] {Threei} sheesh, no way to post in time
[11:35] {Threei} half out .60
[11:35] {dino} fast one, i can't post them all on it either
[11:40] {Threei} out second half
[11:40] {Threei} +1.19
[11:42] {dino} gj
[11:48] {Threei} ONSM ALL MOBILE VIDEO PARTNERS WITH ONSTREAM MEDIA TO OFFER WEBCAST SERVICES AND DIGITAL ASSET MANAGEMENT SOLUTIONS
[11:49] {Threei} fluff
[11:49] {BillyD} isn't that your baby
[11:49] {Threei} long ago
[11:50] {BillyD} just like you: date 'em and dump em
[11:52] {dino} back in 15
[11:53] {Threei} back in RIMM
[11:54] {Threei} stop under .40
[11:55] {Threei} nope
[11:55] {BillyD} it blisters thru doesn't it
[11:55] {Threei} pretty much
[11:55] {Threei} hot stock at a hot time
[12:00] {Threei} this NQ retreat is much lower volume
[12:00] {BillyD} do you get vol bars w/ NQ
[12:01] {BillyD} I don't with NDX
[12:01] {Threei} yes
[12:03] {Threei} a lot of cut fingers today I'd guess
[12:04] {BillyD} ?
[12:04] {Threei} falling knives?
[12:04] {BillyD} I c
[12:06] {Threei} {Fed} is it something I said?
[12:16] {BillyD} amazing how dead scanner has been
[12:16] {dino} drys
[12:31] {Threei} anyone getting dizzy?
[12:32] {dino} chaos
[12:32] {BillyD} geez...thinking time to short .50 ago on AMZN...glad I passed
[12:32] {cosmo} rough surf
[12:33] {dino} we really missed rimm at 108
[12:33] {Threei} I scalped it twice
[12:33] {Threei} both time exited too soon
[12:34] {Threei} 107.39 to 108.07
[12:34] {Threei} and 108.74 to 109.20
[12:38] {Threei} almost 40 points bounce NQ
[12:39] {Threei} is this maniac-depressive market or what
[12:39] {BillyD} lol
[12:39] {BillyD} maniac the key
[12:41] {dino} out bidu 315, +4.00
[12:41] {Threei} that's too much dino
[12:41] {dino} lol wild ride
[12:41] {dino} and now its 316+
[12:41] {Threei} you need to donate half to some starving tribe somewhere
[12:45] {Threei} and please, do not sufggest that this tribe should trade the msarkets, we have enough of those as it is, judging by market movements
[12:46] {dino} ok boss
[12:46] {dino} wcrx drop
[12:46] {Threei} CAST again...
[12:47] {Threei} something's brewing there... horrible spread though
[12:47] {BillyD} yeah got excited until saw spread
[12:52] {dino} calling it a day, a very good one. ty for ideas, back tomorrow
[12:52] {Threei} take care dino :)
[12:52] {Threei} hmmm.... CAST
[12:52] {BillyD} bye
[12:52] {Threei} took that big offer
[12:52] {Threei} and tightened the spread
[12:52] {BillyD} yes
[12:53] {BillyD} late in day
[12:53] {Threei} if .45 is taken, something does happen there
[12:55] {BillyD} true colors at .50
[12:55] {Threei} or fakes
[12:56] {BillyD} time will tell....tomorrow
[12:56] {BillyD} wow
[12:56] {Threei} you have so much toi dump, why wouldn't you hit the bid at .44 instead of showing to the wolrd that you got a lot of thin one to sell
[12:56] {Threei} someone called the bluff I guess, lol
[12:57] {BillyD} large offers all the way up
[12:57] {cosmo} some might think aft mkt rate cut?
[12:57] {Threei} yes... but the determination with which those two got hit is impressive
[12:57] {BillyD} very
[12:57] {Threei} you need to really commit to grab that much of such thin stock
[12:58] {BillyD} not a daytrader
[12:58] {Threei} no
[12:58] {BillyD} why I can't enter now
[12:58] {BillyD} different time frames
[12:59] {Threei} look at that
[12:59] {BillyD} steal at .40
[12:59] {Threei} going to be interestinfg
[12:59] {BillyD} you in
[12:59] {Threei} coulsdn't resist, took a bit at .40
[13:00] {Threei} tomorrow will show
[13:00] {BillyD} yes
[13:00] {Threei} unless it goes to 8 today, lol
[13:00] {BillyD} I will wait
[13:01] {Threei} offering at 8 in case some enthusiats eants it
[13:01] {Threei} wants
[13:01] {Threei} ok guys, thank you all
[13:01] {BillyD} cya Vad
[13:01] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow for another session of psychoanalysis
[13:02] {BillyD} good laugh there
[13:02] {BillyD} way to end day
Session Close: Wed Nov 21 00:00:00 2007

November 19, 2007

Session Start: Mon Nov 19 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Mon Nov 19 00:00:00 2007

[05:40] {Threei} Good morning RT
[05:41] {Threei} dumped CSIQ 17.99... not the profit I had in mind but since no good size gap better get out now and see if there is a play in it later
[05:41] {BillyD} it tried right at open
[05:41] {BillyD} good morning
[05:41] {Threei} hi :)
[05:49] {cosmo} BD:) .....ASU still gotta chance?
[05:51] {BillyD} for Rose Bowl yes
[05:51] {BillyD} BCS title not so sure
[05:51] {cosmo} BCS needs a playoff ...
[05:51] {Threei} what was that on CSIQ
[05:52] {cosmo} i just worry about USC
[05:52] {cosmo} ...sometimes
[05:54] {BillyD} yeah...never know
[05:55] {dptl} good morning all
[05:57] {Threei} dp :)
[06:00] {Threei} [CSUN] China Sunergy Announces Agreements with Canadian Solar
[06:00] {Threei} - Agreements with Canadian Solar are for a total volume of 25MW of solar cells for 2008. Under the Agreements, China Sunergy will supply approximately 12MW and 13MW of solar cells to Canadian Solar in the first and second half of the year respectively.
[06:00] {Threei} - The Agreements will be denominated in both Chinese yuan and US dollars, with approximately 24% of the volume being based on fixed pricing terms and the remainder being determined on a quarterl
[06:02] {esemde} good morning RT's...
[06:02] {Threei} ese :)
[06:07] {BillyD} Hi ese, dp
[06:13] {esemde} morning billy bruce dp hawk jm patience
[06:15] {bruce} hi ese
[06:15] {Threei} bruce :)
[06:16] {patience} morning ese and RT :)
[06:16] {bruce} hi vad
[06:16] {Threei} patience :)
[06:18] {patience} vad :)
[06:20] {BillyD} Vad, watching any one stock in particular at open
[06:21] {Threei} there are no clear candidates at this point... CSIQ is certainly on a radar
[06:21] {Threei} but this is not a breakout stock by any means
[06:21] {BillyD} ok..I have BIDZ with a gap
[06:21] {Threei} rather deep pullback stock
[06:23] {BillyD} see no news on BIDZ
[06:24] {Threei} nope
[06:24] {cosmo} 18.4 hod ..so far
[06:25] {cosmo} CSIQ pre mkt high = 18.49
[06:26] {hawkfan4} 19-Nov-07 07:19 ET In Play Bidz.com profiled in New America section of IBD (16.85 )
[06:26] {BillyD} thx hawk
[06:27] {hawkfan4} np :)
[06:27] {Threei} hawk :)
[06:27] {hawkfan4} morning vad, all
[06:28] {esemde} hawk
[06:29] {bruce} hi hawk
[06:30] {hawkfan4} bruce, ese :)
[06:31] {Threei} ALTI?
[06:31] {BillyD} I see nothing
[06:31] {Threei} FSLR strength
[06:32] {Threei} let's see if CSIQ bottoms out and folllows the suit
[06:32] {Threei} pulled back into 18
[06:32] {cosmo} DISH
[06:32] {cosmo} CNBCmention
[06:37] {Threei} ESLR .95 break long if stays above .80
[06:39] {Roman} ZIXI
[06:39] {Roman} long
[06:39] {Roman} 3.67
[06:43] {Threei} getting interested in CSIQ for bounce
[06:44] {BillyD} no real feel for me on CSIQ so far
[06:44] {Threei} in
[06:44] {Threei} stop under .50
[06:46] {Threei} LUNA interesting chart... low volume
[06:46] {Roman} VRSN strong
[06:47] {Roman} sqeezer
[06:48] {Threei} half out CSIQ +.40
[06:49] {BillyD} nice one
[06:50] {esemde} Bstop MCRL .81
[06:50] {Threei} LUNA feels like aiming for 8... very tough read because of low volume
[06:52] {esemde} l MCRL .78
[06:53] {esemde} decent fill
[06:55] {esemde} out .97 +.20
[06:57] {esemde} nice call on LUNA vad ,,,could very well make 8
[06:57] {Threei} yeah... had to enetr on pure faith though
[06:57] {BillyD} lol
[06:58] {esemde} how are feeling about CSIQ
[06:58] {esemde} possible long at .20
[06:58] {Threei} same... deep pullbacks are for entry
[06:58] {Threei} don't buy breaks on it
[07:01] {esemde} done
[07:04] {Threei} FSLR spike
[07:05] {Threei} likely to take CSIQ with it
[07:06] {BillyD} no new entry on it right?
[07:07] {cosmo} mcrl
[07:07] {cosmo} 9 break
[07:08] {Threei} no, not on breaks
[07:08] {cosmo} i c
[07:08] {Threei} this is anticipatory kind of trading
[07:08] {Threei} no cosmo, I am talking about CSIQ
[07:08] {BillyD} got it
[07:10] {Threei} it does same thing as on Friday
[07:11] {BillyD} seems so
[07:11] {Threei} breaks are impossible to trade on it since it spikes vertically into high, breaks and immediately drop under all supports
[07:12] {Threei} there it consolidates, slows down, sits for a while, tyhen spikes again
[07:13] {BillyD} we need some holidya trades
[07:13] {BillyD} crazy momo
[07:13] {Threei} [MCRL] Micrel, Incorporated Sign multi-million Contract With Commercial Solar Cell Company
[07:13] {Threei} -To supply commercial solar cells. Micrel's unique processing capability enables the creation of the highest efficiency solar cells presently available. The partnership will involve the manufacturing and supply of concentrated solar cells while supporting world wide environmental efforts and corporate 'Green' initiatives.
[07:14] {Threei} not fresh
[07:14] {cosmo} sounds like a slam dunk tho
[07:19] {BillyD} Vad...you like MCRL if .10 gets eaten
[07:20] {BillyD} in .11
[07:20] {Threei} looks strong and steady
[07:28] {BillyD} out here....27, .33 and earlier .22
[07:29] {Threei} nice one
[07:29] {BillyD} ty...
[07:32] {Threei} RUSSIAN DEP FIN MIN SUSPECTED OF $43M EMBEZZLEMENT SCHEME - WIRE HEADLINE CITING PROSECUTOR GENERAL OFFICEReminder: 11/16 Fin Min was arrested on undisclosed charges
[07:34] {BillyD} does he have a stock symbol to short
[07:34] {BillyD} slim pickings so far
[07:38] {esemde} big pullback on CSIQ...
[07:39] {esemde} would this qualify as pullback entry VAd
[07:39] {Threei} closwr to 17 I would feel safer
[07:46] {esemde} good call vad...trying to push down to .10
[07:47] {Threei} will try to bid under 17
[07:47] {Threei} too optimistic maybe...
[07:47] {Threei} but I'd rather miss this stock than enter too soon
[07:48] {Threei} brutal one
[07:48] {esemde} indeed
[07:48] {Threei} lol
[07:49] {Threei} IMMU?
[07:49] {Threei} no news that I see
[07:51] {esemde} me either..
[07:52] {Threei} YHOO 27.06 long if holding above 27
[07:55] {BillyD} FINL
[07:55] {BillyD} crazy spike
[07:56] {Threei} no news on wires so far
[07:57] {BillyD} ty
[07:58] {Threei} RIMM bounce candidate
[07:58] {Threei} with NQ recovery
[07:59] {Threei} in
[07:59] {Threei} got .60
[08:00] {Threei} half out
[08:00] {BillyD} nice
[08:00] {Threei} +.39
[08:00] {BillyD} no time to hesitate on entry
[08:00] {Threei} no
[08:00] {Threei} CSIQ under 17... still can't find clear entry
[08:01] {Threei} out second half RIMM+.70
[08:02] {Threei} dp will of course get 2 points
[08:02] {esemde} gonna go long small 1/3 lot here.....give this a try
[08:02] {Threei} CSIQ ese?
[08:02] {esemde} yes......
[08:04] {esemde} bstop .98
[08:05] {esemde} forget that.....
[08:05] {Threei} RIMM under 105 again
[08:05] {Threei} in
[08:06] {Threei} out -.2-
[08:06] {Threei} .20
[08:06] {Threei} too early
[08:07] {BillyD} you know where you stand rather quickly w/ RIMM
[08:07] {BillyD} VAD any thoughts on ESLR short off 13
[08:08] {Threei} missed under .50, wasn't sure, RIMM
[08:08] {Threei} if NQ continues down
[08:08] {Threei} ESLR pretty much became market follower lately
[08:09] {BillyD} short at 13...w/ .11 stop
[08:10] {BillyD} it held .80 tough the other day
[08:12] {Threei} CSIQ, .87 long if holding above .70
[08:12] {Threei} invalidated, wants even lower
[08:12] {Threei} but become intriguing at these levels
[08:15] {Threei} TREASURY SEC PAULSON: STRONG USD IN NATION'S INTEREST, ECONOMY WILL CONTINUE TO GROW
[08:15] {Threei} sigh
[08:16] {Threei} sheesh
[08:16] {Threei} can't believe I missed this RIMM dive
[08:20] {BillyD} out eslr
[08:20] {BillyD} -.13
[08:21] {esemde} hmmmmm power went out...i'm back....you long CSIQ VAd
[08:23] {Threei} I took scalp
[08:23] {Threei} .80 - 17.05
[08:23] {Threei} can
[08:23] {Threei} t bring myself to hold it for bigger move, this stock scares the living daylight out of me today
[08:24] {esemde} i've missed it then
[08:24] {Threei} can't even make myself call it with any degree of confidence
[08:50] {Threei} MOGN long .27
[08:50] {Threei} .09 stop
[08:52] {Threei} DISH
[08:52] {Threei} TICKS TO NEW HIGHS AFTER THESTREET.COM REPORTS NEAR A DEAL WITH AT&T
[08:56] {Threei} MOGN 1:1
[08:57] {BillyD} was stop .09 or .19
[08:57] {Threei} .09
[08:58] {Threei} still is, haven't trailed it
[08:58] {BillyD} didn't see it quite hit 1:1
[08:58] {BillyD} just clarifying
[08:58] {Threei} no, sorry, I meant 1:1 play
[08:59] {BillyD} ok
[08:59] {BillyD} was sending u a calculator for xmas...:)
[08:59] {Threei} please do
[08:59] {Threei} when it comes to math I need all the help I can get
[09:00] {Threei} and if you have spellchecker, consider it oo :)
[09:00] {BillyD} by the time you punch numbers into calc....you miss exit
[09:01] {BillyD} messing around with it
[09:02] {Threei} DISH is not a done deal, right?
[09:02] {Threei} just a report that it's likely
[09:03] {BillyD} not sure
[09:03] {Threei} MOGN stop to .14
[09:07] {cosmo} mcrl needs to hold 9.20 imo fwiw
[09:07] {bruce} can't see where the initial .09 stop came from in that vad
[09:07] {Threei} NQ is likely to rweverse upward here
[09:07] {Threei} RIMM shouldf follow
[09:08] {Threei} 11:45 bruce
[09:08] {Threei} from that moment on .10 became support
[09:10] {bruce} k - see it now - didn't really recognize that as a support level on my chart
[09:11] {Threei} if you got RIMM close to 106, look to exit on this spike, IMO
[09:11] {Threei} here it comes
[09:11] {dptl} long at 105.84
[09:12] * Threei slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[09:12] {Threei} beat me by 22 cents on entry, I got it at 106.06
[09:12] * Threei counts on BillyD to tell if 22 cents is correct
[09:13] {Threei} oh, and I am out at .65
[09:13] {BillyD} yup
[09:13] {Threei} let;s see by how much you beat me on exit
[09:14] {Threei} sharp downtick NQ
[09:14] {BillyD} Laserdave see dcc
[09:15] {Threei} stopped MOGN
[09:18] {Threei} SPAR
[09:18] {Threei} CEO: EXPECTS 36% INCOME GROWTH IN 2008
[09:18] {Threei} - sees 5-15% growth in 2008 Ambulance sales; Fire truck sales flat to down 3%
[09:24] {bruce} ED VAD - ANY READ?
[09:24] {bruce} sorry about caps
[09:24] {Threei} worth a try with .54 stop
[09:24] {Threei} slow one
[09:25] {bruce} thanx
[09:32] {Threei} interesting daily LNUX
[09:36] {Threei} ese, you ever found guts to enter CSIQ?
[09:39] {BillyD} Vad...were you able to see a RIMM play here w. the NQ uptick
[09:39] {BillyD} now downtick
[09:40] {esemde} hi Vad yes....i'm in half lot...at .25
[09:40] {esemde} stop at 17
[09:41] {esemde} decided to wait until it broke resistance at .20
[09:41] {esemde} on the way back up....we'll see...depends on NQ{ s&p ETC
[09:44] {Threei} no Billy, not really
[09:44] {BillyD} ty
[09:44] {Threei} it's somewhat disconnected last 30 min or so
[09:44] {BillyD} well...I guess I am reading it correctly then
[09:45] {BillyD} does it seem to work better with extreme moves....sell offs for bounce, etc
[09:46] {Threei} very much so
[09:46] {Threei} best situation is when NQ stages extreme move and RIMM gives a delay
[09:47] {BillyD} it's almost like RIMM continues down a bit more when NQ jumps up
[09:47] {BillyD} with the delay for better entry
[09:47] {Threei} exactly
[09:47] {Threei} it tends to overshoot NQ a little bit
[09:49] {BillyD} Vad...do you have a daily NQ chart up
[09:49] {Threei} yes
[09:49] {BillyD} and intraday
[09:49] {Threei} yes, 1 min
[09:50] {Roman} CSUN
[09:50] {Roman} spike don't see news
[09:50] {esemde} Have a great rest of the day everyone.
[09:51] {bruce} bye ese
[09:51] {Threei} take care ese
[10:00] {Threei} *NOV NAHB HOUSING MARKET INDEX: 19 V 17E
[10:15] {bruce} taking break
[10:16] {bruce} see you all
[10:16] {BillyD} cya bruce
[10:27] {Threei} CIEN becomes a bounce candidate
[10:28] {Threei} half lot long .55
[10:31] {BillyD} out w/ about .15 scalp...thx
[10:31] {Threei} :)
[10:31] {BillyD} wasn't sure of stop area
[10:31] {BillyD} unless low of day
[10:32] {Threei} it pretty much bottomed out at about .35
[10:32] {Threei} a few qyuick low prints were pure panic
[10:33] {Threei} out .90
[10:34] {BillyD} wtg
[10:35] {Threei} hmmm CSUN
[10:36] {Threei} not shortable
[10:36] {Threei} too bad
[10:36] {BillyD} yaeh..it usually falls back
[10:37] {Roman} i think there is something behind this CSUN move
[10:37] {Threei} looks like
[10:37] {Threei} more sustainable than usual
[10:37] {Roman} other solars are not moving
[10:45] {Threei} short RIMM on this bounce
[10:46] {Threei} stop above 106
[10:46] {Threei} got .69
[10:47] {BillyD} with you
[10:48] {Threei} come on NQ, give up
[10:49] {Threei} and lose 2020
[10:52] {Threei} stubborn thing
[10:52] {BillyD} yeah
[10:53] {Threei} finally
[10:53] {Threei} half out
[10:53] {BillyD} cov'd .43
[10:53] {Threei} .30
[10:53] {Threei} +.39
[10:53] {Threei} took considerable math efforts
[10:54] {BillyD} lol
[10:54] {Threei} .75 stop
[10:54] {BillyD} I cov'd 1/2 around even after pop up and NQ was popping up more
[10:55] {Threei} lose 2020 NQ
[10:55] {Threei} I want under 105
[10:56] {BillyD} should work now
[10:56] {Threei} still kicking
[10:56] {Threei} even though shouldn't
[10:57] {BillyD} not my fault anymore...I'm out....lol
[10:57] {Threei} wants me to work for my money... if I wanted that I'd become a plumber
[11:01] {Threei} beautiful
[11:01] {Threei} out .86
[11:01] {Threei} 69 + 14
[11:01] {Threei} +. 83
[11:02] {BillyD} very nice
[11:02] {Threei} you mean my math sakills no doubt
[11:02] {BillyD} wait...let me check
[11:02] {Chaeron} and typing/spelling skills
[11:02] {Threei} ah those
[11:07] {Threei} I think I need a keyboard with keys twice as big... somehow they all seem to touch one another and produce two letters instead of one
[11:22] {Threei} time for NQ to pullback
[11:23] {Threei} great missed RIMM short while typed that, lol
[11:24] {Threei} OK{ this spike
[11:25] {Threei} shorted
[11:27] {Threei} stopped, too strong still
[11:29] {Threei} second try
[11:29] {Threei} covered 107.75
[11:30] {Threei} +.29
[11:30] {Threei} am I fighting the trend or what
[11:31] {BillyD} I tried at 108 on bounce upand ended up stopping 108.15
[11:32] {BillyD} NQ keeps popping up on pb
[11:32] {Threei} short once again
[11:32] {Threei} should get something more decent this time
[11:33] {Threei} half out .68
[11:33] {Threei} stop above 108
[11:35] {Threei} come on NQ, 25 points bounce deserves a pullback finally, no?
[11:35] {Threei} {NQ} you pull back
[11:36] {BillyD} kick it
[11:36] {Threei} you think violence is the answer?
[11:36] {Threei} out
[11:36] {BillyD} no...it's kicking harder right now
[11:36] {Threei} +.30 and -.05
[11:36] {Threei} lol, by you violence is the answer only when you are stronger, right?
[11:37] {Threei} (not that I disagreed with that)...
[11:37] {BillyD} yes.....must know your limitations
[11:38] {BillyD} it's like....ok RIMM I can't seem to time my entries properly so I'll just back away for the moment
[11:39] {Threei} I hav e impression that last entries were against the grain and I made money onl;y thanks to natural volatility
[11:39] {Threei} just quickly exiting when it jumped around and appeared in profitable zone
[11:39] {BillyD} lucky
[11:40] {BillyD} where's dino...hehe
[11:40] {Threei} :)
[11:46] {Threei} UPDATE: NEEDHAM INITIATES CRDC WITH BUY, PRICE TARGET: $10
[11:50] {Threei} keep an eye on CRDC, it's a dangerous one but a mover when catches attention
[11:50] {Chaeron} Needham - decent firm
[11:50] {BillyD} when did that upgrade come out?
[11:50] {Threei} 14:45 on wire
[11:50] {Threei} that's what got my attention Chaeron, thanks for confirmation
[11:51] {Chaeron} yeah... reputable
[11:51] {Threei} not some boutique with no slightest idea
[11:51] {BillyD} thx...
[11:51] {BillyD} or paid pvt research firm
[11:55] {Threei} paid in those same shares they will dump on you if you believe their upgrade and buy
[11:55] {Threei} embodiment of conflict of interest
[11:56] {Threei} but of course that never happens... right?
[11:56] {BillyD} never
[11:57] {BillyD} den of thieves
[11:57] {BillyD} amongst thieves
[11:58] {Threei} ah come on Billy, we are just on a wrong side of business :)
[11:59] {bruce} I think billy pegged them pretty well
[11:59] {BillyD} well Vad....it is just part of the rules in trading....anything goes
[12:05] {dptl} 15 trades rimm today total points profit :+1.10 so far
[12:06] {Threei} well done
[12:06] {dptl} tnx learning
[12:06] {BillyD} nice dp
[12:08] {Chaeron} LAserDave - dcc
[12:09] {BillyD} if you get him...ask him to see mine
[12:09] {Chaeron} oh great......
[12:10] {BillyD} lol
[12:13] {Threei} CRDC maybe has it in itself... watching
[12:15] {Threei} dp, one word of caution if I may
[12:15] {Threei} do not consider RIMM your personal ASTM from now on and forever
[12:15] {Threei} ATM
[12:16] {Threei} they adopt readable patterns, then lose the tune
[12:16] {Threei} and if you don't spot the moment, you continue playing them by old rules which they do not obey anymore
[12:16] {dptl} yep as long as i can read it
[12:16] {Threei} it can happen even within a single day for a while
[12:17] {Threei} so gotta check for the following all the time
[12:19] {dptl} morning was ugly for me and then everything start working out
[12:34] {Threei} in CRDC
[12:36] {Threei} TREASURY'S STEEL: GLOBAL ECONOMY IS STRONG, US FUNDAMENTALS ARE HEALTHY
[12:36] {Threei} - Says housing decline is the most significant risk to the US economy, as US foreclosure rate is to remain elevated over the next 18 months
[12:36] {Threei} buyers have responsibility to understand mortgages, and mortgage providers must offer understandable information --- what a novel concept
[12:41] {Threei} RIMM level of interest for long again
[12:42] {Threei} +.49
[12:42] {Threei} come on CRDC, break 8
[12:47] {Threei} wanted RIMM around 106 this time... I guess I wanted too much
[12:48] {Threei} CRDC baby
[12:49] {Threei} offering 8.25, won't let it lose 8 on me, too close to eod
[12:50] {Threei} OK, out
[12:51] {Threei} too bad, if it had 1 hor mopre I'd get my 8.25 :)
[12:51] {Threei} worth watching tomorrow
[12:52] {Threei} sneaky thing, I like the way it quietly went up
[12:52] {BillyD} sneaky needham
[12:52] {Threei} lol
[12:52] {Threei} I like it
[12:53] {BillyD} good reads today Vad....
[12:53] {Threei} ty
[12:53] {Threei} not too active day
[12:53] {BillyD} no...but you are seeing very clearly
[12:55] {Threei} 3 eyes, you know...
[12:55] {BillyD} throw a blind man a cane...eh
[12:55] {Threei} (I know that's what cosmo was going to say, so I said it first)
[12:56] {Threei} argh, missed CSIQ diving to 16
[12:56] {Threei} OK guysd, thank you all
[12:56] {BillyD} ty
[12:56] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[13:01] {dptl} have a good evening see ya tomorrow all

November 15, 2007

Session Start: Thu Nov 15 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Thu Nov 15 00:00:00 2007

[05:27] {bruce} morning all
[05:36] {Threei} morning bruce
[05:37] {Threei} *OCT CONSUME PRICE INDEX M/M: 0.3% V 0.3%E, CPI EX FOOD_ENERGY M/M: 0.2% V 0.2%E, CPI NSA: 208.936 V 208.900
[05:37] {Threei} *INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 339K V 320KE, CONTINUING CLAIMS:2.568 M V 2.575ME
[05:37] {Threei} - Prior Continuing Claims revised from 2.579M to 2.575M
[05:38] {Threei} *NOV EMPIRE MANUFACTURING: 27.4 V 19.0E
[05:39] {hawkfan4} good morning vad
[05:41] {bruce} hello hawk
[05:43] {Threei} hawk :)
[05:45] {hawkfan4} morning bruce
[05:45] {bruce} do you need to reset laser charts every morning vad?
[05:45] {Threei} no why?
[05:45] {bruce} I keep a few small thmbnail charts always open
[05:45] {bruce} each morning about half never open
[05:46] {bruce} I need to type in new stock symbol to get them to display anything
[05:46] {Threei} did you save the layout after you made changes?
[05:46] {bruce} yes
[05:46] {Threei} wait... never opens as in don't show anything, remaining blank? or window itself doesn't appear?
[05:46] {bruce} not a big deal
[05:46] {bruce} just a nuisance
[05:47] {bruce} well for example
[05:47] {bruce} one chart is of rimm
[05:47] {bruce} it says rimm
[05:47] {cosmo} ADLS pre mkt high = 2.95 ...so far
[05:47] {bruce} but nothing is showing
[05:47] {bruce} and there is an x in left corner
[05:48] {Threei} X is a sign that chart is not working, yes
[05:48] {bruce} if I type ibm that stock comes up ok
[05:48] {bruce} then I can type rimm again and it will be ok
[05:48] {Threei} but why it happens for you and not for me... no idea
[05:48] {bruce} I'm using vista
[05:48] {Threei} argh
[05:48] {Threei} POS
[05:48] {bruce} may be a glitch
[05:49] {bruce} about half come up and half dont
[05:49] {Threei} [ADLS] Advanced Life Sciences Cethromycin Achieves All Endpoints in Second Pivotal Phase III Trial for Treatment of Pneumonia
[05:50] {Threei} will be years or some unexpected event that makes me switch to vista
[05:52] {dptl} good morning all
[05:53] {Threei} dp :)
[05:53] {cosmo} LOCM pre mkt high = 4.51 ...so far
[05:53] {Threei} I don't see any LOCM news
[05:54] {cosmo} Local.com begins licensing local search tdchnology
[05:54] {cosmo} Briefing.com (Thu 7:02am)
[05:54] {Threei} ty
[05:54] {cosmo} :)
[05:55] {Threei} OPEC PRESIDENT: HIGH OIL PRICES ARE POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS; HIGH OIL PRICES HAVE A LIMITED IMPACT ON DEMAND
[05:55] {bruce} hi dp, cosmo
[05:55] {cosmo} bruce:)
[05:58] {Threei} NUAN GUIDES FY08 R$875-900M V 864.7M
[06:02] {esemde} good morning ....NUAN is back ehhhhhh
[06:02] {Threei} ese :)
[06:02] {Threei} morning fingers warm-up
[06:02] {Threei} grabbed half lot at 20, bailed at 20.07 and .06
[06:02] {Threei} made whole 25 bucks
[06:03] {esemde} nice work.....pre a post trding is a tough business
[06:03] {Threei} MICROSOFT TO PAY $46M TO ACQUIRE MUSICWAVE SA FROM OPWV
[06:03] {Threei} something's wrong with NUAN
[06:04] {Threei} dumping like there is no tomorrow
[06:04] {Threei} or there is but very bleak
[06:04] {bruce} hi ese
[06:05] {bruce} how are you dealaing w new celebrity status?
[06:06] {bruce} rimm appears to be at premarket low
[06:06] {dino} gm all;
[06:06] {bruce} want to try a bouce vad?
[06:07] {Threei} dino :)
[06:07] {bruce} hi dino
[06:07] {Threei} he is not really NEW celebrity bruce... name him to practically anyone in music scene here, everyone nods
[06:07] {Threei} bounce on what?
[06:07] {Threei} NUAN?
[06:07] {bruce} no answer - hes proably signing autographs right now
[06:07] {dino} gm bruce
[06:07] {bruce} rimm
[06:07] {Threei} or instructing his bodyguards to keep you away bruce
[06:08] {bruce} you bet - I'm dangerous
[06:08] {Threei} hmmm... not sure
[06:08] {Threei} RIMM is dangerous as it is, multiply by 3 premarket
[06:08] {bruce} about dangerous or the bounce?
[06:09] {Threei} lol, bounce
[06:09] {bruce} k
[06:09] {Threei} my take on premarket trading:
[06:10] {Threei} it takes something very very clear or extraordinary to make me do it
[06:11] {Threei} routine opportinities will be presented all over during normal market hours, why would I want to chase them in more risky premarket environment
[06:11] {bruce} k - same
[06:11] {bruce} I start looking at charts about premarket open - but don't trade those
[06:11] {Threei} same
[06:11] {bruce} spreads too big
[06:11] {Threei} shape up initial universe of stocks to watch
[06:15] {Threei} NTAP is back to yesterday's close
[06:24] {Roman} LDK alert
[06:25] {Roman} LDK sees Q4 $0.37-0.41 vs $0.39 Reuters consensus; sees revs $165-170 mln vs $163.12 mln Reuters consensus
[06:25] {Threei} too bad I couldn't short it for long term hold
[06:32] {Threei} NTAP short ,89
[06:32] {Threei} 27.01 stop
[06:33] {dino} rig hl l .13
[06:33] {Threei} out .65
[06:33] {dino} stop lod
[06:33] {Threei} 1:3 in seconds
[06:34] {Threei} 1:2 sorry
[06:34] {Threei} and if I had just a bit more patience...
[06:34] {bruce} missed it completely
[06:34] {bruce} never got it up in time
[06:34] {Roman} ETFC
[06:34] {bruce} nice trade bvad
[06:34] {Threei} it was there for a while after my post...
[06:36] {esemde} long CSIQ 14.93....
[06:36] {bruce} what do you call that ?
[06:36] {bruce} short continuation on pullback?
[06:37] {Threei} just short...
[06:37] {Threei} nice CSIQ ese
[06:39] {Threei} half out?
[06:40] {esemde} out CSIQ .35 +.42
[06:40] {Threei} wtg
[06:40] {esemde} still goin but i'll take my .42
[06:41] {dino} gj
[06:42] {Threei} as much as I would like to tell you "no, hold it"... my hardcore scalper's nature prevents me from lecturing anyone of taking profit :)
[06:42] {esemde} if it retraces i'lll think about the pull back
[06:42] {Threei} or consolidates and forms a range for breakout
[06:42] {Threei} SEED
[06:43] {esemde} yes
[06:43] {Threei} I don't swee any SEED news
[06:43] {Roman} GIGM
[06:43] {Roman} long off 21
[06:43] {Threei} thing dropped from highs deep enough to beconme a bounce play
[06:44] {Threei} 6.67 long half lot
[06:44] {Threei} OPEC PRESIDENT SAYS WILL NOT HESITATE TO INCREASE OUTPUT IF WARRANTED BY SHORTAGES
[06:46] {Threei} sheesh NTAP
[06:47] {bruce} ptry
[06:47] {Threei} living proof why I have no rights to tell anyone to hold longer
[06:47] {Threei} 09:46:50 ADMIN7 --} (All): NASDAQ has declared Self Help against the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) as/of 9:34:45 E.T
[06:47] {Threei} what the heck does that mean
[06:48] {bruce} hmmm - maybe they're offering relaxation courses to nyse market makers?
[06:49] {dino} rig stopped -.34
[06:49] {Threei} 09:49:16 ADMIN7 --} (All): NYSE having systemwide problems!
[06:51] {esemde} long ESLR 13.23
[06:54] {esemde} out ESLR .43 +.20 scalp
[06:54] {Threei} wtg
[06:54] {Threei} ese is hot
[06:54] {Threei} if a quote is not updating, a market center can declare self-help, and must notify the destination(s) of its order flow that a self-help situation exists. In such a situation, NASDAQ will turn off its router to the market center (as it has in the past). What is new is the explicit declaration of a self-help situation.
[06:54] {esemde} tks....
[06:55] {bruce} congrats ese
[06:55] {bruce} no idea at all how you saw eslr as a ong but gald it worked for you
[06:56] {dino} gsol l .92, stop .46
[06:56] {esemde} done for the day basically....
[06:56] {Threei} ese is my hero... wake up, grab easy money, go about your life... or back to sleep
[06:57] {dino} great job ese
[06:57] {esemde} tks Vad....have a good mentor
[06:57] {esemde} Am just going to be watching and enjoying you all
[06:58] {Threei} care to introduce me to him?
[06:58] {esemde} sure he make great shikabob
[06:58] {Threei} OK, I think I finally found it
[06:58] {Threei} Nasdaq Self Help Declarations/Revocations messages (“Notices”). These Notices will alert participants that Nasdaq is experiencing communications issues with a particular market center. It is intended to cause members to perform an independent review of their communications with that market center and assess their trading obligations with respect to that market
[06:59] {Threei} just an aleret about troubles at certain market
[06:59] {bruce} translation - dont trade nyse now
[06:59] {Threei} yep, and for NYSE - "get your sh*t together
[07:00] {Threei} Roman's SATC is trying
[07:01] {Threei} CSIQ again
[07:01] {Threei} .20 break half lot long
[07:01] {dino} gsol stopped , major slippage -.60
[07:01] {Threei} only if stays above 16
[07:01] {bruce} yep - really rinsed on that one
[07:02] {dino} nose bleeding, they tagged me
[07:02] {Threei} CSIQ 1:1
[07:03] {Threei} exit into spike
[07:03] {Threei} out .60
[07:03] {esemde} nice work....
[07:03] {Threei} quick and easy .37, got it at .23
[07:03] {esemde} see.... i said i'd enjoy this
[07:04] {Threei} :)
[07:04] {dino} ati hl l .25, stop .83
[07:06] {dino} stopped. taking a break
[07:07] {bruce} major downspike - good you got out dino
[07:08] {Threei} 16.80 break CSIQ again, small shares
[07:08] {dino} yeah
[07:08] {Threei} geting riskier as moves higher
[07:08] {dino} off of .00 try again
[07:08] {dino} mkt wants up imo
[07:09] {Threei} exit here
[07:09] {Threei} quick 25 cents
[07:09] {dino} ok
[07:10] {bruce} nice vad - I didn't take it - looked like stop was about .29?
[07:10] {Threei} {--- major source of ese's enetrainment this morning
[07:10] {Threei} .29??
[07:10] {Threei} no way
[07:10] {Roman} long ESLR
[07:11] {bruce} k - thats last low I saw on one min
[07:11] {Threei} two bars before the break bottomed just above .50
[07:12] {dino} the only bar i see is a block up the street
[07:12] {bruce} k - I see that too
[07:12] {bruce} just wondering where I would have set stop if had taken it
[07:13] {bruce} thanx
[07:13] {Threei} I would replace it with candles dini, but I am scared even to think what kkinf of associations that could inbvoke in you
[07:14] {dino} lol
[07:14] {Threei} :)
[07:14] {Threei} NTAP .51 long
[07:14] {Threei} .39 stop
[07:15] {Threei} sheesh CSIQ
[07:15] {esemde} No kidding....
[07:16] {esemde} wowwwww
[07:17] {bruce} stopped ntap
[07:19] {dino} dwsn pop
[07:20] {Threei} DTSI small shares long if breaks .28
[07:21] {Threei} CSUN
[07:21] {Threei} .85 half lot long
[07:22] {bruce} stop .14 dtsi vad?
[07:22] {Threei} yes but slippage will likely take you out under .10
[07:22] {Threei} so small shares
[07:23] {bruce} k
[07:23] {Threei} ugh... mistype CSUN
[07:23] {Threei} .55 trigger
[07:24] {bruce} was wondering about that
[07:24] {bruce} big offer at .58 vad
[07:24] {Threei} and big bid at .50...
[07:24] {Threei} momo comes they all don't matter
[07:25] {bruce} k
[07:25] {Threei} no momo, even 1K offer will scare them off
[07:31] {Threei} *DOE CRUDE: +2.8M V -750KE; GASOLINE: +714K V -100KE; DISTILLATES: -2M V -200KE; UTILIZATION: 87.7 % V 86.7%E
[07:31] {Threei} *EIA NATURAL GAS INVENTORIES: -9BCF VS. -5 TO -10 BCF EXPECTED RANGE
[07:31] {bruce} csun stop to .39 would think?
[07:31] {Threei} yup
[07:32] {Threei} we are swimming in oil according to those numbers or what
[07:35] {bruce} bloody hell - stopped
[07:35] {bruce} sheesh
[07:37] {dino} thatkkind of day sop far, stops
[07:43] {Threei} CSIQ bounce candidate
[07:44] {Threei} as close to 16 as possible
[07:47] {Threei} missed... wanted it lower
[07:49] {bruce} actg long vad?
[07:50] {Threei} .40 break...
[07:50] {Threei} worth a try, half lot
[07:50] {Threei} stop would have to be under .20
[07:51] {bruce} k - was hoping .25 would be reasonalbe stop
[07:51] {Threei} .24
[07:52] {Threei} best I can do, sorry :)
[07:52] {Threei} I would have to go to my super to get you a better price
[07:52] {bruce} lol - understood - got to listen to market
[07:54] {Roman} SATC
[07:57] {dino} rimm 105
[07:57] {Roman} LOCM high
[07:59] {Threei} very nice read on SATC roman
[07:59] {Threei} I wish I had patience for this kind
[08:02] {Threei} bruce
[08:02] {Threei} offer it out
[08:02] {Threei} it's trading above 1:1 at the offer
[08:03] {Roman} GIGM spike
[08:03] {bruce} out
[08:03] {Threei} good
[08:03] {bruce} thanx
[08:03] {Threei} I don't care what it does next, you just need a win
[08:03] {bruce} 3 stops 1 win
[08:04] {bruce} probably should have stopped for day already butglad that one worked
[08:04] {Threei} I don't want to overdrill it... but review the calls
[08:04] {Threei} you skipped all winning ones, and fairly decent size of wins,
[08:04] {Threei} and picked two small stops
[08:05] {bruce} yes - missed winners
[08:06] {bruce} typical
[08:06] {Threei} the day you know why you do it, or learn how to overcome this is the day tyour trading turns around
[08:07] {bruce} it wan't intentional vad
[08:07] {bruce} busy looking for trades and look at this screen intermittently
[08:07] {Threei} of course not
[08:08] {Threei} but when it happens so often that you label it as typical
[08:08] {Threei} it's not an accident
[08:08] {bruce} it is typical
[08:08] {Threei} it's a pattern
[08:08] {bruce} you've seen it
[08:08] {bruce} don't see how that canhappen over and over
[08:08] {Threei} I have
[08:08] {bruce} I'm not screening what I take
[08:14] {esemde} have a great rest of the day everyone.....
[08:14] {bruce} see you ese
[08:14] {Threei} take cares ese
[08:14] {esemde} see ya bruce Vad...
[08:19] {bruce} wow - actg - wish I'd held half
[08:19] {Threei} no you don't
[08:22] {bruce} loh_ was good to exit withwin on all of it for sure
[08:30] {bruce} bucy dino
[08:33] {dino} dk
[08:35] {bruce} nyse is having connection issues dino
[08:36] {bruce} any read bphx vad?
[08:36] {Threei} not really
[08:37] {Threei} can do anything here
[08:37] {bruce} k
[08:44] {dino} abii
[08:45] {dino} can't be right
[08:45] {dino} spinoff
[08:46] {Threei} eeck
[08:47] {dino} for the mkt being down only a couple, stocks i watch are getting crushed
[08:47] {bruce} wow - almost 9$ spread
[08:48] {dino} we missed that, should've took a 100 shares short
[08:48] {bruce} probably not a great time to be swing trading - stocks seem to be pretty erratic
[08:49] {bruce} shell shocked here dino- looking for something a bit safer
[08:49] {dino} yeah, i'm not doing much
[08:50] {dino} watching dwsn for bottom and actg for spike up to short
[08:50] {dino} serious pin action imo, taking lots to the 5's and 0's
[08:50] {Threei} GNBT...
[08:51] {Threei} hate this stock... but seems to be climbing steadily
[08:52] {bruce} I thought you advised agains t stocks with such a small daily range vad
[08:53] {Threei} that's why I hate it
[08:53] {bruce} lol
[08:53] {Threei} it's eaither swing, or sclap type 1 if you can identify the setup
[08:53] {bruce} fwiw hon has really nice tend too - but who knows where it will reverse - and its nyse
[08:57] {bruce} do you find most of your winning trades tend to work out right away dino?
[08:59] {dino} no, my entries usually suck
[08:59] {dino} expect to be wrong...as i usually lose a dime on entry
[08:59] {bruce} not true - saw youcatch almost exact bottom or top multiple times
[09:00] {dino} small %
[09:00] {Threei} *NOV PHILADELPHIA FED INDEX: 8.2 V 5.0E
[09:00] {dino} but doesn't matter, size and stop matter. profits=luck... losses = skill
[09:00] {Threei} - New Orders: 3.5 v 2.7 prior
[09:00] {Threei} - Employment: 4.8 v 12.6 prior
[09:00] {Threei} - Prices Paid: 37.7 v 40.3 prior
[09:01] {bruce} k
[09:14] {bruce} ntap deciding whether to breakdown
[09:15] {bruce} thought on ntap vad?
[09:17] {dino} ms l .86 hl
[09:21] {Threei} tough one bruce...
[09:22] {bruce} k
[09:23] {dino} ms stop is .69 fwiw
[09:27] {dino} out -.17\
[09:31] {bruce} bad luck today dino
[09:32] {dino} yes, not my day, most likely end in red
[09:36] {bruce} rimm is dropping
[09:38] {dino} appy
[09:40] {dino} hl l .79
[09:44] {dino} stop is .49
[09:45] {bruce} thanx dino
[09:46] {dino} np
[09:53] {dino} almost like double ottom day on rimm, dwsn, rig, nyx, drys, tbsi, etc
[09:54] {dino} bottom
[09:56] {dino} tighen appy to b/e stalled
[09:57] {bruce} yes
[09:57] {bruce} exiting dino
[09:57] {bruce} no nerves today
[09:58] {bruce} gonna take a break
[09:58] {dino} brb
[10:11] {Threei} CSIQ, 16.10 worth a try long if not losing 15.90 anymore
[10:17] {Threei} wow... blast from the past... ADAM
[10:25] {Threei} half lot short ACTG right here
[10:25] {Threei} stop over .60
[10:26] {Threei} just counting in .50 continuing holding
[10:26] {dino} ehth
[10:28] {Threei} still going
[10:33] {dino} missed it
[10:33] {Threei} die ACTG
[10:34] {dino} you took it where?
[10:34] {dino} ok i see above
[10:35] {Threei} .47
[10:37] {Threei} 1:1... feels like has more in it...
[10:37] {Threei} bidding .15
[10:37] {Threei} won't let it go over .35 on me
[10:38] {dino} gj
[10:38] {Threei} half done
[10:38] {Threei} done in full
[10:39] {Threei} that was nice... no upticks, just died
[10:40] {dino} ehth s hl .55, stop .01
[10:41] {dino} gj
[10:44] {dino} bstop to .31
[10:44] {dino} to .12
[10:45] {dino} stopped .10, +.45
[10:46] {Threei} wow, gutsy one
[10:46] {Threei} ugh, ACTG still dropping
[10:46] {dino} something had to work, :)
[10:46] {Threei} LOCM some enthusiasm
[10:46] {dino} big bounce
[10:47] {dino} frpt
[10:49] {dino} frpt l hl .00, stop .73
[10:50] {Threei} some day I will be like dino, and will hold ACTG short for real move :)
[10:52] {dptl} still holding
[10:53] {dino} lol, i only get the big ones when they don't bounce to my trailing stop
[10:53] {Threei} ACTG dp??
[10:53] {dptl} yep
[10:53] {Threei} wow, you are patient one
[10:53] {dino} gj
[10:53] {Threei} this one never did dino... I just bid it into sharp drop
[10:54] {Threei} with trailing it would work for something like 16.80
[10:54] {Threei} and I covered 30 cents higher on average
[10:55] {Threei} I was tempted to say "bidded" but was scared of Raven
[10:56] {dino} lol
[10:56] {Threei} come on dp, it strengthens
[10:57] {Threei} trail to .86
[10:57] {Threei} please?
[10:57] {dptl} ah....covered .82
[10:57] {Threei} wtg
[10:57] {Threei} that was a grown-up trade
[10:57] {Threei} dino-like
[10:58] {dptl} +.58
[10:58] {dino} great job
[10:58] {dptl} thnx
[10:59] {Threei} one such trade can make whole day
[10:59] {Threei} and it was anything but stressful
[10:59] {Threei} lousy 10-15 cents stop
[11:00] {dino} fmcn
[11:01] {dino} apopy stopped -.04
[11:01] {Threei} in FMCN, stop just under .50
[11:01] {Threei} small of course
[11:04] {Threei} bids started chasing up
[11:05] {Threei} come on, move
[11:05] {Threei} nope
[11:06] {Threei} those were all real bids, and got sold into
[11:08] {Threei} can't decide if it's worth a second try
[11:17] {Raven} back ... "bidded" ... ohmygod
[11:18] {bruce} is ohmygod a word raven?
[11:18] {Raven} you bet
[11:18] {bruce} k
[11:18] {bruce} adding it to vacab learned here
[11:18] {Raven} yes
[11:21] {Threei} bidded is just as good as spreaded
[11:21] {Threei} or selled
[11:21] {Threei} or striked
[11:22] {Raven} {}
[11:22] {Raven} sheesh
[11:22] {Threei} {--- hiding
[11:22] {Threei} ummm... I should say "hided"
[11:22] {Raven} that does it
[11:22] * Raven slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:22] {Threei} uh oh
[11:22] {Threei} hided not too well I see
[11:22] * Raven slaps dino around a bit with a large trout
[11:23] * Raven and Chaeron too
[11:24] * Raven kicks magoo out of his tree stand
[11:25] {bruce} fmcn tricky ba@ta@d
[11:25] {bruce} new low then higher low confirmation of trend reversal
[11:27] {dino} lol\
[11:33] {bruce} dino - you would have given fmcn about 20c from new low for your stop if had traded it as reversal?
[11:39] {dino} y
[11:39] {dino} never hit me i was at 54.05
[11:39] {Threei} raven hit you
[11:39] {Threei} doesa it count?
[11:40] {Threei} I mean he hitted you
[11:40] {Threei} gosh, one day Raven is going to take a trip to Victoria just to suffocate me
[11:41] {bruce} ah - you mean your long entry is at .05 or your stop?
[11:41] {dino} long entry, stop was .69\
[11:41] {bruce} k - got you
[11:41] {dino} figured .00 would hold
[11:41] {dino} not trading it now tho
[11:42] {Raven} lol
[11:42] {bruce} looks like you read it right - doesn't seem to be done dumping yet
[11:42] {dino} can't figure out what this mkt wants today
[11:42] {Raven} your $$
[11:42] {bruce} lol
[11:42] {bruce} raven nailed it
[11:42] {Threei} sure... but why "today"?
[11:43] {Raven} because it is snowing ?
[11:43] {Threei} maybe I am paranoid... but it seems to me it always wants mine
[11:43] {Threei} rarely gets it though
[11:43] {Raven} heh
[11:43] {bruce} lol - got to learn to share vad
[11:43] {Threei} my streak continues so far, no single l,osing day in Nov
[11:44] {Raven} nice
[11:44] {Threei} I shared my fair share in 1996-1998 bruce
[11:44] {bruce} great
[11:44] {Threei} enough is enough
[11:44] {bruce} feel same
[11:44] {Threei} since then sharing goes one way
[11:44] {bruce} done done done w sharing
[11:51] {dino} bidu -24
[11:52] {Threei} -26 you mean
[11:53] {dino} lol
[12:00] {dino} rimm back to 100
[12:09] {Threei} getting tempted by RIMM
[12:09] {dino} same thinking overnight
[12:09] {dino} same w/bidu small
[12:11] {Threei} in for a scalp
[12:11] {Threei} .28
[12:12] {Threei} happily out
[12:12] {Threei} .65
[12:15] {Threei} sigh
[12:15] {Threei} do I ever grow up
[12:17] {bruce} why would you want to vad?
[12:17] {Threei} I wanna be like dino
[12:17] {bruce} would make you an "old fart" as the kids say
[12:17] {bruce} lol
[12:17] {Threei} ummm
[12:17] {Threei} am afraid I am there already, lol
[12:18] {dino} dino is younger than vad
[12:18] {bruce} just get yourself one of those funny circus mirrors
[12:18] {Threei} dino gets bigger moves
[12:18] {bruce} lucky you dino
[12:18] {bruce} youth
[12:18] {dino} missed both, my kids distracted me
[12:18] {bruce} \good lucks
[12:18] {bruce} and good lucks in the markets
[12:18] {bruce} what more could you ask for?
[12:19] {bruce} lol
[12:20] {dino} bidu up 6
[12:22] {bruce} yes -i like dinos plays too- like the larger moves
[12:24] {Threei} don't take my blabbing too seriuosly bruce
[12:24] {Threei} what I do works for me for many years
[12:24] {Threei} indivudual personalitytraits form the way of trading
[12:24] {dino} you have to find your own style bruce.
[12:24] {bruce} understood
[12:24] {Threei} and I am a bit too old to change my personality
[12:25] {Threei} entire process of learning to trade is nothing more than process of learning what you are
[12:26] {Threei} and how to transfer this knowledge into what youi do
[12:26] {dptl} yep...i am still trying to figure that out
[12:26] {bruce} me too
[12:26] {bruce} does shallow count?
[12:27] {Threei} that would be me
[12:27] {dino} lol
[12:27] {Threei} so yes it doesa
[12:27] {bruce} damn - hoped not
[12:27] {Threei} tree good, fire bad
[12:27] {Threei} this deep wisdom is enough to trade correctly
[12:28] {Threei} profit good, loss bad - there, try to beat this
[12:28] {bruce} lol
[12:28] {Threei} now, the real shocker bruce:
[12:28] {bruce} possible reversal setup cmi dino
[12:28] {Threei} if you think the right way to trade is much different from what I just said, you are mistaken
[12:29] {Threei} it's just that it takes a lot of complications to arrive at this simplicity
[12:29] {Threei} but when things click for you, you find out that this is really that simple
[12:29] {bruce} well - starting to think I'm just cursed
[12:30] {bruce} would have quit long ago if had any brains
[12:30] {Threei} there is a good reason why dino repeats all the time "keep it simple"
[12:30] {Threei} noone is cursed
[12:30] {Threei} you are looking in a wrong place
[12:31] {Threei} and if I thought like that, I would have quit somewhere in a course of my first two years
[12:31] {Threei} what a shame that would be
[12:31] {Threei} RIMM ready again
[12:31] {bruce} you haven't noticed my knack for jinxing your own callsw?
[12:32] {Threei} nope
[12:32] {Threei} you just pick out of them
[12:32] {Threei} some work some don't
[12:32] {Threei} normal for me
[12:32] {Threei} most work as you can see easily if you go over log
[12:34] {Threei} but when you try to pick only working ones you ruin the very core of the approach
[12:34] {dino} right
[12:34] {dino} 'cause you mess w/the system
[12:34] {dino} crrc
[12:34] {bruce} I don't do that though
[12:34] {Threei} yep, tryying to beat the odds
[12:34] {Threei} no?
[12:35] {bruce} laptop is not in direct view
[12:35] {Threei} each day you follow several losing ones while skipping several winning ones
[12:35] {bruce} so sometimesw I don't see trade till after it fires
[12:35] {dino} thin
[12:35] {dino} ccrc i mean
[12:35] {Threei} didn't think you meant me
[12:35] {Threei} 'cause am not
[12:36] {Threei} but am trying
[12:36] {Threei} diet... exericise...
[12:41] {Raven} lol
[12:43] {Threei} tell me you got RIMM near 101 dino
[12:44] {dino} cmi l hl .75
[12:44] {Threei} 'cause I did... but being putz I am sold 101.65
[12:44] {dino} stop lod
[12:46] {dino} no
[12:46] {dino} cmi instead
[12:46] {Threei} :(
[12:46] {Threei} you would have held to 103
[12:46] {Threei} unlike shmuck me
[12:46] * Threei slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[12:46] {Threei} there... I feel better now
[12:47] {dptl} i would...lol
[12:47] {Threei} lol
[12:48] {Threei} underexploited RIMM today for some reason
[12:48] {Threei} just 3 trades
[12:48] {bruce} cmi w 113 breakand 112.50 stop dino?
[12:49] {dino} y
[12:49] {bruce} k
[12:49] {bruce} maybe i'm learning
[12:53] {Threei} argh
[12:53] {Threei} missed RIMM on dive under 102
[12:53] {Threei} wanted last scalp for the day
[12:54] {bruce} since when you starte to play stuff like rimm vad?
[12:55] {Threei} when it became readable
[12:55] {Threei} it stops I quit
[12:55] {Threei} I don't really have any preferences for stocks, I go where activity and readability is
[12:55] {Threei} and risk control within my tolerance of course
[12:56] {Threei} never could control DRYS for instance, never playing it
[12:56] {Threei} same for GOOG
[12:56] {Threei} very rarely BIDU
[12:56] {Threei} LULU was readable for a while then stopped
[12:56] {dino} frpt out flat
[12:57] {Threei} RIMM is great player these days, I am close to 80% on it
[12:57] {Threei} AAPL, AMZN same thing - sometimes can get a read on them, more often not
[12:57] {bruce} k
[12:58] {Threei} when there are no easy momo stocks, I just surf over all the usual suspects
[12:58] {Threei} if one of them shows good read, I founf my bread and butter for the time being
[12:59] {dino} cmi out .73-.02
[13:00] {Threei} ok guys, thank you
[13:00] {Threei} have a great evcening
[13:00] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[13:00] {bruce} wtg dino
[13:00] {bruce} thought you would get stopped
[13:00] {dino} had .50, but f'ck'd up
[13:00] {dino} down day, hope i didn't hurt anyone
[13:01] {bruce} it dropped below .5
[13:01] {Threei} you hurt my faith in humanity dino
[13:01] {bruce} worked ok to hold and get out at be
[13:01] {dino} i was in at .75, see above
[13:01] {bruce} yes
[13:01] {bruce} good exit
[13:02] {dino} 70$+ stocks i use about .50 on the stops
[13:02] {bruce} k
[13:02] {bruce} was thinking same
[13:02] {bruce} still pretty tight for those moves
[13:02] {bruce} they go tht fqar in 1 min candle
[13:03] {bruce} 6 down days in row for me
[13:03] {bruce} see you guys in am
[13:03] {dino} later bruce
[13:03] {bruce} yep

November 14, 2007

Session Start: Wed Nov 14 00:00:01 2007

Session Time: Wed Nov 14 00:00:01 2007


Session Start: Wed Nov 14 10:48:49 2007
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[10:49] {Threei} ALTI
[10:49] {Threei} ANNOUNCES $7M IN FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ECO-FRIENDLY BATTERY AND SENSOR PROGRAMS
[10:49] {Threei} - The first project, which is to receive $5M, is directed toward a continuing project with the U.S. Navy involving the production of a 2.5-megawatt stationary power supply.
[10:49] {Threei} - The $2M in funding will allow Altairnano to increase the sensit
[10:49] {esemde} CLWR....shot up instantly
[10:51] {Threei} earlier today,
[10:51] {Threei} [CLWR] Clearwire WSJ looks at company's WiMax strategy
[10:51] {Threei} - Article notes the company may have other options
[10:51] {Threei} - Article notes Intel, Google and Comcast as possible jv partners
[10:51] {Threei} don't see anything fresh
[10:51] {Threei} if I remember correct, CLWR has to do with Craig McCaw ese... owner of the island against my crabbing doc :)
[10:51] {Threei} dock
[10:52] {dino} you are right
[10:52] {esemde} Are you serious........
[10:52] {Threei} yup, james Island is his
[10:52] {esemde} how did you find that out
[10:52] {Threei} it's open information
[10:53] {Threei} CSIQ
[10:53] {esemde} now theres some information that causes you to go...Hmmmmmmm......
[10:53] {Threei} .15 half lot long
[10:53] {esemde} have you got an entry for CSIQ....been watching it
[10:53] {Threei} a bit scary stock
[10:55] {esemde} 14.15 per chance
[10:55] {dino} out wynn .33, +.78
[10:55] {esemde} volume ios up 500% should make a go at the highs
[10:56] {Threei} volatility is a bit bigger on it than I'd like
[10:56] {bruce} v nice dino
[10:57] {bruce} looked to me like it still wanted to go short on that l entry
[10:57] {Threei} McCaw does owns James Island, a couple of kilometers off Central Saanich on South Vancouver Island. He bought the island in 1994 for $19 million.
[10:57] {Threei} http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/techtracks/archives/2006/07/mccaws_bc_getaway_1.html
[10:59] {esemde} HUH.... how bout that...
[10:59] {Threei} and he will sell to you if you are up to it ese:
[10:59] {Threei} http://www.forbes.com/2001/04/20/0420movers.html
[11:00] {esemde} fell bad that he has so much money....must be a burden for him
[11:00] {dino} got lucky bruce
[11:00] {dino} fast fall
[11:00] {Chaeron} is this the Real Estate Channel or are we going to stick with stocks??? :) GM all
[11:00] {Threei} chaeron :)
[11:01] {Threei} we are just looking to reinvest out URRE winnings
[11:01] {Chaeron} I thought you liked Kona... :)
[11:01] {esemde} just taking about the island your going to buy chaeron...
[11:02] {Chaeron} only if I have your money Ese :)
[11:02] {esemde} just a facade....just a facade....
[11:02] {Threei} Kona I love... but I will need to scalp RIMM dfozen more times
[11:02] {Chaeron} Ese - lol
[11:03] {bruce} morningchaeron
[11:04] {bruce} you played it perfect dino
[11:04] {Chaeron} hey Bruce good to see you... let's kick some market tail today guys
[11:05] {bruce} have feeling wynn will test 131 area
[11:06] {bruce} lol
[11:06] {bruce} workin on not getting own butt kicked to hard or often chaeron
[11:07] {dino} risky, sm l tbsi .20
[11:07] {dino} sdtop .72
[11:10] {bruce} l tbsi 46 evfen
[11:12] {dino} stopped .81, -.39
[08:12] {bruce} stopped .71
[08:16] {dino} rinsed us
[08:17] {bruce} jinxed you dino
[08:17] {bruce} sorry
[08:18] {bruce} looks like reverse just 6 c under stop
[08:18] {dino} l hl wynn .03
[08:19] {dino} stop .48
[08:19] {dino} anything can happen bruce, not your fault
[08:20] {esemde} ROMAN.... what do you think of ALTI
[08:21] {bruce} thanks dino
[08:21] {bruce} hope wynn works for you
[08:21] {Threei} NVDA, watching for pullback entry for scalp
[08:21] {bruce} don't like it l yet
[08:21] {Threei} closer to .60
[08:21] {dino} tbsi follows drys, fyi
[08:21] {Threei} seems to follow NQ with little delay
[08:23] {Threei} in
[08:23] {Threei} stop .49
[08:24] {bruce} l nvda
[08:24] {Threei} just a scalp most likely
[08:26] {bruce} you thinking .70 exit if we get it vad?
[08:26] {Threei} ALTI honestly trying
[08:27] {Threei} I guess
[08:27] {esemde} thats what i was thinkin......
[08:28] {Threei} NQ needs to go back to 2075 and over to make NVDA work
[08:29] {bruce} so kick nq w those army boots
[08:30] {Threei} yes sir
[08:31] {bruce} no magoo - no trout last couple days
[08:33] {dino} out wynn .48, +.45
[08:33] {Threei} wtg
[08:33] {dino} ahh
[08:34] {dino} too soon
[08:36] {bruce} stopped nvda
[08:37] {Threei} CTEL news?
[08:38] {cosmo} City Telecom Launches Second Wave Marketing Campaign Featuring Alexander Graham BELL & Kung-Fu-Fighting Ants
[08:38] {cosmo} PR Newswire (Wed 12:05am)
[08:39] {Threei} lol
[08:39] {cosmo} really!
[08:39] {dino} ccix stopped -0.25
[08:41] {Threei} XING .35 long if stays above .20
[08:41] {Threei} if triggers from here, stop .24
[08:42] {dino} hl l tbsi .33
[08:42] {dino} stop .80
[08:44] {dino} l hl wynn .90
[08:44] {dino} stop .46
[08:50] {Threei} RIMM aiming for 115
[08:50] {dino} out wynn .60, +.70
[08:51] {dino} out tbsi .93, +.60
[08:51] {Threei} nice series
[08:51] {dino} easy button smack
[08:51] {dino} :)
[08:52] {Threei} sheesh CTEL
[08:53] {Threei} Alexander Graham Bell eh
[08:53] {cosmo} he's an icon
[08:53] {cosmo} thry help
[08:53] {Threei} and obviusly martial art master
[08:54] {cosmo} well, you could say all these wars are his fault, i guess
[08:56] {Threei} RIMM long here
[08:56] {Threei} smaaal shares
[08:56] {Threei} as close to 114 as possible
[08:56] {Threei} if loses it wait for nQ to reverse
[08:56] {Threei} in
[09:00] {Threei} too early
[09:02] {esemde} CSIQ knifing through big blocks of shares
[09:02] {Threei} second try
[09:03] {bruce} same vad
[09:04] {Threei} wwow CSIQ
[09:04] {Threei} feel free to take profit weho got it
[09:05] {bruce} out rimm + 47 after .32 stop
[09:06] {Threei} good job
[09:06] {bruce} lol
[09:06] {bruce} thanks
[09:06] {bruce} nervoys playing that puppy
[09:07] {bruce} wow - back to black
[09:07] {bruce} hi judi - ou new to RT?
[09:09] {bruce} what do we call those trades vad - pullbacks?
[09:09] {bruce} propulsion plays?
[09:09] {Threei} pullback
[09:09] {bruce} k
[09:13] {esemde} ladies and gentlemen....i'm gonna leave you to it...have a great day
[09:13] {Threei} take care ese
[09:13] {esemde} see ya Vad.....
[09:13] {dino} l8r ese
[09:15] {dino} rimm l ;.80
[09:15] {bruce} bye ese
[09:16] {bruce} stop .45 or so dino?
[09:16] {dino} y'
[09:20] {bruce} rimm is showing classic volume patern you describe vad
[09:20] {bruce} dropping on declines
[09:20] {bruce} and rising on price rise
[09:25] {dino} out rimm .20, +.40
[09:25] {bruce} nice dino
[09:25] {bruce} I should have used bigger stop on my first entry
[09:25] {dino} bruce stop it itm, so you get something, if you sare still long
[09:25] {dino} ok
[09:26] {bruce} k see your pooint about bigger sops dino
[09:27] {bruce} would think way to go is to set hard stop - fairly wide - but we willing to exit trade before stop is hit if trade gives sign not likelyu to work using your style
[09:29] {dino} y, you get a feel after awhile, but also, when up .40, move stop so you lock in at least half of the .40, don't give it all back
[09:29] {bruce} yes - no point letting profits slip away
[09:29] {dino} give that man a prize
[09:29] {bruce} I like .40 trailing idea
[09:30] {dino} vads' $100 street theory
[09:30] {Threei} lol
[09:33] {bruce} break time
[09:33] {bruce} see you guys in a bit
[09:33] {Threei} take care bruce
[09:34] {bruce} keep that cat in line vad
[09:34] {Threei} jeez CSIQ
[09:37] {dino} mpel
[09:37] {Roman} MPEL spike
[09:37] {Roman} buy sell short
[09:47] {dino} bit of a pullback
[09:55] {dino} hl l dwsn .00
[10:01] {dino} out .31, +.31
[10:09] {admin} vad..guy ordered both mpp and scalping coures
[10:09] {admin} but I don't have any mpps
[10:10] {admin} oops
[10:10] {admin} sorry :)
[10:20] {Threei} ORCL
[10:20] {Threei} hmm... maybe worth a scalp off this selloff
[10:22] {Threei} .44 stop
[10:22] {dino} brb
[10:27] {dino} noec
[10:29] {Threei} out XING
[10:29] {dino} risky l hl .04, stop lod
[10:29] {Threei} +.20
[10:31] {hawkfan4} took xing too, thx vad
[10:31] {Threei} nice patience hawk
[10:31] {Threei} I thought everyone bailed like 5 years ago
[10:32] {hawkfan4} lol, the meds must be helping me
[10:32] {Threei} ah
[10:32] {Threei} glad to see I am not alone doing TUI
[10:32] {hawkfan4} :)
[10:34] {dino} gj
[10:37] {dino} noec stop to .24
[10:38] {dino} to .32
[10:39] {dino} out slippage, ave .28 +.24
[10:41] {dino} rinse job
[10:49] {bruce} wynn approaching lod again dino
[10:51] {dino} watching it, waiting way below
[10:51] {bruce} k
[10:57] {dino} hl l .41
[10:58] {dino} stop .97
[10:59] {Threei} RIMM short if loses 114
[10:59] {dino} stopped darn, -.44
[10:59] {dino} altho glad it did
[11:00] {Threei} out +.35
[11:01] {Threei} that was quick
[11:01] {bruce} congrats vad
[11:01] {dino} dwsn hl l .39
[11:07] {Threei} FRPT selloff
[11:09] {Chaeron} capit
[11:09] {Threei} JAVAD
[11:09] {Threei} CEO: SOLARIS DEAL FIRST OF MANY SUCH AGREEMENTS WITH DELL - WIRE CITES INTERVIEW
[11:09] {dino} missed it
[11:20] {Threei} CHINESE CENTRAL BANK OFFICIAL: CHINA IS VERY FIRM ON POLICY OF KEEPING THE US DOLLAR AS ITS MAIN RESERVE CURRENCY - WIRE HEADLINE- official is speaking in Washington
[11:21] {dino} indeed, as long as we don't let ours float
[11:21] {cosmo} it floats on oil
[11:22] {dino} lol
[11:24] {dino} uaua
[11:28] {Threei} EBAY EVACUATES ONE BUILDING AS BOMB SQUAD INVESTIGATES SUSPICIOUS PACKAGE - WIRE HEADLINE
[11:37] {Threei} UAUA lost its mind?
[11:37] {dino} merger talk
[11:37] {Threei} UNITED AND DELTA ARE IN TALKS ON A POSSIBLE COMBINATION - WIRE HEADLINE CITING SOURCES
[11:37] {Threei} - Talks include conditions that would keep United name and Chicago headquarters, want to get something done before a new administration gets in and so they get the clock ticking on federal regulatory approval - official
[11:37] {dino} w/delta
[11:38] {dino} but, yeah, it has lost its' mind
[11:38] {Threei} scalped 21 cent short
[11:38] {Threei} covered too quickly
[11:38] {Threei} but heck... :)
[11:39] {dino} could go anywhere
[11:39] {Threei} and in a hurry
[11:39] {cosmo} hmm...Delnited
[11:39] {dino} deltaU
[11:40] {cosmo} deltau co.
[11:40] {Threei} even JBLU moved 15 cents off that, lol
[11:41] {Threei} DALs move is much more modest
[11:41] {Threei} NYSE vs NASDAQ?
[11:46] {bruce} stopped drys reversal attempt
[11:46] {bruce} -88 c 50 c slippage
[11:47] {bruce} geesh
[11:47] {Threei} yikes
[11:49] {bruce} calling it a day guys
[11:49] {bruce} 5 losing days in row so far
[11:49] {Threei} bruce... you start most of them in black
[11:49] {Threei} and say you gotta stop for the day
[11:49] {Threei} then continue trading
[11:49] {bruce} varies
[11:50] {bruce} but bettr success in am
[11:50] {bruce} started red today
[11:52] {dino} hang in there bruce
[11:52] {bruce} trying dino
[11:54] {Threei} one thing is for sure bruce... stay the helkl away from killers like DRYS
[11:56] {bruce} my stop got executed at dead botom
[11:56] {bruce} tryng o learn dinos reversal palys
[11:57] {Threei} you can do it on less volatile and thin movers
[11:57] {bruce} undrstnad slippage can be bad at times
[11:57] {bruce} that was really outrageous
[11:57] {bruce} didn
[11:57] {bruce} t espect that
[11:58] {Threei} spread jumps to 30 cents and more
[11:58] {Threei} levels have 100 shares
[11:58] {bruce} yes - really nailed me
[11:58] {bruce} then recovered
[11:58] {bruce} damn
[11:58] {bruce} discouraged vad
[11:59] {bruce} keep trying but jut not making it
[11:59] {bruce} anyone
[11:59] {Threei} you are not doing what you intended to
[11:59] {bruce} see you all in am
[11:59] {Threei} no plan
[11:59] {Threei} jumping from one idea to another
[11:59] {Threei} it won't work
[12:00] {dino} keep it simple bruce. take care
[12:00] {dino} back in 10
[12:20] {dino} wynn wacked today
[12:21] {Threei} ALLI
[12:22] {Threei} no news that I see
[12:24] {dino} rimm l hl .50
[12:26] {Threei} wasn't LULU supposed to drop dead
[12:27] {dino} not working out -.35
[12:29] {dino} have to size down rimm
[12:33] {Threei} meanwhile XING nears high
[12:35] {Threei} RIMM is easier on a short side today
[12:35] {dino} yeah, strange
[12:36] {dino} lods
[12:37] {Threei} 13 trades on it today
[12:37] {Threei} 10/3
[12:40] {Threei} 7 short, 6 long
[12:40] {dino} gj
[12:41] {Threei} didn't fgind guts to short this drop
[12:42] {Threei} too bad
[12:42] {dino} rimm just got killed
[12:43] {dino} 3 bucks in about 5 minutes
[12:43] {dino} tempted to buy som for a swing
[12:43] {dino} still think 120 for friday
[12:49] {Threei} psycho market
[12:50] {dino} yeah
[12:51] {dino} \pretty much done for the day.
[12:51] {Threei} want one last scalp RIMM
[12:52] {dino} man falling fast
[12:52] {Threei} in .19 l
[12:53] {Threei} out .60
[12:53] {dino} sweet
[12:53] {dino} wow down 102 dow
[12:53] {dino} just lost 150 pts in 30 mins.
[12:54] {Threei} one of rare cases when I was able to post RIMM practically real time
[12:58] {dino} wynn l .05
[12:59] {dino} out .30, +.25
[13:01] {Threei} thank tyou all
[13:01] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrfow
[13:02] {dino} take care all, good day
[13:02] {dptl} have a good evening all

November 13, 2007

Session Start: Tue Nov 13 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Tue Nov 13 00:00:00 2007

[05:06] {Threei} DIVX
[05:06] {Threei} TECHNOLOGY TO BE ADDED TO PLAYSTATION 3- To date, over 100 million DivX Certified products have been shipped into the market, and it is anticipated PS3 will significantly expand that number. {SNE}
[05:24] {bruce} morning rt
[05:25] {Threei} morning bruce
[05:25] {bruce} vadster
[05:26] {bruce} more must have games for kids
[05:26] {bruce} that'll be sure winner
[05:29] {Threei} I guess we know now why DIVX continued climbing last few days
[05:39] {bruce} lol
[05:39] {bruce} setting up my "if I were smarter chart this am vad
[05:42] {Threei} just don't tell me I need to re-read that book please
[05:43] {Threei} I siccessfully forget everything I wrote in 5 min after finishing it... very convinient
[05:43] {bruce} lol
[05:43] {bruce} my first entry
[05:43] {bruce} If I were smarter I'd stop trading"
[05:43] {Threei} I'll have to disagree
[05:44] {bruce} lol
[05:44] {bruce} not making that entry
[05:44] {Threei} If I were smarter I'd stop losing is my version :)
[05:44] {Threei} on serious note, do you see the usefulness of what you read?
[05:44] {bruce} going to set up trade log to for individual trades
[05:44] {bruce} already do the daily results type tracking
[05:45] {bruce} its a good summary of key points vad
[05:45] {Threei} oh, ity's more than summary
[05:46] {bruce} might be if I can figure out which trades work and which don't better I can improve results
[05:46] {Threei} it's the logic behind building your trading approach which allows you to align all the elements of it
[05:46] {bruce} I could really realtae to bo yoder
[05:47] {bruce} death by a thousand cuts
[05:47] {bruce} but hat only happened to him for a month
[05:47] {bruce} so far this month- I have exactly 20 wins
[05:48] {bruce} 20 losses
[05:48] {bruce} \and they are within 50 c of each other on average
[05:48] {Threei} how doesa it relate to last month?
[05:48] {bruce} not exactly winning formula\
[05:48] {Threei} is it improvement or not?
[05:48] {bruce} no change - those are typical vad
[05:49] {bruce} with small variation
[05:49] {bruce} win/ loss close together
[05:49] {Threei} you mean last month had the same ratio?
[05:49] {Threei} then no changes were incorporated, and you continue doing same thing
[05:49] {Threei} which hasn't proved to be successful
[05:50] {Threei} but you have all the recipes for analisys within those results
[05:51] {Threei} can you pipoint the difference between winners and losers?
[05:51] {Threei} what kind of trades were more of a winners and what more of losers?
[05:52] {bruce} win lose is worse than last month
[05:52] {Threei} nail it, and you know what to expand on and what to cut on
[05:52] {bruce} last month 101 wins and 84 losses
[05:52] {bruce} but lost overall\
[05:52] {Threei} bruce... without those analysis you just roll a dice
[05:52] {bruce} took a min to calculate cause I track weekly
[05:53] {Threei} with such win/loss ratio I would sure have had a profitable month
[05:53] {bruce} I do a lot of diferent kinds of trades
[05:54] {Threei} and?
[05:54] {Threei} among those some are prone to work better than others
[05:55] {Threei} you need to start weeding out process
[05:57] {bruce} I don't have data on diferent trades types vad
[05:58] {bruce} will start to collect
[05:58] {bruce} for example
[05:58] {bruce} a dino type reversal will obviousl y be very dif than a vad style break
[05:58] {bruce} going to strat tracking trades by type to see what works\
[05:59] {bruce} cant keep doing what I ma thats for sure
[05:59] {dptl} good morning all
[05:59] {Threei} dp :)
[05:59] {bruce} hey dp
[05:59] {bruce} morn
[06:01] {Threei} SAUDI ARAMCO CEO: WORLD WILL NOT HIT OIL OUTPUT TOP FOR LONG TIME - WIRE HEADLINE
[06:02] {cosmo} hmmm....output has topped, if i read the solars correctly
[06:03] {dino} gm all
[06:03] {Threei} dino :)
[06:04] {cosmo} ETFC pre mkt range = 3.85 - 4.10
[06:05] {bruce} hi dino- cosmo
[06:05] {bruce} hello ram
[06:05] {cosmo} bruce:)
[06:06] {dino} gm 3i, bruce, cos
[06:07] {cosmo} ESLR pre mkt high = 13 fwiw
[06:08] {cosmo} etfc
[06:09] {Threei} don't forget BIOS
[06:09] {cosmo} ETFC should hold 4 ... i think
[06:11] {Threei} Update: some of recent weakness in solar sector being attributed to rising concerns that Congress may move forward on the energy bill without including renewal of solar tax credit
[06:11] {Threei} - Reportedly, on Friday the Solar Energy Industries Association, a national trade group, stated that House Speaker Pelosi has decided to move forward on the bill without the tax credits.
[06:11] {Threei} - a Think Equity analyst said today that this chatter emerged on Thursday and may explain some of the turnabout in prices of solar stocks.
[06:16] {Threei} UPDATE: BMO ANALYST SAYS E*TRADE BANKRUPTCY IS 'HIGHLY UNLIKELY.'- analyst says the company would have to experience massive withdrawals for it to have major issues. Notes deposits have grown for the last 13 months consecutively.
[06:21] {Threei} be back in 5
[06:26] {Threei} BIOS ready to break
[06:29] {esemde} GM Raven bruce cos dino dp hawk jmb ram
[06:30] {Threei} ese :)
[06:30] {bruce} hi ese
[06:31] {dino} gm ese
[06:31] {Raven} hi ese
[06:32] {Roman} ESLR
[06:33] {Roman} watching for a bounce today
[06:34] {cosmo} ETFC tests 4
[06:34] {Threei} BIOS 9.65 long if stays above 9.50
[06:35] {dino} guess we missed bidu
[06:36] {bruce} in bios .64
[06:36] {bruce} stop to .49
[06:37] {dino} egle l .39 hl
[06:39] {dino} stop is .98
[06:39] {Roman} SOHU long small
[06:42] {Threei} MLNM
[06:42] {Threei} 14 break long
[06:42] {Threei} .84 stop
[06:48] {esemde} good morning patience....my internet was shut down ...hows your connections
[06:49] {bruce} move bios stop to .65?
[06:49] {Threei} .59
[06:51] {patience} not sure ese, just home from the royal jubilee. took the night shift looking after my dad.
[06:53] {Roman} out SOHU flat
[06:53] {bruce} mlnm stop to .90 now?
[06:53] {Threei} .89
[06:54] {esemde} patience dcc
[06:54] {dino} egle stop to b/e
[06:57] {Threei} MLNM stop to .94
[06:58] {dino} egle stop to .74
[06:58] {bruce} done - thanks vad
[06:58] {bruce} working to protect profits
[06:59] {Threei} on a verge of break yet doesn't... want to keep it as safe as possible
[06:59] {Threei} notice how it trades:
[06:59] {Threei} spikes to new high and immediately retreats
[06:59] {dino} lock 'em in bruce
[06:59] {dino} out egle .79, +.40
[06:59] {Threei} so to got out on a spike you need to have order in
[07:00] {Roman} SCON
[07:00] {Roman} counber
[07:00] {Roman} bouncer
[07:00] {Roman} yesterday had $5.70 prints
[07:00] {Threei} great... Roman has strong case of dislexia today
[07:00] {dino} today???
[07:00] {Threei} on top of my typing, that's just what we needed
[07:03] {Threei} TUES
[07:03] {cosmo} correct
[07:03] {Threei} lol
[07:03] {Threei} daily looks nice for a scalp
[07:03] {Threei} half lot .30
[07:04] {Threei} .19 stop
[07:04] {bruce} thnaks dino - workin on it
[07:05] {dino} :)
[07:11] {Roman} long SATC full size
[07:11] {Roman} 1.61
[07:12] {Threei} BIOS stop to .64
[07:16] {Threei} TUES stop to .23
[07:17] {esemde} I missed this but NSIT is making a nice move
[07:18] {Chaeron} gm all
[07:19] {dino} nsit s hl .39, stop .67
[07:19] * Threei kicks BIOS in the rear with heavy duty army boots
[07:20] {Raven} Chaeron ... finally :)
[07:20] {Threei} Chaeron :)
[07:20] {bruce} mlnm stopped
[07:25] {dino} itri
[07:27] {bruce} bios is trading on appointment
[07:28] {bruce} send note dentist with drill is coming vad
[07:28] {Threei} lol
[07:28] {Threei} like pulling a tooth eh?
[07:29] {bruce} if fear of good doesn't work
[07:29] {bruce} fear of dentist will
[07:29] {Threei} {BIOS} when I trade at 10, the joke will be on you
[07:30] {Threei} US ENERGY SEC BODMAN: LOW CRUDE INVENTORIES ARE PUSHING UP THE PRICE OF OIL
[07:30] {Threei} really?
[07:31] {Threei} ALGERIAN ENERGY MINISTER: DO NOT EXPECT OUTPUT CHANGE AT THE DECEMBER OPEC MEETING
[07:31] {bruce} that cheap eddie talking?
[07:31] {Threei} XING?
[07:31] {dino} bidz
[07:33] {Threei} and here comes the crown:
[07:33] {Threei} QATARI OIL MINISTER: OPEC CAN NOT INCREASE SUPPLY, BECAUSE THERE IS NO DEMAND TO MEET IT
[07:34] {Threei} me so confused
[07:34] {bruce} thgats cause al gore doesn't drive his suv any more
[07:34] {dino} nsit bstop to .14
[07:34] {Threei} buyers say they have low inventory and big demand... suppliers say we won't supply more because tyou don't demand it...
[07:35] {cosmo} not since i had to sell the car
[07:35] {dino} stopped .14, +.24
[07:35] {dino} .25
[07:35] {Threei} bruce, you mean he hired a driver?
[07:36] {Threei} BIOS new high, qwhole cent higher than old high
[07:37] {Threei} TUES stop to .29
[07:40] {Threei} BIOS 1:1, believe it or not
[07:40] {Threei} half out for me, scalpers feel free to take profit
[07:42] {bruce} 1/2out bios
[07:42] {Threei} US ENERGY SEC BODMAN: US ECONOMY RESILIENCE TO HIGH OIL PRICES HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY
[07:43] {Threei} what is it, message to OPEC "we can take what you can dish out"?
[07:43] {bruce} stop moved to .74 on balance
[07:43] {Threei} .69 for me
[07:44] {bruce} k - maybe setting it too tight
[07:44] {Threei} not necessary
[07:44] {Threei} both are valid
[07:44] {bruce} als always had a driver vad
[07:44] {Threei} it's more of personal choice
[07:45] {bruce} k - I like to keep them prety tight
[07:45] {bruce} need to get bigger moves though
[07:46] {bruce} figured that out from your comments this am
[07:46] {Threei} don't rush to conclusions until you run the whole process of troublesahooting
[07:46] {Threei} it's not always that obvious
[07:47] {bruce} k
[07:47] {Threei} build youir next step when you are done with whole book, I have suspicion you start changing things as you go
[07:48] {bruce} me?
[07:48] {bruce} change things as I go?
[07:48] {Threei} 'If I were smarter" method is in psychology part, not in troubleshooting part
[07:48] {bruce} sheesh
[07:48] {bruce} ofcourse I do
[07:49] {bruce} just scanned for stuff to use right away
[07:49] {Threei} US ENERGY SEC BODMAN: US ECONOMY RESILIENCE TO HIGH OIL PRICES HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARY - WIRE HEADLINE
[07:49] {Threei} - says too early to tell oil price's economic impact
[07:50] {dino} nafc hl s .39, stop .68
[07:53] {bruce} thanks dino
[07:54] {bruce} appreciate stop post with entry
[07:56] {dino} np, i'll try to remember
[07:57] {bruce} I would have set about .57
[07:57] {bruce} and thats probably not enough
[07:58] {dino} rinses w/kill you
[07:58] {bruce} iNED TO LEARN TO GET COMFORTABLE W WIDER STOPS W YOUR STYLE OF TRADES
[07:59] {bruce} oopp
[07:59] {bruce} sorry about caps
[07:59] {dino} i understand, problem w/my type is they get gappy
[07:59] {bruce} can see that
[07:59] {bruce} smaller shares
[07:59] {dino} yes
[07:59] {bruce} bigger stops
[08:00] {bruce} and big moves so wins justify risk
[08:01] {dino} i'll crack you up. a year ago my standard size was 1,000, since i changed to 500 and widened stop, i do much better
[08:02] {bruce} k
[08:02] {bruce} would imagine you had some pretty nasty drawdowns
[08:02] {dino} indeed, havard education i call it
[08:03] {dino} then i realized if i would stop being stupid, i could make some money
[08:04] {bruce} how did you realize larger stops were oing to work for you?
[08:05] {dino} reviewed my trades, lots more would've worked if i could've held on. so wider and smaller was the key. not to mention, much more relaxing way to trade
[08:06] {Threei} bruce... what dino descrobes is exactly the process of troubleshooting in the book you keep in hands
[08:06] {Threei} let me reiterate the idea of reading it thoroughly before you start apply changes
[08:07] {bruce} thanks dino
[08:07] {bruce} will do vad
[08:08] {dino} anytime, good luck
[08:13] {bruce} adjust nafc stop here dino?
[08:15] {dino} yes to b/e
[08:15] {bruce} k -that was my thought
[08:15] {bruce} we have 1 to 1 here
[08:15] {dino} or if scalping, book it
[08:16] {dino} if it gets to .00, bring stop to 1:1 and just see what happens
[08:17] {dino} to .15 stop now imo
[08:17] {dino} magoo says i'm stingy
[08:19] {dino} cov. ave .13, +.26, on that jump
[08:19] {dino} we'll key an eye on it
[08:19] {dino} brb
[08:21] {dino} rimm hod
[08:24] {Threei} remember my grim predictions for LDK?
[08:25] {Threei} have a look at it
[08:25] {Chaeron} messy
[08:28] {dino} wow
[08:30] {Roman} ESLR high
[08:32] {esemde} have a great rest of the day all.... see ya tomorrow
[08:33] {bruce} bye ses
[08:33] {bruce} ese
[08:33] {dino} cya ese
[08:33] {Threei} take care ese
[08:36] {dino} twgp spike
[08:38] {Threei} RIMM bounce candidate
[08:41] {dino} may have already missed rimm, pretty big move
[08:41] {Threei} under 109 would be nice if we get there
[08:41] {Threei} with its volatility there are plenty of bouncesa to scalp
[08:42] {dino} y
[08:44] {Threei} CLWR takeover rumors
[08:49] {bruce} rimm hit 109 vad
[08:50] {Threei} if grabbed RIMM under 109, take scalp here
[08:51] {bruce} Ididn't get it
[08:51] {bruce} no stop defiend
[08:51] {bruce} what would you have used vad?
[08:51] {bruce} prb need 50 c would think
[08:52] {Threei} it's different kind of play
[08:52] {Threei} following NQ rather than trading on its own merits
[08:53] {Threei} it hit 108.91, paused,
[08:53] {Threei} got back to 109, hesitated a little and broke it
[08:53] {Threei} that's the entry unless NQ drops hard
[08:53] {Threei} stop is NQ continuing down and ROMM making new low
[08:53] {Threei} RIMM
[08:53] {bruce} k
[08:54] {Threei} so in practicae it would look like this:
[08:54] {bruce} so using time and sales to judge momentum
[08:54] {Threei} NQ reverses, RIMM goes with it, fine,
[08:54] {bruce} and exit if it stalls while watching nq
[08:54] {Threei} NQ reverses RIMM makes new low, still holding,
[08:54] {Threei} since it's just its natuarl volatility
[08:54] {bruce} \k
[08:55] {Threei} and it's likely to bounce quickly if NQ shows strength
[08:55] {bruce} what do you call a play like that?
[08:55] {dino} chaos
[08:55] {Threei} playing the follower
[08:55] {dino} :)
[08:55] {Threei} lol
[08:55] {Threei} snake principle
[08:55] {Threei} watch where head goes to see where the tail is going to be
[08:56] {bruce} lol
[08:56] {bruce} think I will mostly avoid those plays for now
[08:56] {bruce} not much success with them
[08:57] {Threei} they can be very rewarding but they require lightening reflexes and good chunk of experience
[08:58] {bruce} they look inviting
[08:58] {bruce} quick movews
[08:58] {Threei} this is rather videogame kind of participation than normal technical trading
[08:58] {Threei} if you are good at Halo/Doom kind, shooting enemies left and right quickly...
[08:59] {bruce} yes - I know some people thaqt trade that way
[08:59] {bruce} big money
[08:59] {bruce} but takes lots of skill
[08:59] {Threei} big money usually doeas
[09:00] {Threei} (VZ) PRES CHAVEZ: PLANNING TO PROPOSE CHANGING METHOD FOR MEASURING OIL PRICES AT OPEC MEETING -WIRE HEADLINE
[09:00] {Threei} sigh
[09:03] {dino} jobs drop
[09:03] {dino} rvbd wakes up
[09:04] {bruce} bios back to hod
[09:05] {bruce} still a lay after that drop?
[09:05] {bruce} long play
[09:08] {Threei} not by me
[09:09] {bruce} k- just checking - didn't think so - figured pullback was too deeop to justify a long
[09:16] {bruce} thoughts on ldk?
[09:18] {Threei} damaged goods
[09:19] {bruce} lol k
[09:29] {bruce} taking a break
[09:29] {bruce} going to check out the pickle loaf
[09:30] {dino} lol
[09:30] {dino} chilli today
[09:33] {dino} ssrx blood
[09:41] {dino} ssrx hl l .82, stop .48
[09:44] -} *services* fdfd
[09:53] {dino} brb
[10:18] {Threei} IRAN GIVES IAEA PLANS TO MOLD URANIUM INTO WARHEADS - WIRE CITING ENVOYS- Iran fails to meet other IAEA requests on nuclear work
[10:22] {dino} just great
[10:23] {Chaeron} could be worse dino... I read it as they gave IKEA plans
[10:24] {dino} hmmm
[10:33] {Threei} slow day
[10:34] {dino} yes
[10:34] {dino} but profitable
[10:34] {Threei} yes, but nothing outstanding
[10:35] {Threei} I am spoiled be recent volatility I guess :)
[10:35] {Threei} be = by
[10:35] {dino} same, yesterday was very good
[10:45] {bruce} tiny profit for me today
[10:46] {bruce} think I'll just sit on hands though
[10:46] {bruce} nice change of trend from prior three
[10:52] {dino} crazy lately, reminds me of 1999-2000 w/these swings
[10:59] {Threei} OPEC SEC GENERAL: GROUP IS NOT HAPPY WITH HIGH PRICES, TO DISCUSS PRICES AND PRODUCTION AT DEC MEETING- reiterates belief there is plenty of oil in market
[11:00] {Threei} *OCT MONTHLY BUDGET STATEMENT: -$55.6 V -$59BE- prior reading was -$49.3B
[11:03] {dino} ssrx stop to .01
[11:05] {dino} out ssrx .00, +.18
[11:05] {dino} rinse
[11:18] {Threei} JCOM dino
[11:24] {Threei} NVDA short .56, .61 stop
[11:25] {dino} hmm
[11:26] {dino} egle l .89
[11:27] {dino} tbsi rockin'
[11:31] {dino} egle stop is .69 fwiw
[11:38] {bruce} wynn dino
[11:41] {dino} missed it
[11:42] {bruce} yup
[11:42] {bruce} could see it settinhg up- but I cant read tops
[11:44] {Threei} RIMM
[11:44] {dino} egle stop to .99 don't like it
[11:44] {Threei} long from here on fisrt sign of NQ reversal to upside
[11:45] {Threei} finger on a trigger
[11:46] {Threei} in
[11:46] {dino} asei drop
[11:47] {Threei} stop under .30
[11:48] {Threei} no speedy follow through, don't like it
[11:49] {Threei} out
[11:51] {Threei} nice shakeout
[11:52] {bruce} yes
[11:52] {bruce} tough play
[11:53] {dino} asei l hl .35
[11:53] {dino} stop .98
[11:54] {bruce} k thanks dino
[11:55] {dino} :)
[11:55] {dino} my entry sucked
[11:57] {bruce} i like nvda short here
[11:57] {dino} eclp
[11:58] {dino} nvda always gives me trouble
[11:59] {bruce} in .47 stop .59
[11:59] {bruce} will see if it workws
[12:00] {dino} egle stopped +.10
[12:00] {Threei} SEPT PENDING HOME SALES: +0.2% V -2.0%E
[12:01] {dino} eclp continues down
[12:02] {dino} back in 10
[12:03] {bruce} k
[12:04] {Threei} NQ +71
[12:04] {Threei} mama mia
[12:04] {Threei} as usual, this is the toughest kind of days to find a play
[12:04] {bruce} stopped nvda
[12:11] {dino} same here vad, the gap open and continue up are my toughest
[12:11] {Threei} yeah
[12:11] {Threei} and you know wnhat the most amazing thing is?
[12:11] {dino} chaos is moneymaker day
[12:11] {Threei} I make much more on big down days than I do on big up - yet most of plays are LONG
[12:12] {dino} same, cause i think capits on downs, euphoria on ups
[12:12] {dino} i'm pretty much a contrarian
[12:12] {Threei} remember I said yesterday, 11 trades on RIMM, 9 wins 2 stops?
[12:12] {dino} y
[12:12] {Threei} those 2 stops were both shorts
[12:12] {dino} lol
[12:12] {Threei} 9 wins were all longs
[12:12] {Threei} and that was big down day
[12:13] {dino} i was 3 for 4 on it, all long
[12:14] {Threei} whatever... I long as grew out of attempts to disect everything to every why... I accept things as they are and exploit them best I can even if I have no clue why they are what they are :)
[12:15] {Threei} there are enough academics to write tons of books explaining me why it's impossible to make money trading... I'll leave explanations to them
[12:16] {Threei} so far, no single losing day in Nov
[12:17] {dino} same, 2 down in oct
[12:18] {Threei} lemme look
[12:18] {dino} thats the key, no downs
[12:18] {Threei} you outdid me
[12:18] {Threei} 4 down days in Oct
[12:18] {Threei} but the worst of them is -180
[12:19] {dino} although, i am wrong, was down 85$ on nov 2
[12:19] {Threei} 3 others are less then 100 in minus
[12:19] {Threei} and I remember the -180 one - I started it with -700 thanks to my cat
[12:19] {dino} again, thats the key, took me awhile to realize a down cannot be bigger than an up
[12:19] {Threei} and spent a day digging out of a hole :)
[12:20] {bruce} geesh - so far 3 wins 4 loses this month
[12:21] {Threei} frikin thing stepped on a sound wire connecting main monitor with comouter and disconnected it,
[12:21] {Threei} I sent buy order for something evry volatile
[12:21] {Threei} no sound of order being filled,
[12:21] {Threei} I think I miss it,
[12:21] {Threei} switch to other stocks,
[12:22] {dino} i actually have alot of $200-400 days but not many down days, thats the difference
[12:22] {Threei} when I notice my P/L changes even though it shouldn't when I have no position, I am down 700 bucks lol
[12:22] {bruce} that was tough vad - down by accident
[12:22] {Threei} s**t happens
[12:24] {Threei} XMSR
[12:24] {Threei} SHAREHOLDERS APPROVE SIRI MERGER
[12:24] {Threei} I just shrug and start working on it, bruce :)
[12:24] {Threei} it is what it is
[12:26] {dino} exactly
[12:27] {dino} realistically, nothing matters its how you react
[12:27] {dino} asei stop to .65
[12:27] {Threei} yeah... the day it's proven that crying helps profiting from market I will learn to cry
[12:27] {dino} call me that day
[12:28] {Threei} if I may... one book I regard highly on this
[12:29] {Threei} 7 habits of the most effective people
[12:29] {dino} stopped asei +.30
[12:29] {Threei} there are things fully and totally out of our control
[12:29] {dino} 6/6 but all small hits, although just shy of daily
[12:29] {Threei} hurricanes... earthquakes... market moves
[12:30] {Threei} learn to form right mental attitude to deal with those
[12:30] {Threei} There are things that are in our immediate control
[12:30] {Threei} learn to manage them
[12:31] {Threei} and there are things that can be somewhat controlled through intermediary
[12:31] {Threei} by influencing other people
[12:31] {Threei} learn what factors matter and how to manage them
[12:32] {Threei} I hope esteemed Cohen will forgive me for quick and dirty overview
[12:32] {dino} get "millionaire traders", hits close to home on a couple of those traders
[12:32] {Threei} I can't read trading books anymore dino
[12:33] {dino} i understand, screws you up
[12:33] {Threei} mental block I guess, for the last 3 years at least
[12:33] {Threei} probably more
[12:33] {dino} first half of way of the turtles was pretty good too
[12:34] {Threei} Stephen King is fine with me
[12:35] {dino} lol
[12:35] {dino} best part of "trading in the zone" for me was; "anything can happen"
[12:35] {Threei} that one is very good
[12:36] {Threei} Zen in the market is very short and good
[12:37] {dino} rimm hod
[12:41] {Threei} scalped of 112
[12:42] {dino} was thinking of it, but chickened out
[12:45] {Threei} +81 NQ
[12:46] {Threei} a bit unreal
[12:48] {Threei} this second time I chickened out
[12:48] {Threei} so you must have gottent it
[12:49] {dino} no. pretty much done for the day
[12:49] {dino} gj tho
[12:50] {dino} will look at it tomorrow
[12:50] {dino} 10 pts up, may pull back
[12:51] {bruce} calling it a day folks
[12:51] {bruce} take care all
[12:51] {bruce} se you in am
[12:51] {Threei} take care bruce
[12:52] {Threei} thankl you all, have a good evening
[12:52] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[12:53] {dino} me too, thanks all

November 12, 2007

Session Start: Mon Nov 12 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Mon Nov 12 00:00:00 2007

[05:46] {bruce} morning rt
[05:48] {Threei} Good morning
[05:50] {hawkfan4} morning vad, all
[05:50] {Threei} hawk :)
[05:50] {bruce} hi vad
[05:50] {Threei} bruce :)
[05:50] {bruce} hi hawk
[05:50] {Threei} NQ daily looks quite spectacular doesn't it
[05:50] {Threei} 200 points in 3 days
[05:51] {hawkfan4} fairly impressive
[05:52] {Threei} supports at 2150 and 2100 got cut through as if they were never there
[05:53] {Threei} Sierra Leone joined Negiria and Ivory Coast today in noble desire to grant me a whole lot of money
[05:54] {bruce} wow
[05:54] {bruce} lucky you vad
[05:54] {Threei} if nothing esle, my geography knowledge will expnad greatly thanks to all those kind people
[05:54] {Threei} ummm... but nothing can be done about my typing it seems... damaged to the point of no return
[05:55] {bruce} wolf in sheeps clothing more like
[05:56] {bruce} odd start to christmas rally so far
[05:56] {Threei} it came early this year :)
[05:56] {bruce} markets keep rising durig traditional "slow" summer peiod
[05:57] {bruce} then drop during fall traditional expansion phase
[05:57] {bruce} maybe thats it
[05:57] {bruce} tit was moved up 6 months
[05:58] {Threei} eternal Who Moved My Cheese
[05:58] {bruce} to nigeria looks like
[05:59] {dptl} good morning all
[06:00] {Threei} dp :)
[06:00] {esemde} good morning team
[06:00] {Threei} ese :)
[06:00] {Threei} GORX
[06:00] {Threei} RECEIVES FDA APPROVAL TO MANUFACTURE AND DISTRIBUTE CARPROFEN- Commonly marketed by Pfizer as Rimadyl, Carprofen is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) that is used by veterinarians for the relief of pain and inflammation associated with osteoarthritis in dogs.
[06:03] {Threei} wierdo
[06:03] {Threei} went to 4.50 earlier, now print at 3.01?
[06:05] {Threei} OPWV MICROSOFT TO ACQUIRE OPENWAVE'S MUSICWAVE SA UNIT
[06:06] {Threei} GEOI REPORTS Q3 $0.10, R$8.6M
[06:08] {cosmo} DISH?
[06:08] {Threei} 00:04am [DISH] CitiGroup Cuts DISH to Hold from Buy
[06:09] {cosmo} hmm...k....thx
[06:09] {bruce} morning dp, ese cosmo
[06:10] {esemde} bruce
[06:10] {cosmo} "
[06:10] {Threei} there was complicated to digest piece of news on 11/09 cos
[06:10] {Threei} Communications Corp Reports Q3 $0.44 v $0.43e; R $2.79 v $2.81Be; To spin off tech and hardware business as IPO
[06:10] {Threei} -Formally announces spinoff of technology business and certain infrastructure assets as a seperate public company.
[06:10] {Threei} -The spin-off assets would include, among other things, our digital set-top box business and certain satellites, uplink and satellite transmission assets, real estate and other assets and related liabilities not considered core to our consumer business, DISH Network. In addition, a
[06:11] {Threei} In addition, as part of the spin-off ECC intends to contribute approximately $1.4B of cash and marketable and non-marketable investment securities to EHC. Final terms and timing of the spin-off have not yet been determined.
[06:11] {Threei} Guides stating "Looking ahead it may not be possible to reduce (subscriber turnover) without significantly increasing our spending on customer retention."
[06:12] {magoo} morning
[06:12] {Threei} magoo :)
[06:12] {bruce} hi magoo
[06:13] {cosmo} SDTH pre mkt high = 8.25 fwiw
[06:14] {dino} gm all
[06:14] {bruce} hi dino
[06:15] {dino} bruce :)
[06:16] {Threei} dino :)
[06:16] {dino} 3i:)
[06:19] {Threei} metals are down, oil is down, dollar is up... I take it inflation is defeated?
[06:20] {Threei} forever
[06:23] {Threei} HEARING GOLDMAN SACHS (HONG KONG) MAKING POSIVE COMMENTS ON MPEL- raises estimates and places it on conviction buy list
[06:24] {dino} drys 3/1 split
[06:25] {esemde} ETFC....anyone got news on etrade
[06:25] {cosmo} OPWV
[06:26] {Roman} ETFC E*TRADE: Loweiring 4Q EPS on higher CDO losses - Lehman (8.59 ) -Update-
[06:27] {Roman} ETFC E*TRADE: Loweiring 4Q EPS on higher CDO losses - Lehman (8.59 ) -Update-
[06:27] {esemde} tks
[06:28] {cosmo} OPWV: Microsoft says in talks to buy Musiwave
[06:28] {cosmo} at Reuters (Mon 9:21am)
[06:28] {cosmo} ... from OPWV...
[06:28] {cosmo} 3.69 hod so far
[06:29] {dino} rimm to 110 strike
[06:34] {Roman} DYII Dynacq Healthcare reports Aug quarter ended EPS of $0.22 vs. $0.08 YoY; revs increased 8% from a year ago to $10.1 mln (6.59 +0.25)
[06:37] {judi} need 3 or 4 premarket gainers and loosers?
[06:37] {esemde} NQ / S&P selling seems to have slowed Vad....maybe....any thoughts
[06:37] {dino} hl l rimm .50
[06:37] {patience} ese, think vad lost power because of high winds
[06:38] {esemde} it's blowing pretty hard right here for sure patience
[06:39] {dptl} same in Vancouver
[06:40] {dino} out rimm 112.55, +2.04
[06:40] {esemde} dp... patience...what are the wind speeds..have you heard
[06:40] {dino} wow way too soon
[06:41] {patience} very nice though dino
[06:41] {dino} ty patience
[06:41] {patience} haven't looked ese, enough to know i washed the car yesterday and i'm sure its plastered with oak leaves now
[06:42] {esemde} i can see my front lawn.....it was raked....
[06:43] {dino} 112.25 l rimm
[06:44] {dino} out 113, +.75
[06:48] {dino} l hl rimm .30
[06:50] {dino} stopped -.50
[06:53] {Roman} EGLE bouncing on daily
[06:53] {Roman} ENER kinda strong
[06:55] {Roman} WM
[06:55] {Roman} long small
[06:55] {Roman} 21.02
[06:57] {Roman} PAAS slow bouncer
[07:01] {Roman} stopped WM
[07:01] {Roman} -.12
[07:09] {Roman} market seting up for another drop
[07:15] {Roman} HOKU short watch
[07:36] {esemde} Chinese stocks seems to be bottoming out....anyone thinking that...
[07:38] {Roman} ESLR
[07:38] {Roman} short setup
[07:38] {Roman} off 13.10 small
[07:41] {cosmo} SDTH hod = 8.06 fwiw
[07:41] {cosmo} needs to hold 7.70
[07:43] {esemde} my daily highs window is going nuts....
[07:44] {esemde} market turnaround per chance....for christmas
[07:45] {cosmo} watching santa claus lane ...just in case
[07:45] {dino} lol
[07:46] {esemde} definately!~
[07:49] {cosmo} SDTH hod = 7.97 ...it now seems
[07:50] {cosmo} ...post open
[08:13] {dino} avtr, but thin
[08:39] {esemde} I tried to call Vad at home Patience...but i guess his phone must be out also
[08:50] {Roman} must be a serious storm?
[08:52] {bruce} he's on way to nigeria folks
[08:52] {Chaeron} Niagra or Nigeria?
[08:53] {bruce} nigeria
[08:53] {bruce} then ivory coast
[08:53] {bruce} pick up his winnings
[08:53] {Threei} hey guys
[08:53] {Chaeron} :P
[08:54] {bruce} wow
[08:54] {patience} thought you were down at the dock vad....
[08:54] {bruce} speak of the devil
[08:54] {Threei} lol, I wish
[08:54] {bruce} you calling from the plane vad?
[08:54] {Threei} [11:53] {Threei} lol, I wish
[08:54] {bruce} I just told them you were enroute to nigeria
[08:54] {magoo} hi vad
[08:54] {Threei} serious power outage
[08:54] {bruce} we've missed you
[08:55] {bruce} even dinos going light on his trading
[08:55] {Threei} did I miss something significant?
[08:55] {Chaeron} just you not being here is significant
[08:55] {Threei} ah thank you
[08:55] {Chaeron} sorry you missed it tho
[08:56] {Threei} lol
[09:00] {dino} jrjc drop
[09:01] {Threei} DIVX
[09:01] {Threei} 1.10 long with stop under 10
[09:02] {magoo} HUH?
[09:02] {Threei} grrr
[09:02] {Threei} 18.10 long with stop under 18
[09:03] {esemde} tried to call Vad.....see if you needed anything but i guess thephones goes out as well...
[09:03] {Threei} thank you
[09:04] {Threei} sometimes it works during outage, sometimes doesn't
[09:04] {esemde} thats odd
[09:04] {Threei} depends on whether Shaw backup is affected
[09:05] {esemde} I thought patience and I were going to be in the same boat over here by the water
[09:05] {Threei} yeah, I phoned bc hydro from my cell,
[09:05] {Threei} message said 0ver 85,000 customers are without power and new reports continue coming
[09:06] {Threei} so sit tight and wait
[09:06] {esemde} THANKS FOR THAT....
[09:06] {Threei} I thought I would be without power for couple days after that message lol
[09:06] {esemde} at least with the new gas stove well have hot meals
[09:07] {Threei} ahha
[09:07] {esemde} you'd be using your barbecue
[09:07] {Threei} nah, I will go to your place
[09:07] {esemde} done....
[09:07] {Threei} :)
[09:08] {Threei} come on DIVX, move
[09:15] {Threei} DIVX 1:1, half out, scalpers feel free to take profit
[09:16] {Threei} judi, looks dcc please
[09:23] {Threei} what's with solars?
[09:24] {magoo} major study release vads
[09:24] {Threei} Sun is not shining anymore according to it?
[09:25] {magoo} discovered rthat a solar eclispe has negative affects upon solar energy
[09:26] {Threei} UPDATE: SOME OF RECENT WEAKNESS IN SOLAR SECTOR BEING ATTRIBUTED TO RISING CONCERNS THAT CONGRESS MAY MOVE FORWARD ON THE ENERGY BILL WITHOUT INCLUDING RENEWAL OF SOLAR TAX CREDIT
[09:26] {Threei} - a Think Equity analyst said today that this chatter emerged on Thursday and may explain some of the turnabout in prices of solar stocks.{ESLR
[09:26] {Threei} but I like your version better magoo
[09:28] {Threei} DIVX balance stop .09
[09:29] {Threei} wow... e-trade collapse threat?
[09:36] {Threei} out DIVX in full
[09:36] {Threei} +.30
[09:36] {Threei} +.40, sorry'
[09:36] {magoo} nice vad, ty
[09:37] {Threei} welcome
[09:37] {Threei} good to be back
[09:37] {Threei} (even though I am ignored as usual)
[09:38] {bruce} lol - nice trade vad
[09:38] {Threei} ty
[09:38] {Threei} you took it?
[09:38] {bruce} no - missed due to urgent appointment w bladder
[09:41] {bruce} jpm - any read?
[09:42] {hawkfan4} DIVX nice vad, thx
[09:42] {Threei} no confidence... intraday looks like all day continuation but daily opbjects
[09:42] {Threei} welcome hawk
[09:43] {bruce} K - thanks
[09:50] {bruce} apol dino
[09:54] {dino} nah
[09:56] {dino} need bottom on rimm
[09:59] {bruce} hard to read rimm
[09:59] {bruce} double bottom here but looks like it wants to go lower still
[10:05] {Threei} NQ dropped about 15 ;points, DIVX stays at support
[10:05] {Threei} quite possible not done yet
[10:06] {bruce} you think divx may be a pullback entry at these levels vad?
[10:08] {Threei} it may... what I'd like to see for entry is,
[10:08] {bruce} aapl dino
[10:08] {Threei} stabil,izing with clear support and resistance,
[10:09] {Threei} then break of this resistance with NQ reversal
[10:09] {bruce} k - thanks vad
[10:10] {dino} risky, sm l rimm 104.75
[10:12] {dino} drys death
[10:14] {bruce} you caught rimm within 15 c of bottom
[10:14] {bruce} amazing read dino
[10:21] {dino} just lucky bro
[10:21] {bruce} lool - don't think so
[10:21] {bruce} congrats
[10:25] {dino} :)
[10:26] {bruce} drys l about here dino?
[10:28] {dino} stop to .98
[10:29] {dino} to .29
[10:29] {dino} stopped 106.29, +1.54
[10:31] {bruce} stopped drys
[10:31] {dino} they're messing w/drys lately
[10:31] {bruce} I entered - its to be expected
[10:32] {dino} 1/3 of its price gone in a week
[10:32] {bruce} 24c slippage - that sucks
[10:33] {bruce} crox drooped nearly by 1/2 in a week after showing nice uptrend
[10:33] {bruce} lots of long term traders got squashed there I bet
[10:34] {dino} oh yeah
[10:34] {dino} rimm, grmn too
[10:36] {bruce} yeah - the big boys
[10:36] {bruce} perfect for the kind of plays you do though dino
[10:38] {dino} yes
[10:39] {dino} fmcn drop
[10:41] {magoo} aapl bounce vad?
[10:42] {Threei} feels more like short to me
[10:42] {Threei} with NQ continuation down of course
[10:46] {bruce} \nice christmaqs rally oday
[10:49] {dino} fmcn l .00
[10:50] {bruce} stop to .50 dino?
[10:50] {dino} out .44, +.44
[10:50] {Threei} magoo... from what I observe, AAPL leads NQ today a l.ittle, instead of lagging
[10:51] {Threei} can't use NQ as indicator for it
[10:51] {dino} opps, yeah bruce, but out already
[10:51] {magoo} u got a read on rimmmvasd
[10:51] {bruce} yeah - see that
[10:51] {bruce} didn't get chance to enter
[10:51] {bruce} glad it worked ok
[10:53] {Threei} RIMM is short on bounce
[10:53] {Threei} no wau to pinpoint exact entry
[10:54] {Threei} moves 50 cents while I type
[10:54] {bruce} 104.75 or so vad?
[10:55] {bruce} w swtop to 105.25?
[10:55] {Threei} can't tell like this bruce, depends on what NQ does at the time
[10:55] {Threei} this is highly liquid situation, changes on a dime
[10:55] {bruce} k
[10:57] {Threei} bounce feel in the air
[11:00] {Threei} NQ break of 2020 should set bounce in motion
[11:04] {Threei} long RIMM
[11:04] {Threei} got .31, stiop under 103
[11:05] {Threei} out half
[11:05] {Threei} +.69
[11:06] {Threei} out flat
[11:06] {bruce} well done vad
[11:06] {Threei} a bit greedy ain't I
[11:07] {bruce} too fast for me on that one
[11:07] {bruce} don't think so
[11:07] {bruce} could have moved much higher if bounce took
[11:09] {Threei} anyone missed wisdom from above?
[11:09] {dino} cpla\
[11:10] {Threei} US ASSISTANT ENERGY SECRETARY HARBERT: US DOES NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT OIL PRICE WILL AFFECT THE ECONOMY- Says OPEC is 'very concerned' about Crude prices, US has received no commitment from OPEC to raise output
[11:12] {dino} inwk
[11:13] {dino} too fast
[11:18] {bruce} taking a break
[11:21] {Threei} magoo
[11:21] {Threei} can play RIMM off AAPL
[11:22] {Threei} AAPL leads by window large enough for scalp entry
[11:22] {dino} cpla hl l .69
[11:22] {dino} wide
[11:22] {magoo} watchin vad
[11:24] {Threei} see? :)
[11:24] {Threei} perfect scalp with nice delay
[11:25] {Threei} short time now
[11:25] {Threei} there... quick 40 cents
[11:27] {Threei} missed long this time
[11:29] {Threei} ugh
[11:29] {Threei} gotta be quick on this type
[11:30] {magoo} long or short here?
[11:30] {Threei} RIMM gave nice entry point, I just fell into coma at the moment
[11:30] {Threei} watching
[11:30] {Threei} long still
[11:32] {Threei} AAPL losing it now
[11:32] {Threei} and here follows RIMM
[11:33] {Threei} observe their tie, get a feel for the delay and according size of the moves, don't count on my running commentary, it happens too quick
[11:49] {esemde} Signing off...see you all tomorrow
[11:49] {Threei} take care ese
[11:49] {esemde} see ya Vad ...hopefully we have electricity tomorrow.
[11:54] {Threei} fess up time for magoo... how many litres of adrenalin during last 20minutes?
[11:56] {Threei} I am dropping this pair for now, delay window has closed up
[11:56] {bruce} say Vadster -
[11:56] {bruce} you think you could find something with a bit less adrenaline for me and mags to close off day?
[11:57] {Threei} if it comes along
[11:57] {bruce} lol
[11:57] {bruce} figures
[11:57] {Threei} as one of my favorite authors says,
[11:57] {Threei} There will be water if God wills it
[11:57] {cosmo} DIVX again?
[11:58] {Threei} quite possible, holding rather well
[11:58] {bruce} I can only handle so many adrenaline plays a day
[11:59] {Threei} .50 is DIVX support
[11:59] {cosmo} should hold 18.55 ... needs to hold .50
[11:59] {Threei} worth a try
[12:01] {dino} cpla stopped .35, -.34
[12:01] {dino} back in 10
[12:02] {Threei} this market drop is a perfect test for DIVX
[12:03] {bruce} are you waiting for a .76 entry in divx vad?
[12:03] {Threei} no, a bit too far
[12:03] {Threei} just want to see market reversing
[12:03] {Threei} want it as close to .50 as possible
[12:04] {bruce} k
[12:05] {Threei} in .65
[12:05] {Threei} .49 stop
[12:05] {Threei} it just won't pullback any
[12:05] {Threei} and upticks with each NQ bounce
[12:21] {Threei} stop to .59
[12:26] {Threei} grrr
[12:27] {Threei} was ready for final step to 1:1 when NQ dumped again
[12:27] {bruce} geesh
[12:28] {bruce} kicks divx
[12:28] {bruce} sorry vad
[12:28] {bruce} jinxed you
[12:29] {dino} hl l tbsi .50
[12:29] {Threei} 7 cents... I can live with it
[12:32] {Threei} watchRIMM for short if NQ dives off 2010
[12:32] {Threei} got .99
[12:33] {Threei} 103.21 stop
[12:36] {dino} out tbsi .98, +.48
[12:36] {Threei} out flat
[12:36] {Threei} too unclear
[12:38] {bruce} quick reflexes vad
[12:38] {bruce} I took the stop
[12:39] {Threei} I trade it in and out in a very quick sequences bruce
[12:39] {Threei} just can't post them
[12:39] {Threei} grabbed two longs since then
[12:40] {Threei} missed this short... too bad
[12:41] {bruce} you were right about short
[12:41] {bruce} stop was just a bit too tight
[12:41] {Threei} well... two ways to play them
[12:41] {Threei} tighter stops, reenter on new signal
[12:42] {Threei} or wider stop aand go for bugger moves, dino's way
[12:42] {bruce} yes
[12:42] {Threei} bigger
[12:42] {bruce} trying to learn how to do those plays
[12:42] {bruce} they really move fast
[12:45] {Threei} interested in BIOS, gotta keep it on watch tomorrow
[12:47] {dino} pulp baby
[12:47] {bruce} lol -
[12:48] {bruce} bugger moves
[12:48] {Threei} lol
[12:48] {bruce} ype that qbout describes them vad
[12:48] {Threei} no kidding
[12:48] {bruce} how many trades you do in average day dino?
[12:50] {dino} 10\
[12:50] {Threei} EU'S JUNCKER: TIME HAS COME FOR FINANCE MINISTERS TO STOP PUBLIC COMMENTS ON FX - WIRE HEADLINE
[12:50] {dino} 10 rounds
[12:50] {Threei} but inquiring minds want to know?
[12:51] {bruce} k- was guessing it was closer to 20
[12:51] {bruce} just curious
[12:52] {Threei} 9.53 is long tyrigger for BIOS for tomorrow
[12:52] {dino} depends on the type day, fridays more because its scalp day, today only 8
[12:52] {dino} no set rule
[12:53] {Threei} 16 for me today... a bit high considering that I missed almost half of the day
[12:53] {Threei} RIMM mesmerized me
[12:53] {dino} ditto
[12:53] {dino} i was waiting at 99.60
[12:54] {Threei} sheesh
[12:54] {bruce} lots of money to be made if a person can learn to trade plays like that
[12:54] {Threei} 11 trades on RIMM
[12:54] {Threei} 9 wins, 2 losses
[12:54] {bruce} I just can't read them fast enough
[12:54] {bruce} and usually get mailed when ai try
[12:54] {magoo} i lost my ass on rimm
[12:54] {dino} 4 for me, 1 loss
[12:54] {dino} you missed my first, 2 points
[12:55] {Threei} I wouldn't be able to hold that long anyway
[12:55] {Threei} :)
[12:55] {bruce} nice stats gusy
[12:55] {bruce} I hae 1 win 4 losses
[12:56] {dino} watch them take it to 220 by friday
[12:56] {dino} 120 i mean
[12:56] {dino} wow bidu 303
[12:57] {Threei} BIDU is close to serious support
[12:57] {dino} going under 300 imo
[12:57] {dino} 125 points down +/-
[12:57] {dino} that has to hurt
[12:58] {cosmo} DIVX strong close
[12:58] {Threei} it's interesting on a quick dive under 300,
[12:58] {Threei} cefrtainly buy at 250,
[12:58] {Threei} and sell your kids and buy all you can at 200
[12:59] {dino} already sold the kids
[12:59] {dino} lol
[12:59] {Threei} make more
[12:59] {Threei} and sell
[12:59] {dino} nooooooo
[12:59] {Threei} BIDU at 200 will be worth it
[13:00] {bruce} thats what people said about internet stocks vad
[13:00] {bruce} can't possibly kee;p dropping
[13:00] {Threei} :)
[13:00] {Threei} OK guys, forecast is good, storm goes away... shouldn't be any troubles nearest time
[13:00] {Threei} thank you all, have a good evening
[13:00] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[13:00] {dino} calling it a day, thx all
[13:01] {bruce} see you all in am
[13:01] {bruce} take care all

November 9, 2007

Session Start: Fri Nov 09 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Fri Nov 09 00:00:00 2007

[05:17] {magoo} morn RT
[05:31] {bruce} morning magoo
[05:31] {bruce} morning all
[05:31] {hawkfan4} morning mags, all
[05:34] {magoo} morn hawk, bruce
[05:34] {magoo} today gonna be a wild ride
[05:34] {cosmo} MDRX
[05:35] {bruce} volatile yesterday?
[05:35] {cosmo} MDRXmisses...warns too
[05:35] {magoo} cos, news on JASO? killing it
[05:36] {cosmo} hmm
[05:36] {cosmo} [audio] JA SOLAR HOLDINGS CO LTD Earnings Conference Call (happening now)
[05:36] {cosmo} JA Solar 3rd-quarter profit rises, raises outlook
[05:36] {cosmo} at Reuters (Fri 8:07am)
[05:37] {magoo} 75 start of premkt
[05:37] {cosmo} profits?
[05:38] {Threei} Good morning
[05:38] {Threei} [JASO] JA Solar Holdings Reports Q3 $0.47 v $0.36e; R $113.4M v $99.7Me
[05:38] {Threei} -Raises FY07 production outlook to 120MW from 110Mw, Sees Revenues $320-330M v $312.5Me
[05:38] {Threei} -Expects to reach production capacity of 425MW/year by FYE 2008 (Current capacity is approx 175MW)
[05:39] {magoo} morn vad
[05:39] {Threei} hi mags
[05:39] {Threei} don't know what they said in that call on JASO
[05:40] {Threei} but selling seems horribly overdsone
[05:40] {magoo} bouncer
[05:40] {magoo} 75 premkt open
[05:45] {bruce} morn vad
[05:46] {Threei} bruce :)
[05:49] {Threei} missed one of the best days yesterday bruce
[05:49] {magoo} nice vad :)
[05:50] {Threei} I think dino made his yearly goal in one day :)
[05:50] {dptl} good morning all
[05:50] {Threei} dp :)
[05:51] {bruce} great
[05:51] {bruce} figured that would happen vad
[05:51] {Threei} new wave of selling JASO
[05:51] {Threei} what the
[05:53] {Threei} it trades as if they were all drunk in that conference call, and instead of answring questions were just giggling and flipping birds
[05:54] {magoo} must be reason posteed somewhere
[05:54] {magoo} this is nuts
[05:55] {bruce} hello dp
[05:55] {Threei} nothing is posted, it's something that is being said in cc
[05:55] {magoo} aren't u listening to the call he he?
[05:55] {Threei} lol
[05:55] {Threei} sure... that's exactly my idea of Friday morning
[05:56] {Threei} look at that
[05:56] {Threei} bid it at $1
[05:56] {Threei} at such rate you should get filled in 10 minutes
[05:56] {Threei} be back in 5
[05:57] {esemde} morning all....
[05:58] {bruce} hello ese
[05:58] {esemde} mornin bruce
[06:02] {Threei} ese :)
[06:05] {Threei} should pull back a bit now, then continue recovery
[06:06] {Threei} if something was misinterpreted, recovery will be big
[06:12] {Threei} pullback feels done
[06:12] {esemde} i need to be fired by CITI group...29mil severance..corner office..car/driver for 5 yrs.benefits....what a drap not being liked
[06:12] {magoo} solar correct?
[06:12] {Threei} lol ese
[06:12] {magoo} chineses solar vad?
[06:12] {Threei} probably
[06:13] {Threei} grabbed a little 56.30
[06:13] {magoo} your commebnt yesterday, remember?
[06:13] {Threei} out 57.90
[06:14] {Threei} about china+solar? :)
[06:14] {Threei} yeah... surefire recipe :)
[06:15] {cosmo} AMAT 18.90 pre mkt high fwiw
[06:15] {Threei} AMAT has something to do with solars too if I am not mistaken
[06:16] {Raven} AMAT analyst upgrade
[06:16] {Raven} and ... yes ... solar
[06:16] {cosmo} they buy out the smaller ones at some point...right?
[06:16] {Raven} (but don't tell) :)
[06:17] {Raven} AMAT - $19.15 pre high here cosmoski
[06:17] {esemde} hush hush...
[06:17] {cosmo} ah...thx
[06:18] {cosmo} needs to hold .65 imo
[06:18] {Raven} gap down to $18.07
[06:19] {cosmo} when?
[06:19] {Raven} yesterday high 18.07
[06:19] {cosmo} k
[06:23] {bruce} leap
[06:23] {Threei} LEAP restated 2006 earnings, cut by two brokers
[06:25] {dino} gm all
[06:25] {Threei} dino :)
[06:27] {dino} :)
[06:29] {bruce} hi dino
[06:29] {bruce} hear you nailed it yesterday
[06:31] {dino} good day yes
[06:31] {bruce} congrats
[06:32] {Threei} watching OMNI
[06:33] {dino} ty
[06:35] {Threei} AMAT .25 long half lot
[06:38] {Threei} ESLR bounce candidate off 14
[06:38] {Threei} watch NQ for guidance
[06:39] {bruce} amat invalid for now?
[06:39] {Threei} rather bounce play
[06:40] {Threei} in ESLR
[06:40] {magoo} missed
[06:40] {magoo} fast
[06:41] {dino} risky hl l rimm 117.50
[06:41] {esemde} bounce play Vad
[06:41] {Threei} half out .25
[06:42] {Threei} stop 13.99
[06:42] {Threei} missed AMAT entry 'cause of ESLR :)
[06:42] {bruce} missed them both
[06:42] {Threei} ESLR gave second chance
[06:43] {magoo} yeah
[06:43] {bruce} what waws initial stop eslr - looks about 13.65?
[06:43] {magoo} thought it was goin lower
[06:43] {Threei} nah, wouldn't let it go that low
[06:44] {bruce} k- that was first support I saw
[06:44] {magoo} i went on orig call
[06:44] {Threei} [09:38] {Threei} watch NQ for guidance
[06:45] {Threei} NQ continued dropping at the moment, ESLR recovered when NQ started bounce
[06:45] {Threei} out in full .50
[06:46] {magoo} nice boss:)
[06:46] {Threei} not delighted by AMAT here
[06:46] {Threei} waiting for it to form something more clear
[06:48] {Threei} wow
[06:48] {dino} out rimm 119.00 +1.50
[06:48] {dino} too soon
[06:48] {Threei} this NQ spike made my exit look dismall :)
[06:48] {Threei} welcome to the club dino
[06:48] {Threei} but this is friday
[06:48] {Threei} let's take our scalps and be happy
[06:49] {esemde} still........good work dino
[06:49] {Threei} anything can happen today
[06:49] {dino} thx guys
[06:49] {esemde} and probably will
[06:49] {Threei} I will be equally unsirprized to see +100 or -100 day for NQ
[06:49] {magoo} l jaso .49
[06:50] {magoo} out 1 [point
[06:50] {magoo} fast
[06:50] {magoo} too fast to post..uin 62.49..out 63.35
[06:51] {Threei} AMAT... range is being established so far
[06:51] {Threei} 19 - 19.25
[06:53] {magoo} dow down 169
[06:55] {dino} lod's dow
[06:55] {dino} new lows
[06:55] {magoo} its friday..could get ugly
[06:55] {magoo} bidu is literally down 90 points in 3 sessions

Session Start: Fri Nov 09 07:06:45 2007
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[07:08] {magoo} i believe jaso will go green...but risky
[07:08] {magoo} and needs mkt
[07:09] {magoo} like 100 shares on a pullbk
[07:11] {dino} midd
[07:13] {dino} missed it
[07:13] {dino} nvda rinsed
[07:14] {cosmo} AMAT tests .25 soon
[07:14] {cosmo} i think
[07:14] {Threei} it's valid as long as it stays above 19
[07:19] {esemde} I think the market just might end up being up by end of the day......hmmmmm
[07:19] {dino} hl s midd .99
[07:19] {Threei} easy
[07:19] {magoo} not on friday imho
[07:20] {cosmo} not on sunday, i thot
[07:20] {magoo} ok that it cos lol
[07:20] * magoo slaps cosmo around a bit with a large trout
[07:20] {Roman} WM is a short small
[07:21] {Roman} 20.25
[07:21] {esemde} i think it's gonna set itself up for the famous..."Christmas Rally"
[07:23] {esemde} just a feeling i have ....
[07:23] {dino} cov midd .54, +.45
[07:24] {dino} lucky
[07:24] {dino} never wanted it forgot order
[07:25] {dino} round 2 nvda l .75
[07:26] {dino} nvda tear down that wall
[07:26] {esemde} go getum dino.....
[07:26] {esemde} nice setup
[07:26] {magoo} PCLN retarded
[07:26] {dino} ,80 a problem
[07:27] {magoo} blows my mind how these stox won't fall off 20 points
[07:27] {magoo} just buy pcln today anywhere any price..it will never ever pullbk again
[07:27] {dino} as magoo kicks his computer
[07:28] {Threei} nice spike NVDA
[07:28] {Threei} gotta be quick on it today
[07:29] {magoo} bruce..i betr u could stop PCLN
[07:30] {cosmo} amat
[07:30] {bruce} you may be right mags
[07:34] {esemde} PCLN nice move on that one...
[07:34] {Threei} AMAT looks better and better
[07:35] {cosmo} looks ready
[07:35] {dino} out nvda .58, -.17
[07:36] {magoo} amat full lot vad?
[07:36] {Roman} cover WM +.38
[07:36] {Threei} if 25 cents stop fits to full lot
[07:36] {Threei} liquidity wise it's fine
[07:36] {magoo} liq was what i meant
[07:37] {dino} petd
[07:37] {Threei} reported earnings earlier
[07:37] {Threei} come on AMAT
[07:38] {Threei} you know you want it
[07:38] {Threei} yes
[07:38] {cosmo} hmm...you should do that more
[07:38] {Threei} lol
[07:38] {cosmo} :)
[07:41] {magoo} say it again vad
[07:42] {Threei} XMSR
[07:43] {Threei} HEARING STRENGTH ATTRIBUTED TO FTC INVESTIGATION CLOSED WITHOUT ANY ACTION CONCERNING CUSTOMER SERVICES PRACTICES
[07:44] {dino} risky s petd .37
[07:46] {dino} cov petd .71, +.66
[07:46] {dino} is anyone having fun w/this?
[07:46] {dino} c'mon
[07:47] {Threei} watch AAPL for bounce
[07:47] {bruce} amat stop to .15 now vad?
[07:47] {Threei} too tight... .09
[07:48] {bruce} k
[07:50] {dino} petd watch again
[07:52] {dino} rimm lod
[07:54] {dino} petd risky hl s .58
[07:56] {dino} bstop to .29
[07:56] {dino} cov slippage .39, +.19
[08:02] {Threei} getting inetrested in ESLR again
[08:03] {dino} petd s hl .02
[08:03] {magoo} mkts still falling vad
[08:03] {Threei} yes
[08:04] {Threei} in
[08:04] {Threei} .65 stop
[08:06] {magoo} nice
[08:07] {Threei} easy 1:1, but I got a bit greedy probaly
[08:08] {Threei} anyway, stop to .75
[08:08] {Threei} risk is minimal
[08:12] {bruce} stopped amat
[08:13] {bruce} 3 losses in row - done for day again andf back to red for month
[08:13] {bruce} rats
[08:13] {dino} ouch
[08:13] {Threei} hmm}
[08:14] {Threei} how can 3 trades overshoot several winning days?
[08:14] {bruce} 3 winning days
[08:14] {bruce} 2 losing
[08:15] {bruce} most winning days I only win by 1 or two trades
[08:15] {bruce} so 3 losses in row cancels more than one day
[08:16] {Threei} I am pretty sure our calls are better than that bruce... something in your selection process
[08:16] {Threei} out 3/4 ESLR .12
[08:17] {Threei} +.27
[08:18] {Threei} .89 stop for the last portion, no lose territory
[08:19] {dino} petd stopped -.42
[08:21] {Roman} LEAP
[08:22] {Roman} new low
[08:22] {Roman} was at $35 in premarket tho
[08:26] {Threei} out ESLR balance .20
[08:30] {magoo} nice vad
[08:31] {magoo} still in AMAT?
[08:31] {Threei} nope
[08:32] {magoo} thats why i ask :)
[08:32] {magoo} was away from desk
[08:33] {magoo} was it stopped vad or profit?
[08:33] {Threei} stopped
[08:33] {magoo} ty
[08:35] {Threei} fresh IPO, APEI
[08:35] {dino} l hl rimm 115.00
[08:38] {Threei} 32 break long small shares if stays above 31.50
[08:39] {magoo} prob not marginable
[08:40] {magoo} gotta staw away
[08:40] {dino} out flat
[08:40] {magoo} thanx for alerting IPO
[08:46] {dino} rimm l hl .71
[08:47] {magoo} DINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[08:47] {magoo} vad ESLR
[08:48] {Threei} I;ll stay away here
[08:48] {magoo} me too thren'
[08:55] {Threei} KLAC looks interesting
[08:55] {Threei} .20 break
[08:55] {Threei} half lot, a bit on a thin side
[08:55] {dino} out rimm .,15, +.44
[08:56] {esemde} PSPT...1min chart setup up against highs
[08:59] {Threei} BIOS is totally oblivious to the market
[08:59] {esemde} i'll say....
[08:59] {Threei} I skipped long entry on 52 high break earlier, considering it high chance for a fake breakout during such selloffs
[09:00] {Threei} who knew it cares not :)
[09:18] {bruce} I'm going to call it a week guys
[09:18] {Threei} take care bruce
[09:18] {bruce} good luck w your trading
[09:18] {Roman} SWHC
[09:18] {Roman} take care bruce
[09:18] {bruce} see you monday
[09:19] {Roman} SWHC mentioned on CNBC
[09:21] {dino} rimm l .50
[09:22] {magoo} going for KLAC here vad?
[09:23] {esemde} seems like at the slightest up turn in the markets stocks just seems to jump...at least on my screens anyway....almost like there just looking for an excuse
[09:23] {Threei} yes mags
[09:23] {esemde} ie MPEL
[09:25] {esemde} MPEL whoa.....
[09:26] {dino} out .74, +.24
[09:37] {Threei} feel free to take KLAC profit
[09:38] {Threei} 30 cents is 30 cents
[09:38] {Threei} (and not 20 or 40)
[09:39] {hawkfan4} thx vad, nice one
[09:39] {dino} rimm l .33
[09:43] {dino} bad entry cut it-.30
[10:20] {Threei} EBAY
[10:20] {Threei} long here half lot
[10:20] {Threei} .54 stop
[10:32] {dino} midd waking
[10:33] {Threei} market loses ground a bit
[10:33] {Threei} stop to .59
[10:47] {esemde} have a good long weekend everyone...... see ya next week
[10:47] {Threei} take care ese
[10:47] {esemde} see ya Vad
[10:47] {dptl} long weekend?
[10:48] {esemde} remembrance day in Canada
[10:48] {esemde} are markets open in the US on monday?
[10:48] {dptl} o...i see
[10:59] {patience} vad, cnd markets are open monday, settlement date deferred. banks themselves closed.
[11:00] {Threei} us markets don't even know there is a holiday in canada... :)
[11:03] {Chaeron} US markets are open - not bonds tho
[11:15] {cosmo} MDRX
[11:15] {dino} austin powers on "e"
[11:17] {dino} rimm l off of 116
[11:18] {dino} no trigger
[11:21] {dino} ok
[11:21] {magoo} i have an appt
[11:22] {magoo} see u all monday
[11:22] {magoo} ty vad
[11:22] {Threei} take care magoo
[11:27] {dino} out 117 +1.00
[11:30] {Chaeron} dang nice dino
[11:31] {dino} thx
[11:31] {dino} aa6 going to hold/
[11:31] {dino} 116
[11:31] {dino} nope
[11:34] {dino} proj
[11:35] {dino} ptry
[11:43] {dino} gonna go green
[11:44] {cosmo} damn pace car
[11:45] {cosmo} MDRX hod = 18.56 fwiw
[11:46] {dino} ocnf hl l .36
[11:51] {dino} wow midd
[11:56] {Threei} I doubt I would push anything more today guys
[11:57] {Threei} let's have a rest and relax over weekend,
[11:57] {Threei} that was a good week, quite intense
[11:57] {dino} indeed sir, indeed
[11:57] {Threei} fantastic job on your part dino
[11:58] {Threei} have a good weekend all, see you on Monday
[11:58] {dino} ty, got lucky w/market moves
[11:58] {dptl} have a good weekend:)
[11:58] {dino} u2 dp, vad
[11:59] {dino} still have to get rid of ocnf, stop is .09
[12:37] {dino} ocnf stopped .31, -.05. calling it a day/week. thx all

November 8, 2007

Session Start: Thu Nov 08 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Thu Nov 08 00:00:00 2007

[05:08] {magoo} morn rt
[05:29] {Threei} Good morning
[05:29] {Threei} wow ESLR
[05:29] {magoo} asti too
[05:30] {magoo} morn boss:)
[05:30] {Threei} hi magoo :)
[05:30] {cosmo} another day... another solar panel.... sigh
[05:30] {Threei} DSTI trying
[05:30] {Threei} *INITIAL JOBLESS CLAIMS: 317K V 325KE; CONTINUING CLAIMS: 2.579M V 2.560ME
[05:31] {magoo} any other news today scheduled?
[05:31] {Threei} lol cos
[05:31] {cosmo} :)
[05:31] {Threei} CSUN
[05:31] {Threei} CSIQ
[05:31] {Threei} everything solar
[05:32] {magoo} FSLR + 50
[05:32] {Threei} FSLR doesn't count
[05:32] {Threei} it's not from this universe
[05:32] {cosmo} but... its first
[05:33] {Threei} 08:01am [VG] Reports Q3 -$0.10 v -$0.13e; R $211 v $210Me
[05:33] {magoo} vad, don't u think theres a short there somewhere...?
[05:33] {Threei} I'd think this one is heavily loaded with shorts
[05:33] {Threei} I do
[05:34] {magoo} even goog and bidu do not hold a post mkt gap of 50
[05:34] {cosmo} ALTI not happy
[05:34] {Threei} 07:13am [ALTI] Reports Q3 -$0.09 v $0.08e; R $3.4 v $2.5Me
[05:34] {cosmo} hmm
[05:39] {Threei} FSLR guidance looks serious
[05:39] {Threei} [FSLR] First Solar Inc. Guides 2007 Revenues $480-$485M v $413Me, operating margins 24%-25% - Conf Call
[05:39] {Threei} - guides 2008 R$760-800M v $701Me
[05:40] {cosmo} oil should still be an important lubricant ... in the long run
[05:42] {cosmo} BRLC
[05:45] {dptl} good morning all
[05:45] {Threei} dp :)
[05:49] {magoo} HANS news vad? pounded
[05:50] {cosmo} [audio] Hansen Natural Corporation Third Quarter 2007 Financial Results (live today at 2:30 pm ET)
[05:51] {cosmo} Hansen Natural misses by $0.02, misses on revs
[05:51] {cosmo} Briefing.com (Thu 6:18am)
[05:54] {Threei} 05:30am [HANS] Reports Q3 $0.46 v $0.49e, R$247.2M v $258.4Me
[05:57] {cosmo} NTWK pre mkt high = 4.71 fwiw
[05:57] {Threei} I'd try to short it here mags
[05:57] {Threei} careful and small
[05:58] {magoo} ok did @ 218.51
[05:58] {Threei} FSLR that was
[05:58] {Threei} right
[05:58] {Threei} can take several tries... you know how those huge movers are
[05:58] {cosmo} PBW
[05:59] {magoo} yep...appreciate if u keep reading it
[05:59] {magoo} 221 high premkt
[05:59] {Threei} ECB'S TRICHET: SAYS HAS SENT EXPILICIT MESSAGE TO A NUMBER OF EMERGING ASIAN NATIONS, INCLUDING CHINA
[06:00] {esemde} cos dp hawk jm magoo ram Vad...good morning
[06:00] {Threei} ese :)
[06:01] {esemde} am still long KONG XFML from yesterday... small lots... didn't hit my stop loss
[06:01] {Threei} I'd stop it if goes above 219.50
[06:02] {magoo} yeah
[06:02] {magoo} may continue u[p
[06:02] {magoo} up
[06:02] {Threei} loss of 218 should set it
[06:02] {Threei} just lost
[06:02] {magoo} but really..in your xperience..u think it can go straight up all day 50 plus??
[06:03] {Threei} all day, no... but overall, squeeze is very possible on it
[06:03] {Threei} DSTI is trying to break
[06:04] {Threei} this is kind of those "too obvious" things mags
[06:04] {magoo} yeah...easiest path would be short.....so up up and away right
[06:05] {Threei} XFML looks not bad ese
[06:05] {Threei} KONG, nothing happens for now, can't tell
[06:06] {Threei} DSTI feels like 6 is in cards
[06:06] {esemde} XFML does look good....were just gonna wait this out and see what happens
[06:07] {Threei} squeeze is on mags
[06:07] {magoo} yes out
[06:08] {magoo} new high
[06:09] {Threei} yeah, this is widowmaker
[06:10] {magoo} look for another short scalp....do not know where..but look ok?
[06:11] {Threei} for now it looks easier to scalp on a long side, lol
[06:17] {Roman} CTDC looks interesting
[06:17] {Roman} with solars
[06:17] {Roman} watching small cap SATC
[06:17] {esemde} FSLR.....whoaaaaa up $52.00
[06:18] {Threei} got a read on DSTI Roman?
[06:18] {dino} gm all
[06:18] {Threei} dino :)
[06:18] {Roman} not yet vad
[06:18] {Roman} buy low sell high
[06:18] {magoo} no work when short roman
[06:19] {Roman} BCON
[06:19] {Roman} could be a player
[06:19] {Roman} on swing front
[06:19] {Roman} probably over $2.3 today
[06:20] {esemde} would love to see KONG go $4.00 like it did 26/09 on that break out.....i'm in .03 cents cheaper
[06:21] {Threei} different situation ese...
[06:21] {Threei} on 26/9 it was breakout
[06:21] {Threei} now it's just a technical recovery
[06:21] {esemde} has to be some bounce here????
[06:22] {Threei} it filled the gap, bouncing now
[06:22] {Threei} yes to bounce
[06:22] {Threei} resounding no to $4 run :)
[06:23] {esemde} in your your experience Vad....how much of a bounce do you think it could do......tough to say i'm sure
[06:23] {esemde} 1/2 the gap maybe?
[06:23] {Threei} if it catches favorable wind...
[06:24] {Threei} see, you ate talking swing here
[06:24] {Threei} which is not really my territory
[06:24] {Threei} ate = are
[06:25] {esemde} yes definately was the plan yesterday.....
[06:27] {esemde} stop was at/is 4.70 just above original first move
[06:28] {esemde} on 20/09
[06:28] {Threei} looks right to me
[06:31] {Threei} 5.70 break long DSTI if stays above 5.60
[06:32] {magoo} vcad FSLR?
[06:32] {magoo} bounce?
[06:32] {Threei} yes
[06:32] {Threei} it's just jumping 1.50 in time that takes me to type yes
[06:36] {Threei} ESLR
[06:36] {Threei} .80 break long if holding .60
[06:37] {dino} rate
[06:37] {Threei} don't lose sight of DSTI
[06:37] {Threei} holding rather well
[06:40] {Threei} ESLR half out at least
[06:41] {Threei} out in full
[06:43] {magoo} is that a solar?
[06:43] {Threei} yes sir
[06:44] {magoo} out .46 TY
[06:45] {magoo} eats .50 vad a good sign
[06:45] {Threei} DSTI takes .85, 6 should be within easy reach
[06:46] {Threei} 5.55 stop for now
[06:49] {Threei} CTDC sizeable pullback
[06:49] {esemde} nice one on ESLR vad
[06:49] {Threei} grab half lot here with .19 stop
[06:51] {cosmo} HLTH holding
[06:51] {cosmo} .74 hod
[06:52] {magoo} eslr bounce vad?
[06:52] {Threei} I would feel safer closer to 15.50
[06:53] {magoo} too late in
[06:53] {Threei} lol
[06:53] {Threei} you shooot then ask names?
[06:54] {magoo} no, but give u 60 secs to rrespond
[06:54] {Threei} hety, I need to pretend I am thinking
[06:54] {magoo} fslr bounce or short?
[06:55] {magoo} hurry lol'
[06:55] {Threei} go away :)
[06:55] {Threei} I have no idea on FSLR
[06:55] {Threei} its natural volatility excludes any reliable read within sane risk tolerance
[06:56] {Threei} first strength from here ESLR
[06:56] {magoo} well i went long here 210? u sauyying i insane?
[06:56] {Threei} you dare deny that?
[06:57] {Threei} in ESLR
[06:57] {Threei} got half lot .40
[06:57] {Threei} stop under .30
[06:57] {Threei} not giving it much room
[06:57] {Threei} out.64
[06:58] {Threei} DSTI stop to .590
[06:58] {Threei} getting tired of it
[06:59] {magoo} that one never worx
[07:00] {Threei} CTDC 1:1 for scalpers
[07:01] {Threei} FED'S BERNANKE: FOMC EXPECTS GROWTH TO SLOW IN Q1; HOUSING SLUMP 'LIKELY TO INTENSIFY'
[07:01] {Threei} he is testifying before economic committee today
[07:02] {Threei} CTDC, anyone scalped this animal off .31?
[07:02] {magoo} hands full here w/fslr
[07:02] {Threei} come on guys, it was no brainer
[07:03] {hawkfan4} got ctdc vad, thx
[07:03] {Threei} :)
[07:04] {Threei} out DSTI
[07:04] {Threei} stupid stock
[07:05] {magoo} i wish u guys wwould forget it
[07:05] {Threei} {DSTI} YOU stupid
[07:05] {magoo} everyday roman brings it up..everyday i lose on it
[07:05] {Roman} nice
[07:06] {magoo} IT BLOWS as far as others out there
[07:06] {Threei} hmmm
[07:06] {Threei} it worked like charm on 5 break
[07:06] {magoo} WHEN?
[07:06] {Threei} just two days ago?
[07:07] {magoo} yeah, and its been called last 10 days
[07:08] {ramvfin2003} scon beat up a bit
[07:08] {Threei} I'll count today after market close
[07:10] {Threei} BEN:
[07:10] {Threei} - Says Fed will act as needed on economy, inflation
[07:10] {Threei} - Says Subprime ARM Delinquencies Likely To Rise
[07:10] {Threei} - Says business, household spending to slow
[07:10] {Threei} - Says weakened value of dollar another inflation risk
[07:10] {Threei} - Says oil price to restrain economic growth
[07:10] {Threei} - Says recent data suggests 'resilient' economy
[07:10] {Threei} - Says 450,000 subprime ARMs per quarter to reset through 2008
[07:12] {Threei} wow CTDC
[07:12] {Threei} didn't expect such strength
[07:16] {Roman} VDSI possible bouncer
[07:16] {magoo} ESLR sneaking up on us vad?
[07:17] {Threei} yup
[07:17] {magoo} .51 trigger
[07:18] {Roman} long WM
[07:18] {Roman} 20.17 , 1/3 size
[07:20] {Roman} DIVX
[07:20] {Roman} explodable
[07:20] {Roman} long BLDP
[07:20] {Roman} 1/3
[07:21] {Roman} long DIVX
[07:21] {Roman} 16.40
[07:21] {Roman} 1/3
[07:22] {magoo} long ESLR here, stop .99
[07:22] {magoo} 17 comith
[07:22] {magoo} and if i wrong. vad and roman can beat upo on magoo
[07:22] {Threei} hmmm... does it mean we can't if you are right??
[07:23] {dino} rate l break of .50, w/stop at .98
[07:23] {magoo} probably breathe .54 -.64 area
[07:30] {magoo} out fslr here .99
[07:30] {Threei} *EIA NATURAL GAS INVENTORIES: 36 BCF VS. +30 TO +35 BCF EXPECTED RANGE
[07:30] {magoo} + whateever, like 7 points
[07:31] {magoo} [09:57] {magoo} well i went long here 210? u sauyying i insane?
[07:31] {magoo} [09:57] {Threei} you dare deny that?
[07:31] {magoo} [09:57] {Threei} in
[07:31] {Threei} SQNM break of 10.05 long
[07:31] {magoo} 10:03] {magoo} hands full here w/fslr
[07:31] {Threei} 9.94 stop
[07:32] {dino} stopped rate .50, b/e
[07:33] {Threei} CSIQ .85 break long
[07:35] {dino} hl l wynn .30
[07:35] {magoo} 1/2 out ESLR if w/me
[07:36] {magoo} .61
[07:37] {Threei} scalpers offer CSIQ at 13
[07:38] {dino} lmia
[07:38] {Threei} who kept half feel free to take profit whereevr on CSIQ
[07:39] {Chaeron} gm all
[07:40] {Threei} chaeron :)
[07:40] {dino} stopped wynn -.40
[07:42] {dino} wynn rinse
[07:42] {magoo} nice CSIQ vad
[07:42] {Threei} ty
[07:42] {Threei} but the real question is...
[07:42] {Raven} morn Mr Chaeron
[07:42] {magoo} nice and easy
[07:42] {Threei} did you play?
[07:42] {magoo} no stress
[07:42] {magoo} yup
[07:42] {magoo} u try my eslr call?
[07:43] {Threei} scalped three times, lol
[07:43] {magoo} nice
[07:43] {Threei} I can't hold this beast
[07:43] {Threei} trading it one leg at a time
[07:43] {magoo} pulls back HARD
[07:43] {magoo} 17 coming though
[07:45] {magoo} its actually following FSLR
[07:47] {Threei} IPO AREX
[07:47] {Threei} no idea what it's about
[07:47] {Threei} if china or solar just buy
[07:47] {Threei} if solar in china, sell your house, car, farm and kids and buy all you can
[07:48] {Chaeron} Approach Resources Inc. is an independent energy company engaged in the
[07:48] {Chaeron} exploration, development, exploitation, production and acquisition of
[07:48] {Chaeron} unconventional natural gas and oil properties onshore in the United States and
[07:48] {Chaeron} Western Canada.
[07:49] {cosmo} oil and gas are passe, i say
[07:50] {Roman} URRE
[07:50] {Roman} long 14.04
[07:50] {Roman} 1/3
[07:52] {magoo} new high FSLR
[07:53] {Roman} long SOLF
[07:54] {Threei} looks good entry point ESLR with stop under .50
[07:55] {Roman} HOKU radar
[07:55] {Roman} also solar
[07:55] {Threei} classic case FSLR eh?
[07:56] {magoo} as we discussed huh vad
[07:57] {Threei} yup
[07:57] {Threei} short looked waaay too obvious to be the way to go
[07:57] {magoo} should be a scalp short somewhere soon
[07:57] {magoo} any thoughts
[07:58] {Threei} not really
[07:58] {Threei} of course it's a short somewhere, there are just no real tools to read it
[07:58] {Threei} ESLR, take half off
[07:58] {magoo} out .95
[07:58] {magoo} 17
[07:58] {magoo} ding
[07:58] {Threei} spike over 17 for full out
[07:59] {magoo} leave me ALONE u two
[07:59] {Threei} or just take scalp
[07:59] {Threei} that was too easy money
[07:59] {Threei} don't get me wrong, I love easy money... I just get suspicious when it becomes so easy
[07:59] {Roman} JASO goin for the high
[08:00] {Roman} HOKU over 9
[08:00] {Roman} out 1/2 SOLF +.60
[08:00] {Threei} HOKU was gutsy one, worked beautifully
[08:00] {Threei} CSUN trying
[08:01] {Threei} tough read for me, see if you like it
[08:03] {Threei} full out ESLR
[08:03] {Threei} not bad for 20 cents risk
[08:03] {cosmo} BRLC
[08:03] {magoo} out bal .15 here
[08:05] {cosmo} 4.14 hod test
[08:05] {cosmo} brlc
[08:06] {magoo} just buy FSLR..it will never ever pullback ever again
[08:07] {Threei} lol
[08:07] {Threei} CSIQ explosion
[08:07] {Threei} see solar - buy solar day
[08:08] {magoo} if IF DSTI gets 6..roman feel free to slap me reapidily
[08:08] {magoo} it won't though
[08:09] {Threei} mags, look at DSTI this way
[08:09] {dino} lmia agan
[08:09] {Threei} ESLR was the same way up to some point,
[08:09] {Threei} impossible to make money on,
[08:09] {Threei} all shaekouts and fakeouts
[08:09] {Roman} out my ESLR swing from $10
[08:10] {Threei} then at some point it caught momo finally
[08:10] {Threei} and Roman called it swin early
[08:10] {dino} atls
[08:10] {Threei} swing
[08:10] {Threei} when he did, I was fairly skeptical, given ESLR's history
[08:10] {Threei} DSTI is the same way, it's a dog
[08:10] {Threei} but every dog has its day
[08:11] {Threei} so:
[08:11] {Threei} ignore early attempts on it,
[08:11] {Threei} wait for it to become a player
[08:11] {Roman} buy everything I SAY
[08:11] {Threei} become thicker, smoother
[08:11] {Roman} i got messed up on WM
[08:11] {Threei} and when it does, play it just as you played ESLR
[08:12] {Threei} I say ignore because your style is not Roman's,
[08:12] {Threei} he is patient,
[08:12] {Threei} he sits on them,
[08:12] {Threei} then capitalizes on the move when momo players come
[08:12] {Threei} you ARE the momo player
[08:12] {Threei} you need momo to appear
[08:12] {Threei} so wait
[08:12] {Threei} makes sense?
[08:13] {cosmo} so... be the momo?
[08:13] {cosmo} nah
[08:13] {Threei} cosmo, always Zen
[08:13] {cosmo} zen
[08:14] {magoo} i'm sorry vad, what u say ?
[08:14] {magoo} he he
[08:14] * Threei slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout
[08:14] {Threei} who went for CSUN, take profits as you see fit
[08:15] {magoo} no, thanx, nice perspective
[08:15] {magoo} u right
[08:15] {Roman} DSTI near $6
[08:15] {magoo} slap me IF
[08:15] {Threei} there was print at 6 Roman
[08:15] {Roman} what's the command for slap Vad
[08:15] {Threei} slap him
[08:15] {magoo} especially because..u gonna hate this
[08:16] {magoo} i reloaded .75
[08:16] {Threei} right click on the nick
[08:16] {Threei} bottom line in the menu
[08:16] {Roman} damit, it doesn't work for me
[08:16] {Threei} [11:15] {magoo} i reloaded .75 {--- what??
[08:16] {Threei} this is slappable offense
[08:16] {magoo} really did too..saw some momo
[08:17] {magoo} HE HE
[08:17] {magoo} 3k
[08:17] {Threei} 3 eh?
[08:17] {magoo} out now .99
[08:17] {Threei} roman... type /me then, and slap him 3 times
[08:17] * Roman slap
[08:18] * Roman Slaps MAGOO
[08:18] * Roman BITCH SLAPS MAGOO
[08:18] {ramvfin2003} CTDC poppon
[08:18] {Threei} rude
[08:18] {Threei} but well-deserved
[08:18] {Roman} it's a new command i discovered
[08:18] {Roman} just playing around with commands here
[08:18] {magoo} i desreved it
[08:21] {Threei} BRCM HEARING CO. RAISING GUIDANCE AT ANALYST DAY MEETING
[08:21] {cosmo} For 2 days now - there's been this dark cloud overhead...
[08:22] {cosmo} http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/hdimages/volcanocamhd.jpg
[08:22] {Roman} out remaining SOLF +1
[08:22] {Roman} out URRE
[08:22] {Roman} BLDP new high
[08:23] {Threei} BLDP is wierdo
[08:23] {Threei} they sold the very heart of the company, thing that was their claim to the future
[08:26] {Threei} there are some quite involved agreements though
[08:28] {dino} lamr
[08:31] * magoo slaps Roman around a bit with a large trout
[08:31] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[08:31] * magoo slaps Raven around a bit with a large trout
[08:31] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout
[08:31] * magoo slaps cosmo around a bit with a large trout
[08:31] * magoo slaps dino around a bit with a large trout
[08:31] * magoo slaps dptl around a bit with a large trout
[08:31] * magoo slaps esemde around a bit with a large trout
[08:31] {Roman} long FCEL full size
[08:31] * magoo slaps hawkfan4 around a bit with a large trout
[08:31] * magoo slaps jmb around a bit with a large trout
[08:32] * magoo slaps judi around a bit with a large trout
[08:32] * magoo slaps patience around a bit with a large trout
[08:32] * magoo slaps patience around a bit with a large trout
[08:32] * magoo slaps patience around a bit with a large trout
[08:32] {Threei} call paramedics someone
[08:32] * magoo slaps ramvfin2003 around a bit with a large trout
[08:33] {Threei} intriguing stock... LUNA
[08:33] {Raven} sheesh
[08:35] {dino} ouch
[08:35] {magoo} RISKY..i like FSLR short here
[08:35] {Roman} ALTI on radar
[08:35] {Roman} out DIVX +.40
[08:39] {Roman} GIGM bounce play, very risky
[08:41] {Roman} ALTI going for sqeeze or what
[08:42] {magoo} covered short FSLR +2.50 small
[08:42] {magoo} 200 sh
[08:42] {dino} wynn hl l .85
[08:44] {dino} wynnstop to .23
[08:45] {dino} out .50 +.65
[08:46] {dino} gs going to 200 stike by end next week
[08:46] {dino} strike
[08:48] {dino} comv hl l .50, stop .19
[08:58] {magoo} now FSLR time to punish the longand foolish
[08:58] {magoo} then at 2:30..reverse to run to day highs 231
[08:59] {magoo} hurt both sides this way
[09:00] {Threei} HEARING CHATTER THAT CANADIAN BANKS MAY POST LARGE WRITEDOWNS
[09:00] {dino} comv tighten stop to .36
[09:09] {dino} \comv stop to b/e
[09:10] {dino} ltre
[09:15] {Threei} BERNANKE: SUPER SIV WOULD HELP REMOVE THE RISK OF 'FIRE SALES' AND HELP SPEED VALUE RECOGNITION
[09:15] {dino} wow rimm
[09:16] {magoo} bidu hit year ghigh 429 yesterday
[09:16] {magoo} 'look now
[09:17] {dino} rimm wants 115 by the 16th
[09:18] {dino} comv stop to .60 stingy
[09:19] {Threei} ABC NEWS WEBSITE SAYS RECENTLY DECLASSIFIED MATERIAL SAYS AL-QAEDA MAY HAVE PLANS TO ATTACK SHOPPING MALLS IN CHICAGO AND LA
[09:22] {Roman} long JASO
[09:22] {Roman} 65.11
[09:29] {ramvfin2003} geez SCON
[09:29] {Threei} yeah... looks like damaged goods
[09:29] {Roman} long WM
[09:30] {Roman} trying for scalp
[09:30] {Roman} 18.60
[09:30] {ramvfin2003} dont see any news other than earnings mon after close
[09:33] {Roman} out 1/2 WM +.25
[09:37] {Threei} feels like downdrift in the market is susstainable today
[09:37] {Roman} long QQQQ
[09:37] {Roman} 51.69
[09:38] {Threei} scfor scalp roman?
[09:38] {Threei} 'cause sizeable recovery doesn't seem to be in the cards todaay
[09:38] {Roman} yes
[09:38] {magoo} sh ESLR .40
[09:41] {magoo} waiting under 16
[09:42] {Threei} good one
[09:42] {magoo} ah, cover .11
[09:42] {magoo} changed mind
[09:43] {Threei} some call it weak convictions... I call it flexibility
[09:43] {magoo} loss 16 a trigger short imho
[09:49] {Roman} out QQQQ
[09:49] {Roman} -.24
[09:49] {Roman} stopped FCEL
[09:50] {magoo} vad bidu down 45
[09:50] {Threei} don't make it sound as if it was my fault please
[09:50] {magoo} u know me...everythings your fault
[09:51] {magoo} rimm down 14
[09:52] {magoo} anyone take ESLR short off loss 16?
[09:52] {magoo} i did
[09:52] {magoo} [12:44] {magoo} loss 16 a trigger short imho
[09:52] {magoo} cover
[09:52] {magoo} .70
[09:53] {Threei} wtg
[10:01] {ramvfin2003} SCON all over the place
[10:15] {Roman} out remaining WM
[10:17] {Threei} BIDU bounce time
[10:19] {dino} l rimm 117.50
[10:22] {Threei} 5 points BIDU
[10:23] {magoo} that was gutsy
[10:23] {magoo} i dids try it
[10:23] {Threei} just so magoo can't say I ignore him
[10:24] {Threei} nice RIMM dino
[10:27] {Threei} DSTI bouncer candidate
[10:27] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[10:28] {ramvfin2003} where would u think of entering vad?
[10:28] {Threei} gosh... you don't think 85 cents selloff on $5 buck stock deserves a scalp?
[10:28] {Threei} don't chase ram
[10:29] {magoo} where u in at??
[10:29] {Threei} 5 is obvious support, there was a huge bid as 5.05
[10:29] {Threei} as close to it as possible while NQ reversed
[10:29] {Threei} but not for chasing
[10:29] {magoo} u in??
[10:29] {Threei} got 5.12
[10:29] {Threei} 5.04 stop
[10:33] {Threei} will try to get olut above .30
[10:33] {dino} ty 3i
[10:33] {Threei} you out yet dino?
[10:33] {magoo} he in
[10:34] {Threei} CEPH, NVDA and QCOM report today
[10:36] {dino} no
[10:36] {dino} it wants 125
[10:37] {dino} watch gs for key on turns
[10:40] {magoo} amazing call rimm dino
[10:41] {dino} rimm stop to 119.54
[10:44] {dino} to 120.54
[10:45] {dino} out rimm 120.54, +3.04
[10:47] {dino} :)
[10:47] {dino} brb
[10:59] {dino} l comv .81
[11:02] {dino} stop to .05
[11:03] {dino} ugh rimm, i chickened out
[11:04] {Threei} US ENERGY SEC BODMAN: ADDING OIL TO THE SPR WILL NOT SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECT THE PRICE OF OIL - WIRE HEADLINE
[11:04] {Threei} - Says current oil price suggests more supply needed from OPEC and non OPEC producers
[11:04] {Threei} - Declines to mention whether $100 oil is envitable, but is 'concerned' about the price{USO}
[11:06] {dino} at this point whats the differnce 100 or 97, big deal
[11:06] {Threei} no kidding
[11:09] {dino} comv to .09
[11:10] {dino} make it .15
[11:11] {dino} to .20
[11:12] {magoo} vad, your gut feel...rally into bell or sell?
[11:13] {Threei} rather sell... but i won't bet on any
[11:14] {dino} rally
[11:14] {dino} imo
[11:14] {dino} down one more time tho, over 200 on dow
[11:16] {dino} here it comes
[11:18] {dino} out comv w/slippage ave .15, +.34
[11:22] {Threei} hmmm
[11:22] {Threei} DIVX makes new highs, oblivious to market carnage
[11:22] {Threei} .36 long if stays above .25
[11:25] {dino} rimm hl l 119.50
[11:28] {dino} out rimm 120.54, +1.04
[11:30] {magoo} divx terrible
[11:30] {Threei} gosh...
[11:30] {Threei} 12 cents stop, what's the big deal?
[11:31] {magoo} i hit it double
[11:31] {magoo} figured you sitting quiet so long...should hit one
[11:32] {magoo} i expect too much of you...my fault
[11:33] {dino} hl l rimm 120.25
[11:34] {magoo} u know what it is vad...f'in DIVX is like DSTI too me...i think i've lost on it everytime...so i inherently hate it and get xtra pissed
[11:35] {magoo} ESLR long here
[11:35] {Threei} don't take it on me, OK?
[11:35] {Threei} you don't like the stock, don't play it
[11:35] {magoo} i know...but hey...still gonna take it out on u lol
[11:36] {Threei} as far as I can overview the day, it was way above average with all solar calls earlier
[11:36] {magoo} yes it was ...NICE work
[11:37] {Threei} if I have to double-question every call I see, I won't ever make any
[11:37] {Threei} stops are stops, part of the game
[11:37] {magoo} just make a magoo hate list
[11:37] {magoo} at top STEM
[11:40] {dino} stopped rimm -.85
[11:42] {dino} ok that was the 200 down, now up
[11:44] {dino} rimm l .50
[11:45] {dino} out rimm .75, +.25
[11:47] {Threei} ESLR .50 break long if stays above .35
[11:49] {ramvfin2003} in .50
[11:50] {Threei} no worky
[11:51] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[11:52] {ramvfin2003} worth another try vad?
[11:53] {Threei} on pullback instead of break
[11:54] {Threei} see? it's locked
[11:55] {Threei} bounces work, breakouts don't
[11:57] {dino} rimm hl l .25
[11:58] {dino} out .49 +.24
[11:58] {dino} too soon
[11:58] {dino} nyx green
[11:59] {ramvfin2003} eslr 16s?
[12:00] {Threei} if NQ continues up, why not
[12:00] {Threei} if reverses, 15 is just as likely
[12:01] {dino} comv l .54
[12:04] {dino} lol 200 down and then up 100
[12:05] {dino} see above
[12:06] {dino} 14:15
[12:06] {dino} if i could only harness this power for good
[12:07] {Threei} ram, don't oversit it
[12:07] {Threei} reversals are brutal on it today
[12:07] {ramvfin2003} out .95
[12:13] {ramvfin2003} i think if ESLR breaks 16 will run
[12:14] {Threei} closest support is .80
[12:14] {magoo} need mkt help
[12:14] {Threei} if comfortable with this stop, go with your conviction
[12:15] {ramvfin2003} ill wait for it to clear 16s offer
[12:15] {Threei} of course
[12:15] {Threei} it's clear resistance, gotta see it broken
[12:16] {magoo} it shoulfd folloe FSLR
[12:17] {Threei} now we are talking ram... you go with clean setup instead of trying to figure out which way seemingly randomly chosen stock is going to go
[12:17] {ramvfin2003} :)
[12:17] {ramvfin2003} doesnt want to break that 16
[12:17] {Threei} no play then
[12:18] {Threei} what has no trigger won't shoot
[12:18] {ramvfin2003} just trying to make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t
[12:19] {Threei} I just finished my lunch... thank you for the visual
[12:19] {Threei} broke
[12:19] {magoo} use heavy mayo ram
[12:19] {ramvfin2003} in .01
[12:20] {Threei} seller is still there but NQ looks strong
[12:20] {Threei} hopefully will overcome
[12:21] {Threei} finally... buying pressure steamrolled him
[12:21] {ramvfin2003} what u think for target vad?
[12:21] {Threei} gosh... no idea
[12:21] {Threei} not today
[12:21] {Threei} you had 20 cents stop
[12:21] {Threei} you had 1:1
[12:21] {Threei} why guess
[12:21] {dino} dow -68 whooo hoooo
[12:21] {Threei} look at this
[12:22] {ramvfin2003} got out .17
[12:22] {Threei} wtg
[12:22] {Threei} see how brutal it can be?
[12:22] {dino} nice ram
[12:22] {ramvfin2003} nuts today
[12:23] {Threei} it wasn't even movement, it was teleporting
[12:23] {Threei} beam me up scotty
[12:23] {Threei} down in this particulat case
[12:24] {Threei} load - rinse - repeat
[12:24] {dino} fun today
[12:25] {Threei} very much... and nicely above daily target
[12:26] {Threei} NASDAQ recovery much more modest vs NYSE
[12:26] {dino} -39 dow
[12:26] {dino} did my week today,
[12:27] {Threei} after being down more than 200 DOW?
[12:27] {dino} my double it this week
[12:27] {Threei} NQ is down 55 after being 100
[12:27] {dino} crazy-beautiful
[12:27] {dino} dow going green
[12:28] {dino} rimm 124.80, said 125
[12:28] {dino} bam
[12:28] {Threei} lol, see total repeat on ESLR?
[12:28] {ramvfin2003} eslr rinse again
[12:28] {ramvfin2003} buy on 16 break? lol
[12:28] {Threei} not me :)
[12:29] {Threei} I am not spoiling this day
[12:30] {dino} comv stop to .76
[12:30] {dino} yeah, no mas, just hard stop comv
[12:33] {dino} to .80
[12:35] {dino} comv stopped .84, +.30. no more trades for dino
[12:38] {Threei} I am done for today too
[12:39] {Threei} thank you all, have a good evening
[12:39] {Threei} see you tomorrow
[12:42] {magoo} ty vad
[12:42] {dino} take care 3i
[12:46] {dino} i'm outta here to, thx all. best day since summer

November 7, 2007

Session Start: Wed Nov 07 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Wed Nov 07 00:00:00 2007

[05:26] {Threei} Geron's Cell-Based Therapeutic for Spinal Cord Injury Survives and Exhibits Remyelination

[05:26] {Threei} - GRNOPC1, the company's human embryonic stem cell -based therapeutic for spinal cord injury, survives and exhibits durable and robust human remyelination in spinal cord-injured rats for at least nine months following a single injection.

[05:26] {Threei} GERN

[05:29] {magoo} morn rt

[05:30] {Threei} oh... sorry... forgetting to say hi is one of first signs, isn't it... Good morning :)

[05:32] {hawkfan4} good morning all

[05:32] {Threei} hawk :)

[05:47] {magoo} JRJC vad..news?

[05:48] {Threei} not that I see

[05:48] {hawkfan4} 08:40 JRJC China Finance Online upgraded to Buy at Brean Murray- tgt $50 (34.04 )

[05:48] {magoo} 3 1/2 points

[05:49] {magoo} dam

[05:49] {magoo} not avail

[05:49] {magoo} just went for it

[05:49] {esemde} good morning early west coast risersrisers

[05:50] {Threei} ese :)

[05:50] {patience} morning ese and rt :)

[05:50] {Threei} patience :)

[05:50] {esemde} gm patience vad magoo ram hawk

[05:50] {Threei} wwatching ESLR... grabbed half lot GERN at .30 in case it's a biggie, will dump it if loses .20

[05:51] {magoo} fwlt news bvad

[05:51] {esemde} you buy something premarket Vad

[05:52] {Threei} rarely

[05:52] {Threei} but if I am early on what seems to be an interesting news and stock hasn't moved much from close yet...

[05:56] {dptl} good morning all

[05:56] {cosmo} lets hope

[05:57] {esemde} dp cos

[05:57] {magoo} news FWLT vad?

[05:57] {cosmo} ese:)

[05:57] {cosmo} Foster Wheeler beats by $0.28, beats on revs; announces a 2-for-1 stock split

[05:57] {cosmo} Briefing.com (Wed 6:48am)

[06:01] {cosmo} ESEA

[06:01] {cosmo} tries to get back up off the floor

[06:02] {cosmo} Euroseas Ltd. Announces Pricing of Follow-on Offering of Common Stock

[06:02] {cosmo} Marketwire (Wed 8:58am)

[06:02] {cosmo} fwiw

[06:04] {magoo} ty cosmaniac

[06:04] {cosmo} :)

[06:16] {dino} gm all

[06:17] {Threei} dino :)

[06:18] {dino} dcc 3i

[06:24] {Threei} VLNC GUIDES Q3 R$4-6M - CONF CALL

[06:25] {Threei} by the price action it doesn't look like conf call goes well

[06:26] {esemde} ALTH has another lymphoma drug having successful trials

[06:26] {esemde} nobody getting sick from it so far

[06:27] {esemde} Interim response and safety analyses support continuation of Allos Therapeutics' pivotal Phase II Propel trial of PDX in patients with peripheral T-cell lymphoma

[06:27] {magoo} still in GERN vad?

[06:28] {Threei} yes

[06:28] {Threei} but not for much loger I think :)

[06:28] {Threei} out

[06:28] {esemde} ALTH...good looking daily chart

[06:28] {Threei} .17

[06:33] {Threei} ESLR is tempting long if stays above 13.80

[06:33] {Threei} I'd prefer one more pullback before a break

[06:37] {Threei} ARTG 4.60 long if stays above 4.50

[06:39] {esemde} PSPT bstop 12.56

[06:41] {cosmo} ESLR hod = 14.25

[06:41] {cosmo} gona test

[06:41] {cosmo} gonna

[06:42] {magoo} dam eslr..wanted a pullbk ..so not in

[06:42] {Threei} yeah, it's determined today

[06:43] {magoo} we keep missing the boat

[06:43] {Threei} Roman's PLUG on the move

[06:43] {dino} mbi s hl .61

[06:43] {esemde} PSPT long 12.65

[06:44] {magoo} vad, u ever considerer short scalping ESLR?

[06:44] {Threei} yes... and can never find heart for it, lol

[06:45] {Threei} oh yessss

[06:45] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE SAYS OIL PRICES ARE TOO HIGH

[06:45] {Threei} thank you powers that be for this sharing of wisdom

[06:45] {magoo} dubbya had 3 advisors for that comment, one decented

[06:46] {cosmo} another works in the kitchen

[06:46] {magoo} as an illegal too

[06:47] {Threei} ENZN

[06:47] {Threei} .30 long

[06:47] {Threei} half lot

[06:48] {Threei} stop under 10.10

[06:48] {magoo} why half? jumper?

[06:48] {Threei} sometimes, yes

[06:48] * magoo slaps Raven around a bit with a large trout

[06:49] {Roman} VLNC

[06:49] {Roman} could szeeze out shorts

[06:49] {Threei} back from dead?

[06:49] {Roman} yep

[06:49] {Roman} looking for small pullback to .42 to load some

[06:50] {esemde} PSPT looking great at the highs

[06:51] {magoo} quid scalp somewhere vad

[06:51] {magoo} QID

[06:52] {Threei} I don't have firm grip on NQ here

[06:52] {Threei} too erratic

[06:52] {esemde} OUT PSPT .02 +.37

[06:52] {Threei} FED'S MISHKIN SAYS 'BEST BET' IS THAT OIL PRICES COME DOWN

[06:52] {Threei} you first Mishkin

[06:53] {Roman} SATC playing a bit

[06:53] {Roman} in swing yesterday

[06:53] {dino} cov mbi .37, +.24

[06:55] * Raven slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout

[06:55] {Raven} {}

[06:55] {magoo} R

[06:55] {magoo} A

[06:55] {magoo} V

[06:55] {magoo} E

[06:55] {magoo} N

[06:55] {magoo} :)

[06:55] {Raven} hey there big fella

[06:56] {dino} pfgc hl s .82, stop .06

[07:00] {dino} pfgc stopped .01, -.19

[07:00] {Threei} *SEPT WHOLESALES INVENTORIES: 0.8% V 0.2%E

[07:04] {esemde} long XFML 8.25....

[07:05] {Roman} CPSL

[07:05] {Roman} long

[07:05] {cosmo} ESLR should hold 14

[07:05] {cosmo} imo

[07:06] {Roman} china plays

[07:06] {Roman} CTDC

[07:08] {dino} hl l wynn .85

[07:08] {Roman} long KONG

[07:09] {dino} out .49, +.64

[07:09] {dino} l wynn .90, hl

[07:10] {Threei} ENZN stop .14 if triggers from here

[07:12] {Roman} BHIP

[07:13] {dino} out weynn .13, +.23

[07:14] {magoo} l enzn boss

[07:14] {Threei} CBAK?

[07:14] {Roman} looking good with china

[07:15] {Threei} BEAS

[07:15] {Threei} TICKS HIGHER ON RUMOR IBM MAY BE INTERESTED IN MAKING A BID

[07:15] {Threei} lol

[07:16] {Roman} what other china plays you guys played RCH?

[07:16] {Threei} BAMM half lot long .50

[07:16] {Threei} stop under .35

[07:17] {Threei} that one is tough Roman

[07:17] {Threei} typical AMEX

[07:17] {magoo} lulu china?

[07:17] {Threei} no

[07:17] {patience} vancouver

[07:17] {dino} wspi s hol .29, stop .53

[07:18] {Roman} stoppped VLNC

[07:19] {Roman} long SCON

[07:22] {Roman} long ACPW swing

[07:22] {Roman} 2

[07:23] {magoo} out ENZN flat...not my type

[07:28] {Threei} keep an eye on TMTA

[07:29] {Threei} may become a wakening up again giant if momo catches up

[07:29] {Threei} spent a while shying from attention but haven't really dropped much

[07:29] {Threei} after that huge gap and run

[07:30] {Threei} *DOE CRUDE: -800K V -1.5ME; GASOLINE: -800K V -100KE; DISTILLATE: +100K V -400KE;

[07:31] {Threei} CAPACITY ULITILIZATION: 86.2% V 86.8%E

[07:31] {Threei} - API Gasoline: -2.5M

[07:31] {Threei} - API Distillate: +485

[07:39] {Roman} looking to buy EGLE

[07:39] {Roman} on pullback here for a bounce

[07:39] {dino} watching it here too

[07:39] {Roman} bidding 28.10 area

[07:39] {dino} or drys

[07:40] {Threei} ENZN stop to .19

[07:42] {dino} 27.75 me

[07:42] {dino} stepped up, hl l .20

[07:43] {Roman} out EGLE

[07:44] {Threei} QID .94 short if stays below 35

[07:46] {esemde} man.... these Chinese stocks are wacko....just all over the place

[07:47] {dino} pretty much all stocks lately ese

[07:48] {dino} wow drys drops to 103 then bounces in 5 minutes to 110

[07:49] {dino} wynn l off of .50 break

[07:49] {dino} out .75, +.25

[07:50] {dino} eagle nice spot rfr

[07:51] {ramvfin2003} SCON up slow and steady everyday lately

[07:52] {dino} stopped egle .54, +.34

[07:52] {magoo} QID valid?

[07:52] {magoo} i left office

[07:52] {Threei} hard to tell... rather yes

[07:53] {dino} wow rimm

[07:57] {dino} wspi stopped -.27

[07:57] {Roman} i think IDSA just reported

[07:58] {Threei} REPORTS Q3 EPS $0.11, R$17.9M, UP FROM $15.3M Y/Y

[07:58] {Roman} XMSR & SIRI continuing

[08:10] {esemde} Vad you ever follow a time of dayor use time of day as part of your trading?

[08:10] {esemde} it's definately easier to make in that 1st hour and a 1/2 .

[08:10] {Threei} not as a directional thing,

[08:10] {Threei} rather as activity lead

[08:11] {esemde} how do you mena activity lead

[08:11] {Threei} as in, cut down on activity during lunch time

[08:11] {esemde} ok

[08:11] {Threei} XMSR looks determined to reach 16

[08:18] {esemde} long PSPT again .89 1/2 lot

[08:19] {Threei} PTEC?

[08:23] {dino} gs sm l .30

[08:23] {Threei} ASTI

[08:23] {Threei} .50 break small shares

[08:24] {Threei} look to exit into spike after .75 break if you got it

[08:24] {Threei} stop under .30

[08:25] {Threei} out .85

[08:25] {dino} ofix

[08:26] {Threei} a bit early

[08:31] {Threei} XMSR .34 long, .24 stop. If loses .25, looking for pullbacl entry closer to 15

[08:38] {Threei} dino... IDCC

[08:43] {dino} wynn l hl .50 risky

[08:43] {Threei} (FR) PRESIDENT SARKOZY: SAYS 'MONETARY DISARRAY' CAN LEAD TO 'ECONOMIC WAR'- Cannot leave USD as problems for others to solve

[08:43] {Threei} I wonder what he suggests

[08:44] {dino} idcc hmmm

[08:44] {dino} feels like more

[08:59] {Threei} adrenali-deprived... RIMM long on 137 break

[09:00] {Threei} is there any need to add "small shares"?

[09:00] {esemde} sure.....we've heard that one before.....and your looking at an almost perfect setup....

[09:03] {Threei} market is quite schiso today

[09:07] {dino} you think? :)

[09:07] {Threei} not really... but I pretend to

[09:08] {Threei} pullback entry RIMM

[09:08] {Threei} somewhere her with relarively tight stop

[09:08] {Threei} gotta try to time it with NQ reversal

[09:09] {Threei} finger on the trigger

[09:10] {Threei} in

[09:11] {Threei} stop under .50

[09:11] {cosmo} ESLR tests 14

[09:13] {Threei} come on NQ

[09:13] {Threei} little help?

[09:16] {Threei} according to recent market behavior, it's bound to rally 15 points now {G}

[09:19] {Threei} RIMM is not dropping with NQ anymore... just hold .50 please, and should be just fine

[09:19] {magoo} entry u git rimm?

[09:19] {Threei} .80

[09:20] {Threei} grrr

[09:20] {Threei} out

[09:21] {magoo} xmsr ever trigger?i was out office..again..sigh

[09:21] {Threei} nope

[09:21] {Threei} most likely shakeout RIMM but I am not about to check it by risking blown stop

[09:29] {Threei} shaekout that was

[09:42] {Threei} let's see if we can capitalize on schiso moves

[09:43] {Threei} QID short 34.99 if stays under 35.10

[09:49] {Threei} nope, schiso is directed other way

[09:50] {cosmo} ...which is typical..

[09:50] {Threei} lol

[09:56] {Threei} FED'S WARSH: US INFLATION, GROWTH RISKS NOW ROUGHLY BALANCED

[09:56] {Threei} - Says oil, other commodities to pressure inflation in short run

[09:56] {Threei} - View on policy stance would shift if data changes forecast or risk to forecast

[09:56] {Threei} -

[09:58] {dino} snci

[09:59] {Threei} I don't swee news

[10:01] {Raven} swee this !

[10:14] {Chaeron} hi Raven

[10:14] {Threei} ONXX short small shares

[10:14] {Threei} stop above .50

[10:15] {Threei} .25 trigger

[10:15] * Raven slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout

[10:15] {Threei} FED'S POOLE: DISORDERED FINANCIAL MARKETS IS NOT YET COMPLETE

[10:16] {Threei} FED'S LOCKHART: MARKETS MAY ENDURE WEEKS OR MONTHS OF VOLATILITY

[10:16] {Threei} - Housing is likely to weigh on consumer spending, unlikley to severely impact economy, envisions 'moderate' slowdown in economy activity

[10:16] {Threei} - Sees slower GDP in Q4 and first half of 2008

[10:16] {Threei} - Ancedotal evidence paints grimmer picture than data

[10:16] {Threei} - Says October job market data 'encouraging'

[10:16] {Threei} - Inflation has improved, but risks remain

[10:16] {Threei} - Says Financial system today is more 'opaque'{XHB}

[10:16] {Raven} I see right thru that !

[10:18] {esemde} and down she goes....interesting market.......welll i'll have to leave you all to it...gotta go take care see you tomorrow

[10:18] {Threei} take care ese

[10:19] {esemde} see ya vad

[10:19] {Chaeron} bye ese

[10:19] {Threei} wow

[10:19] {Chaeron} we're going to zero

[10:19] {Threei} today?

[10:20] {Chaeron} naaaaaa.... going to torture us

[10:20] {Threei} too bad

[10:20] {Threei} I'd buy .00001

[10:21] {Raven} remain clam

[10:21] {Chaeron} i know.. I wanted tomorrow off

[10:21] {Roman} long WM

[10:21] {Threei} who are you calling a clam raven?

[10:21] {Roman} 1/2 size will try for bounce

[10:21] {Roman} 20.01

[10:22] {Chaeron} I thought that he was training shellfish

[10:22] {Raven} lol

[10:22] * Raven slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout

[10:23] {Threei} out ONXX

[10:23] {Threei} no gravity

[10:23] {Threei} I knew gravity was a hoax

[10:24] {Raven} who?

[10:26] {Roman} long JASO small

[10:26] {Roman} 59.11

[10:33] {Roman} out 1/2 WM +.31

[10:35] {Threei} nice one roman, thanks

[10:35] {Roman} out JASO +.42

[10:36] {dino} gj

[10:37] {Chaeron} nice Roman

[10:38] {Roman} ty

[10:41] {Roman} out remaining +.70

[10:50] {Roman} PRGO may go for

[10:50] {Roman} small scalp here

[10:51] {Roman} in .88 looking to exit .99

[10:51] {Threei} you preomise to be careful enough not to spend it all at once

[10:51] {Threei} you will re-fuel inflation feds just defetaed

[10:52] {Threei} sheesh, my typing today...

[10:52] {Roman} :)

[10:56] {Roman} out PRGO

[11:11] {Threei} LULU short small shares if breaks down .50

[11:11] {Threei} over .75 invalidated

[11:12] {Threei} not available

[11:13] {dino} wynn finally trying

[11:14] {dino} out wynn +.24

[11:14] {Threei} IMCL .17 long half lot, stop under 44

[11:18] {Threei} in aggressively .03

[11:18] {Threei} .94 stop

[11:21] {Threei} GAIA dino

[11:23] {dino} hmmmm

[11:23] {dino} \no news

[11:24] {dino} reporting tonight

[11:24] {Threei} FED'S POOLE Q&A: MARKET SHOULD NOT ANTICIPATE RATE CUT AT NEXT MEETING, BUT NOT THE SAME AS SAYING A CUT HAS BEEN RULED OUT

[11:25] {patience} nothing like certainty for the stock market

[11:26] {dino} they should just shut up. we all know another couple cuts are coming.

[11:27] {Roman} i think NOT

[11:27] {patience} everytime fed speaks, my euro's, aussi dollar calls climb

[11:28] {Threei} FED'S LOCKHART: STILL NOT CERTAIN SIV FUND WILL BE IMPLEMENTED

[11:29] {Threei} anyone was able to short LULU?

[11:29] {hawkfan4} in .50 vad

[11:30] {Threei} keep stop just above .70 for now

[11:30] {hawkfan4} kk

[11:30] {Threei} this big bid at .25 is important indication

[11:30] {Threei} if taken, should tank nicely

[11:31] {dino} nile, making me cry, played it afterhours yesterday long from 68 to 69.60, sheesh

[11:32] {dino} they are coming rfr, just you wait. .75 by may

[11:32] {Roman} i know u want it cause u are a real estate flipper

[11:33] {dino} it's the only way out w/o throwing everybody out of the houses and breaking the too big to fail banks

[11:33] {Threei} shorted a little GAIA

[11:33] {Threei} stop above day high

[11:33] {dino} imo of course

[11:33] {Roman} people that have jobs can still pay mortgage, it's real estate investors who inflated prices

[11:34] {Roman} i live in miami, i see what's been going on

[11:34] {dino} alot of sub-primers who never should have bought a house

[11:34] {dino} time will tell

[11:34] {dino} btw, i just bid a foreclosure, 3 bedroom 2 bath at 50k, the price of a nice car

[11:35] {Roman} true

[11:35] {Roman} this could be nice flip

[11:35] {dino} when they get to car prices, i have to bid 'em

[11:36] {Threei} and bid cars when they get to the price of a toothbrush

[11:36] {dino} lol

[11:37] {Threei} of course you won't have money to buy toothbrush if they sustain inflation... but with a lot of houses and cars, who cares about bad breath

[11:37] {Roman} i was saying the real estate topped since 04

[11:37] {Roman} but it continued going up

[11:38] {Roman} but turned in 05

[11:38] {Roman} i just know the FREE MONEY is not going to last

[11:38] {dino} you will be buying again in 6 months i bet

[11:38] {Roman} NO F WAY

[11:38] {dino} really, thought you sold yours

[11:38] {Roman} lot's of flippers got burned

[11:39] {Roman} working at publix

[11:39] {Roman} but they were driving bentley in 04

[11:39] {Threei} die LULU for hawkfan

[11:39] {Threei} die GAIA for me

[11:39] {dino} lol

[11:40] {Roman} russian community here things got super crazy

[11:40] {Threei} ummm... go up real estate for dino?

[11:40] {Roman} people wearing Versaci chains

[11:40] {Roman} Chanel diamond chains

[11:41] {dino} see it everywhere, lots real estate agents crying too.

[11:41] {Threei} buzz cut and sport constumes?

[11:41] {dino} but buy when the blood runs

[11:41] {Roman} i want to wear a diamond too and drive a bentley

[11:42] {dino} dino the contrarian you know. everybody tells me i'm nuts, but it usually works out

[11:42] {Threei} I don't... something must be wrong with me

[11:42] {Roman} did u know Vad trades in a Pimp Suit wearing fake diamond chains?

[11:42] {dino} lol i wear a pulsar watch and drive a dodge durango

[11:42] {Threei} I just like the sound

[11:43] {Threei} they chime nicely

[11:43] {Roman} the picture you see of Vad on the website is quite old its from Soviet Union times when he was still conservative but now

[11:44] {Threei} but I still vote conservative... does that count?

[11:44] {Roman} Vad we have no trial members at this time in the room so i guess i can joke for now

[11:44] {Threei} you can joke when they are here too

[11:44] {Threei} I don't care much for members with no sense of humor

[11:45] {Threei} (providing we can call this humor)

[11:45] {Roman} :)

[11:45] {dino} :)

[11:46] {dino} you should see magoo trade in in camos

[11:47] {Threei} that's a mental image I am going to spend fortune on shrinks to get rid of

[11:47] {dino} clwr

[11:49] {Threei} actually everything about magoo is shrink involvement-causing

[11:49] {dino} indeed

[11:51] {dino} mygn

[11:51] {Threei} starting from trout joy he genrously spreads round and finishing with his trades that are as heart attack waiting to happen

[11:55] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[11:55] {Threei} there... joy is being spread

[11:56] {dino} is that what you call it

[11:56] {Threei} NASDAQ has declared Self Help against the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) as/of 14:51:03 E.T

[11:56] {Threei} what does that mean?

[11:57] {Threei} NYSE reporting streetwide problems on multiple trading posts.

[11:58] {dino} great

[11:58] {Raven} {------------ circling the NYSE

[12:00] {Threei} SEPT CONSUMER CREDIT: $3.7B V $9.0BE

[12:00] {dino} huh, way lower

[12:00] {Raven} everybody paid off balances dino

[12:01] {dino} i guess so, so consumer not as bad as news says

[12:01] {Raven} they used their home equity

[12:01] {dino} mygn hl l .02

[12:02] {Threei} cool beans LULU, now just post nice offer and drop dead

[12:02] {dino} back in 10

[12:04] {Threei} stubborn thing... you may have to try bid it somewhere hawk, not getting offers chasing it down when it bids drop

[12:05] {hawkfan4} usually an all or nothing stock for me, gonna wait it out a bit

[12:05] {Threei} ok, makes sense

[12:05] {Threei} we placed stop with surgical precision

[12:06] {hawkfan4} perfection :)

[12:10] {Threei} action is very wierd today

[12:18] {dino} mygn stopped .80-.22

[12:21] {dino} out gs .70, +.40

[12:25] {Threei} PRESIDENT BUSH: OIL PRICES RISING DUE TO DEMAND, NOT DUE TO STANCE ON IRAN

[12:26] {dino} another guy that should shut up

[12:38] {dino} sm l gs .51

[12:41] {dino} out .91 +.40

[12:50] {Threei} ok guys, thank you, have a good evening

[12:50] {Threei} see you tomorrow

[12:50] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[12:50] {dino} take care 3i

[12:50] {magoo} so u think of what u said today he he

[12:50] {Threei} I will

[12:51] {magoo} think CAMO magoo

[12:51] {Threei} my eyes...

[12:52] {magoo} nitemares

[12:53] {patience} hey magoo, you going hunting this Fall?

[12:53] {magoo} yep

[12:58] {dino} calling it a night. thx all

[13:02] {dptl} good night all

November 6, 2007

Session Start: Tue Nov 06 00:00:01 2007

Session Time: Tue Nov 06 00:00:01 2007

[05:26] {bruce} morning rt

[05:28] {magoo} morn bruce, Rt

[05:33] {bruce} hi magoo

[05:34] {Threei} good morning guys

[05:34] {Threei} green opening... of course

[05:34] {magoo} morn vad

[05:34] {Threei} mags :)

[05:48] {esemde} mornin all....

[05:48] {Threei} ese :)

[05:49] {dptl} good morning all

[05:49] {esemde} morning Vad

[05:49] {esemde} dp

[05:49] {Threei} dp :)

[05:50] {bruce} hello dp, ese

[05:51] {hawkfan4} morning all

[05:51] {Threei} hawk :)

[05:51] {bruce} hi hawk

[05:55] {esemde} Am looking for a new laptop...any recomendations

[05:58] {cosmo} a dulcimer?

[05:59] {Threei} keeping an eye on ESLR

[05:59] {Threei} (again)

[06:00] {cosmo} ...using the third eye, i would presume...

[06:01] {Threei} don't overestimate my ability to count

[06:04] {dino} gm all

[06:04] {Threei} dino :)

[06:05] {bruce} hi dino

[06:05] {cosmo} Here comes the sun: http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/hdimages/volcanocamhd.jpg

[06:05] {esemde} I get this feeling Solar is worth watching...FSLR up $14 on orders]

[06:06] {Threei} yeah, ASTI is gapping too

[06:08] {cosmo} GTXI

[06:09] {cosmo} GTx, Inc. Earnings Conference Call and GTx-Merck collaboration (happening now)

[06:10] {cosmo} GTx Narrows Its 3Q Loss on Collaboration

[06:10] {cosmo} AP (Tue 8:01am)

[06:11] {cosmo} 18.17 spike high so far

[06:11] {Threei} Cityigroup suddenly noticed that stock overshot their target so it started looking like downgrade... so what are they to do? of course:

[06:11] {Threei} GSOL PRICE TARGET RAISED TO $45 FROM $25 AT CITIGROUP; MAINTAINS BUY RATING

[06:12] {Roman} watching DSTI today too

[06:12] {Roman} with solars

[06:17] {cosmo} JSDA

[06:18] {cosmo} oops, its soda, not solar...

[06:23] {cosmo} DIVX: Earnings: DivX Q3 Revenue Up 42 Percent; Kevin Hell Named CEO

[06:23] {cosmo} paidContent.org (Mon 4:32pm)

[06:24] {cosmo} 14.40 high ...so far

[06:29] {cosmo} 14.75 hod ...looks dangerous

[06:31] {Threei} ESLR .80 long

[06:31] {Threei} .69 stop

[06:32] {bruce} in eslr .8

[06:33] {magoo} in ESLR too

[06:33] {esemde} i'm long ESLR as well Vad

[06:33] {magoo} poy

[06:33] {magoo} oy

[06:34] {Threei} if takes this .85 offer, likely to spike into 13

[06:36] {Threei} good boy

[06:36] {magoo} or was it girl?

[06:36] {Threei} NQ weakness holding it back

[06:39] {Threei} BRCM .25 long if stays above .10

[06:39] {Roman} DSTI

[06:39] {esemde} long CPSL 5.50

[06:42] {Roman} HOKU also solar

[06:42] {Roman} may go with others

[06:43] {magoo} nvda long too

[06:44] {Threei} over 1:1 ESLR

[06:44] {Threei} half out

[06:46] {esemde} out ESLR

[06:46] {Threei} .79 stop for the balance

[06:46] {esemde} tks Vad

[06:46] {Threei} welcome

[06:46] {magoo} out .02 TY

[06:47] {Threei} offering 1/4 more ESLR 13.11

[06:48] {esemde} out CPSL +,10

[06:49] {Threei} hit, stop to .89 for the balance

[06:50] {Threei} out in full.25

[06:50] {Threei} .24 sorry

[06:50] {Threei} BRCM stop to .15

[06:51] {magoo} out nvda .39

[06:51] {magoo} +.19

[06:51] {bruce} all out eslr

[06:51] {magoo} nvda moved a lil better

[06:51] {magoo} still in brcm

[06:52] {magoo} funny..sometimes brcm moves better..others nvda

[06:52] {ramvfin2003} any read on BLDP?

[06:52] {magoo} have to check playbk with "the boyz"

[06:52] {Threei} yeah... and sometimes it rains

[06:53] {Threei} what setup on BLDP?

[06:53] {ramvfin2003} i dont see one thats why askin

[06:53] {Roman} watching CSIQ bfor breakout

[06:54] {magoo} out brcm flat

[06:54] {magoo} worrying me

[06:54] {Threei} ram... I am asking because your question shows you are missing the whole point

[06:54] {esemde} DIVX flat lining at 14.50

[06:54] {Threei} you don't take any stock and try to read it

[06:54] {Threei} you are looking for a stock that shows the recognizable setup

[06:55] {ramvfin2003} ok

[06:55] {Threei} that's why each time you ask about some stock that shows none I am trying to ask you how and why it even got your attention

[06:55] {bruce} stopped brcm

[06:57] {Threei} CSIQ 12.56 trigger Roman?

[06:57] {Roman} yeah

[06:57] {Roman} i think its going

[06:57] {esemde} missed DIVX....rats!!!!

[06:57] {Roman} JASO

[06:58] {Roman} breakout out

[06:58] {bruce} brcm worth second try vad?

[06:58] {Threei} nah

[06:59] {Threei} stock misbehaves, why wastwe time on it

[06:59] {bruce} k

[06:59] {esemde} bstop ASTIZ 12.41

[06:59] {Threei} it can go to 34, I won't care

[07:00] {dino} divx

[07:00] {Threei} I want those that obey a pattern, not just move

[07:00] {Threei} ese, watch ASTI to trade ASTIZ

[07:00] {Roman} *(CA) OCT IVEY PURCHASING MANAGERS INDEX: 57.1 V 55.0E

[07:00] {Roman} - No Revisions{USD/CAD}

[07:00] {Threei} ASTIZ is not moving on its own merits

[07:01] {Roman} SOLF high (solar)

[07:01] {magoo} ESLR wants more

[07:01] {Roman} SSTR on radar (silver play)

[07:01] {magoo} .50 long nvda

[07:02] {Roman} GSOL going to moon

[07:02] {bruce} csco long candidate?

[07:02] {Roman} in CSIQ

[07:03] {Threei} only if you are betting on general market move and if you are very patient

[07:03] {Threei} I personally hate the eway CSCO trades

[07:04] {bruce} k- thanks

[07:04] {Roman} BCON another green play

[07:04] {Roman} maybe find some interest

[07:05] {magoo} nvda 1:1

[07:06] {esemde} missed CSIQ

[07:06] {Roman} SIGM high, nice range

[07:06] {Roman} watching USEG over 5.5

[07:06] {dino} hl s divx .24

[07:07] {dino} \bstop divx .57

[07:08] {magoo} out nvda .69

[07:08] {Threei} good one

[07:09] {cosmo} CTSH healing

[07:10] {Threei} ese, you got your fill ASTIZ?

[07:13] {esemde} yes

[07:13] {dino} abk s hl .38

[07:13] {esemde} at .48 not .41

[07:13] {Threei} ugh

[07:13] {Threei} don't use market orders on such thin one

[07:14] {esemde} ya that was a mistiake.....i'd meant to do limit but goofed

[07:15] {Roman} SWHC short

[07:16] {bruce} any read mrvl vad?

[07:16] {esemde} if i get some help from NQ Vad i'll stay in...but i don't like the way it is trading so will probably take small profit and get out

[07:17] {Roman} VLNC

[07:17] {Roman} long off 2.4

[07:17] {Roman} 1/2

[07:18] {Threei} MRVL I'd orefer pullback closer to 18.60 to look for entry. Breakout buy at .85 only if stays above .70

[07:18] {Threei} use ASTI as leading indicator for it rathger than NQ ese

[07:18] {bruce} k- kind of looks like a long but volume on daily weaker hatn average

[07:18] {dino} abk stopped -.40

[07:19] {Roman} in VLNC

[07:20] {esemde} OK will do....

[07:20] {esemde} tks Vad

[07:21] {Roman} short SWHC 12.27 area

[07:21] {magoo} naz selling

[07:21] {esemde} price pattern looks same ASTI/ASTIZ

[07:22] {Threei} sure... ASTIZ is not independent stock, it's ASTI's warrant

[07:22] {esemde} ah ha....

[07:23] {Threei} [10:00] {Threei} ASTIZ is not moving on its own merits

[07:23] {Threei} :)

[07:23] {Threei} XMSR?

[07:24] {Roman} CNBC pump

[07:24] {Roman} SIRI & XMSR

[07:24] {Threei} OPEC SUMMIT COMMUNIQUE WILL NOT MENTION AN OIL OUTPUT INCREASE - WIRE HEADLINE CITING SOURCES

[07:24] {magoo} nvda stronger than qqqq today

[07:24] {magoo} holds the pullbk

[07:24] {Threei} good observation

[07:25] {Threei} salmon flavor to it today

[07:25] {Roman} out CSIQ -.08

[07:26] {esemde} out ASTIZ.. .-23

[07:26] {esemde} 1/2 lot thank goodness

[07:28] {esemde} ya win some....ya lose some....

[07:28] {Threei} sometimes you are bug, sometimes you are windshield

[07:28] {Roman} nice VAd

[07:29] {esemde} yep

[07:29] {esemde} What the first thing that goes through a bugs mind when \it hits the windheild?

[07:29] {magoo} whats last thing bug sees when hits windshield?

[07:29] {Threei} CPSL is still moving

[07:29] {esemde} it

[07:30] {magoo} his ass

[07:30] {esemde} it's rear end

[07:30] {esemde} ...mags were thinking alike this morning

[07:30] {Threei} I think I need help... I actually find it funny

[07:31] {Threei} my consolation is, magoo and ese do too

[07:31] {Threei} and one of them at least is sure to bring beer

[07:32] {magoo} i read your blog yesterday

[07:32] {esemde} that will be mags....i'm alergic to beer

[07:32] {Threei} so it's my fault

[07:32] {magoo} i liked the reference on magopo

[07:32] {esemde} bottle of wine....now thats a differnt story

[07:32] {magoo} u know, just "lucky" and "stops are skill" he he

[07:32] {Threei} hmmm... dino, magoo has mania grandiosa

[07:33] {Threei} or multiple personality disorder

[07:33] {Threei} he thinks he is you

[07:33] {Threei} ese... I am the best position then, I happily drink both

[07:33] {Threei} in the best

[07:33] {esemde} indeed.....i can vouch for that...

[07:35] {Threei} was tempted very much to call BRCM short and refrained... too bad

[07:40] {magoo} with mkt help nvda should take 38 3asy

[07:40] {dino} hl l wynn risky, .94

[07:40] {dino} .92

[07:43] {Threei} CALIFORNIA HOUSING MARKET IS IN A 'FREEFALL' - UBS CONF- says land options have helped reduce write-downs

[07:43] {dino} stopped .52, -.40

[07:44] {magoo} no mkt help today

[07:45] {magoo} look bidu vad

[07:45] {magoo} off of 429

[07:45] {Threei} yikes

[07:45] {magoo} like 31 pt swing

[07:45] {Threei} NVDA typical salmon today, you are right

[07:45] {magoo} in it too .78

[07:47] {magoo} out here .96

[07:48] {magoo} [10:41] {magoo} with mkt help nvda should take 38 3asy

[07:48] {magoo} didn't even get help

[07:49] {Threei} just a little

[07:49] {Threei} small NQ bounce pushed it

[07:49] {Threei} which is exactly the way salmon acts

[07:50] {dino} mbi hl s .25

[07:50] {Roman} cover 1/2 SWHC +.26

[07:55] {dino} cov mbi .01, +.24

[07:57] {Threei} amazing strength NVDA

[07:57] {dino} amazing smell magoo

[07:58] {Threei} .10 long half lot if stayus above 38

[07:58] {dino} grmn getting a bid

[07:58] {Threei} NQ is likely to stage decent bounce here

[07:59] {magoo} l brcm .20

[08:01] {magoo} l nvda

[08:01] {dino} boom

[08:03] {dino} divx cov .17, +.08, won't move

[08:03] {dino} .07

[08:04] {Roman} long SCON

[08:05] {Roman} 1/2 size

[08:05] {Threei} just wAnted to ask what's up with it

[08:05] {Roman} i don't see news, just SCON

[08:06] {Roman} the boyz want to pop it a bit

[08:06] {Roman} probably

[08:06] {dino} l hl ocnf .00

[08:06] {Roman} out VLNC +.20

[08:07] {Threei} wow VLNC

[08:07] {Threei} it has something to do with electrical cars I seem to remember vaguely?

[08:08] {Roman} just alternative energy play

[08:08] {Roman} that's what it is to me

[08:09] {dino} i think borat's car was alternate

[08:09] {Roman} nice!

[08:10] {magoo} that movie was retarded

[08:10] {magoo} can't believe it won awards

[08:10] {Threei} in the world where al gore wins them, mags

[08:10] {magoo} now VBLOOD DIAMOND was a great movie

[08:11] {magoo} anyone see it?

[08:11] {Roman} BORAT was excellent movie

[08:11] {Roman} u got to understand the humor, u americans don't get it

[08:11] {dino} lol rfr

[08:12] {Roman} i bet u like bevis and butthead whatever that was

[08:12] {magoo} blood diamon anyone?

[08:12] {hawkfan4} saw it mags, was great

[08:12] {dino} family guy, now thats funny

[08:12] {hawkfan4} but i also loved borat :)

[08:12] {Threei} hey, just don't say a word on Willy something on chocolate factory roman, that's untouchable

[08:12] {magoo} no more diamonds for mrs magoo..she pissed

[08:13] {Roman} yeah, that Blood Diamond was great, but it DID NOT MAKE ME HAPPY, i actually cried during the movie, so i prefer to watch movies that MAKE ME HAPPY

[08:13] {Roman} and BORAT : made me happy

[08:13] {Threei} cried eh

[08:13] {magoo} SHEESH

[08:13] {dino} a diamond, 'cause she'll have to....family guy

[08:13] {Roman} my wife is pregnant , so i am overly sensative

[08:13] {magoo} i cried in borat...couldn't take it

[08:13] {Threei} I remove myself from discussing anything with sensitive types {G}

[08:14] {magoo} was like that scene in clockwork orange

[08:14] {Threei} I end up offending everything they (sensitive types) hold dear

[08:15] {magoo} i find your room offensive...thats why i still in itr

[08:15] {ramvfin2003} big offers at 11 on scon

[08:15] {Threei} good 'cauxe I enjoy offending you

[08:15] {Chaeron} only thing offensive here is your typing magoo :)

[08:15] {Threei} lol

[08:15] {magoo} and your good at it too

[08:16] {magoo} chaer roflol

[08:16] {magoo} i missed on blood damond thee times

[08:16] {Threei} trying my best mags, trying my best :)

[08:16] {bruce} wynn still dumping dino

[08:16] {bruce} I saw blood diamond

[08:16] {bruce} good movie

[08:16] {dino} watching it bruce

[08:16] {bruce} hard to think of dicaprio as soldier of fortune though

[08:17] {bruce} terrible whatthey do to kids over there

[08:17] {dino} same thoughts here

[08:17] {magoo} he played role well

[08:17] {bruce} had nightmares after watching it

[08:17] {magoo} and van de kapp sponsoring wjhole thing...holding back supply

[08:18] {bruce} I think that happens for real mags

[08:18] {bruce} movie was pretty accurate

[08:18] {magoo} oh..i sure it does

[08:18] {Chaeron} that's why I only will buy Moisenite stoes instead of diamonds

[08:19] {Chaeron} stones

[08:19] {magoo} 11:13] {magoo} no more diamonds for mrs magoo..she pissed

[08:19] {bruce} good for her

[08:20] {bruce} get her fur coat instead!

[08:20] {magoo} i always felt bad abouit buying diamonds anyway...but now i REALLY feel bad

[08:20] {Chaeron} check out Moisenites magoo...

[08:20] {magoo} whats a mosquitoe got to do with it chaer??

[08:20] {bruce} buy canadian diamonds mags

[08:22] {dino} i don't buy them anymore, wife would rather put money into house

[08:22] {bruce} good plan

[08:22] {bruce} I'd do that too if I had any money

[08:24] {dino} grmn, didn't belve it

[08:26] {bruce} boom continues too dino

[08:27] {dino} wynn trig .75 imo

[08:27] {dino} yeah, i'm an idiot today, :)

[08:27] {bruce} k thanx

[08:27] {bruce} was thinking .6

[08:31] {bruce} brcm finally goes - poc

[08:32] {magoo} out brcm .46, + .26

[08:32] {bruce} nice mags

[08:32] {magoo} [11:00] {magoo} l brcm .20

[08:33] {magoo} took long time

[08:33] {bruce} saw your entry - couldn't read it one way or other myself

[08:34] {magoo} alot longer than i like..33 minutes

[08:34] {dino} ocnf stopped -.25

[08:35] {bruce} k - ithought you did some whole day trades mags

[08:35] {esemde} see you all tomorrow...have a great day...

[08:35] {magoo} WHAT???ask vad..i guessed pissed anytrhing over 3 minutes

[08:35] {Threei} take care ese

[08:35] {magoo} bye ES

[08:35] {Threei} magoo... concept of instant gratification spoils you

[08:35] {bruce} lol

[08:36] {Chaeron} buy ese

[08:36] {bruce} bye ese

[08:36] {Chaeron} oops bye ese

[08:36] {bruce} ese is for sale?

[08:36] {Chaeron} cheap

[08:36] {bruce} lol

[08:36] {bruce} does he scrub follrs?

[08:36] {bruce} floors

[08:36] {esemde} yes...

[08:36] {Chaeron} no but will give you and mags typing lessons

[08:36] {esemde} for sure...see ya

[08:37] {Threei} bruce, you have no idea what kind of abuse I take from magoo every time stock doesn't rewqard him in 1 minute or less

[08:37] {bruce} mags and I are teaching you guys new words

[08:37] {bruce} you sholuld be grateful

[08:37] {bruce} ah - no wonder you need to hide undr rock periodically vad

[08:38] {Threei} yep... that's the reason

[08:38] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[08:38] {Threei} see? and I even didn't call anything slow

[08:39] {bruce} lol

[08:39] {bruce} that was to make sure you're awake vad

[08:39] {Threei} am not

[08:39] {Threei} I find trading in comatose state much more rewarding

[08:40] {bruce} k

[08:40] {bruce} I thought it wasjust the glue you like to sniff

[08:41] {magoo} bruce dcc

[08:41] {Threei} I had to give that up... couldn't remember the brand

[08:41] {Threei} oh and bruce... don't believe anything magoo says about me in dcc

[08:42] {Threei} I do not drink 2 boxes of vodka a day

[08:42] {Threei} and I do not eat bottles after I am done with vodka

[08:48] {bruce} lol

[08:48] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[08:48] {bruce} mags says you don't work without regualr trouting

[08:49] {bruce} slaps 3i around with a very large trout

[08:49] {Threei} sigh

[08:49] {bruce} lol

[08:49] {bruce} don't do that

[08:50] {bruce} you'll have us feeling sorry for you

[08:50] {bruce} fwit - green again today vad

[08:50] {bruce} 4 days in row

[08:50] {bruce} scary

[08:50] {Threei} wtg

[08:50] {Threei} yeah, success is scary

[08:50] {bruce} nice rend

[08:51] {Threei} and btw... this is not a joke really

[08:51] {Threei} success does scare many

[08:52] {Threei} without even realizing it, they start sabotaging themselves

[08:52] {magoo} u know whars scary?

[08:52] {bruce} hope thats not me

[08:52] {dino} great job bruce

[08:52] {bruce} dino - wynn may be 5ready to reverse - thoguhts?

[08:52] {Threei} that won't be you if you understan d underlying mechanics of this phenomenon

[08:52] {magoo} vads pic on last blog he he

[08:52] {Threei} lol

[08:52] {Threei} think of why people do that

[08:53] {dino} yeah, but no market help, so laying off for now

[08:53] {magoo} mkt help starting now

[08:53] {bruce} k - thanx dino

[08:53] {dino} oopps

[08:53] {Threei} losing, however starnge it sounds, invokes feeling of being in the zone of psychological comfort in many,

[08:54] {dino} maybe now bruce]

[08:54] {bruce} hmmm- well losing doesn't do that for me

[08:54] {dino} mkt starting up

[08:54] {bruce} but understand what you are sayong

[08:54] {Threei} giving them opportunity to complain and to avoid responsibility for what happens to them

[08:54] {magoo} how smart are u vad really...alot of human psocholy u post

[08:54] {Threei} Success leaves thenm on the front edge

[08:54] {Threei} and this is position in which you are responsible,

[08:55] {Threei} alone

[08:55] {Threei} not everyone is comfortable with open naked self-repsonsibility

[08:55] {dino} i agree w/you vad, some think its easier to lose and blame others

[08:55] {Threei} exactly

[08:56] {dino} hear it every day

[08:56] {dino} so bruce, think.... being poor sucks, staying poor is stupid

[08:56] {dino} frpt

[08:57] {Threei} in a wierrd way, this discussion of particular case of trading psychology goes into the deep roots of raw capitalism vs pink socialism

[08:57] {Threei} why doesn't socialism work?

[08:57] {bruce} in wynn .28 dino

[08:57] {Threei} 'cause, among other things, it instills in people this "state will take care of me"

[08:57] {bruce} its grat in theory

[08:58] {bruce} agreed - destroys personal initiative

[08:58] {Threei} right

[08:58] {bruce} and stifles creativity

[08:58] {dino} bingo

[08:58] {bruce} go wynn

[08:58] {Threei} in trading as in no other field of activity, your actions directly cause the results

[08:58] {magoo} ok, my input

[08:58] {dino} vad is one deep cookie

[08:58] {bruce} my youngsest is socialist

[08:58] {bruce} wants to start own political party

[08:58] {dino} ugh

[08:58] {dino} lol

[08:59] {Threei} me, deep? if you call philosophy "tree good, fire bad" deep, then yes {G}

[08:59] {magoo} u put out birdfeedr...birds come..then too many come...start making mess...eating way too much

[08:59] {dino} in america we say...everyones' a libral, until the get a mortgage

[08:59] {Threei} lol

[08:59] {magoo} building nests allover...then nasty ravems come..sqwack all nite..dive bomb u...

[09:00] {Threei} if anything is ever going to kill this country, it will be bleeding hearts and political correctness

[09:00] {dino} same here

[09:00] {magoo} so, tear dsown the feeder, clean up doo doo..tear down nests and restore your comfort

[09:00] {magoo} apply to welfare

[09:01] {magoo} give them food stamps...free housing...next thing they overcrowd home...

[09:01] {Threei} I like that Roman is politically incorrect since he likes Borat... but his crying in the movies made me suspect he has a case of bleeding heart riping in him

[09:01] {magoo} buy drugs...crime increases..and you have mess

[09:01] {Threei} yeah... it calls enabling

[09:02] {Threei} safe injection sites?

[09:02] {Threei} sigh

[09:02] {bruce} stopped wynn - 30c

[09:03] {Threei} so... now that we established that trading is a frontier of raw capitalism, its last stronghold... I want to find a trade

[09:03] {Threei} market lost the beat somewhat, no rythm last hour or so

[09:04] {Threei} so I went silent... but watching for something to shape up

[09:04] {bruce} they're really payingprice in russia vad seems like

[09:05] {bruce} may be another generation before most people start helpingthemselves

[09:05] {Threei} I haven't been there since 1996... my judgement is probably getting outdated

[09:06] {bruce} people giving puting way to much power

[09:06] {bruce} bad sign

[09:06] {bruce} HEY VAD -

[09:07] {bruce} find us a trade

[09:07] {dino} penx

[09:08] {Threei} giving?

[09:09] {Threei} as if anyone asked them

[09:09] {bruce} drat - there goes wynn

[09:09] {dino} you know, picleloaf is an under-rated lunch meat

[09:09] {dino} pickle

[09:09] {Threei} lol

[09:12] {magoo} getting hungry listening to dino rant about the advantages of pickle loaf iover balogna

[09:12] {bruce} spam anyone?

[09:12] {dino} i like that too

[09:13] {dino} abax

[09:14] {Roman} PLU

[09:14] {Roman} PLUG

[09:15] {dino} wynn waking

[09:16] {bruce} yes -

[09:16] {Roman} long BLDP

[09:16] {Roman} 1/3

[09:18] {dino} l wynn .75 hl

[09:20] {dino} out .27, +.52

[09:21] {bruce} nice dino

[09:21] {bruce} my .65 ofer wasn't taken

[09:21] {Roman} JASO

[09:21] {bruce} bid rather

[09:22] {bruce} amzn

[09:22] {dino} i'd like to see it take 141.50

[09:26] {Roman} long CSIQ

[09:26] {Roman} 1/2

[09:27] {dino} abax hl s .02

[09:30] {dino} cov .60, +.42

[09:36] {dino} no takers i see

[09:36] {Threei} we hate so much profit in such short time

[09:36] {Threei} we like struiggle

[09:36] {bruce} I tried at .03 dino

[09:37] {dino} ok, i see how it is........

[09:37] {bruce} didn't get in - only doing limit order entys on those trades

[09:40] {dino} bustin' ya

[09:40] {bruce} possible higher low forming in wynn

[09:41] {dino} needs the higher high to confirm, imo

[09:42] {bruce} entry about 141.5?

[09:42] {dino} i like it, brb tho

[09:47] {bruce} you like struggle vad?

[09:47] {bruce} no wonder mags keeps trouting you

[09:47] {bruce} spoken like true bolshevik

[09:47] {Threei} lol

[09:48] {bruce} lol

[09:50] {dino} midd

[09:50] {magoo} trout????

[09:50] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[09:50] {Threei} lol dino

[09:50] {Threei} just typed "MIDD dino"

[09:50] {dino} midd stock i mean

[09:50] {dino} ohhh

[09:51] {Threei} I am becoming trout-numb, magoo

[09:51] {dino} cap'n cavm drops

[09:56] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[09:58] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[09:58] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[09:58] {Threei} abuse I take...

[09:59] {bruce} now you have reason to feel numb vad

[09:59] {dino} l hl wynn .75

[10:00] {magoo} l hl wynn .64

[10:01] {magoo} dino knows this

[10:01] {magoo} yelled to hium

[10:03] {dino} stop to .97

[10:03] {magoo} also yelled btring me my lunch

[10:05] {dino} algt

[10:05] {magoo} i sucjh a tretard

[10:06] {magoo} just learned after 3 yrs that if double click on pending order it canx instead of cancelling all

[10:06] {magoo} he he

[10:07] {magoo} did u know this feature vad?

[10:07] {dino} stop to .15

[10:08] {Threei} lol

[10:08] {Threei} you are kidding mags

[10:08] {magoo} sadly no..was canx all and reentering the keepes

[10:08] {magoo} SIFHGH

[10:09] {dino} out wynn .16, +.41

[10:09] {Chaeron} nice dino

[10:09] {dino} thx, lucky entry

[10:11] {magoo} waiting .67

[10:12] {magoo} kickin kickin

[10:13] {Roman} watching DSTI

[10:15] {dino} dxpe

[10:18] {magoo} wynn fighting magoo all the way

[10:18] {magoo} dangling bannanas

[10:19] {Threei} grrr

[10:19] {Threei} ESLR sneaked up on me again

[10:20] {magoo} me too..was watchin it earlier'

[10:21] {Threei} I thought of using 12.80 as support level for entry but it looked so dead

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[10:24] {magoo} ARGGGGGGGGgtorture

[10:25] {magoo} WYNN c,mon

[10:25] {magoo} .67

[10:25] {magoo} room push paleasssssse

[10:26] {dino} l hl wynn .54

[10:26] {magoo} i woulda sold ya mine

[10:26] {Roman} CSIQ coming back

[10:27] {Roman} got some at .25 area

[10:29] {magoo} out .40 here

[10:30] {magoo} + .76

[10:30] {magoo} hl

[10:30] {dino} gj

[10:30] {patience} no kidding

[10:31] {dino} gmcr

[10:31] {magoo} [12:59] {dino} l hl wynn .75

[10:31] {magoo} [13:01] {magoo} l hl wynn .64

[10:31] {magoo} [13:01] {magoo} dino knows this

[10:31] {magoo} [13:01] {magoo} yelled to hium

[10:31] {magoo} [13:04] {dino} stop to .97

[10:31] {magoo} [13:04] {magoo} also yelled btring me my lunch

[10:32] {magoo} still waitin on lunch

[10:32] {dino} gmcr hl l .70

[10:33] {Threei} VLNC may still be scalpable on .60 break

[10:34] {bruce} in gmcr

[10:36] {Roman} short PAAS

[10:36] {Roman} 36.16, 1/3

[10:39] {Roman} PLUG going

[10:39] {Roman} in swing

[10:41] {dino} gmcr stopped .53-.17

[10:41] {bruce} stopped gmcr

[10:41] {Roman} anyone like URRE

[10:41] {Roman} ?

[10:42] {bruce} same . 53

[10:42] {Threei} looked at it several times roman

[10:42] {Threei} wild trader

[10:42] {dino} sorry bruce

[10:42] {magoo} no read rfr

[10:43] {magoo} i like nvvda long here..risky

[10:43] {Roman} i say it goes to $14.25

[10:43] {bruce} thanks dino - but doesn't matter - some wok some dont

[10:43] {magoo} level 2 picking up on it vad

[10:44] {Roman} out PAAS

[10:45] {magoo} put your $$ where mouth is roman lol

[10:45] {magoo} on urre

[10:45] {Threei} VNLC broke

[10:45] {magoo} missed while harrassing rfr vad

[10:45] {Roman} u want me to buy the float magoo?

[10:47] {magoo} u in it??

[10:48] {Roman} very small, its one of those too easy looking

[10:48] {Roman} i don't believe in too easy looking

[10:49] {magoo} there she blowsssss

[10:49] {magoo} nice alert from .70 area

[10:50] {Roman} FALK strong

[10:50] {Roman} RATE strong

[10:50] {Roman} both sqeezable

[10:50] {Roman} BOOM

[10:50] {Roman} long small

[10:50] {Roman} super small

[10:52] {magoo} symbol FALK?

[10:54] {Roman} out URRE

[10:54] {Roman} _.45

[10:55] {magoo} nice

[10:57] {Roman} the correct symbol is FALC

[10:57] {Roman} sorry

[10:59] {dino} stopped wynn .00 -.54

[11:00] {bruce} me to

[11:00] {bruce} rats

[11:00] {bruce} back to red

[11:01] {dino} same

[11:01] {Roman} dino, just short FSLR

[11:01] {Roman} get $5 and be done wit it

[11:02] {dino} lol

[11:02] {bruce} sounds good roman

[11:02] {Roman} i think we are near the top, i will short for fun 50 shares

[11:02] {bruce} you guaranteeing that $5?

[11:03] {Roman} NOPE

[11:03] {bruce} lol

[11:03] {bruce} damn

[11:03] {bruce} takinga break

[11:03] {bruce} back in 30

[11:05] {dino} theres $1

[11:07] {dino} mbi hl s .95

[11:07] {dino} thers 2

[11:09] {Roman} GYMB close to top

[11:09] {Roman} looking to short small 31.07

[11:11] {Roman} moved to 31.12

[11:11] {Roman} in

[11:18] {Roman} FALC high

[11:20] {Roman} covered my 50 shares of FSLR

[11:20] {Roman} party time

[11:20] {dino} cov mbi .70, +.35

[11:21] {dino} ohhh mannn way too soon

[11:21] {dino} gj

[11:22] {dino} wynn big rinse

[11:25] {dino} bucy

[11:29] {Roman} out CSIQ

[11:32] {dino} .25 mbi, mistake

[11:34] {dino} wynn last try, trig l .50

[11:36] {Roman} cover GYMB +.20

[11:36] {dino} penx hl l .75

[11:51] {Threei} 2.65 break is probably another trigger for VLNC

[11:51] {Threei} in any case it looks far from done

[11:51] {Threei} holding too well close to high

[11:59] {Roman} PRGO vad?

[11:59] {Threei} toughie...

[11:59] {Roman} ESLR high

[12:00] {bruce} prgo sounds like name for a spaghetti sauce

[12:00] {dino} back in 10

[12:01] {Threei} come on VLNC, break

[12:02] {dino} out penx .06, +.31

[12:14] {magoo} vad u in that?

[12:14] {Threei} yeah

[12:14] {magoo} how many shares/

[12:14] {magoo} ?

[12:14] {Threei} 2x

[12:15] {Threei} it may deserve more but I kept myself back because if it stays in this range I may want to hold overnight

[12:15] {magoo} .65? or .66

[12:15] {Threei} .65

[12:15] {magoo} i in .66

[12:15] {magoo} ESLR

[12:15] {magoo} dammit

[12:17] {magoo} vad nvda read?

[12:17] {magoo} WOW just caufght .80

[12:18] {Threei} can't give aread into siuch vertical spike

[12:18] {magoo} oh sure u can

[12:23] {bruce} hes being stubborn mags - asking to be routed

[12:23] {bruce} trouted

[12:23] {magoo} give it to him bruce

[12:24] {bruce} slaps vad around w a large trout!

[12:25] {bruce} bam

[12:25] {bruce} bling

[12:25] {bruce} bong

[12:25] {bruce} ouch!!!

[12:25] {magoo} bruce left click his name on right to highlite it

[12:25] {Threei} I always knew binge drinking is not a very good idea {G}

[12:25] {bruce} you like sound effects mags?

[12:25] {magoo} then right clivck itr..pop up slap

[12:26] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout

[12:26] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout

[12:26] {magoo} not me

[12:26] {bruce} lol

[12:26] {bruce} n

[12:27] * dino slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout

[12:27] {bruce} \never realized there was a slap command

[12:27] {bruce} wonders never cease

[12:28] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout

[12:28] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout

[12:28] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout

[12:28] {Chaeron} suck fish egss Magster

[12:28] {magoo} sigh

[12:28] {dino} wow

[12:29] {dino} chaeron a bit uptight

[12:29] {Chaeron} yeah? and that's different how??? :))

[12:29] {dino} i usually just throw something at him

[12:31] {dino} wynn stop to .80

[12:31] {Chaeron} well... I'm outta here... can't wait to see you all tomorrow. Yes, especially you magoo... Hope raven's ok.. kinda quiet lately

[12:32] {dino} out slippage .75 ave, +.25

[12:32] {magoo} out VLNC

[12:32] {dino} that wynn is tough today

[12:35] {dino} star

[12:35] {Threei} reentered VLNC .52

[12:35] {Threei} but for scalp only

[12:35] {Threei} don't like such behavior

[12:36] {Roman} long SATC small alternative energy

[12:36] {Roman} swing

[12:37] {Raven} {----- observing the chaos

[12:37] {magoo} read BRCM vad?

[12:38] {Threei} if holding .40 and NQ spikes, worth scalp try

[12:38] {Threei} if losing .40, no read

[12:43] {Threei} if you got .42 with 3 cents stop, it's 1:3

[12:44] {magoo} in .41 looking for 100 bux

[12:49] {Threei} out VLNC .60

[12:51] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[12:52] {Threei} hmm?

[12:53] {dino} abax hl s .49

[12:53] {magoo} i lost on first try

[12:58] {Threei} nice finish

[12:58] {magoo} out .50

[12:59] {bruce} tough day

[13:00] {dino} sh#t, stuck wabax short

[13:00] {bruce} see you guys friday

[13:00] {magoo} i up...but it was hard work

[13:00] {dino} toughy here too, up tho

[13:00] {bruce} good to hear dino

[13:00] {Threei} thank you all, have a good evening

[13:00] {dino} yesterday much easier

[13:00] {dptl} have a good evening all...see ya tomorrow :)

[13:00] {Threei} see you tomorrow

[13:01] {bruce} out for next 2 days so see you guys friday

[13:01] {bruce} take care all

[13:02] {dino} take care bruce, 4 in a row, great job

[13:06] {magoo} bye everybody

November 6, 2007

Session Start: Tue Nov 06 00:00:01 2007

Session Time: Tue Nov 06 00:00:01 2007

[05:26] {bruce} morning rt

[05:28] {magoo} morn bruce, Rt

[05:33] {bruce} hi magoo

[05:34] {Threei} good morning guys

[05:34] {Threei} green opening... of course

[05:34] {magoo} morn vad

[05:34] {Threei} mags :)

[05:48] {esemde} mornin all....

[05:48] {Threei} ese :)

[05:49] {dptl} good morning all

[05:49] {esemde} morning Vad

[05:49] {esemde} dp

[05:49] {Threei} dp :)

[05:50] {bruce} hello dp, ese

[05:51] {hawkfan4} morning all

[05:51] {Threei} hawk :)

[05:51] {bruce} hi hawk

[05:55] {esemde} Am looking for a new laptop...any recomendations

[05:58] {cosmo} a dulcimer?

[05:59] {Threei} keeping an eye on ESLR

[05:59] {Threei} (again)

[06:00] {cosmo} ...using the third eye, i would presume...

[06:01] {Threei} don't overestimate my ability to count

[06:04] {dino} gm all

[06:04] {Threei} dino :)

[06:05] {bruce} hi dino

[06:05] {cosmo} Here comes the sun: http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/volcanocams/msh/hdimages/volcanocamhd.jpg

[06:05] {esemde} I get this feeling Solar is worth watching...FSLR up $14 on orders]

[06:06] {Threei} yeah, ASTI is gapping too

[06:08] {cosmo} GTXI

[06:09] {cosmo} GTx, Inc. Earnings Conference Call and GTx-Merck collaboration (happening now)

[06:10] {cosmo} GTx Narrows Its 3Q Loss on Collaboration

[06:10] {cosmo} AP (Tue 8:01am)

[06:11] {cosmo} 18.17 spike high so far

[06:11] {Threei} Cityigroup suddenly noticed that stock overshot their target so it started looking like downgrade... so what are they to do? of course:

[06:11] {Threei} GSOL PRICE TARGET RAISED TO $45 FROM $25 AT CITIGROUP; MAINTAINS BUY RATING

[06:12] {Roman} watching DSTI today too

[06:12] {Roman} with solars

[06:17] {cosmo} JSDA

[06:18] {cosmo} oops, its soda, not solar...

[06:23] {cosmo} DIVX: Earnings: DivX Q3 Revenue Up 42 Percent; Kevin Hell Named CEO

[06:23] {cosmo} paidContent.org (Mon 4:32pm)

[06:24] {cosmo} 14.40 high ...so far

[06:29] {cosmo} 14.75 hod ...looks dangerous

[06:31] {Threei} ESLR .80 long

[06:31] {Threei} .69 stop

[06:32] {bruce} in eslr .8

[06:33] {magoo} in ESLR too

[06:33] {esemde} i'm long ESLR as well Vad

[06:33] {magoo} poy

[06:33] {magoo} oy

[06:34] {Threei} if takes this .85 offer, likely to spike into 13

[06:36] {Threei} good boy

[06:36] {magoo} or was it girl?

[06:36] {Threei} NQ weakness holding it back

[06:39] {Threei} BRCM .25 long if stays above .10

[06:39] {Roman} DSTI

[06:39] {esemde} long CPSL 5.50

[06:42] {Roman} HOKU also solar

[06:42] {Roman} may go with others

[06:43] {magoo} nvda long too

[06:44] {Threei} over 1:1 ESLR

[06:44] {Threei} half out

[06:46] {esemde} out ESLR

[06:46] {Threei} .79 stop for the balance

[06:46] {esemde} tks Vad

[06:46] {Threei} welcome

[06:46] {magoo} out .02 TY

[06:47] {Threei} offering 1/4 more ESLR 13.11

[06:48] {esemde} out CPSL +,10

[06:49] {Threei} hit, stop to .89 for the balance

[06:50] {Threei} out in full.25

[06:50] {Threei} .24 sorry

[06:50] {Threei} BRCM stop to .15

[06:51] {magoo} out nvda .39

[06:51] {magoo} +.19

[06:51] {bruce} all out eslr

[06:51] {magoo} nvda moved a lil better

[06:51] {magoo} still in brcm

[06:52] {magoo} funny..sometimes brcm moves better..others nvda

[06:52] {ramvfin2003} any read on BLDP?

[06:52] {magoo} have to check playbk with "the boyz"

[06:52] {Threei} yeah... and sometimes it rains

[06:53] {Threei} what setup on BLDP?

[06:53] {ramvfin2003} i dont see one thats why askin

[06:53] {Roman} watching CSIQ bfor breakout

[06:54] {magoo} out brcm flat

[06:54] {magoo} worrying me

[06:54] {Threei} ram... I am asking because your question shows you are missing the whole point

[06:54] {esemde} DIVX flat lining at 14.50

[06:54] {Threei} you don't take any stock and try to read it

[06:54] {Threei} you are looking for a stock that shows the recognizable setup

[06:55] {ramvfin2003} ok

[06:55] {Threei} that's why each time you ask about some stock that shows none I am trying to ask you how and why it even got your attention

[06:55] {bruce} stopped brcm

[06:57] {Threei} CSIQ 12.56 trigger Roman?

[06:57] {Roman} yeah

[06:57] {Roman} i think its going

[06:57] {esemde} missed DIVX....rats!!!!

[06:57] {Roman} JASO

[06:58] {Roman} breakout out

[06:58] {bruce} brcm worth second try vad?

[06:58] {Threei} nah

[06:59] {Threei} stock misbehaves, why wastwe time on it

[06:59] {bruce} k

[06:59] {esemde} bstop ASTIZ 12.41

[06:59] {Threei} it can go to 34, I won't care

[07:00] {dino} divx

[07:00] {Threei} I want those that obey a pattern, not just move

[07:00] {Threei} ese, watch ASTI to trade ASTIZ

[07:00] {Roman} *(CA) OCT IVEY PURCHASING MANAGERS INDEX: 57.1 V 55.0E

[07:00] {Roman} - No Revisions{USD/CAD}

[07:00] {Threei} ASTIZ is not moving on its own merits

[07:01] {Roman} SOLF high (solar)

[07:01] {magoo} ESLR wants more

[07:01] {Roman} SSTR on radar (silver play)

[07:01] {magoo} .50 long nvda

[07:02] {Roman} GSOL going to moon

[07:02] {bruce} csco long candidate?

[07:02] {Roman} in CSIQ

[07:03] {Threei} only if you are betting on general market move and if you are very patient

[07:03] {Threei} I personally hate the eway CSCO trades

[07:04] {bruce} k- thanks

[07:04] {Roman} BCON another green play

[07:04] {Roman} maybe find some interest

[07:05] {magoo} nvda 1:1

[07:06] {esemde} missed CSIQ

[07:06] {Roman} SIGM high, nice range

[07:06] {Roman} watching USEG over 5.5

[07:06] {dino} hl s divx .24

[07:07] {dino} \bstop divx .57

[07:08] {magoo} out nvda .69

[07:08] {Threei} good one

[07:09] {cosmo} CTSH healing

[07:10] {Threei} ese, you got your fill ASTIZ?

[07:13] {esemde} yes

[07:13] {dino} abk s hl .38

[07:13] {esemde} at .48 not .41

[07:13] {Threei} ugh

[07:13] {Threei} don't use market orders on such thin one

[07:14] {esemde} ya that was a mistiake.....i'd meant to do limit but goofed

[07:15] {Roman} SWHC short

[07:16] {bruce} any read mrvl vad?

[07:16] {esemde} if i get some help from NQ Vad i'll stay in...but i don't like the way it is trading so will probably take small profit and get out

[07:17] {Roman} VLNC

[07:17] {Roman} long off 2.4

[07:17] {Roman} 1/2

[07:18] {Threei} MRVL I'd orefer pullback closer to 18.60 to look for entry. Breakout buy at .85 only if stays above .70

[07:18] {Threei} use ASTI as leading indicator for it rathger than NQ ese

[07:18] {bruce} k- kind of looks like a long but volume on daily weaker hatn average

[07:18] {dino} abk stopped -.40

[07:19] {Roman} in VLNC

[07:20] {esemde} OK will do....

[07:20] {esemde} tks Vad

[07:21] {Roman} short SWHC 12.27 area

[07:21] {magoo} naz selling

[07:21] {esemde} price pattern looks same ASTI/ASTIZ

[07:22] {Threei} sure... ASTIZ is not independent stock, it's ASTI's warrant

[07:22] {esemde} ah ha....

[07:23] {Threei} [10:00] {Threei} ASTIZ is not moving on its own merits

[07:23] {Threei} :)

[07:23] {Threei} XMSR?

[07:24] {Roman} CNBC pump

[07:24] {Roman} SIRI & XMSR

[07:24] {Threei} OPEC SUMMIT COMMUNIQUE WILL NOT MENTION AN OIL OUTPUT INCREASE - WIRE HEADLINE CITING SOURCES

[07:24] {magoo} nvda stronger than qqqq today

[07:24] {magoo} holds the pullbk

[07:24] {Threei} good observation

[07:25] {Threei} salmon flavor to it today

[07:25] {Roman} out CSIQ -.08

[07:26] {esemde} out ASTIZ.. .-23

[07:26] {esemde} 1/2 lot thank goodness

[07:28] {esemde} ya win some....ya lose some....

[07:28] {Threei} sometimes you are bug, sometimes you are windshield

[07:28] {Roman} nice VAd

[07:29] {esemde} yep

[07:29] {esemde} What the first thing that goes through a bugs mind when \it hits the windheild?

[07:29] {magoo} whats last thing bug sees when hits windshield?

[07:29] {Threei} CPSL is still moving

[07:29] {esemde} it

[07:30] {magoo} his ass

[07:30] {esemde} it's rear end

[07:30] {esemde} ...mags were thinking alike this morning

[07:30] {Threei} I think I need help... I actually find it funny

[07:31] {Threei} my consolation is, magoo and ese do too

[07:31] {Threei} and one of them at least is sure to bring beer

[07:32] {magoo} i read your blog yesterday

[07:32] {esemde} that will be mags....i'm alergic to beer

[07:32] {Threei} so it's my fault

[07:32] {magoo} i liked the reference on magopo

[07:32] {esemde} bottle of wine....now thats a differnt story

[07:32] {magoo} u know, just "lucky" and "stops are skill" he he

[07:32] {Threei} hmmm... dino, magoo has mania grandiosa

[07:33] {Threei} or multiple personality disorder

[07:33] {Threei} he thinks he is you

[07:33] {Threei} ese... I am the best position then, I happily drink both

[07:33] {Threei} in the best

[07:33] {esemde} indeed.....i can vouch for that...

[07:35] {Threei} was tempted very much to call BRCM short and refrained... too bad

[07:40] {magoo} with mkt help nvda should take 38 3asy

[07:40] {dino} hl l wynn risky, .94

[07:40] {dino} .92

[07:43] {Threei} CALIFORNIA HOUSING MARKET IS IN A 'FREEFALL' - UBS CONF- says land options have helped reduce write-downs

[07:43] {dino} stopped .52, -.40

[07:44] {magoo} no mkt help today

[07:45] {magoo} look bidu vad

[07:45] {magoo} off of 429

[07:45] {Threei} yikes

[07:45] {magoo} like 31 pt swing

[07:45] {Threei} NVDA typical salmon today, you are right

[07:45] {magoo} in it too .78

[07:47] {magoo} out here .96

[07:48] {magoo} [10:41] {magoo} with mkt help nvda should take 38 3asy

[07:48] {magoo} didn't even get help

[07:49] {Threei} just a little

[07:49] {Threei} small NQ bounce pushed it

[07:49] {Threei} which is exactly the way salmon acts

[07:50] {dino} mbi hl s .25

[07:50] {Roman} cover 1/2 SWHC +.26

[07:55] {dino} cov mbi .01, +.24

[07:57] {Threei} amazing strength NVDA

[07:57] {dino} amazing smell magoo

[07:58] {Threei} .10 long half lot if stayus above 38

[07:58] {dino} grmn getting a bid

[07:58] {Threei} NQ is likely to stage decent bounce here

[07:59] {magoo} l brcm .20

[08:01] {magoo} l nvda

[08:01] {dino} boom

[08:03] {dino} divx cov .17, +.08, won't move

[08:03] {dino} .07

[08:04] {Roman} long SCON

[08:05] {Roman} 1/2 size

[08:05] {Threei} just wAnted to ask what's up with it

[08:05] {Roman} i don't see news, just SCON

[08:06] {Roman} the boyz want to pop it a bit

[08:06] {Roman} probably

[08:06] {dino} l hl ocnf .00

[08:06] {Roman} out VLNC +.20

[08:07] {Threei} wow VLNC

[08:07] {Threei} it has something to do with electrical cars I seem to remember vaguely?

[08:08] {Roman} just alternative energy play

[08:08] {Roman} that's what it is to me

[08:09] {dino} i think borat's car was alternate

[08:09] {Roman} nice!

[08:10] {magoo} that movie was retarded

[08:10] {magoo} can't believe it won awards

[08:10] {Threei} in the world where al gore wins them, mags

[08:10] {magoo} now VBLOOD DIAMOND was a great movie

[08:11] {magoo} anyone see it?

[08:11] {Roman} BORAT was excellent movie

[08:11] {Roman} u got to understand the humor, u americans don't get it

[08:11] {dino} lol rfr

[08:12] {Roman} i bet u like bevis and butthead whatever that was

[08:12] {magoo} blood diamon anyone?

[08:12] {hawkfan4} saw it mags, was great

[08:12] {dino} family guy, now thats funny

[08:12] {hawkfan4} but i also loved borat :)

[08:12] {Threei} hey, just don't say a word on Willy something on chocolate factory roman, that's untouchable

[08:12] {magoo} no more diamonds for mrs magoo..she pissed

[08:13] {Roman} yeah, that Blood Diamond was great, but it DID NOT MAKE ME HAPPY, i actually cried during the movie, so i prefer to watch movies that MAKE ME HAPPY

[08:13] {Roman} and BORAT : made me happy

[08:13] {Threei} cried eh

[08:13] {magoo} SHEESH

[08:13] {dino} a diamond, 'cause she'll have to....family guy

[08:13] {Roman} my wife is pregnant , so i am overly sensative

[08:13] {magoo} i cried in borat...couldn't take it

[08:13] {Threei} I remove myself from discussing anything with sensitive types {G}

[08:14] {magoo} was like that scene in clockwork orange

[08:14] {Threei} I end up offending everything they (sensitive types) hold dear

[08:15] {magoo} i find your room offensive...thats why i still in itr

[08:15] {ramvfin2003} big offers at 11 on scon

[08:15] {Threei} good 'cauxe I enjoy offending you

[08:15] {Chaeron} only thing offensive here is your typing magoo :)

[08:15] {Threei} lol

[08:15] {magoo} and your good at it too

[08:16] {magoo} chaer roflol

[08:16] {magoo} i missed on blood damond thee times

[08:16] {Threei} trying my best mags, trying my best :)

[08:16] {bruce} wynn still dumping dino

[08:16] {bruce} I saw blood diamond

[08:16] {bruce} good movie

[08:16] {dino} watching it bruce

[08:16] {bruce} hard to think of dicaprio as soldier of fortune though

[08:17] {bruce} terrible whatthey do to kids over there

[08:17] {dino} same thoughts here

[08:17] {magoo} he played role well

[08:17] {bruce} had nightmares after watching it

[08:17] {magoo} and van de kapp sponsoring wjhole thing...holding back supply

[08:18] {bruce} I think that happens for real mags

[08:18] {bruce} movie was pretty accurate

[08:18] {magoo} oh..i sure it does

[08:18] {Chaeron} that's why I only will buy Moisenite stoes instead of diamonds

[08:19] {Chaeron} stones

[08:19] {magoo} 11:13] {magoo} no more diamonds for mrs magoo..she pissed

[08:19] {bruce} good for her

[08:20] {bruce} get her fur coat instead!

[08:20] {magoo} i always felt bad abouit buying diamonds anyway...but now i REALLY feel bad

[08:20] {Chaeron} check out Moisenites magoo...

[08:20] {magoo} whats a mosquitoe got to do with it chaer??

[08:20] {bruce} buy canadian diamonds mags

[08:22] {dino} i don't buy them anymore, wife would rather put money into house

[08:22] {bruce} good plan

[08:22] {bruce} I'd do that too if I had any money

[08:24] {dino} grmn, didn't belve it

[08:26] {bruce} boom continues too dino

[08:27] {dino} wynn trig .75 imo

[08:27] {dino} yeah, i'm an idiot today, :)

[08:27] {bruce} k thanx

[08:27] {bruce} was thinking .6

[08:31] {bruce} brcm finally goes - poc

[08:32] {magoo} out brcm .46, + .26

[08:32] {bruce} nice mags

[08:32] {magoo} [11:00] {magoo} l brcm .20

[08:33] {magoo} took long time

[08:33] {bruce} saw your entry - couldn't read it one way or other myself

[08:34] {magoo} alot longer than i like..33 minutes

[08:34] {dino} ocnf stopped -.25

[08:35] {bruce} k - ithought you did some whole day trades mags

[08:35] {esemde} see you all tomorrow...have a great day...

[08:35] {magoo} WHAT???ask vad..i guessed pissed anytrhing over 3 minutes

[08:35] {Threei} take care ese

[08:35] {magoo} bye ES

[08:35] {Threei} magoo... concept of instant gratification spoils you

[08:35] {bruce} lol

[08:36] {Chaeron} buy ese

[08:36] {bruce} bye ese

[08:36] {Chaeron} oops bye ese

[08:36] {bruce} ese is for sale?

[08:36] {Chaeron} cheap

[08:36] {bruce} lol

[08:36] {bruce} does he scrub follrs?

[08:36] {bruce} floors

[08:36] {esemde} yes...

[08:36] {Chaeron} no but will give you and mags typing lessons

[08:36] {esemde} for sure...see ya

[08:37] {Threei} bruce, you have no idea what kind of abuse I take from magoo every time stock doesn't rewqard him in 1 minute or less

[08:37] {bruce} mags and I are teaching you guys new words

[08:37] {bruce} you sholuld be grateful

[08:37] {bruce} ah - no wonder you need to hide undr rock periodically vad

[08:38] {Threei} yep... that's the reason

[08:38] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[08:38] {Threei} see? and I even didn't call anything slow

[08:39] {bruce} lol

[08:39] {bruce} that was to make sure you're awake vad

[08:39] {Threei} am not

[08:39] {Threei} I find trading in comatose state much more rewarding

[08:40] {bruce} k

[08:40] {bruce} I thought it wasjust the glue you like to sniff

[08:41] {magoo} bruce dcc

[08:41] {Threei} I had to give that up... couldn't remember the brand

[08:41] {Threei} oh and bruce... don't believe anything magoo says about me in dcc

[08:42] {Threei} I do not drink 2 boxes of vodka a day

[08:42] {Threei} and I do not eat bottles after I am done with vodka

[08:48] {bruce} lol

[08:48] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[08:48] {bruce} mags says you don't work without regualr trouting

[08:49] {bruce} slaps 3i around with a very large trout

[08:49] {Threei} sigh

[08:49] {bruce} lol

[08:49] {bruce} don't do that

[08:50] {bruce} you'll have us feeling sorry for you

[08:50] {bruce} fwit - green again today vad

[08:50] {bruce} 4 days in row

[08:50] {bruce} scary

[08:50] {Threei} wtg

[08:50] {Threei} yeah, success is scary

[08:50] {bruce} nice rend

[08:51] {Threei} and btw... this is not a joke really

[08:51] {Threei} success does scare many

[08:52] {Threei} without even realizing it, they start sabotaging themselves

[08:52] {magoo} u know whars scary?

[08:52] {bruce} hope thats not me

[08:52] {dino} great job bruce

[08:52] {bruce} dino - wynn may be 5ready to reverse - thoguhts?

[08:52] {Threei} that won't be you if you understan d underlying mechanics of this phenomenon

[08:52] {magoo} vads pic on last blog he he

[08:52] {Threei} lol

[08:52] {Threei} think of why people do that

[08:53] {dino} yeah, but no market help, so laying off for now

[08:53] {magoo} mkt help starting now

[08:53] {bruce} k - thanx dino

[08:53] {dino} oopps

[08:53] {Threei} losing, however starnge it sounds, invokes feeling of being in the zone of psychological comfort in many,

[08:54] {dino} maybe now bruce]

[08:54] {bruce} hmmm- well losing doesn't do that for me

[08:54] {dino} mkt starting up

[08:54] {bruce} but understand what you are sayong

[08:54] {Threei} giving them opportunity to complain and to avoid responsibility for what happens to them

[08:54] {magoo} how smart are u vad really...alot of human psocholy u post

[08:54] {Threei} Success leaves thenm on the front edge

[08:54] {Threei} and this is position in which you are responsible,

[08:55] {Threei} alone

[08:55] {Threei} not everyone is comfortable with open naked self-repsonsibility

[08:55] {dino} i agree w/you vad, some think its easier to lose and blame others

[08:55] {Threei} exactly

[08:56] {dino} hear it every day

[08:56] {dino} so bruce, think.... being poor sucks, staying poor is stupid

[08:56] {dino} frpt

[08:57] {Threei} in a wierrd way, this discussion of particular case of trading psychology goes into the deep roots of raw capitalism vs pink socialism

[08:57] {Threei} why doesn't socialism work?

[08:57] {bruce} in wynn .28 dino

[08:57] {Threei} 'cause, among other things, it instills in people this "state will take care of me"

[08:57] {bruce} its grat in theory

[08:58] {bruce} agreed - destroys personal initiative

[08:58] {Threei} right

[08:58] {bruce} and stifles creativity

[08:58] {dino} bingo

[08:58] {bruce} go wynn

[08:58] {Threei} in trading as in no other field of activity, your actions directly cause the results

[08:58] {magoo} ok, my input

[08:58] {dino} vad is one deep cookie

[08:58] {bruce} my youngsest is socialist

[08:58] {bruce} wants to start own political party

[08:58] {dino} ugh

[08:58] {dino} lol

[08:59] {Threei} me, deep? if you call philosophy "tree good, fire bad" deep, then yes {G}

[08:59] {magoo} u put out birdfeedr...birds come..then too many come...start making mess...eating way too much

[08:59] {dino} in america we say...everyones' a libral, until the get a mortgage

[08:59] {Threei} lol

[08:59] {magoo} building nests allover...then nasty ravems come..sqwack all nite..dive bomb u...

[09:00] {Threei} if anything is ever going to kill this country, it will be bleeding hearts and political correctness

[09:00] {dino} same here

[09:00] {magoo} so, tear dsown the feeder, clean up doo doo..tear down nests and restore your comfort

[09:00] {magoo} apply to welfare

[09:01] {magoo} give them food stamps...free housing...next thing they overcrowd home...

[09:01] {Threei} I like that Roman is politically incorrect since he likes Borat... but his crying in the movies made me suspect he has a case of bleeding heart riping in him

[09:01] {magoo} buy drugs...crime increases..and you have mess

[09:01] {Threei} yeah... it calls enabling

[09:02] {Threei} safe injection sites?

[09:02] {Threei} sigh

[09:02] {bruce} stopped wynn - 30c

[09:03] {Threei} so... now that we established that trading is a frontier of raw capitalism, its last stronghold... I want to find a trade

[09:03] {Threei} market lost the beat somewhat, no rythm last hour or so

[09:04] {Threei} so I went silent... but watching for something to shape up

[09:04] {bruce} they're really payingprice in russia vad seems like

[09:05] {bruce} may be another generation before most people start helpingthemselves

[09:05] {Threei} I haven't been there since 1996... my judgement is probably getting outdated

[09:06] {bruce} people giving puting way to much power

[09:06] {bruce} bad sign

[09:06] {bruce} HEY VAD -

[09:07] {bruce} find us a trade

[09:07] {dino} penx

[09:08] {Threei} giving?

[09:09] {Threei} as if anyone asked them

[09:09] {bruce} drat - there goes wynn

[09:09] {dino} you know, picleloaf is an under-rated lunch meat

[09:09] {dino} pickle

[09:09] {Threei} lol

[09:12] {magoo} getting hungry listening to dino rant about the advantages of pickle loaf iover balogna

[09:12] {bruce} spam anyone?

[09:12] {dino} i like that too

[09:13] {dino} abax

[09:14] {Roman} PLU

[09:14] {Roman} PLUG

[09:15] {dino} wynn waking

[09:16] {bruce} yes -

[09:16] {Roman} long BLDP

[09:16] {Roman} 1/3

[09:18] {dino} l wynn .75 hl

[09:20] {dino} out .27, +.52

[09:21] {bruce} nice dino

[09:21] {bruce} my .65 ofer wasn't taken

[09:21] {Roman} JASO

[09:21] {bruce} bid rather

[09:22] {bruce} amzn

[09:22] {dino} i'd like to see it take 141.50

[09:26] {Roman} long CSIQ

[09:26] {Roman} 1/2

[09:27] {dino} abax hl s .02

[09:30] {dino} cov .60, +.42

[09:36] {dino} no takers i see

[09:36] {Threei} we hate so much profit in such short time

[09:36] {Threei} we like struiggle

[09:36] {bruce} I tried at .03 dino

[09:37] {dino} ok, i see how it is........

[09:37] {bruce} didn't get in - only doing limit order entys on those trades

[09:40] {dino} bustin' ya

[09:40] {bruce} possible higher low forming in wynn

[09:41] {dino} needs the higher high to confirm, imo

[09:42] {bruce} entry about 141.5?

[09:42] {dino} i like it, brb tho

[09:47] {bruce} you like struggle vad?

[09:47] {bruce} no wonder mags keeps trouting you

[09:47] {bruce} spoken like true bolshevik

[09:47] {Threei} lol

[09:48] {bruce} lol

[09:50] {dino} midd

[09:50] {magoo} trout????

[09:50] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[09:50] {Threei} lol dino

[09:50] {Threei} just typed "MIDD dino"

[09:50] {dino} midd stock i mean

[09:50] {dino} ohhh

[09:51] {Threei} I am becoming trout-numb, magoo

[09:51] {dino} cap'n cavm drops

[09:56] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[09:58] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[09:58] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[09:58] {Threei} abuse I take...

[09:59] {bruce} now you have reason to feel numb vad

[09:59] {dino} l hl wynn .75

[10:00] {magoo} l hl wynn .64

[10:01] {magoo} dino knows this

[10:01] {magoo} yelled to hium

[10:03] {dino} stop to .97

[10:03] {magoo} also yelled btring me my lunch

[10:05] {dino} algt

[10:05] {magoo} i sucjh a tretard

[10:06] {magoo} just learned after 3 yrs that if double click on pending order it canx instead of cancelling all

[10:06] {magoo} he he

[10:07] {magoo} did u know this feature vad?

[10:07] {dino} stop to .15

[10:08] {Threei} lol

[10:08] {Threei} you are kidding mags

[10:08] {magoo} sadly no..was canx all and reentering the keepes

[10:08] {magoo} SIFHGH

[10:09] {dino} out wynn .16, +.41

[10:09] {Chaeron} nice dino

[10:09] {dino} thx, lucky entry

[10:11] {magoo} waiting .67

[10:12] {magoo} kickin kickin

[10:13] {Roman} watching DSTI

[10:15] {dino} dxpe

[10:18] {magoo} wynn fighting magoo all the way

[10:18] {magoo} dangling bannanas

[10:19] {Threei} grrr

[10:19] {Threei} ESLR sneaked up on me again

[10:20] {magoo} me too..was watchin it earlier'

[10:21] {Threei} I thought of using 12.80 as support level for entry but it looked so dead

[10:22] *** Disconnected

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Session Start: Tue Nov 06 10:24:36 2007

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[10:24] {magoo} ARGGGGGGGGgtorture

[10:25] {magoo} WYNN c,mon

[10:25] {magoo} .67

[10:25] {magoo} room push paleasssssse

[10:26] {dino} l hl wynn .54

[10:26] {magoo} i woulda sold ya mine

[10:26] {Roman} CSIQ coming back

[10:27] {Roman} got some at .25 area

[10:29] {magoo} out .40 here

[10:30] {magoo} + .76

[10:30] {magoo} hl

[10:30] {dino} gj

[10:30] {patience} no kidding

[10:31] {dino} gmcr

[10:31] {magoo} [12:59] {dino} l hl wynn .75

[10:31] {magoo} [13:01] {magoo} l hl wynn .64

[10:31] {magoo} [13:01] {magoo} dino knows this

[10:31] {magoo} [13:01] {magoo} yelled to hium

[10:31] {magoo} [13:04] {dino} stop to .97

[10:31] {magoo} [13:04] {magoo} also yelled btring me my lunch

[10:32] {magoo} still waitin on lunch

[10:32] {dino} gmcr hl l .70

[10:33] {Threei} VLNC may still be scalpable on .60 break

[10:34] {bruce} in gmcr

[10:36] {Roman} short PAAS

[10:36] {Roman} 36.16, 1/3

[10:39] {Roman} PLUG going

[10:39] {Roman} in swing

[10:41] {dino} gmcr stopped .53-.17

[10:41] {bruce} stopped gmcr

[10:41] {Roman} anyone like URRE

[10:41] {Roman} ?

[10:42] {bruce} same . 53

[10:42] {Threei} looked at it several times roman

[10:42] {Threei} wild trader

[10:42] {dino} sorry bruce

[10:42] {magoo} no read rfr

[10:43] {magoo} i like nvvda long here..risky

[10:43] {Roman} i say it goes to $14.25

[10:43] {bruce} thanks dino - but doesn't matter - some wok some dont

[10:43] {magoo} level 2 picking up on it vad

[10:44] {Roman} out PAAS

[10:45] {magoo} put your $$ where mouth is roman lol

[10:45] {magoo} on urre

[10:45] {Threei} VNLC broke

[10:45] {magoo} missed while harrassing rfr vad

[10:45] {Roman} u want me to buy the float magoo?

[10:47] {magoo} u in it??

[10:48] {Roman} very small, its one of those too easy looking

[10:48] {Roman} i don't believe in too easy looking

[10:49] {magoo} there she blowsssss

[10:49] {magoo} nice alert from .70 area

[10:50] {Roman} FALK strong

[10:50] {Roman} RATE strong

[10:50] {Roman} both sqeezable

[10:50] {Roman} BOOM

[10:50] {Roman} long small

[10:50] {Roman} super small

[10:52] {magoo} symbol FALK?

[10:54] {Roman} out URRE

[10:54] {Roman} _.45

[10:55] {magoo} nice

[10:57] {Roman} the correct symbol is FALC

[10:57] {Roman} sorry

[10:59] {dino} stopped wynn .00 -.54

[11:00] {bruce} me to

[11:00] {bruce} rats

[11:00] {bruce} back to red

[11:01] {dino} same

[11:01] {Roman} dino, just short FSLR

[11:01] {Roman} get $5 and be done wit it

[11:02] {dino} lol

[11:02] {bruce} sounds good roman

[11:02] {Roman} i think we are near the top, i will short for fun 50 shares

[11:02] {bruce} you guaranteeing that $5?

[11:03] {Roman} NOPE

[11:03] {bruce} lol

[11:03] {bruce} damn

[11:03] {bruce} takinga break

[11:03] {bruce} back in 30

[11:05] {dino} theres $1

[11:07] {dino} mbi hl s .95

[11:07] {dino} thers 2

[11:09] {Roman} GYMB close to top

[11:09] {Roman} looking to short small 31.07

[11:11] {Roman} moved to 31.12

[11:11] {Roman} in

[11:18] {Roman} FALC high

[11:20] {Roman} covered my 50 shares of FSLR

[11:20] {Roman} party time

[11:20] {dino} cov mbi .70, +.35

[11:21] {dino} ohhh mannn way too soon

[11:21] {dino} gj

[11:22] {dino} wynn big rinse

[11:25] {dino} bucy

[11:29] {Roman} out CSIQ

[11:32] {dino} .25 mbi, mistake

[11:34] {dino} wynn last try, trig l .50

[11:36] {Roman} cover GYMB +.20

[11:36] {dino} penx hl l .75

[11:51] {Threei} 2.65 break is probably another trigger for VLNC

[11:51] {Threei} in any case it looks far from done

[11:51] {Threei} holding too well close to high

[11:59] {Roman} PRGO vad?

[11:59] {Threei} toughie...

[11:59] {Roman} ESLR high

[12:00] {bruce} prgo sounds like name for a spaghetti sauce

[12:00] {dino} back in 10

[12:01] {Threei} come on VLNC, break

[12:02] {dino} out penx .06, +.31

[12:14] {magoo} vad u in that?

[12:14] {Threei} yeah

[12:14] {magoo} how many shares/

[12:14] {magoo} ?

[12:14] {Threei} 2x

[12:15] {Threei} it may deserve more but I kept myself back because if it stays in this range I may want to hold overnight

[12:15] {magoo} .65? or .66

[12:15] {Threei} .65

[12:15] {magoo} i in .66

[12:15] {magoo} ESLR

[12:15] {magoo} dammit

[12:17] {magoo} vad nvda read?

[12:17] {magoo} WOW just caufght .80

[12:18] {Threei} can't give aread into siuch vertical spike

[12:18] {magoo} oh sure u can

[12:23] {bruce} hes being stubborn mags - asking to be routed

[12:23] {bruce} trouted

[12:23] {magoo} give it to him bruce

[12:24] {bruce} slaps vad around w a large trout!

[12:25] {bruce} bam

[12:25] {bruce} bling

[12:25] {bruce} bong

[12:25] {bruce} ouch!!!

[12:25] {magoo} bruce left click his name on right to highlite it

[12:25] {Threei} I always knew binge drinking is not a very good idea {G}

[12:25] {bruce} you like sound effects mags?

[12:25] {magoo} then right clivck itr..pop up slap

[12:26] * bruce slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout

[12:26] * magoo slaps Chaeron around a bit with a large trout

[12:26] {magoo} not me

[12:26] {bruce} lol

[12:26] {bruce} n

[12:27] * dino slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout

[12:27] {bruce} \never realized there was a slap command

[12:27] {bruce} wonders never cease

[12:28] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout

[12:28] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout

[12:28] * Chaeron slaps magoo around a bit with a large trout

[12:28] {Chaeron} suck fish egss Magster

[12:28] {magoo} sigh

[12:28] {dino} wow

[12:29] {dino} chaeron a bit uptight

[12:29] {Chaeron} yeah? and that's different how??? :))

[12:29] {dino} i usually just throw something at him

[12:31] {dino} wynn stop to .80

[12:31] {Chaeron} well... I'm outta here... can't wait to see you all tomorrow. Yes, especially you magoo... Hope raven's ok.. kinda quiet lately

[12:32] {dino} out slippage .75 ave, +.25

[12:32] {magoo} out VLNC

[12:32] {dino} that wynn is tough today

[12:35] {dino} star

[12:35] {Threei} reentered VLNC .52

[12:35] {Threei} but for scalp only

[12:35] {Threei} don't like such behavior

[12:36] {Roman} long SATC small alternative energy

[12:36] {Roman} swing

[12:37] {Raven} {----- observing the chaos

[12:37] {magoo} read BRCM vad?

[12:38] {Threei} if holding .40 and NQ spikes, worth scalp try

[12:38] {Threei} if losing .40, no read

[12:43] {Threei} if you got .42 with 3 cents stop, it's 1:3

[12:44] {magoo} in .41 looking for 100 bux

[12:49] {Threei} out VLNC .60

[12:51] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout

[12:52] {Threei} hmm?

[12:53] {dino} abax hl s .49

[12:53] {magoo} i lost on first try

[12:58] {Threei} nice finish

[12:58] {magoo} out .50

[12:59] {bruce} tough day

[13:00] {dino} sh#t, stuck wabax short

[13:00] {bruce} see you guys friday

[13:00] {magoo} i up...but it was hard work

[13:00] {dino} toughy here too, up tho

[13:00] {bruce} good to hear dino

[13:00] {Threei} thank you all, have a good evening

[13:00] {dino} yesterday much easier

[13:00] {dptl} have a good evening all...see ya tomorrow :)

[13:00] {Threei} see you tomorrow

[13:01] {bruce} out for next 2 days so see you guys friday

[13:01] {bruce} take care all

[13:02] {dino} take care bruce, 4 in a row, great job

[13:06] {magoo} bye everybody

November 5, 2007

Session Start: Mon Nov 05 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Mon Nov 05 00:00:00 2007

[05:38] {bruce} mornig rt
[05:41] {Threei} good morning
[05:42] {hawkfan4} good morning vad, all
[05:42] {Threei} hawk :)
[05:42] {magoo} morning
[05:43] {Threei} magoo :)
[05:44] {Threei} BEAS saga continues
[05:44] {Threei} ENTERS INTO NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT WITH CARL ICAHN TO PROVIDE CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS INFORMATION SUPPORTING VALUATION OF BEA
[05:48] {dptl} good morning all
[05:48] {Threei} dp :)
[05:49] {bruce} hi pd , mags
[05:53] {esemde} GM bruce cos dp hawkjm mags.....
[05:53] {esemde} andddddd.....Vad
[05:53] {Threei} ese :)
[05:54] {esemde} haven't seen the futures yet ....market tanking again?
[05:54] {Threei} -19.50 NQ
[05:54] {bruce} hi ese
[05:57] {cosmo} BLDP pre mkt high = 5.70 fwiw
[05:59] {cosmo} IRBT
[05:59] {cosmo} ...for halloween :)
[06:00] {Threei} Systems Inc BMO Capital suggest PLUG/WMT news a positive for Co.
[06:00] {Threei} - From what we understand, Plug/Cellex GenDrive systems use PEM stacks supplied by Ballard Power, so although this transaction is being deemed as a "proving ground", it is promising that Wal-Mart has apparently decided to initiate another testing phase of the fuel cell powered lift trucks. Although the number of Plug/Cellex systems ordered are likely small, the deal represents another potentially positive development for the near-term comme
[06:01] {cosmo} comme?
[06:01] {Threei} I don't know if it's time yet but BLDP should have something in it sooner or later
[06:02] {Threei} it's too "green" technology to stay out of focus forever
[06:02] {Threei} and it had a history of huge runs
[06:02] {Threei} I remember it around 80 when it got first attention
[06:03] {cosmo} VOLT
[06:03] {Threei} of course it was when stocks running from 2 to 80 were rather norm :)
[06:03] {Threei} 07:30am [VOLT] Reports Q3 $0.04 v -$0.05e; R $15.5M v $12.5Me
[06:04] {cosmo} 2 to 80 overnite, usually
[06:04] {Threei} ENDM? :)
[06:04] {Threei} from 12 actually
[06:04] {Threei} ENMD sorry
[06:05] {cosmo} my favorite was NSCP
[06:06] {cosmo} on the buy out
[06:06] {Threei} NSCP and IOM were first signals of what was coming I guess... then KTEL came
[06:07] {Threei} and things went crazy :)
[06:07] {cosmo} then TSATA...
[06:07] {Threei} lol
[06:07] {cosmo} :)
[06:09] {magoo} u think well ever see that crazy again vad??
[06:09] {Threei} who knows... if we do I intend to get indecently rich inone year
[06:10] {Threei} unless USD cheapens at the sdame rate as stocks go up of course :)
[06:11] {Threei} there are some limiting factors now that didn't exist back then
[06:11] {Threei} one of them is decimals vs fractions
[06:11] {Threei} volatility was much higher with fractions
[06:11] {Threei} but when the real bull frenzy hits nothing matters
[06:12] {bruce} don't know if we'll see a frenzy like haqt again ion our lifetime vad
[06:12] {Threei} I hear sometimes that it can't happen anymore because public already saw bubble/burts cycle
[06:12] {Threei} but I don't buy this argument
[06:13] {bruce} ind of like the tulip craze
[06:13] {dino} gm all
[06:13] {Threei} after all, despite "seeing it already", didn't real estate bubble came right on the heels of tech one
[06:13] {Threei} dino :)
[06:14] {bruce} hey dino
[06:15] {bruce} true vad - but re bubble was "small" compared with internet frnzy
[06:15] {Threei} and if read Populare Delusions and Crowd Madness... didn't we have similar bubbles throughout entire history
[06:15] {bruce} we'llo have more bulls - don't think w'll see a 0 yr un though
[06:15] {esemde} dino
[06:15] {dino} morn' ese, bruce, vad
[06:16] {bruce} 10 yr - geesh tyuping is awful this am
[06:16] {Threei} the more things change...
[06:17] {bruce} euphoria and panic here to stay for sure - look at china
[06:17] {Threei} of course
[06:17] {Threei} tape reading principles are as true today as they were at Jesse Livermore times
[06:17] {Threei} there is a good reason for that
[06:18] {Threei} be back in 5
[06:25] {Threei} let's watch if BLDP holds above 5.50
[06:26] {cosmo} gee.. it must have heard you
[06:26] {esemde} i'm with you on BLDP
[06:27] {Threei} just need it to go back up after open and establish this new support
[06:27] {Threei} and watch for signs of momo
[06:28] {Threei} 5.22 is Friday high
[06:30] {bruce} drys
[06:31] {dino} bsmd?
[06:32] {dino} s bsmd 6.18, hl
[06:32] {Threei} ASTI small shares .25 long if holding 20
[06:33] {Threei} BLDP some buying
[06:33] {Threei} still on watch, no entry
[06:34] {bruce} wynn dino
[06:34] {dino} cov bsmd .60, +.58
[06:35] {Threei} .61 long BLDP
[06:35] {Threei} .49 stop
[06:36] {Threei} ASTI over 1:1
[06:36] {Threei} half out at least
[06:37] {dino} wynn not sure
[06:37] {Threei} 1:4 ASTI
[06:37] {Threei} out
[06:37] {dino} most likely up if mkt helps imo
[06:40] {Threei} BLDP is not a scalp to me, will partial and try to milk it
[06:43] {Threei} WIND
[06:43] {Threei} TICKS HIGHER ON CHATTER THE CO. HAS BEEN SELECTED BY GOOGLE FOR WIRELESS SOFTWARE
[06:44] {Roman} SOHU
[06:46] {Threei} half out BLDP into spike after .75 break
[06:47] {Roman} long ESLR
[06:47] {Roman} 12.30
[06:48] {magoo} out half .79 vad TY
[06:48] {Threei} .79 too
[06:48] {Threei} welcome
[06:48] {Threei} stop .59'
[06:48] {dino} gj
[06:52] {Threei} offering 1/4 more .91
[06:52] {magoo} lol...i at 89
[06:53] {Threei} I am greedier by 2 cents
[06:56] {Threei} perfect antry ESLR Roman
[06:56] {Threei} entry too
[06:58] {Threei} do we want too much from BLDP...
[06:58] {magoo} out .81
[06:58] {Roman} out ESLR
[06:58] {Roman} ty vad
[06:59] {Roman} watching SOLF & CSIQ solars with ESLR
[06:59] {dino} wynn hl l .12, risky
[07:01] {dino} s hl mtg .88
[07:05] {dino} wynn stopped -.46
[07:07] {dino} wynn l hl .00
[07:07] {Threei} hit .91 BLDP
[07:07] {Threei} last portion stiop to 5.65
[07:08] {dino} out wynn .26, +.26
[07:08] {magoo} nice read vad
[07:08] {esemde} bstop IMMR 17.18......in .20
[07:13] {dino} cov mtg .68, +.20
[07:13] {dino} too soon
[07:15] {esemde} out IMMR .30 +.10 HAVE TO ANSWER THE PHONE ARGHHHHHH
[07:15] {Threei} rip off that corsd
[07:15] {Roman} GIGM weak
[07:15] {Roman} possible short
[07:21] {bruce} vrtx dino
[07:23] {dino} bucy
[07:24] {dino} vrtx? dk
[07:25] {dino} you had it bruce
[07:25] {esemde} LLNW? If it breaks .80
[07:26] {bruce} yes - went l vrtx
[07:26] {bruce} 20 c
[07:26] {bruce} should have taken more
[07:26] {Threei} quite thin ese
[07:26] {Threei} looking at level 2 I'd think you'll be luck to get your fill at .85
[07:27] {dino} gj
[07:27] {bruce} thanx dino
[07:27] {esemde} true....
[07:27] {esemde} will rethink
[07:28] {Threei} YHOO
[07:28] {Threei} ALIBABA.COM PLANS TO EXPAND INTO TAIWAN, INDIA, JAPAN AND HONG KONG - WIRE
[07:29] {Roman} TGIC spike
[07:30] {dino} wynn l hl .60
[07:30] {magoo} vad, triple top q?
[07:31] {dino} out .24, +.64
[07:31] {Threei} no read either way magoo
[07:32] {dino} risky, hl s bucy .55
[07:37] {dino} bucy bstop to .31
[07:37] {Threei} QID short with tight stop
[07:38] {Threei} .11
[07:38] {dino} to .26
[07:38] {dino} cov +.24 slippage
[07:39] {dino} vrtx was a great call bruce
[07:40] {bruce} thanx dino - just lucky
[07:41] {dino} thats part of the game, great spot on that and wynn
[07:41] {Roman} DSTI watching off 5 but reall needs to break 6 to play
[07:41] {esemde} LLNW ...there she blows
[07:42] {dino} bucy spikes again
[07:42] {Roman} SOHU long setup
[07:42] {Roman} long super small .50 area
[07:42] {Threei} what's with ENMD
[07:42] {Threei} I don't see any news
[07:42] {Threei} 1:1 QID
[07:43] {Threei} should give more
[07:43] {bruce} fast mover bucy - prefer to see it around 25 before shortling
[07:44] {bruce} 85 raterh
[07:45] {ramvfin2003} SCON nice bounce of LOD
[07:46] {Threei} RIMM ready to bust 131 it seems
[07:46] {Threei} not my cup of tea exactly
[07:46] {Threei} will stay away personally, see if you like it
[07:47] {dptl} cwst?
[07:47] {Roman} watching some chine plays for to play
[07:47] {Roman} CNTF, KONG , etc
[07:48] {Threei} not sure dp
[07:48] {Threei} 131 ding
[07:49] {Threei} 1:2.5 QID
[07:49] {Threei} me out
[07:49] {Threei} +.26
[07:50] {Threei} that's 3:3 so far today not counting RIMM
[07:51] {Threei} any takers or noone pays attention to me but magoo?? {G}
[07:51] {dino} mtg s hl .35
[07:51] {Threei} {--- looking for excuse to go sleep
[07:52] {Threei} CROX
[07:52] {Threei} HEARING TAKEOVER CHATTER CIRCULATING- Nike rumored as a potential acquirer
[07:53] {Threei} Roman... any DSTI insight?
[07:53] {bruce} you're hiting on all cylinders today vad
[07:53] {Roman} not really until it breaks $6, very unreliable
[07:54] {Threei} ty
[07:54] {Roman} CHNR
[07:54] {Threei} yean bruce but does anyone care? noooo....
[07:55] {Threei} BLDP, hard to tell if this thing has more in it for today,
[07:55] {Threei} if you like it, here is the way to try it:
[07:55] {Threei} if it stays above .80, .92 long trigger,
[07:55] {Threei} .79 stop,
[07:56] {Threei} be ready to get stopped and try it again if it sets up again
[07:56] {Threei} it's in a twilight zone
[07:56] {Threei} maybe catching momo finally, maybe wilts and dies
[07:56] {Threei} both are equally probable at this point,
[07:56] {Roman} looks like the boyz really like NTES
[07:57] {Threei} but if it starts working for real, move is going to be sizeable
[07:57] {Threei} while stop is failry tight
[07:58] {Threei} if loses .80 before triggering, let it go, wait for it to return in the consolidation range and spend some time in it
[07:58] {Threei} don't buy sharp spike into resistance
[08:02] {Threei} 12PM CONF CALL TO DISCUSS MOBILE SOFTWARE- Google, T-Mobile, HTC, Qualcomm and Motorola to Discuss New Open Platform for Mobile Devices
[08:03] {esemde} LLNW was interesting to watch.....still is
[08:03] {Threei} tough one
[08:03] {Threei} you haven't tried it as it broke .80?
[08:05] {Threei} ESLR probably becomes interesting again closer to 12.40
[08:05] {esemde} no....thought about a half lot when it was back .70
[08:06] {esemde} have a bstop in at 18.90 for IRBT though
[08:10] {Threei} look who woke up... LOCM
[08:12] {Threei} morning was aurprizingly easy and stress-free for a monday
[08:13] {Threei} no clear plays at the moment, not pushing it
[08:13] {Threei} letting it come to us naturally
[08:14] {Threei} IACI dino
[08:14] {Threei} CEO: REACHED DEAL WITH GOOGLE FOR 5 YAR FOR SPONSORED LISTINGS
[08:18] {dino} missed it
[08:29] {Threei} for adrenalin-deprived: AAPL pulback into 188 is a level to watch for long entry
[08:29] {magoo} OY
[08:30] {Threei} at 186 I'd buy not even looking
[08:30] {Threei} feel any adrenalin deprivation mags?
[08:31] {magoo} depends on qqqq here
[08:31] {Threei} WAVE
[08:31] {Threei} STRENGTH ATTRIBUTED TO CHATTER CO. MAY BE INCLUDING IN GOOGLE PHONE SOFTWARE
[08:31] {Threei} watch for all kinds of "me-toos" on this GPhone thing
[08:32] {dino} tmcv
[08:35] {Threei} (VZ) VENEZUELAN OIL MINISTER REITERATES OPEC DOES NOT NEED TO RAISE PRODUCTION
[08:36] {Threei} of course not, he sees oil at 200 in his wet dreams
[08:36] {dino} mtg stopped -.35
[08:37] {magoo} vad, see q? rolls over and aapl rolls
[08:37] {Threei} 1 buck AAPL selling on NQ 3 points downtick?
[08:38] {Threei} that's some correlation
[08:55] {dino} hl l egle .40
[08:58] {Threei} anyone went long ESLR off .40?
[08:59] {magoo} forgot it watching otheres
[08:59] {Threei} just a scalp anyway
[09:00] {Threei} but could become a player again on .60 break
[09:00] {Threei} it likes deep pullbacks and big comebacks
[09:01] {bruce} l egle .31
[09:01] {Threei} stop .49 if breaks
[09:03] {Threei} big offers seem to be a fake
[09:08] {Threei} NQ fast selling
[09:10] {magoo} news?
[09:10] {Threei} nothing fresh
[09:10] {bruce} out egle
[09:11] {esemde} IRBT filled .86.....bout as patient as i've ever been
[09:12] {dino} drys blood
[09:17] {dino} risky, l drys .75
[09:19] {dino} lnop drop
[09:22] {dino} egle stopped -.22
[09:24] {dino} out drys .50, +.75
[09:25] {Threei} hmmm
[09:25] {Threei} CBC reporting BLDP is trying to sell its fuel cells division
[09:26] {Threei} as related to cars
[09:26] {bruce} nice trade drys dino
[09:26] {Threei} wants to re-focus on forklifts and power generation
[09:26] {dino} thx
[09:30] {Threei} why is VLNC happy?
[09:31] {Threei} not that I mind, I am glad to see happiness... just thought maybe we could partake
[09:32] {Threei} QCOM ON GOOGLE CONF CALL SAYS IT HAS INVESTED SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES ON ANDROID
[09:32] {Threei} - GOOG says mobile system software kit to handset developers in one week, says handsets based on its 'android' software to appear in second half of 2008
[09:40] {esemde} signing off ladies and gents....see ya tomorrow
[09:41] {magoo} bye ES
[09:41] {esemde} see ya magoo
[09:41] {patience} gorgeous day outside ese, enjoy
[09:41] {Threei} take care ese
[09:41] {esemde} will do am bike riding to school
[09:48] {bruce} bye ese
[09:49] {bruce} enjoy the ride!
[09:56] {bruce} sitting here enjoying a sandwich
[09:56] {bruce} while dog looks on and drools on me
[09:56] {bruce} nothing like working from home!
[10:01] {Threei} hmmm... sounds nice
[10:01] {Threei} I should try that
[10:01] {Threei} wait... I AM home
[10:02] {bruce} lol vad
[10:02] {bruce} thats what you get for sleepng an extra hour today
[10:02] {Threei} yeah right
[10:03] {Threei} I missed announcement
[10:03] {Threei} and woke up too eaarly yesterday
[10:03] {Threei} I need to pay attention to the world around me...
[10:03] {bruce} theres a world beyond trading?
[10:04] {Threei} there is something called trading?
[10:04] {bruce} eh - did you type something?
[10:04] {bruce} cant focus thes ee eyes
[10:04] {Threei} oh, you mean this thingy when you push buttons and money flow into your account for some wierd reason
[10:05] {Threei} I always wondered if there was a name for it
[10:05] {bruce} ah the money flow thing
[10:05] {bruce} all the non traders call it NOT workin vad
[10:06] {Threei} market better wake up soon, or we will lose our minds
[10:06] {Threei} (providing there is much to lose of course)
[10:07] {Threei} they don't get it bruce... you actually have to tell buy button from sell button... of course it's work
[10:08] {bruce} oh - nowonder I'm gettingmessed around
[10:09] {bruce} I thought you just counted to 10and pushed alternate buttons
[10:14] {Threei} that's about sums it up
[10:15] {Threei} QID .16 long
[10:16] {Threei} stop 34.99
[10:16] {Threei} just a scalp
[10:17] {magoo} meaning u think naz falling
[10:18] {Threei} NQ breakdown of 2210 is short trigger, matches .16 long on QID, yes
[10:18] {magoo} ok..wanted to be sure i understood thought
[10:22] {Threei} MRVL UPDATE: CONFIRMS IT HAS JOINED THE OPEN HANDSET ALLIANCE
[10:31] {magoo} u watching AAPL vad?
[10:32] {Threei} no... should I?
[10:36] {Threei} stop to .09 QID
[10:37] {Threei} 1:1
[10:37] {Threei} me out
[10:37] {Threei} 4/5
[10:38] {Threei} I'd call it a good monday
[10:40] {dino} hl l dwsn .63
[10:41] {Threei} I wonder... does anyone actually pay any attention? aside of magoo and bruce?
[10:41] {hawkfan4} i got qid vad, thanks :)
[10:41] {Threei} no thank YOU
[10:42] {hawkfan4} lol
[10:42] {magoo} i hrere
[10:42] {Threei} I sometimes get a feeling I am yeling in the middle of a desert :)
[10:43] {Threei} scaring scorpions away
[10:45] {Threei} {Scorpions} yeah, shut up, don't get in the way of our sleep
[10:46] {magoo} i take modst of them
[10:46] {magoo} your calls
[10:46] {magoo} keep up good work
[10:46] {bruce} what - you mean magooo and I don't count?
[10:46] {Threei} I know magoo... that's why I said "aside of" :)
[10:47] {Threei} no, I just know you two do pay attention
[10:47] {Threei} but yeah, if you insist... you don't count {G}
[10:47] {bruce} k
[10:47] {bruce} feel better now
[10:47] {Threei} you know you just walked into that one, right
[10:47] {bruce} you bet
[10:47] {Threei} so bruce tell me
[10:47] {bruce} oh oh -
[10:48] {Threei} you continue your winning streak today?
[10:48] {bruce} here it comres
[10:48] {Threei} nah
[10:48] {bruce} ah
[10:48] {bruce} yup
[10:48] {Threei} I am too lazy for anything longer than 1 liners on Monday
[10:48] {bruce} ahead on day
[10:48] {Threei} cool beans
[10:48] {bruce} very very nice start to week
[10:48] {Threei} and to month
[10:48] {bruce} yep
[10:48] {bruce} green all of nov
[10:48] {Threei} 3 winning days in a row, you wanted turnaround
[10:48] {bruce} down for oct though
[10:49] {Threei} here it comes
[10:49] {bruce} hope so
[10:49] {bruce} learning from all you guys
[10:49] {Threei} otherwise it wouldn't be turnaround, right?
[10:49] {Threei} critical mass should me reached...
[10:49] {Threei} me = be
[10:49] {Threei} just don't get sloppy
[10:49] {dino} gj bruce
[10:49] {Threei} reread this one:
[10:50] {bruce} too early to tell - but moving in right direction so far for nov
[10:50] {Threei} http://www.realitytrader.com/blog/2007/09/costly-hiccups-do-you-have-any.html
[10:51] {Threei} {bruce} re-read? you mean I was supposed to read it earlier?
[10:51] {bruce} I have lots of those vad
[10:51] {bruce} but not like you describe
[10:51] {bruce} I keep stops
[10:51] {bruce} more like most winning days will be maybe one or two trades postive ver losers
[10:51] {Threei} no matter what the particular reason is in each given case, mechanics the same
[10:51] {bruce} then 3 or 4 losses in row
[10:52] {bruce} knocks out 2- 3 days of wins
[10:54] {dino} dwsn stopped, gapped
[10:54] {Threei} market dropped more, but I didn't have the read on it at the moment
[10:54] {Threei} then didn't want to chase
[11:00] {dino} dwsn one more try
[11:02] {dino} tchc
[11:06] {dino} wow tchc
[11:12] {dino} dwsn stop to .96
[11:15] {dino} grrrr slippage, stopped average .81
[11:23] {dino} hl l .90 tchc
[11:39] {dino} out tchc .76, -.14
[11:40] {dino} hl l egle .70
[11:45] {Threei} NVDA looks ready for bounce
[11:45] {Threei} .35 long half lot
[11:45] {Threei} .19 stop
[11:46] {Threei} BRCM long .56 half lot
[11:46] {Threei} stop ridiculously tight, .49
[11:46] {Threei} actually, with such stop, full lot BRCM
[11:52] {bruce} in nvda
[11:52] {Threei} both are trying
[11:53] {Threei} BRCM even reached 1:1 but mostly because stop was nicely tight
[11:53] {Threei} which actually is the point... low risk trade
[11:54] {Threei} tighten NVDA to .24
[11:54] {dino} egle stop to .94
[11:55] {dino} out egle .94, +.245
[11:55] {dino} .24'
[11:59] {Threei} .29 NVDA stop
[11:59] {Threei} don't want to lose money on it
[12:00] {Threei} touched briefly on 1:1, not enouigh force to take my offer
[12:01] {Threei} out NVDA
[12:01] {Threei} +.19
[12:03] {bruce} i/2 out .55
[12:04] {Threei} come on BRCM, don't spoil our stats
[12:05] {bruce} nvda stop to .40
[12:06] {Threei} this NQ spike should be it
[12:06] * Threei puts his elbow in BRCM ribs
[12:07] {bruce} all out .61
[12:07] {Threei} there... no way to achieve anything without violence...
[12:07] {Threei} out .70 BRCM
[12:07] {Threei} good job bruce
[12:07] {Threei} wow
[12:07] {bruce} nice trade vadster
[12:07] {bruce} thanx
[12:07] {Threei} did we catch OBL?
[12:07] {Chaeron} nice guys
[12:08] {Threei} welcome sir
[12:08] {Chaeron} I'm gone for the day - make a boatload of cash for me too... c u all tomorrow
[12:08] {Threei} take care chaeron
[12:08] {Threei} 6 out of 7 today
[12:09] {Threei} BRCM exit a bit premature but heck... I expcted NQ bounce but not THAT strong
[12:09] {bruce} see ou chaeron
[12:11] {dino} mbi hl l .25
[12:11] {Threei} another NQ spike is coming
[12:12] {Threei} if holding above 2205 and breaks 2210, I won't be terribly suprized to see green closing
[12:17] {dino} mbi stopped -.35
[12:21] {Threei} 6 points NQ in a single gasp
[12:21] {Threei} I have no idea what's going on but that's exactly what I want to see
[12:23] {Threei} swiss trainess learn "lean on buy button" lesson today?
[12:23] {dino} wynn hl l .87 wide gappy
[12:30] {Threei} next jump NQ please
[12:30] {dino} out wynn .37, +.50
[12:30] {Threei} nice :)
[12:30] {dino} ty
[12:34] {Threei} good boy
[12:34] {Threei} or is NQ a girl?
[12:35] {Threei} just 3 more points to green
[12:35] {dino} girl
[12:35] {Threei} 2
[12:36] {Threei} 1.5
[12:36] {Threei} little dance around and another push that will take us into green
[12:36] {dino} dwsn hl l .00
[12:37] {Threei} where is tom... missing such NQ plays
[12:42] {Threei} ah come on NQ... just .75 points left, don't quit on us now
[12:49] {dino} dwsn stopped .83, -.17
[12:51] {dino} most likely done, thx for ideas. tough day but overall good
[12:52] {Threei} quite nice day here
[12:52] {Threei} rare thing for monday
[12:53] {Threei} usually mondays are struggle with myself
[12:53] {Threei} I say time to get back to work, self says naaaah
[12:57] {Threei} OK guys, thank you all
[12:57] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow
[12:58] {bruce} night vad
[13:00] {dptl} have a good evening all
[13:02] {dino} later all
[13:07] {bruce} night dino - dp
[13:07] {bruce} outta here
[13:07] {bruce} see you guys in am
[13:07] {magoo} bye bruce

November 2, 2007

Session Start: Fri Nov 02 00:10:57 2007

Session Time: Fri Nov 02 00:10:57 2007

[08:51] {bruce} morning all
[08:51] {Threei} morning bruce
[08:52] {magoo} morning bruce..vad
[08:52] {bruce} hey vad
[08:52] {bruce} hi mags
[08:53] {Threei} magoo
[08:53] {esemde} Gm all....
[08:53] {Threei} ese :)
[08:57] {dptl} good morning all
[08:59] {bruce} hi ese, dp
[08:59] {Threei} dp :)
[08:59] {Threei} XING
[08:59] {Threei} TRADES HIGHER AFTER RECEIVING COMMITMENT TO BUY 1.3M SHARES AT $11.80
[09:00] {esemde} Am back....that was odd ...computor just shut down
[09:00] {Threei} WATG
[09:00] {Threei} BREAN MURRAY INITIATES WATG WITH ACCUMULATE, PRICE TARGET: $13
[09:00] {esemde} bruce dp
[09:01] {magoo} thats the one vad
[09:01] {Threei} can be virus, can be bad memory, ese
[09:01] {Threei} yeah magoo... I remember
[09:02] {magoo} when logged in bidu was 394
[09:02] {magoo} i was going to say 400 no brainer today...but was checking email first
[09:02] {Threei} you got a great feel for momo on these crazy movers
[09:03] {magoo} but..i thought it would take a little longer he he
[09:03] {Threei} 11/01/07 04:03pm [CPHD] Reports Q3 -$0.03 v -$0.08e, R$36.3 v $30.8Me
[09:04] {Threei} BIDU waits not :)
[09:09] {markweb} gm all
[09:09] {Threei} mark :)
[09:09] {markweb} :)
[09:13] {bruce} hello mark
[09:13] {esemde} mark
[09:17] {markweb} :)
[09:18] {markweb} vad, dcc pl
[09:30] {dino} gm all
[09:30] {Threei} dino :)
[09:30] {bruce} hi dino
[09:31] {bruce} crox
[09:32] {dino} erts misses by 200m, and goes up, hmm
[09:33] {Threei} SOHU
[09:33] {Threei} small shares long
[09:33] {Threei} .95
[09:33] {Threei} stop under .70
[09:33] {magoo} in
[09:34] {Threei} offering at .40
[09:34] {magoo} out .39
[09:34] {magoo} lol
[09:34] {magoo} TY
[09:34] {Threei} out
[09:34] {Threei} welcome
[09:35] {magoo} good to be back :)
[09:35] {Threei} easy money
[09:35] {magoo} ill follow u anywhere {if genesis lets me lol}
[09:35] {Threei} lol
[09:36] {dino} friday is scalp day magoo
[09:36] {dino} gj
[09:36] {dino} erts s hl .36
[09:37] {dino} stoped .06, +.30
[09:39] {Threei} GLBL
[09:39] {Threei} .15 long half lot
[09:39] {Threei} stop under 26
[09:40] {Threei} offering .36
[09:40] {Threei} out
[09:41] {Threei} easy money #2
[09:44] {Threei} GLBL has that look
[09:44] {magoo} still in
[09:44] {Threei} {dino} friday is scalp day magoo
[09:44] {magoo} u right
[09:44] {Threei} I care not
[09:44] {magoo} offering
[09:44] {Threei} I grab what's right in front of me and move on
[09:45] {magoo} OUTY ty
[09:45] {Threei} :)
[09:45] {dino} can't get the vad voices outta my head
[09:45] {magoo} dino was coming in to kick my butt
[09:45] {Threei} ADBE... .82 looks like long trigger but see if you like it, it's not easy stock to trade
[09:45] {dino} cgnx s .24 hl
[09:46] {Threei} if you went for it, .63 stop
[09:48] {dino} .65 bstop on cgnx if in
[09:50] {Threei} am I hallucinating or SYMX really has 1.20 spread?
[09:50] {Threei} just narrowed to .20
[09:50] {Threei} lol
[09:52] {dino} cov .88, +.36
[09:52] {Threei} VCLK
[09:52] {Threei} 25 breakdown short
[09:52] {Threei} half lot
[09:53] {magoo} in sh
[09:53] {Threei} .25 stop
[09:54] {magoo} q tanked
[09:56] {Threei} stop to .15
[09:58] {magoo} unreal pullbk bidu..not in
[09:58] {bruce} amzn
[09:58] {Threei} half out .85
[09:58] {Threei} stop to 25.05
[10:01] {dino} mall
[10:03] {Threei} out VCLK
[10:03] {Threei} wash
[10:03] {magoo} yup
[10:11] {Threei} Raven... I a need help...
[10:12] {Threei} is word ending today or we still have weekend to enjoy?
[10:12] {dino} hl l grmn .50
[10:12] {cosmo} all words end
[10:12] {cosmo} sorry
[10:13] {Threei} world
[10:13] {Threei} as in sky is falling
[10:13] {Threei} now
[10:13] {cosmo} checking
[10:13] {Threei} hold the ambrella high up
[10:14] {bruce} stop belwo98 for grmn dino?
[10:14] {cosmo} hmm...still too dark to tell...
[10:14] {dino} .97
[10:14] {Threei} MOODY'S SAYS CITIGROUPS, MERRIL LYNCH CREDIT SPREADS WEAKEN TO MATCH WIDEST IN AT LEAST A YEAR
[10:17] {dino} tighten it bruce mkt not helping, to .09
[10:18] {dino} stopped -.41, sorry bruce
[10:18] {bruce} np dino
[10:18] {bruce} its all part of trading
[10:18] {Threei} I hate MLNM
[10:18] {dino} good attitude
[10:19] {dino} its all just a game
[10:19] {Threei} looking at it ever since it consolidated under .25, and can't bring myself to call/buy it
[10:19] {bruce} drys dino?
[10:19] {dino} hl s erts .97
[10:19] {Threei} and frikkin thing just keeps going, lol
[10:19] {magoo} used to be a real player vad
[10:19] {dino} swinging it
[10:19] {dino} drys
[10:20] {Threei} it stayed very narrow for so long that I had hard time to believe it could move like this
[10:22] {bruce} erts stop about .50 dino?
[10:24] {dino} .52
[10:24] {bruce} k thanx
[10:24] {dino} look at grmn
[10:25] {dino} l hl .20
[10:27] {dino} erts stopped -.55 hl
[10:28] {dino} mall hl l .74, stop .44
[10:30] {bruce} yep - stopped erts
[10:30] {dino} bruce grmn
[10:30] {bruce} good get grmn - missed it - tried entry just below 98
[10:31] {dino} ok
[10:32] {dino} out grmn .30, +1.30
[10:32] {dino} opps, 1.10
[10:32] {bruce} was thinking stop of .65 - maybe not enough - but if got 98 enty would have been farily tight
[10:32] {magoo} grmn bruce..i said dino i like it 98.08..he says no..and it goes
[10:32] {magoo} brotherly luv
[10:32] {bruce} lol
[10:32] {bruce} he wanted you out of he play mags
[10:33] {bruce} if I don't take them they work fine
[10:33] {bruce} geesh
[10:33] {bruce} congrats dino - nice play
[10:33] {dino} lucky
[10:33] {dino} ty
[10:35] {bruce} amzn in play today too
[10:35] {bruce} I tried a reversal on it too early
[10:36] {dino} artc drop
[10:37] {bruce} l here artc ?
[10:38] {dino} work it a bit
[10:39] {dino} waiting .75
[10:39] {bruce} k - you want to see bit of a consolidation first?
[10:39] {dino} just higher low really
[10:40] {dino} hate to chase 70 cents
[10:40] {bruce} k
[10:41] {dino} mall stopped -.35, strange day
[10:42] {dino} nowe i would raise artc bid
[10:42] {dino} to .02 imo
[10:43] {bruce} k - got you - thanx
[10:43] {dino} scor pain
[10:46] {Roman} VRTX bouncing
[10:47] {Roman} featured on CNBC
[10:47] {esemde} watching ESLR it's at highs
[10:47] {dino} ok in hl ,stop lod
[10:47] {bruce} me to at .01
[10:48] {bruce} .75 stop
[10:48] {dino} very whippy today, so don't let one trade kill you, ok
[10:49] {esemde} bstop ESLR 12.06...if market helps it
[10:49] {bruce} trading small
[10:51] {bruce} strange - laser says 61.51 low but I don't see anything under .82
[10:57] {bruce} looks like some support about .90 now dino - would you raise stop or keep at lod?
[10:58] {Threei} nice ese
[10:59] {bruce} glbl read vad?
[10:59] {dino} i'm still at lod, but will raise as it goes up, or if looks like death comin'
[10:59] {Threei} ESLR definitely proved to be a worthy mover lately
[10:59] {Threei} I just wish pullbacks weren't so deep
[11:00] {Threei} GLBL chart looks right bruce
[11:00] {Threei} I just have hard time placing a stop
[11:00] {Threei} let's say .35?
[11:01] {Threei} yeah, that's about right
[11:01] {magoo} entry here?
[11:01] {esemde} long ESLR 12.09 3/4 lot
[11:01] {Threei} .50 melting
[11:01] {magoo} tell roman to buy .50...it will melt
[11:02] {Threei} .49 old high, so .50 trigger but there is a big offer there
[11:02] {Threei} so that offer getting hit is second entry condition
[11:06] {dino} artc stop to .73, not moving, thought i saw a horse go by
[11:07] {dino} grmn hl l .76, bad entry
[11:08] {bruce} lol
[11:08] {bruce} wondering if I should dump artc
[11:08] {bruce} stuck in quicksand
[11:08] {esemde} out ESLR .25
[11:08] {dino} on that horse rode death
[11:09] {dino} syna wow
[11:10] {Threei} GLBL hit 1:1
[11:10] {dino} out grmn -.50, back to even
[11:10] {Threei} good job on ESLR ese
[11:10] {bruce} out artc - not wating around for it
[11:13] {dino} hl syna s .45, stop .63
[11:13] {magoo} i got a appt..back in 30 min
[11:15] {dino} cov syna .80, +.65
[11:15] {bruce} nice syna - I didn't even getchance to bring it up
[11:16] {markweb} you are fast dino)
[11:16] {dino} pulp baby
[11:16] {dino} lets do it again
[11:18] {dino} guess not
[11:22] {dino} xprt
[11:26] {dino} artc stopped slippage -.33
[11:26] {Threei} see what I meant about ESLR pullbacks?
[11:27] {dino} gs?
[11:30] {esemde} nokidding Vad.....
[11:31] {bruce} poc artc
[11:33] {bruce} oullback entry eslr here vade?
[11:34] {Threei} hard to tell... I would prefer it lower,
[11:34] {Threei} or alternatively, some consolidastion,
[11:34] {Threei} so we get a range
[11:35] {Threei} then high of this range becomes a trigger and low serves as a support
[11:35] {bruce} k
[11:35] {Threei} if for instance it doesn't lose 12 from now on and trades narrowly for a while, 12.07 can become a long trigger
[11:36] {bruce} big drop in gs dino - 10%
[11:36] {bruce} no idea where bounce is likely to happen
[11:36] {Threei} would also be have some NQ drop meanwhile,
[11:36] {Threei} to make sure ESLR holds support even when market drops
[11:36] {bruce} k - good point vad
[11:36] {bruce} it might be done for day too so no point jumping in
[11:37] {Threei} quite possible
[11:37] {Threei} and I am trying to do tough thing... describe my thinking... where in fact there is none
[11:37] {Threei} lol
[11:38] {bruce} gs is going to 220
[11:39] {bruce} I'll do the overthinking for you vad
[11:40] {bruce} what do you think of vclk short now vad?
[11:40] {Threei} it's just that this process occurs subcosnciously for me :)
[11:42] {Threei} nah
[11:44] {dino} mer s hl .00
[11:47] {bruce} .80 stop dino?
[11:47] {dino} stopped.
[11:47] {dino} taking a break
[11:47] {bruce} I satill think its a short
[11:48] {dino} me, most likely as a swing, probably get to 30's
[11:51] {bruce} 30s? - that one h of a dump
[11:52] {markweb} mer dino
[11:53] {bruce} big spke mer
[11:54] {dino} sec investigation, hiding cdo's
[11:55] {dino} omri
[11:56] {Threei} MER
[11:56] {Threei} RESPONDS TO WSJ STORY, SAYS STORY RELIED ON UNIDENTIFIED SOURCES; NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT ANY SUCH INAPPROPRIATE TRANSACTIONS OCCURRED- This morning, an article in the Wall Street Journal about Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc., relying on unidentified sources, speculated about inappropriate transactions that "may have been designed" to avoid write-downs that "might have been" required earlier in the year. The story is non-specific and relies on
[11:56] {Threei} inappropriate transactions occurred. Such transactions would clearly violate Merrill Lynch policy.
[11:58] {dino} omri hl s .27
[12:00] {bruce} can't possibly be true vad
[12:00] {bruce} big companies like that are always ethical
[12:00] {bruce} whipsaw city in mer now
[12:04] {bruce} ongoing story of mice
[12:04] {Threei} yeah just ask Enron execs :)
[12:04] {bruce} got 6 so far
[12:04] {bruce} wife will have fur coat soon
[12:06] {bruce} grmn back to lod
[12:06] {bruce} any read as short grmn vad?
[12:08] {Threei} feels more like bounce to me
[12:09] {Threei} but it's kind of 51/49 :)
[12:09] {bruce} k
[12:09] {Threei} break of .50 I would try long
[12:09] {bruce} not
[12:10] {Threei} with stop under .20
[12:11] {bruce} l grmn
[12:12] {Threei} 1:1
[12:12] {Threei} 1:2
[12:12] {Threei} nice and easy
[12:12] {bruce} out .82
[12:13] {Threei} and, amazingly for such stock, stress-free
[12:13] {Threei} and I cannot stress enough the importance of this factor
[12:13] {bruce} lol
[12:13] {bruce} easy for you to say
[12:13] {Threei} (pun intented and admittedly bad)
[12:13] {bruce} one to one cause stop was .20
[12:14] {bruce} tried to get 98 even but exited when it hesitated
[12:14] {bruce} back to be for the day!
[12:14] {bruce} should have held some
[12:14] {Threei} why?
[12:15] {Threei} because NOW you see it trading higher?
[12:15] {bruce} could have got .25 more
[12:15] {Threei} wrong way to think
[12:15] {bruce} lol
[12:15] {bruce} you bet
[12:15] {bruce} hindisght you know
[12:15] {bruce} no - Im out and back to flat
[12:15] {bruce} that was nice
[12:15] {Threei} there is a way to maximize your wins
[12:16] {Threei} but it's a procedure
[12:16] {Threei} it requires certain alaysis
[12:16] {bruce} ordered your profit plan by way
[12:16] {Threei} you will find it there
[12:16] {Threei} one request if I may
[12:16] {bruce} send royalties?
[12:16] {Threei} lol
[12:17] {bruce} your wife wants mouse fur coat too?
[12:17] {Threei} when you get it, give a week or so, to sort out which parts are familiar to you and which you need to workmore on,
[12:17] {Threei} keeping in mind that this is not a book to read and put away,
[12:17] {bruce} thats easy
[12:17] {bruce} I need lots of work
[12:17] {Threei} this is workbook to use as go along
[12:18] {Threei} then in a week or two, after you start working out your procedures accordsingly to recipes described there
[12:18] {Threei} please get back to me and tell,
[12:18] {bruce} k
[12:18] {bruce} will keep you posted
[12:18] {Threei} whether it's exactly what you needed
[12:18] {bruce} assuming there is some kind of suggested trading record in it?
[12:19] {Threei} what do you measn by record?
[12:19] {bruce} thought it would contain some kind of suggested trade tracking methodology
[12:19] {Chaeron} log?
[12:19] {Threei} oh ofcourse,
[12:19] {Chaeron} trading log?
[12:19] {Threei} but it's more than that
[12:19] {bruce} k
[12:19] {Threei} there are different ones depending on what problem you are solving
[12:20] {Threei} it's a troubleshooting
[12:20] {Threei} how to spot the problem,
[12:20] {markweb} ESLR near HOD
[12:20] {bruce} k
[12:20] {Threei} how to track it,
[12:20] {bruce} mmight take me years to get through it then
[12:20] {Threei} how to analyse results
[12:20] {Threei} and how to correct the problem
[12:20] {Threei} no
[12:21] {Threei} as I said, it's a workbook
[12:21] {bruce} I revew it - try it out and get back to you vaqd
[12:21] {Threei} it will need different parts of it on different stages
[12:21] {bruce} promise
[12:21] {Threei} it's a "process" kind of book, not an "event" kind
[12:22] {Threei} ummm... that should read "you will need different parts of it on different stages"
[12:22] {bruce} k
[12:22] {Threei} to tell you what I really think - I consider this one the most useful out of everything I wrote
[12:23] {Threei} and this is the least popular, lol
[12:23] {Threei} lesson: write BS
[12:23] {Threei} BS sells
[12:24] {bruce} lol
[12:24] {bruce} now you know how to grow your already huge nigerian wealth
[12:24] {bruce} especailly with your writing experience
[12:25] {Threei} my next book, should I ever decide to wqrite one, will be called "Amazing Secrets That WILL Make You Rich Beyond Your Wildest Dreams", and will contain sound advice to buy low and sell high, spread out by 300 pages
[12:25] {bruce} ah
[12:25] {bruce} thats cool
[12:25] {Threei} wit attachment showing on the chart what low is and what high is
[12:25] {bruce} was just hinking how to get rich overnight - secrets of trading they don't want you to know
[12:25] {Threei} yes
[12:25] {Threei} that will be a NY bestseller
[12:26] {Threei} NY Times
[12:26] {bruce} your title is better
[12:26] {bruce} "amazing" should be an attention getter
[12:26] {Threei} hey, we can always add subtitle
[12:26] {Threei} secrets that they don't want you to know is nice touch
[12:26] {Threei} the more bs the merrier
[12:27] {bruce} hanx
[12:27] {bruce} everybody loves a conspiracy
[12:28] {bruce} time again for doggy duty
[12:28] {bruce} he gets me out of this chari so I don't go bug eyed lookingat charts
[12:28] {bruce} back in 30
[12:29] {magoo} back, longer than xpected
[12:29] {Threei} missed GRMN trade mags
[12:29] {magoo} 402.98 bidu premkt high
[12:29] {magoo} looks liket attacking it
[12:30] {Threei} {---- very kind and will never miss a chance to make a comrade feel bad
[12:30] {magoo} ty, it worked
[12:30] {magoo} lol
[12:30] {Threei} :)
[12:34] {dino} omri bstop to .91
[12:37] {dino} tighten to .84
[12:39] {dino} crox
[12:41] {dino} cov omri .84, +.43
[12:43] {Threei} CSIQ... another solar trying to grow big
[12:43] {magoo} mkts green
[12:44] {magoo} nutty
[12:45] {Threei} oil at record highs... financial worries... all worries you could only think of... and market sets highs, returns to green after selloffs
[12:45] {Threei} can you say bull mrket?
[12:49] {dino} indeed
[12:50] {dino} all but financials, real estate and autos
[09:59] {ramvfin2003} SCON?
[10:01] {Threei} no read... you see any setup on it?
[10:02] {dino} avtr
[10:03] {markweb} nice spread
[10:04] {dino} hooker
[10:04] {markweb} lol
[10:04] {Threei} ram?
[10:04] {Threei} are we having dialog or you just throwing them out there never to look again? :)
[10:10] {dino} l hl egle .49
[10:11] {markweb} Why long, dino?
[10:12] {dino} drys going up
[10:12] {dino} shippers
[10:12] {Threei} anyone watched NQ/QID just now?
[10:12] {markweb} ty
[10:12] {markweb} y
[10:13] {dino} nope
[10:13] {Threei} thig of beauty
[10:13] {Threei} easiest 200 I've ever made
[10:13] {Threei} NQ spikes sharply, QID stays at .70 for a few more seconds
[10:14] {Threei} hitting it short, it drops 10 cents in a matter of seconds
[10:14] {dino} tzoo
[10:14] {Threei} to be xact and looking at blotter - trade took 9 seconds
[10:15] {dino} too fast]
[10:15] {magoo} u should have called it boss
[10:15] {Threei} rofl
[10:15] {dino} vads' buying the first round
[10:16] {Threei} one who could call it real time with enouigh time for others to enter doesn't have to trade - he will make a fortune in circus as world's fastest typing man
[10:18] {magoo} well u had whole 9 secs
[10:18] {Threei} no
[10:18] {Threei} 9 seconds for trade completion
[10:18] {Threei} roundtrip
[10:18] {Threei} from short to cover
[10:19] {magoo} call me on phone and voice the trade then lol
[10:19] {dino} and they say i'm fast
[10:19] {Threei} phone eh
[10:20] {bruce} any read on crox as breakout play vad?
[10:20] {dino} egle not cooperating stop to .24
[10:20] {Threei} needs to hold 50 for any break to be valid
[10:21] {Threei} so far it doesn't
[10:21] {Threei} so, if returns above 50, needs to consolidate to form it as a support again
[10:22] {bruce} k -
[10:24] {dino} mbi s .05
[10:25] {markweb} missed:(
[10:26] {dino} cov .50, +.55
[10:26] {markweb} gj
[10:26] {dino} pulp baby
[10:26] {bruce} nice dino
[10:26] {dino} went another .40
[10:27] {dino} ty
[10:32] {bruce} now vad -
[10:32] {bruce} why not find us a nice
[10:32] {bruce} low isk
[10:32] {bruce} risk
[10:32] {bruce} 1 dollar plus
[10:32] {bruce} low stess
[10:32] {bruce} trade
[10:32] {Threei} ummm... may I offer BIDU?
[10:32] {bruce} that plays out in less than 5 min?
[10:33] {markweb} 4 dollar plus no stress:)
[10:33] {bruce} cool
[10:33] {bruce} mags told me to ask you thaqt vad
[10:33] {Threei} I thought I recognized the style {G}
[10:34] {Threei} how much are you willing to lose on such trade?
[10:34] {magoo} i wondering if it will sell down 14 points at 2:30
[10:34] {bruce} loes?
[10:34] {bruce} you mean that can happen?
[10:34] {markweb} 0
[10:35] {bruce} what with 2:30 mags?
[10:35] {magoo} contra hour
[10:36] {bruce} k
[10:37] {magoo} only way to plasy...get a feel for general direction coming...take only 150 shares and ride the swings ...pput a stop at $200 buxtak
[10:38] {magoo} if goes a point and half against you...u wrong
[10:38] {magoo} otherwise let it go 14 points like tues
[10:39] {magoo} u don't scalp 1 point because suffer too much on the swings...light shares to get the run
[10:39] {dino} egle stopped -.25
[10:40] {bruce} mer short dino?
[10:41] {dino} done w/mer for today
[10:41] {markweb} go for SEPR dino:)
[10:41] {bruce} k
[10:43] {dino} feels lower
[10:44] {markweb} out from .57
[10:45] {dino} gj
[10:46] {markweb} ty
[10:46] {Threei} bruce, dcc please
[10:48] {markweb} guys, today is my last day in the chart room, i have to take a brake. Thank your for help.
[10:48] {Threei} take care mark, see you in Jan
[10:48] {markweb} Thank you
[10:49] {dino} take care mark and good luck
[10:50] {markweb} ty dino
[10:50] {markweb} u are fast!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:50] {dino} :)
[10:50] {dino} try not to overthink stuff
[10:50] {markweb} ok
[10:51] {dino} i mean, i try not to
[10:52] {markweb} you are gooooooood!
[10:57] {dino} risky, l sm gs .60
[10:58] {dino} need mkt help
[11:04] {dino} laid out to high at .60
[11:05] {dino} out .84, +.24
[11:06] {dino} stupipd
[11:06] {dino} can't even spell it, lol
[11:16] {dino} syna s hl .00
[11:21] {dino} syna stopped -.40 shesh
[11:22] {Chaeron} Researchers led by Alex Zetttl at the University of California, Berkeley have crafted a fully working radio from a single carbon nanotube 10,000 times thinner than a human hair. Carbon nanotubes are man-made microscopic mesh rods composed entirely of carbon atoms. {{{ holy cow
[11:24] {dino} rinse
[11:25] {markweb} y
[11:25] {markweb} last day in deeeeep red lol
[11:26] {dino} about flat here
[11:26] {dino} tough day imo
[11:27] {dino} l gs sm .10
[11:28] {dino} out .90, +.80, black
[11:29] {dino} pulp baby
[11:29] {bruce} congrats dino
[11:30] {dino} lucky, thats all, lucky
[11:30] {bruce} no one is consistnetly lucky dino
[11:31] {bruce} you think we may be headed for market meltodown vad?
[11:32] {Threei} today? or overall?
[11:32] {dino} in financials i do, but tech is rockin' for most part, imo
[11:32] {bruce} no - overall
[11:32] {bruce} they usually push higher towards christmas
[11:32] {bruce} seen awful shaky of late though
[11:33] {bruce} yes - financials definitely getting trounced
[11:33] {dino} bruce, reverse your thinking, for daytraders these moves are moneymakers, don't think, react
[11:34] {Threei} I doubt it bruce...
[11:34] {Threei} mnarket shows way too much resilience in face of doom and gloom predictions
[11:34] {bruce} understood
[11:42] {bruce} ek
[11:44] {dino} goping up
[11:44] {dino} going
[11:44] {dino} rimm strong today
[11:46] {dino} cpla
[11:52] {dino} gs l .60
[11:53] {dino} well that sucked
[11:53] {dino} stopped -.40
[11:56] {dino} try one last time off of .50 sm, if it gets there
[11:58] {dino} cx it, back in 10
[12:08] {dino} .
[12:08] {bruce} drys dino?
[12:09] {dino} l gs .50
[12:09] {dino} i like drys, but on gs, takes all my attn
[12:13] {dino} stopped gs, done w/it for today
[12:15] {Raven} yes
[12:15] {Threei} yes?
[12:15] {bruce} decepive play - formed higher low then failed on beak
[12:17] {dino} have to size down on it, let it wiggle more
[12:17] {dino} see, drops a buck then right back
[12:17] {dino} taunting me
[12:18] {dino} sheesh
[12:18] {dino} rally
[12:18] {bruce} yes - now looks like you play woujd haqve been winner
[12:19] {Threei} MLNM, .95 short if can't break 13
[12:19] {Threei} 13.01 stop
[12:20] {dino} would've got me a buck and a half
[12:21] {Threei} short .98 - I am bored and willing to pay 3 cents stop as a price for entertainment
[12:21] {magoo} full
[12:21] {magoo} ?
[12:21] {Threei} triple
[12:22] {bruce} in mlnm
[12:23] {bruce} now kiss your boots mlnm!
[12:23] {magoo} in double
[12:24] {markweb} in x 5 lol
[12:25] {Threei} well, one who did 1-x can actually cover for profit {G}
[12:25] {Threei} 10x
[12:25] {markweb} x 20
[12:26] {markweb} sold!
[12:26] {bruce} put in offer to sell 50 k vad
[12:26] {bruce} that should do it
[12:26] {Threei} .91 stop
[12:26] {dino} itri hl l .85, stop lod
[12:26] {Threei} out .90
[12:27] {Threei} 1:3
[12:27] {markweb} nice
[12:27] {Threei} not bad for boredom trade
[12:28] {Threei} and stress free
[12:28] {Threei} {--- stressing the point
[12:28] {bruce} stressing the stress free?
[12:28] {Threei} right
[12:28] {bruce} thats doule stress vad
[12:29] {Threei} yeah but "free" is negative stress
[12:30] {Threei} triple negative stress = coma
[12:30] {Threei} negative stress = calm, double egative stress = serenity, triple = coma
[12:30] {bruce} no - thats quad
[12:30] {Threei} how's that for a scale?
[12:30] {bruce} the triples come with those pills you're taking
[12:30] {Threei} ok, triple is tranquility
[12:31] {Threei} those pills don't work bruce, they are overpowered by what I smoke
[12:31] {bruce} oh
[12:31] {bruce} didna't realize that
[12:32] {magoo} out .89
[12:32] {magoo} ty vasd
[12:32] {Threei} welcome
[12:32] {bruce} thought it was the vodka shooters you have lined up on your desk
[12:32] {Threei} those are just polishing the state of mind
[12:32] {Threei} added glamour you know
[12:33] {bruce} sure
[12:33] {bruce} and you cdan add lemon twist for even more
[12:33] {dino} itri stop to .58
[12:33] {bruce} thats proably un - russin thing to do though
[12:34] {Threei} no... we eat lemons whole
[12:34] {Threei} not pilling them
[12:34] {bruce} wow
[12:35] {bruce} no wonder you have such sour disposition
[12:35] {dino} stopped -.31, slippage
[12:35] {Threei} you need something twisty when chewing on those polar bears
[12:35] {Threei} lemon does the job
[12:35] {bruce} lol
[12:35] {dino} cpla hl s .96
[12:35] {bruce} I hear the livers are best
[12:37] {Threei} you assume we pay attention to what part we eat
[12:37] {Threei} we don't... we just bite off whole bear
[12:37] {dino} bstop is .10 tight
[12:37] {Threei} spitting out fur
[12:37] {dptl} lol
[12:37] {Threei} mark, tell him
[12:38] {Threei} he doeasn't believe me
[12:38] {Threei} and dp's laughter is not helping
[12:38] {bruce} why spit out fur?
[12:38] {bruce} adds fiber to your diet
[12:38] {Threei} to pretend we are civilized
[12:39] {markweb} pig with milk and beer!
[12:39] {magoo} BEER????
[12:39] {Threei} there... mark has his own diet
[12:39] {markweb} bear sry
[12:39] {Threei} he is vegetarian and doesn't eat bears
[12:39] {dino} stopped -.20, w/slipo
[12:40] {bruce} pigs are vegetarian now?
[12:40] {Threei} pigs are vegeatbles though
[12:40] {bruce} ah - readm y mind
[12:40] {markweb} slippage at Cyber is.......
[12:41] {markweb} it cost me 80$
[12:41] {markweb} on 3 trades
[12:42] {dino} axca l .50
[12:43] {Threei} mark, dcc please
[12:46] {bruce} bidu
[12:50] {dino} axca stop to .65
[12:51] {dino} to .70 whoo hoo
[12:52] {dino} out axca .72
[12:53] {dino} .22 i mean
[12:54] {dino} =\
[12:54] {dino} +
[12:55] {bruce} nice dino
[12:55] {dino} ty, i'm done, tough day, down a little
[12:55] {dptl} have a good weekend all..........see ya monday..:)
[12:55] {dino} should've quit after first two trades
[12:56] {dino} u2 dp
[12:58] {Threei} thank you all
[12:58] {Threei} have a good weekend, see you on Monday
[12:59] {bruce} green for day red for week for me = sucks
[12:59] {bruce} anyway - have a good weekend all
[13:00] {dino} bruce, start your streak of wins today
[13:00] {bruce} that one way to look at it dino
[13:00] {bruce} up all this month so far!
[13:00] {dino} go green monday=2 in a row, etc, have to sart somewhere
[13:00] {magoo} bye bruce
[13:00] {bruce} green yesterday too
[13:01] {dino} 2 days you are going good. today was very tough day
[13:01] {bruce} bye mags
[13:01] {bruce} see you guys
[13:01] {markweb} Thank you allI I will see in the begining of next year.
[13:01] {bruce} k- tkae care mark
[13:01] {dino} take care mark.
[13:01] {bruce} thanx for encouragement dino
[13:01] {dino} outta here too, magoo, grab a brew
[13:01] {bruce} been shadowing a lot of yoru trades
[13:01] {dino} np
[13:02] {markweb} thanks
Session Close: Sat Nov 03 00:00:00 2007

November 1, 2007

Session Start: Thu Nov 01 00:00:01 2007

Session Time: Thu Nov 01 00:00:01 2007

[05:27] {bruce} morning all
[05:28] {Threei} morning bruce
[05:41] {esemde} morning Bruce Vad
[05:43] {Threei} ese :)
[05:43] {esemde} Got rid of the rest of ESLR yesterday Vad at 11.96 +.47 or something
[05:43] {Threei} wtg
[05:43] {Threei} great trade
[05:44] {esemde} yes....it took that one last push up there....
[05:44] {bruce} hi ese - congrats ontrade
[05:44] {Threei} ESLR showed somewhat unusual for it pattern yesterday
[05:45] {Threei} usually this one trades on its own merit, not much to do with market
[05:45] {esemde} yes ....
[05:45] {Threei} but yesterday it went up big when market did
[05:45] {Threei} maybe it becomes more of a mainstream stock
[05:46] {esemde} hmmmm....i have been following the solar group for awhile like Roman has
[05:46] {esemde} maybe the whole group is about to go.....
[05:47] {Threei} quite possible, they showed some perkiness lately
[05:47] {Threei} just need mania to catch on
[05:48] {Threei} when mania hits nothing matters... any name in the sector goes
[05:48] {Threei} when mania ends nothing helps... no matter how great company is, interest just vanes
[05:48] {Threei} look at most recent mania, chinese stocks
[05:49] {Threei} while they are hot everyone discusses "this one is good company, this one is even better"
[05:49] {esemde} yes indeed
[05:49] {Threei} then for this or that reason sector chilles out
[05:49] {Threei} and no matter what, there is just no money flowing into them
[05:50] {bruce} how do you track stocks by sectors guys- is it all done by memory?
[05:50] {Threei} that's the problem with fundamental approach... it's based on assumption that good one will catch on sooner or later
[05:51] {Threei} but it just has no tools to gauge the interest
[05:52] {Threei} there are sites that give you stock breakdown by sectors and industries bruce
[05:52] {Threei} list competitors etc
[05:52] {Threei} don't have them on top of my memeory but they are legion
[05:52] {Threei} yahoo financials should have it
[05:52] {bruce} have seen some vad - yahoo and msn money among them
[05:52] {Threei} nasdaq site
[05:52] {Threei} and a lot of ot others
[05:53] {bruce} dont have time during real time trading to be sorting thru them
[05:53] {bruce} would be nice to have some way to scan for hottest - weakest daily sector
[05:53] {bruce} then identify top 3 strong and weak in each
[05:54] {Threei} yeah, I am often done with the gtrade before thoughtful trader finds out what sector stock in :)
[05:54] {Threei} there is something like that too
[05:54] {cosmo} UTHR
[05:54] {Threei} I remember sites with "market temperature" or something like that
[05:54] {Threei} broken down by sectors
[05:54] {cosmo} "heat map"
[05:54] {Threei} and stocks in them
[05:55] {bruce} k - havenb't seen that - but sounds like goodidea
[05:55] {Threei} showing just what you said
[05:55] {bruce} I do a bit of sector trading - financials, internet etc
[05:56] {bruce} but comes down to looking at sector chart to compare them
[05:56] {bruce} and then memorizing a few keyu stocks in that sector
[05:57] {esemde} what cos said heat amp...heat map
[05:57] {bruce} yeah - heat map - have heard that description used
[05:57] {Threei} http://www.smartmoney.com/marketmap/
[05:57] {cosmo} http://screening.nasdaq.com/heatmaps/heatmap_100.asp
[05:57] {Threei} there you go
[05:57] {cosmo} "
[05:58] {bruce} k
[05:58] {bruce} not something you use yourself vad?
[05:58] {Threei} I am just too lazy
[05:58] {Threei} but it can be useful
[05:58] {bruce} lol
[05:59] {bruce} important thing is to have a working trading method
[05:59] {bruce} and yous already works for you
[05:59] {Threei} not only secotrs but also hottest and weakest stock in each sector
[05:59] {Threei} at this smartmoney map
[05:59] {bruce} yes - have been looking for something like that
[06:00] {bruce} also rememeber you talking about a strategy of trading leaders and lagards
[06:00] {bruce} trading a laggard after leader has taken a certain acdtion
[06:00] {bruce} bet that would work well with sector trading style
[06:00] {esemde} that NAS heap map only updates every couple of minutes or so doesn't it.....it's not real time i don't think
[06:01] {bruce} would think that is good enough ese
[06:01] {bruce} I think money tends to flow into particular sectors all day long once started
[06:02] {Threei} click on any stock, a lot of info pops up
[06:02] {esemde} not for Vads style or trading.......
[06:02] {Threei} research top your heart conent
[06:02] {bruce} have heard thqat "sector rotations" are faster now though
[06:02] {bruce} used to last for months
[06:03] {bruce} or so I read
[06:03] {bruce} didn't trade in 90s so don
[06:03] {bruce} t know
[06:05] {bruce} we don't seem to be getting a lot of stock follow through lately vad
[06:06] {bruce} a lot of the partial out trades dont trade further on second half
[06:06] {Threei} gosh, haven't you seen what NQ did last two weeks? :)
[06:06] {Threei} what follow through, it's been such a rollercoaster
[06:06] {bruce} even though you are trading strngest movers for that time and eday
[06:06] {bruce} seems odd
[06:07] {dptl} good morning all
[06:07] {Threei} dp :)
[06:08] {dino} gm all
[06:08] {esemde} dp dino
[06:08] {Threei} dino :)
[06:09] {bruce} hi dino
[06:09] {bruce} dp
[06:09] {bruce} big dump crox dino
[06:09] {esemde} how you doin today dino.... seemed like a bit of a rough day fro you yesterday
[06:10] {dino} fine, yesterday was very good for me over 2x's daily
[06:11] {dino} tuesday was tough, but still green
[06:11] {esemde} excellent......
[06:12] {dino} will be watching crox bruce, thx
[06:12] {cosmo} there's green on the far side of the hill...they say
[06:12] {dino} :)\
[06:12] {esemde} does anyone know much about warrants.....are they a positive or negative thing.....CPSL just issued a wach of them....usually institutions will want to drive up stock after they acquire them....correct?
[06:13] {esemde} Thats "wack"
[06:14] {esemde} might be a capitulation thing going on in CPSL....
[06:14] {markweb} gm all
[06:14] {Threei} mark :)
[06:14] {esemde} mark
[06:14] {markweb} :)
[06:15] {cosmo} China Precision Steel Announces $47.9 Million Financing
[06:15] {cosmo} PR Newswire (Thu 12:05am)
[06:16] {esemde} saw the news wire....just wondering if it's positive or negative thing...
[06:16] {cosmo} negative.... i think
[06:16] {esemde} have been following this one for a bit
[06:16] {bruce} hello mark
[06:17] {esemde} if the strike price is 8.45 they are going to want to drive the price up beyond that ....correct
[06:18] {esemde} wash out going today i think...
[06:18] {cosmo} ... nice knife
[06:19] {esemde} knife
[06:19] {esemde} ?
[06:19] {cosmo} the falling kind
[06:19] {cosmo} here...catch
[06:20] {cosmo} CPSL needs to hold 7
[06:20] {cosmo} i think
[06:20] {esemde} thats wheree the 50ma is
[06:25] {dino} cosmo, forver the teacher
[06:25] {esemde} man after my own heart
[06:26] {cosmo} "for ever"?
[06:26] {cosmo} CPSL tests
[06:30] {cosmo} hmm... nice knife still...
[06:30] {cosmo} who knows...
[06:31] {cosmo} 6.66
[06:32] {dino} pdgi
[06:33] {bruce} uthr
[06:34] {dino} pdgi hl s .75, stop .16
[06:35] {magoo} hi
[06:37] {Threei} magoo :)
[06:37] {bruce} morning mags
[06:37] {Threei} watching JNPR
[06:37] {Threei} how it handles this NQ pullback
[06:37] {Threei} if stays above .85, break is long
[06:38] {dino} bstop to .21
[06:38] {bruce} nice call pdgi dino - missed it
[06:38] {dino} to .01
[06:39] {dino} to .55
[06:39] {Threei} prefer aggressive entry on JNPR now, with NQ showing reversal
[06:39] {dino} stopped 36.54 +1.21
[06:40] {dino} ty bruce
[06:40] {Threei} in
[06:41] {Threei} tight stop, .74
[06:41] {dino} need coffee
[06:43] {bruce} stopped jnpr
[06:44] {Threei} nice shake
[06:45] {bruce} - yes - story of my life
[06:45] {bruce} worth second try?
[06:46] {dino} going down hard -222 dow
[06:46] {dino} where's my bounce
[06:46] {Threei} with NQ so jerky right now, no
[06:46] {dino} feels like 300 down coming
[06:46] {Threei} 8 points in one minute
[06:47] {dino} sitting for a bit
[06:52] {dino} plxs
[06:53] {Threei} POZN 10 break long
[06:54] {dino} sm l crox 54.00
[06:55] {Roman} ESLR
[06:55] {Roman} interesting
[06:56] {Threei} you missed all the excitment on it yesterday
[06:56] {dptl} Vad,quote server?pls
[06:56] {dino} stoped crox -.44
[06:56] {Threei} 2
[06:56] {dptl} ty
[06:57] {bruce} seeing moreshort drops than working long bounces lately dino
[06:57] {Threei} don't like this sharp red on POZN
[06:58] {bruce} I waited for 10 resitance on pozn to "emlt"
[06:58] {bruce} good thing
[06:59] {Roman} MALL
[06:59] {Threei} of course... there was big resistance, no point in being first to buy
[06:59] {Roman} MALL reported earnings a few days ago
[07:00] {Roman} i am watching this one for complete tear up over $20
[07:00] {Roman} but slow
[07:00] {Threei} OCT ISM MANUFACTURING: 50.9 V 51.5E; PRICES PAID: 63 V 63.0E
[07:05] {Threei} ATHR
[07:06] {Threei} half lot to smaller, .50 break long
[07:06] {Threei} .29 stop
[07:08] {esemde} bstop CPSL 6.85....
[07:08] {dino} cpla
[07:08] {dino} thin
[07:08] {Threei} if sets up, 36 shouldn't be a problem
[07:09] {Threei} charts are ideal in all timeframes
[07:10] {Threei} if sets up from here, stop .35
[07:14] {Roman} XRAY
[07:14] {Roman} stong
[07:14] {Roman} and WOOF
[07:15] {Threei} TQNT?
[07:17] {Threei} no news that I see
[07:17] {Roman} CSIQ strong
[07:19] {dino} cpla hl s .60
[07:21] {Roman} vad, what's up with Canadian Solar: CSIQ, give some insight please
[07:21] {Threei} consider please that I found about it being canadian 5 seconds ago, from you
[07:23] {Roman} WATG continues
[07:23] {dino} cpla stopped ouch
[07:23] {dptl} Vad, is your quotes ok?
[07:24] {Threei} looks fine
[07:24] {Roman} GNBT
[07:24] {Threei} unless I have delays I am not aware about... let's compare?
[07:24] {dptl} i have stack quotes everywhere
[07:24] {Threei} name the stock
[07:24] {dptl} well check jnpr
[07:25] {Threei} 09:15am [GNBT] Receives Regulatory Approval to Sell Generex Oral-lyn in India
[07:25] {Threei} 35.17 x .19
[07:25] {Threei} .18 x .20
[07:25] {Threei} .21 x.22
[07:25] {Threei} looks fine
[07:25] {bruce} cpla stop dino?
[07:26] {Threei} yours different dp?
[07:26] {Roman} DRYS bouncing
[07:26] {Roman} QMAR & EGLE could go with it
[07:26] {dino} bruce see above 10:24
[07:26] {dino} right through me -.55
[07:26] {dptl} offers fine but bits i have stacked like all the way from 35.65
[07:27] {dptl} bids
[07:27] {Threei} wierd... nothing like that here
[07:27] {bruce} k - din't play it - it didn't give you much chance for decent exit
[07:27] {dino} drys positive, watch egle ocnf tbsi
[07:28] {dino} egle l .96 hl
[07:28] {dptl} changing quote server and its the same
[07:28] {dino} cpla too gappy, my own damn fault
[07:29] {Threei} wow GNBT
[07:29] {Threei} last time it moved like that was in June
[07:29] {dptl} what quote server now,Vad?
[07:30] {Threei} 4
[07:30] {Threei} dp, try this
[07:30] {Threei} trade settings,
[07:30] {Threei} Level II,
[07:30] {Threei} Time treshold,
[07:30] {Threei} set to 0
[07:30] {Threei} EIA NATURAL GAS INVENTORIES: 66+ BCF VS. + 50 TO +55 BCF EXPECTED RANGE
[07:30] {Roman} nice buying on GNBT
[07:31] {dino} india approval gnbt
[07:31] {Roman} they probably want to pop it higher
[07:31] {Threei} [10:25] {Threei} 09:15am [GNBT] Receives Regulatory Approval to Sell Generex Oral-lyn in India
[07:31] {dino} cpla sheesh, sould've held
[07:31] {Roman} [10:31] {Threei} [10:25] {Threei} 09:15am [GNBT] Receives Regulatory Approval to Sell Generex Oral-lyn in India
[07:31] {Threei} [10:31] {Roman} [10:31] {Threei} [10:25] {Threei} 09:15am [GNBT] Receives Regulatory Approval to Sell Generex Oral-lyn in India
[07:31] {Roman} tempting to do it again :)
[07:31] {Threei} lol
[07:32] {Roman} but since this log is made public i have to chill
[07:33] {dptl} no....still the same
[07:33] {Roman} http://www.realitytrader.com/tradinglog/
[07:33] {Roman} the log is avaiable public, Vad has Google ads on there too
[07:33] {Roman} feel free to browse
[07:33] {Threei} something must be wrong somewhere in settings dp... not sure what it is
[07:34] {Threei} laserdave is away for a few days, death in family...
[07:34] {markweb} ATHR vad?
[07:34] {Threei} when he is back, make him track down the setting
[07:34] {dptl} and i have that everywhere and too often
[07:35] {Threei} mark, break of .50 is extremely lucrative... pullback was deeper than I would have liked
[07:35] {Roman} CSUN high
[07:35] {markweb} ty
[07:35] {Threei} so maybe widen the stop, decrease tha shares
[07:36] {Roman} long GOLD small
[07:36] {Threei} if often then even more chance that some setting is off dp
[07:36] {Roman} 36.10
[07:36] {Threei} because when it happens for everyone, it's a big deal and being addressed quickly
[07:37] {dino} any egle takers?
[07:37] {Roman} i am in QMAR
[07:37] {markweb} no:( dino
[07:37] {dino} stop to .24
[07:37] {dino} don't blame you, i went cold on two
[07:38] {dino} egle to .35
[07:38] {dino} out egle .38., +.40
[07:39] {dino} taking a break
[07:39] {bruce} nice dino
[07:42] {Roman} out 1/2 QMAR +.30
[07:43] {Threei} trigger ATHR
[07:47] {dino} ty bruce
[07:47] {Roman} out GOLD +34
[07:47] {dino} back in black at least
[07:47] {dino} wow egle
[07:47] {dino} wow drys
[07:49] {dino} hl l ocnf .50
[07:52] {Threei} move already ATHR
[07:53] {Threei} you have 36 to hit, and we don't have 5 years to wait
[07:53] {Threei} heck, I'll be surprized if we can hold it for more than 5 min {G}
[07:54] {dino} out ocnf .70, +.20
[07:57] {dino} ralllly monkey
[07:58] {markweb} any in SOHU?
[07:59] {dino} solars spiking
[08:03] {Threei} JASO
[08:03] {Threei} long on pullback, as close to 59 as possible
[08:04] {Threei} small shares, volatile one
[08:04] {Threei} what's with GLBL
[08:06] {dino} mflo
[08:06] {dptl} found problem
[08:06] {Threei} you had no computer?
[08:06] {dptl} lol
[08:07] {dptl} auto correction was uncheked
[08:07] {dino} mflo s partial fill .55
[08:07] {Threei} there you go
[08:07] {Threei} you had no computer was my next suggestion
[08:08] {Threei} in JASO
[08:08] {Threei} stop under .80
[08:08] {Threei} smallish shares
[08:08] {dino} darn partials, i'd be out otherwise
[08:09] {Threei} if this entry fails, next level to watch is 58.50
[08:13] {Threei} half out +.40
[08:13] {Threei} scalpers get out
[08:19] {dino} gj
[08:19] {Threei} ty
[08:21] {Threei} stop just under 59 for balance
[08:22] {dino} ilmn
[08:27] {Threei} vague feeling is, NQ prepares for new rally
[08:28] {Threei} if holding above 2230 and tags 37, should go back to 50 and above
[08:30] {esemde} have a great day everyone....still have my bstop in CPSL6,85...we'll see what happens there the rest of the day....take care
[08:31] {Threei} take care ese
[08:31] {bruce} bye ese
[08:32] {bruce} ilmn s dino?
[08:33] {dino} cya ese
[08:35] {dino} vsat
[08:37] {cosmo} pozn test
[08:37] {cosmo} 10
[08:38] {dino} bruce, ilmn, didn't go up enough for short, like 2.50ish
[08:38] {bruce} k- wasn't sure if it was oversold enough - thanx
[08:41] {dino} all imo
[08:41] {dino} which isn't worth anything
[08:43] {Threei} SAUDI ARABIA: SAYS GULF STATES WILLING TO FORM A CONSORTIUM TO PROVIDE ENRICHED URANIUM TO IRAN
[08:45] {dino} sbac
[08:49] {bruce} grmn hit 100
[08:50] {Threei} SCON
[08:50] {Threei} worth a try for bounce
[08:50] {Threei} stop under .60
[08:50] {ramvfin2003} here?
[08:50] {Threei} yeah
[08:51] {Threei} scalp only most likely
[08:51] {Threei} quite e retreat from high 3 days ago
[09:04] {Threei} 1:1
[09:05] {Threei} out .94
[09:05] {Threei} that was easy... stress-free trade
[09:07] {Threei} no takers?
[09:07] {ramvfin2003} +.19
[09:07] {Threei} :)
[09:11] {bruce} nice play vad - didn't take that one
[09:11] {dino} mflo bstop to .30
[09:11] {Threei} you just don't like stress-free trading
[09:12] {bruce} lol
[09:12] {bruce} maybe thats it
[09:13] {Threei} I overheard you grumbling "where does he gets off suggesting trades with no adrenalin influx"
[09:13] {bruce} oh - that was dino
[09:13] {Threei} magoo rather
[09:14] {bruce} maybe ram?
[09:14] * magoo slaps Threei around a bit with a large trout
[09:14] {Threei} oops
[09:14] {Threei} I thought you were sleeping
[09:14] {bruce} actually - trading is pretty stressful for me
[09:14] {magoo} well i can't do anything else but sleep
[09:14] {bruce} pretty tired end of day most days
[09:15] {Threei} it doesn't have to be
[09:16] {cosmo} it can be like a game of cards.... with the guys....
[09:16] {cosmo} coffee of course
[09:17] {bruce} thats the way I look at it cosmo - just do best you can anfd take what comes
[09:19] {dino} probabilities bruce, so expect to be wrong at times, don't let the wrong ones bother you
[09:20] {bruce} understood dino
[09:20] {bruce} my challenge is I've been losing for a long time
[09:20] {dino} try to have fun w/it
[09:20] {bruce} just small amounts
[09:20] {bruce} but consistent
[09:21] {dino} we missed vsat bounce
[09:22] {cosmo} pozn 10 again
[09:23] {dino} mflo stopped +.25 on partial
[09:23] {ramvfin2003} is POZN still on play?
[09:24] {bruce} pozn looks like a long to me - any read vad?
[09:25] {cosmo} i wish it was the last hour instead of lunch time ...
[09:25] {cosmo} for pozn
[09:26] {Threei} 10 break certainly worth a try
[09:27] {ramvfin2003} in .01
[09:28] {cosmo} lunch hour just isn't what it used to be
[09:28] {ramvfin2003} target vad?
[09:29] {dino} thats' cause magoo didn't buy your lunch
[09:29] {dino} cpla, wheres the top
[09:29] {Threei} no idea... breakouts rarely have targets
[09:30] {Threei} place stop and play by usual rules
[09:30] {dino} ravn getting hurt today
[09:33] {Threei} FRPT 18 melting long
[09:34] {Threei} invalidated
[09:38] {bruce} any read grmn vad - bpunce from 100 has been pretty weak so far
[09:39] {Threei} no... not my domain
[09:39] {bruce} k
[09:44] {dino} cpla spike
[09:45] {Threei} 1:1 POZN
[09:45] {Threei} 1P2
[09:45] {Threei} 1:2
[09:45] {Threei} oh news
[09:46] {Threei} ANNOUNCES TREXIMA AMENDED RESPONSE ACCEPTED FOR REVIEW BY FDA-
[09:46] {Threei} cool beans
[09:46] {Threei} nice to be in BEFORE the news hit
[09:46] {Threei} me out
[09:46] {ramvfin2003} out +.23
[09:47] {Threei} see... no stress
[09:47] {dino} brb
[09:47] {dino} gj ram
[09:47] {Threei} bruce?
[09:48] {bruce} thats me
[09:48] {Threei} you played?
[09:48] {bruce} no
[09:49] {Threei} [12:24] {bruce} pozn looks like a long to me - any read vad?
[09:49] {Threei} you asked just out of sheer curiosity?? :)
[09:50] {bruce} nope -considered it
[09:51] {bruce} didn't look like much volume on 10 break to me
[09:51] {bruce} glad it woked for you
[09:51] {Threei} was enough volume to chew through all those offers...
[09:51] {Threei} you really overthink it
[09:51] {Threei} setup is there, risk is defined, it triggers - get it
[09:52] {Roman} been watching WM options
[09:52] {Threei} brain has not much involvement in correct trading... it's eye-finger
[09:52] {Roman} it looks like there is some positive feel for a bounce here
[09:52] {Threei} see setup, recognize setup, play setup
[09:52] {Threei} leave it to market to tell you whcih it is, win or loss
[09:52] {Roman} in full size WM 25.85 area
[09:53] {Roman} swing trade
[10:01] {dino} ande
[10:01] {Threei} bruce... here is my impression
[10:02] {Threei} you have pretty much all the knowledge you need at this point,
[10:02] {Threei} what you really need is not more knowledge
[10:02] {Threei} it's a skill to implement what you know,
[10:02] {Threei} shape it up by triming off unneeded fat
[10:02] {Threei} and leaving only what is necessary
[10:03] {dino} 1/4 cpla s .90
[10:03] {Threei} In other words, you need procedure
[10:03] {bruce} thanx vad
[10:03] {Threei} standard practice that will determine tyour course of action
[10:03] {bruce} I need either more wins percentage wiwse
[10:03] {bruce} or bigger wins
[10:04] {Threei} that's outcome
[10:04] {Threei} to get there you need a procedure that will lead to that outcome
[10:04] {Threei} you put in too much discretion
[10:04] {Threei} trying to ;pick only winning trades
[10:04] {Threei} weed out those that you don't think will work
[10:04] {Threei} this is wrong approach
[10:05] {Threei} you are trying tyo outsmart market
[10:05] {Threei} but market has no smartness to begin with
[10:05] {Threei} it has ebb and flow
[10:05] {Threei} and it's odds, not certainy
[10:06] {Threei} trying to sort it out to have winning trades only youy violate the very principle on which market is based
[10:07] {Chaeron} 13:06 11/01 *DJ Office Depot Raised To Overweight From Neutral By JP
[10:07] {Chaeron} ODP
[10:10] {dino} i guess ande won't fill me at 43.68
[10:11] {ramvfin2003} CROX as ugly as its shoes today
[10:11] {dino} lol
[10:11] {Threei} I don't like pushing my products but sheesh, this is the cheapest one, and this is exactly what you need... so let me reiterate strong buy recommendation on Market Profit Plan
[10:12] {bruce} k vad - I hear you
[10:12] {bruce} off for a break guys
[10:12] {bruce} back in 30
[10:12] {Threei} you don't find it useful - return it
[10:13] {Threei} and I promise you it won't happen
[10:20] {dino} amzn
[10:40] {dino} leap
[10:40] {dino} \merger not happening
[10:43] {Threei} halted?
[10:43] {dino} y
[10:47] {markweb} GXDX news?
[10:47] {dino} cov half cpla .35, +.55
[10:47] {Threei} 10/30/07 10:00am [GXDX] IPO opens for trading at $25
[10:48] {markweb} ty
[10:48] {Threei} 10/29/07 07:38pm [GXDX] Prices 5M share IPO at $17/share and above the $14-$16/share initial pricing range
[10:50] {Threei} quite dull trading for IPO
[10:50] {dino} tough tp ipo on down big day
[10:52] {Roman} CROX is really taking a serious hit
[10:53] {Chaeron} {ramvfin2003} CROX as ugly as its shoes today {{{ best line of the day
[10:53] {Roman} someone bought yesterday at $75 just logging in to see 35% cut
[10:53] {Roman} that hurts
[10:53] {Threei} {CROX} I want second opinion
[10:54] {Threei} {Chaeron} second opinion? ok, you are stupid too
[10:54] {Chaeron} lol... get out of my mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:54] {dino} cov other cpla at .10, +.80
[10:55] {dino} opps only 1/2 of remaining at .10
[10:56] {dino} not sure what happened as bid went below me by .20
[10:56] {dino} guess i should talk to chuck
[10:56] {Roman} good one dino :)
[10:57] {dino} ty rfr
[10:57] {dino} coming up on my 300 down
[10:57] {dino} dow
[10:57] {dino} grmn bit of capit
[10:58] {Roman} look at the volume on SPY & QQQQ
[10:58] {Roman} this is freaky
[10:59] {dino} ok cov all cpla
[10:59] {dino} .10
[10:59] {Chaeron} we're going to zero Roman
[10:59] {Roman} :)
[10:59] {Chaeron} hmmm can we go negative? :)
[11:00] {Threei} on volume?
[11:00] {Threei} kind of, if you buy stock they actually put you short, and when you sell they award you shares... then maybe
[11:00] {dino} end of the world
[11:00] {Threei} contemplate this :)
[11:01] {dino} riddle me that
[11:02] {dino} plxs not paying attn to mkt
[11:02] {Roman} RATE nice reversal off the lows
[11:03] {dino} y
[11:15] {dino} hl l ravn .75, stop lod
[11:38] {dino} ravn stop to .25
[11:38] {Threei} BEAS saga continues
[11:38] {Threei} SUED BY INVESTOR ON BEHALF OF ALL PUBLIC HOLDERS ON DUTY VIOLATION ON ORCL OFFER - WIRE HEADLINE
[11:38] {Threei} - Note: Icahn also sued Co last week over annual meeting
[11:38] {dino} out .17, +.42
[11:39] {dino} rinse job on stop
[12:00] {dino} back in 10
[12:03] {Threei} CLWR
[12:04] {Threei} no news that I see
[12:04] {Threei} what the
[12:06] {bruce} nvda
[12:10] {dino} intl takeover rumor
[12:10] {dino} intel
[12:10] {dino} for nvda
[12:10] {Threei} CLWR nonstop
[12:15] {magoo} goodnoite all, outta here
[12:15] {Threei} take care magoo
[12:16] {bruce} night mags
[12:24] {dino} down 300
[12:28] {Threei} bounce time
[12:29] {dino} edac
[12:31] {dptl} is that volume spike gives you clue on bounce,Vad?
[12:32] {Threei} volume, extension of selling
[12:34] {dptl} ty,just cheking if i am looking at the same things
[12:34] {Threei} if not losing 2215 anymore, should show nice bounce
[12:35] {dptl} yep
[12:36] {bruce} any stocks in mind to play revrsal on vad?
[12:36] {Threei} QID
[12:36] {Threei} short
[12:37] {bruce} here - withstop to 06?
[12:37] {Threei} stop if NQ loses 2215
[12:38] {dino} why not the qld l
[12:39] {dino} QLD
[12:40] {Threei} ?
[12:41] {dino} opposit of qid is qld, so go long qld , just asking
[12:41] {Threei} I don't see correlation on chart
[12:41] {Threei} you sure about that?
[12:42] {dino} 2x long the qqqq
[12:43] {Threei} oh, looked at wrong chart
[12:43] {Threei} yeah, it would work
[12:44] {dino} just esier, imo, up mkt go l qld, down go long qid
[12:46] {Threei} a lot of nervousness
[12:46] {dino} partial fill l midd .75
[12:52] {bruce} down she goes
[12:52] {Threei} yeah
[12:52] {Threei} pathetic bounce
[12:52] {Threei} not even 5 points
[12:59] {Roman} good evening guys
[12:59] {Threei} thank you all
[12:59] {Threei} have a good evening
[12:59] {Threei} see you tomorrow for the nervous end of nervous week
[12:59] {dino} stopped midd .67, -.08
[13:00] {bruce} nigt vad
[13:00] {bruce} nice tight stop dino
[13:00] {dptl} see ya tomorrow all....have a good evening
[13:00] {dino} thx. calling it a day, pretty good one overall
[13:00] {bruce} 7c is great - especially with the reward potentail
[13:00] {dino} magooooo get me a brew
[13:00] {bruce} night all
[13:01] {dino} gn all, back tomorrow, scalp day
Session Close: Fri Nov 02 00:10:57 2007

October 31, 2007

Session Start: Wed Oct 31 00:00:00 2007

Session Time: Wed Oct 31 00:00:00 2007

[05:46] {magoo} morn rt
[05:47] {Threei} Good morning
[05:47] {magoo} vad dcc
[05:51] {dptl} good morning all
[05:53] {hawkfan4} good morning
[05:54] {Threei} dp, hawk :)
[05:57] {bruce} hello folks
[05:58] {bruce} trick or treat today?
[05:58] {Threei} good question
[06:00] {cosmo} it hard to know the difference these days
[06:00] {cosmo} its
[06:02] {markweb} GM ALL
[06:02] {cosmo} PMTC 19.44 ...so far
[06:03] {dino} gm all
[06:04] {markweb} dino:)
[06:05] {dino} gm mark
[06:05] {Threei} mark, cosmo, dino :)
[06:06] {cosmo} TOT :)
[06:06] {bruce} hi mark, dino
[06:06] {markweb} bruce:)
[06:07] {dino} gm bruce, 3i
[06:10] {Threei} going to be very tough read today
[06:10] {Threei} I'd stay with stock-specific trading and scalps
[06:10] {cosmo} i usually take this day off
[06:10] {cosmo} religious purposes
[06:10] {Threei} pagan rituals?
[06:11] {cosmo} yeah
[06:11] {cosmo} just in case...
[06:11] {Threei} good idea
[06:11] {Threei} I sacrifice computer mouse
[06:12] {cosmo} hmm... i have lots of them
[06:12] {cosmo} but their all white
[06:12] {cosmo} there're
[06:12] {Threei} paint them
[06:13] {esemde} GM bruce cos dp hawkjm mags mark pateince ram......vna.....Vad
[06:13] {Threei} ese :)
[06:13] {esemde} thats and VAD
[06:14] {markweb} ese:)
[06:14] {esemde} appologies for not signing off properly yesterday.....
[06:14] {Threei} hmmm... I am being singled out during sacrifice talk... not a good sign
[06:14] {esemde} hope you can all forgive me
[06:14] {dino} forget it
[06:15] {bruce} hi ese
[06:15] {bruce} hey mags -
[06:15] {esemde} after the release of the documentary on my high school program....things have been just a tad more busy
[06:15] {bruce} why dont you do the calls today?
[06:16] {esemde} not bad....i'm still in control
[06:16] {cosmo} ese... you still in HS?
[06:16] {bruce} all we ask is a nice 15 point move like yesterday
[06:16] {esemde} I wish....
[06:16] {esemde} teach....
[06:16] {cosmo} i don't
[06:18] {cosmo} subject?
[06:19] {esemde} music and mathematics
[06:19] {cosmo} marching band?
[06:19] {esemde} Rhythm and Blues Band
[06:19] {esemde} 12 peice fully choreographed R&B band
[06:20] {cosmo} that's what i wanted... they made me do marching band instead....sigh
[06:20] {esemde} 3 of them
[06:21] {esemde} have always had that funny image of Woody Alen playing a cello in a marching band
[06:22] {esemde} sits down to play and as the band marches by he has to get up ...run ahead of the band sit down to play etc etc etc
[06:23] {cosmo} i like Jack Nickelson on the piano in 5 easy peices.... in the back of the truck
[06:23] {esemde} that was another good one...
[06:24] {cosmo} :)
[06:26] {cosmo} he would make a great 'float in the rose parade....ey?
[06:26] {esemde} definately...
[06:29] {dino} fuji
[06:30] {dino} nah
[06:30] {cosmo} watching for PMTC 19.44 test
[06:30] {dino} eqix
[06:31] {cosmo} PMTC needs to hold 19 imho
[06:33] {dino} ok, i admit, i screwed up drys, but itm now, whew
[06:34] {Threei} all is well that ends well...
[06:34] {dino} thats the luck part
[06:34] {Threei} watching GIGM for 25 break
[06:35] {Threei} the shallower pulback the better
[06:35] {dino} stop is now flat drys
[06:36] {Threei} a bit too deep for my taste GIGM
[06:37] {dino} stopped drys flat
[06:37] {dino} grmn
[06:38] {dino} missed eqix ugh
[06:38] {Threei} ACTU again
[06:38] {Threei} 9 meltdfown worth a try
[06:39] {dino} hl l grmn .75
[06:41] {dino} grmn stop to 110.75
[06:41] {dino} out +1.00
[06:42] {markweb} gj
[06:42] {dino} ty, hit and went
[06:42] {bruce} congrats dino
[06:43] {dino} ty lucky entry
[06:45] {dino} oh mann grmn
[06:45] {Threei} *OCT CHICAGO PURCHASING MANAGER INDEX: 49.7 V 53.0E
[06:45] {Threei} - New Orders: 53.9 v 56.2 last
[06:45] {Threei} - Employment: 49.5 v 52.0 last
[06:45] {Threei} - Inventories: 49.6 v 38.2 last
[06:45] {Threei} - Supplier Deliveries: 52.7 v 50.6 last
[06:45] {Threei} - Production: 46.9 v 58.3 last
[06:45] {Threei} - Order Backlogs: 39.9 v 50.5 last
[06:47] {cosmo} actu
[06:48] {esemde} if it gets through 9 cos
[06:48] {dino} eqix sm s .93
[06:49] {bruce} if actu fires stop is about 8.93?
[06:49] {dino} cov .53 +.40
[06:49] {Threei} 8.89
[06:49] {esemde} how bout CGCG
[06:49] {Threei} is it rught symbol?
[06:49] {Threei} right
[06:49] {dino} ok calming down over
[06:50] {esemde} sorry thats CHCG
[06:51] {Threei} I am not getting level 2 on it
[06:51] {Threei} not sure what gives
[06:51] {esemde} 4.57 bid
[06:51] {Threei} that's all I see
[06:51] {cosmo} ACTU 9 wall
[06:52] {esemde} hmmmm
[06:53] {esemde} 4.57 ask as well
[06:54] {esemde} lots of buying on ask
[06:56] {Threei} PAYX .43 long
[06:57] {Threei} .19 stop
[06:57] {Threei} half lot
[07:00] {Threei} *SEPT CONSTRUCTION SPENDING M/M: 0.3% V -0.5%E
[07:00] {Threei} stop to .29 PAYX
[07:03] {ramvfin2003} actu inval?
[07:03] {Threei} for now
[07:03] {Threei} new consolidation may make it valid again later
[07:04] {dino} 1/3 drys for swing 115
[07:05] {dino} ustr
[07:08] {dino} ustr s .09, hl, stop hod
[07:09] {Threei} SPWR dino
[07:11] {Threei} we have bunch of economic numbers, oil reserves AND FOMC on top
[07:11] {Threei} what a day
[07:11] {Threei} WHITE HOUSE LAZEAR: HOUSING WEAKNESS DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE LEAKING INTO OTHER PARTS OF ECONOMY
[07:11] {Threei} not leaking into white house he means?
[07:12] {Threei} PAYX stopped
[07:13] {dino} spwr s, but higher up, 130 magnet imo
[07:15] {dino} or not
[07:15] {Threei} BRCD
[07:15] {Threei} slow and somewhat narrow
[07:15] {Threei} nice daily though
[07:16] {Threei} not sure if there is a play in it... see if you like it
[07:18] {dino} ustr bstop to .86
[07:20] {dino} ouch, stopped major slippage to .03, +.06, that sucked
[07:20] {Threei} nature of the beast...
[07:20] {dino} i shall kill that beast
[07:20] {dino} :)\
[07:21] {Threei} Dino the Dragon Slayer
[07:21] {cosmo} SIRF's up
[07:21] {cosmo} .74 hod
[07:24] {Threei} NTCT
[07:25] {Threei} wierdo... nevermind
[07:27] {Threei} oh cool... bank of Ghana wants to give me 35% of $5,620,000.00
[07:28] {dino} wow, me too
[07:28] {dino} via fax, which was strange
[07:28] {Threei} and that's on top of all my nigerian and ivory coast neverending luck
[07:28] {Threei} just how lucky are we dino
[07:28] {dino} it's the power of the easy button
[07:29] {Threei} Mr. Bright Addo is my hero... yours?
[07:29] {dino} ?
[07:29] {Threei} name of branch manager who begs me to take the money
[07:30] {dino} oh, i didn't remember the name, fast read and toss, ya know
[07:30] {dino} afraid magoo would see it
[07:30] {Threei} you mean you are not going to claim it??
[07:30] {esemde} CSUN
[07:30] {dino} it just wouldn't be right
[07:31] {Threei} oil numbers coming in
[07:31] {Threei} *DOE CRUDE: -3.9M V +300KE; GASOLINE: +1.3M V -250KE; DISTILLATE: +800K V -1.5ME; CAPACITY ULITILIZATION: % V 87.6%E
[07:31] {Threei} - API Gasoline-785K
[07:32] {Threei} - API Distillate: +3.1M
[07:32] {Threei} so, we have less crude, more gfasoline, more distillate than expected
[07:33] {Threei} and what is market supposed to do about those numbers?
[07:33] {Threei} and why is it a concern on weekly basis?
[07:33] {dino} nothing
[07:33] {Threei} what nonsense...
[07:33] {Threei} I can see Raven holding his nose
[07:33] {Threei} beak?
[07:34] {dino} or picking it
[07:34] {esemde} DXCM
[07:36] {Threei} BALTIC EXCHANGE CHIEF CONFIRMS THE DRY FREIGHT INDEX FOR SEABOURN COMMODITIES HAD ITS BIGGEST ONE DAY DROP OF THE YEAR
[07:36] {Threei} and without his confirmation we had doubts eh?
[07:36] {Threei} CSUN ticking... no news that I see
[07:37] {Threei} nothing technical either
[07:37] {dino} risky, sm l grmn .25
[07:37] {Raven} hey !
[07:37] {cosmo} hay?
[07:37] {Raven} OK
[07:38] {dino} out .75, +.50
[07:38] {Raven} still smell smoke cosmo ?
[07:39] {dino} lol raven
[07:39] {cosmo} i never did....btw, you get all that peanut butter off your beak?
[07:39] {dino} ustr feels like soike coming
[07:39] {Raven} liar ... and yes
[07:39] {Raven} there was smoke in Paradise
[07:40] {dino} spike, i mean
[07:40] {cosmo} i did smell some reintrained particulate three days after
[07:40] {Threei} SOHU
[07:40] {Threei} scary one
[07:40] {Raven} reintrained ?
[07:40] {cosmo} but thats not smoke
[07:40] {dino} brb
[07:40] {cosmo} checking...
[07:40] {Threei} .90 is long trigger
[07:40] {Threei} small shares, very volatile
[07:41] {bruce} stop .35 vad?
[07:41] {Threei} depends on low of this pullback
[07:41] {Threei} if sets up from here,
[07:41] {cosmo} reintrained =} dust that would fall within the PM-10 classification ...
[07:42] {Threei} stop under .50, target is somewhere closer to 60
[07:42] {Raven} oh for god's ske ...
[07:42] {Raven} sake
[07:42] {cosmo} well... if you insist
[07:43] {Raven} SIGH ... but, enough of this prattle ... I must take a hike now ... later
[07:43] {Threei} come on SOHU, take 59
[07:44] {Threei} that should be launching pad
[07:44] {Threei} NQ 2230 break should set the rally in motion
[07:44] {bruce} in sohu .85
[07:46] * Threei kicks SOHU in the rear with heavy duty army boots, steel toe and all
[07:47] {Threei} ARCA is annoying at .88
[07:53] {Threei} do I see MSFT making 52 week highs or am I hallucinating
[07:54] {magoo} vad, dcc
[07:57] {bruce} stop qround here sohu vad?
[07:58] {Threei} under .50
[07:58] {bruce} k
[08:05] {Threei} ESLR picks up strength again
[08:07] {esemde} am not on the ball today....staring at things but not making it happen.....CVLT ISIS....what am i thinkin
[08:10] {dino} morn l hl .95
[08:14] {dino} take a break ese, go for 30 min. walk
[08:14] {dino} mblx
[08:15] {Threei} out SOHU
[08:16] {bruce} stopped sohu
[08:16] {esemde} nj Vad
[08:16] {Threei} disgusting day... as it well should be
[08:24] {bruce} sory vad - jinxed you on sohu
[08:24] {Threei} difficult call... but still
[08:24] {Threei} ESLR .51 long
[08:24] {bruce} any read eslr?
[08:25] {Threei} .39 stop
[08:30] {dino} morn stopped -.45
[08:31] {dino} rinsed
[08:32] {Threei} ATHR
[08:32] {Threei} if it can break 35 it can go to 36
[08:35] {esemde} Iong ESLR .50
[08:36] {bruce} l eslr .51
[08:36] {esemde} what time does the royal rpnouncement come out
[08:37] {Threei} 2:15 EST
[08:37] {esemde} tks
[08:38] {Threei} if ATHR sets up from here stop is under .70
[08:40] {esemde} ESLR 'E'xtra, 'S'tock 'L'aunch 'R'ocket ...hopefully....
[08:41] {esemde} Boredom.....let me look that up in the dictionary....hmmmm
[08:44] {esemde} could fly if it gets by yesterdays high of .60
[08:44] {Threei} ah come on ATHR... you gnawed through all those enrmous offers just to sit there??
[08:44] {esemde} make that the day before
[08:45] {esemde} athr should fly to Vad
[08:45] {dino} risky, l grmn .10
[08:46] {esemde} over here...over there....comin in on a wing and a prayere.....the yanks are comin ...the yanks are comin ...there coe come comin everywhere....alll together now!!!! over here........
[08:47] {esemde} old WW2 song......thought it would be uplifting
[08:47] {Threei} hmmm
[08:47] {Threei} I can feel some uplifting
[08:48] {Threei} but ATHR at 36 would make this feeling strongere
[08:48] {esemde} indeed....same with ESLR
[08:49] {dino} stopped grmn .98-.12\
[08:50] {esemde} quelle drag....
[08:58] {dino} what a rinse on grmn, drops 1.50 then back in a flash
[09:02] {Threei} ATHR found inner strength in its heart
[09:04] {Threei} over 1:1
[09:04] {ramvfin2003} anyone alive?
[09:04] {Threei} ?
[09:04] {ramvfin2003} sorry was booted
[09:04] {Threei} new high ESLR
[09:05] {Threei} new high NQ
[09:05] {Threei} new high ATHR
[09:05] {esemde} i'm likin it...
[09:05] {Threei} ESLR at daily resistance
[09:05] {Threei} broke
[09:07] {dino} rinsed on last two, taking lunch break
[09:08] {esemde} take care dino
[09:13] {dino} ty ese, no worries very good day so far
[09:15] {Threei} half out ESLR
[09:15] {Threei} ditto ATHR
[09:15] {esemde} nice job Vad
[09:16] {esemde} i shall follow suit
[09:16] {Threei} both look good for more... but today is very unusual day, after two very unusual weeks
[09:16] {Threei} so I give them a chance but secure half
[09:17] {esemde} tks by the way
[09:17] {Threei} welcome
[09:24] {esemde} have a great rest of the day everyone....duty calls
[09:25] {Threei} take care ese
[09:25] {dino} take care ese
[09:31] {bruce} out eslr in full
[09:32] {Threei} traitor
[09:32] {Threei} kidding :)
[09:32] {bruce} dont want to get hit again vad
[09:33] {Threei} nothing's worng with booking profit on such day
[09:33] {Threei} or any other day for that matter
[09:33] {bruce} sohu was nasty - I got 12c slippage on stop
[09:34] {Threei} that's why it was small shares play
[09:35] {bruce} ptv any read?
[09:35] {dino} hate when that happens bruce, slippage bad lately
[09:36] {bruce} yes - saw you take soem nasty ones dino
[09:36] {Threei} no bruce
[09:36] {Threei} 30 cents range
[09:36] {dino} turning wins into flats
[09:36] {Threei} too narrow to count on anything worthy
[09:37] {bruce} k
[09:39] {dino} grmn capit
[09:44] {dino} grmn sm l .25
[09:46] {bruce} stop 109.75 or so dino?
[09:49] {dino} out .75, +.50
[09:49] {dino} y bruce sorry, someone here
[09:50] {bruce} k - gj - didn't take it but thought a .5 stop was probably about right
[09:50] {dino} yeah, 400 shares, give it room
[09:51] {bruce} thought so
[09:51] {bruce} thanx
[09:52] {dino} np
[09:57] {dino} again?
[10:04] {bruce} not sure - looks like it wants to continue soth dino
[10:06] {dino} good call
[10:07] {bruce} thanx
[10:07] {dino} 109.50ish
[10:10] {bruce} k
[10:12] {dino} ssrx crash
[10:16] {Threei} scanner slowed down to a crawl
[10:18] {bruce} drys - finally put in a bit of a recovery
[10:18] {bruce} grmn almost to 109.50
[10:19] {dino} fgeels lower
[10:19] {bruce} don't think it will hold dino
[10:19] {bruce} agreed
[10:21] {dino} 108.50's
[10:23] {bruce} still holding secon half eslr vad?
[10:24] {Threei} no, hit trailing stop at .49
[10:24] {bruce} k
[10:25] {Threei} routine principle - half out, stop to under b/e
[10:25] {bruce} k
[10:26] {bruce} I set a more agressive stop on second half today
[10:26] {Threei} nothing worng with that
[10:26] {bruce} wanted to hang on to be on second half
[10:28] {bruce} you generally stop trading before fed announcement vad?
[10:28] {bruce} its not far off onw
[10:28] {Threei} of course I do
[10:29] {Threei} you saw the volstility of fist minutes after announcement?
[10:29] {Threei} who needs to get caught on a wrong side of it
[10:30] {bruce} true
[10:30] {Threei} and gambling on what side is right is as far from my approach as star Bethelgeizer (or however you spell it) is from pacific Ocean bottom
[10:33] {Chaeron} Betelgeuse and the Marianas Trench?
[10:34] {Threei} thank you
[10:34] {Chaeron} ... that's far...
[10:34] {Threei} my spelling knowledge increases by minute
[10:34] {Chaeron} and I'll think of you tonight when I see Orion
[10:34] {Threei} couple years more, and Raven will be proud of me
[10:35] {Chaeron} I wish my Russian was 1/10 as good as your English
[10:35] {Threei} wait
[10:35] {Threei} you mean... all this time I spoke English?
[10:36] {Chaeron} what you thought Canadian?
[10:36] {Threei} its british columbian dialect to be exact
[10:36] {Threei} or is it eqzakt?
[10:36] {Chaeron} eh?
[10:37] {bruce} lol
[10:37] {bruce} my geography knowledge increases by minutes
[10:37] {Threei} side benefit of RT room bruce
[10:38] {Threei} and if you get on a good side of Raven... there is no telling to what you may learn
[10:38] {bruce} truly amazing
[10:39] {Threei} of course there is a problem with raven's good side...
[10:39] {Threei} he gueards this secret so thoroughly, he can't remember himself which one it is
[10:40] {bruce} ravens quiet today
[10:41] {bruce} probably looking for trout
[10:42] {dino} grmn l sm .02
[10:42] {dino} stop .68
[10:50] {Threei} 25 minutes till popcorn time
[10:51] {Raven} do what ?
[10:52] {Threei} {--- hiding
[10:52] {Raven} hmmm ...
[10:52] {Threei} {--- hiding under the nearest rock
[10:52] {Threei} {--- hiding deeper
[10:52] {dino} stopped grmn -.34
[10:52] * Raven hammers the rock
[10:53] {Threei} {--- digging hectically
[10:53] * Raven pours boiling oil over rock
[10:54] {Threei} {----- trying to chosew betwen rolling over and giving up or fighting back
[10:54] {magoo} u guys miss me?
[10:54] {Threei} very mcuh
[10:54] * Raven goes back to reading Investors Business Daily ... god knows why
[10:54] {Threei} lol
[10:54] {Raven} filler
[10:55] {Threei} you missed vicious albeit brief fight magoo
[10:56] {Threei} market starts wierd moves
[10:56] {Threei} gamblers adjust their positions
[10:56] {bruce} we've been talking behind your back all morning mags
[10:58] {magoo} lol
[10:58] {bruce} nothing really bad
[10:58] {bruce} just the usual trash
[10:58] {bruce} about your character
[10:59] {Threei} and appearance
[10:59] {Threei} some may have mentioned spelling
[10:59] {Threei} but those are particularly mean
[11:00] {bruce} lol -no names please vad
[11:00] {bruce} raven doesn't need the headaches
[11:00] {dino} and magoo's weight
[11:01] {bruce} lol - thqat diet of magoos not working?
[11:02] {bruce} grm n finally formed higher low dino
[11:03] {dino} :)
[11:03] {dino} i shouldn't pick on him, he dud buy lunch
[11:03] {dino} yes bruce, thinking 110 again, but not too sure
[11:09] {bruce} thinking l herre in grmn dino
[11:09] {dino} waiting for fed
[11:09] {dino} where
[11:09] {Threei} sooo... give us our .25 cut and let's get it over with
[11:10] {dino} nice bruce, gj
[11:10] {Threei} better yet... say no cut needed, market stalls in shock for a second, then expodes happily
[11:10] {bruce} ddidn't get .35 offer
[11:10] {bruce} bid rather
[11:11] {dino} ok
[11:12] {bruce} had .35 bid with stop set to .85
[11:13] {dino} good imo
[11:13] {dino} wait now
[11:14] {bruce} in .25
[11:15] {dino} gl
[11:15] {dino} decision coming, will whip
[11:15] {dino} .25
[11:15] {Threei} *FOMC CUTS FED FUNDS RATE 25BPS TO 4.50%, AS EXPECTED
[11:16] {Chaeron} sigh
[11:16] {Chaeron} 14:15 10/31 *DJ FOMC Voted 9-1 For Fed Funds Rate Cut; Hoenig Dissented
[11:16] {bruce} out .65
[11:16] {bruce} geesh
[11:16] {bruce} scre3en froz
[11:17] {Threei} up now
[11:17] {dino} gj bruce, but ballsy w/fed 1 min. away
[11:18] {bruce} no - just stupid
[11:19] {bruce} I feel the trout coming
[11:19] {dino} lol
[11:19] {dino} picked up some "luck"
[11:20] {bruce} could use some more of that dino
[11:20] {Threei} down now
[11:21] {dino} make your luck
[11:21] {bruce} yah - I do
[11:21] {Threei} right on cue
[11:22] {bruce} dow dumped more than 100 poi9nts
[11:23] {bruce} isn't there oftn an immeidaite overreaction -
[11:23] {dino} its happening
[11:23] {bruce} with a boucne3 later in other direction vad?
[11:23] {dino} usually 3
[11:23] {bruce} k
[11:23] {bruce} ping pong
[11:25] {Threei} yes bruce
[11:30] {dino} and up we go for a bit
[11:31] {bruce} now lads - where is the money?
[11:31] {Threei} NQ 1 min chart is out of mental institution client paintings
[11:32] {bruce} oh - thought it looked like one of my drawings
[11:32] {dino} not yet bruce, i want one more swing
[11:36] {dino} going down again
[11:37] {Threei} this last bounce was stronger than I would expect
[11:37] {dino} higher mkt low
[11:40] {Threei} (CA) PRIME MINISTER: MANUFACTURING SECTOR IS IN CRISIS, BUT GOVERNMENT ADDRESSING THE ISSUE
[11:41] {dino} hmm
[11:41] {Threei} feels to me up from here
[11:42] {bruce} hmm
[11:42] {bruce} free car to all canadaians to boost ato manufacturing?
[11:43] {dino} you need to weaken your dollar
[11:43] {Threei} you have no idea dino
[11:44] {dino} airm
[11:44] {dino} my thoughts, weaker dollar, more exports
[11:45] {dino} more exports=more jobs
[11:45] {Threei} today's level of CAD is a slow death for country
[11:45] {Threei} up it is
[11:45] {dino} yes, this strong dollar stuff is not correct. most do not get it
[11:45] {dino} same with balanced bugets
[11:45] {Threei} volatilit is still high but it looks like market has decided on furthwer direction
[11:46] {bruce} vads just saying that cause hes not retir3d yet
[11:47] {Threei} yeah
[11:47] {Threei} a few years ago for each $USD 1000 I made I recieved CAD 1600
[11:48] {Threei} today I get CAD 950
[11:48] {Threei} how about that
[11:48] {dino} what you need to do is buy us real estate soon vad, its' cheaper for you
[11:49] {Threei} great... additionally to market specualtion I will have RE speculation :)
[11:49] {Threei} in capitulating market, no less
[11:49] {dino} aaaahhhhhhhhh, look who you are talking to
[11:49] {Threei} hehe
[11:49] {bruce} thats a terible problem to have vad
[11:49] {dino} again, buy the blood
[11:50] {bruce} eslr did OK today after all
[11:51] {Threei} OK is understatement of the day
[11:51] {Threei} huge jump
[11:51] {dino} grmn l .00
[11:51] {dino} hl
[11:52] {Threei} NQ goes to 2250
[11:52] {Threei} maybe even today
[11:53] {dino} drys treating me better today
[11:54] {dino} out .26
[11:54] {dino} +.26
[11:54] {dino} too soon
[11:55] {Threei} almost certainly today
[11:56] {dino} wow, stupid sale
[11:57] {Threei} half point left
[11:57] {Threei} ding ding 2250
[11:58] {dino} i wasn't paying attn to my old friend dwsn
[11:58] {dino} darn
[12:01] {dino} grmn down again under 110
[12:01] {dino} back in 10
[12:02] {bruce} just as well you got out dino
[12:02] {markweb} ESLR short?
[12:08] {Threei} can't tell mark
[12:08] {Threei} there is no rhyme to the movement
[12:09] {markweb} ty
[12:13] {dino} bottom grmn?
[12:14] {Threei} I would feel much safer closer to 108.50
[12:15] {dino} waiting at 108.51
[12:17] {dino} dropped it .30
[12:23] {dino} not even close
[12:30] {Threei} here it comes
[12:34] {Threei} in dino?
[12:35] {Threei} me scalped for .31
[12:36] {dino} gj, distracted a bit
[12:36] {bruce} congrats vad
[12:37] {dino} my kids get off the bus at 3 and come to my office for last hour, so, as you can imagine...
[12:38] {bruce} lol - you let them push buttons ofr you dino?
[12:39] {dino} noooooo
[12:40] {Threei} ah come on
[12:40] {Threei} I let my cat do it
[12:40] {Threei} you sure can allow your kids some fun
[12:40] {dino} my son runs his 5th grade investment class, always asking me q's
[12:40] {bruce} is taht your secret vad?
[12:40] {bruce} cat makes your trading calls?
[12:41] {dino} told him to buy gs, drys, and nyx all in sept., but does he listen?
[12:41] {Threei} no... he just trades
[12:41] {Threei} she
[12:42] {Threei} seriously though, I had to disable keyboard shortcuts
[12:43] {Raven} what about the hairless mouse ?
[12:43] {bruce} can understqand why
[12:43] {Threei} lol R
[12:47] {dino} calling it a very good day. thx all appreciated the ideas
[12:47] {bruce} welcome dino
[12:48] {bruce} have a good one
[12:48] {Threei} take care dino
[12:48] {dino} ty, u2
[12:49] {bruce} signing off as well
[12:49] {bruce} bye alland see you in am
[12:49] {Threei} Ok guys, thank you all
[12:49] {Threei} I think we handled today very well
[12:50] {Threei} extremely confusing day, so restraint was prescribed
[12:50] {Threei} have a good evening, see you tomorrow